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Wed Jan 23, 2013, 09:53 AM

 

ACLU files lawsuit over woman's terrifying incident at Detroit Metro Airport

Source: Detroit Free Press

A 36-year-old Ohio woman who is half-Jewish and half-Arab is suing the FBI and other federal agencies, saying she was yanked off an airplane at Detroit Metro Airport on the 10th anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, strip-searched, and jailed for more than four hours in a dirty cell because of her ethnic background.

The American Civil Liberties Union filed a lawsuit Tuesday in U.S. District Court in Detroit on behalf of Shoshana Hebshi of Sylvania, who was on a Frontier Airlines flight that landed at the airport on Sept. 11, 2011. She and two Indian-American men sitting in her row were targeted by federal agents who entered the plane, handcuffed them, and pushed them down the stairs into vehicles, Hebshi said.

She was then placed in a cell, where she was ordered to strip naked, squat, and cough while an officer looked at her.


Read more: http://www.freep.com/article/20130123/NEWS05/301230093/ACLU-files-lawsuit-over-woman-s-terrifying-incident-at-Detroit-Metro-Airport?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Ctext%7CFRONTPAGE

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Reply ACLU files lawsuit over woman's terrifying incident at Detroit Metro Airport (Original post)
michigandem58 Jan 2013 OP
trumad Jan 2013 #1
intheflow Jan 2013 #3
tblue Jan 2013 #20
randome Jan 2013 #4
blackspade Jan 2013 #2
SaveAmerica Jan 2013 #5
thefool_wa Jan 2013 #6
RevStPatrick Jan 2013 #7
randome Jan 2013 #8
ronnie624 Jan 2013 #10
frylock Jan 2013 #16
mountain grammy Jan 2013 #9
struggle4progress Jan 2013 #11
struggle4progress Jan 2013 #12
struggle4progress Jan 2013 #13
struggle4progress Jan 2013 #14
randome Jan 2013 #15
Gormy Cuss Jan 2013 #21
msanthrope Jan 2013 #23
Gormy Cuss Jan 2013 #24
msanthrope Jan 2013 #25
NinetySix Jan 2013 #17
kooljerk666 Jan 2013 #22
corkhead Jan 2013 #18
Dawson Leery Jan 2013 #19
Kelvin Mace Jan 2013 #26

Response to michigandem58 (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 10:00 AM

1. did they have a bomb?

A gun... A knife.... No...they had brown skin.

Oh but no problem...you can walk around a JC Penny's with an assault rifle.

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Response to trumad (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 10:11 AM

3. I doubt they could walk around Penney's with an assault rifle

without risking another incident such as this. Or worse - they'd probably just be taken out by authorities. The ONLY reason that dude was able to walk around Penney's with that freakin' rifle is because he's white.

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Response to intheflow (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 12:49 PM

20. Oh my gosh. So true. nt

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Response to trumad (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 10:17 AM

4. I doubt it's that simple. Otherwise, there would be a hell of a lot more of an uproar.

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Response to michigandem58 (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 10:01 AM

2. WTF?

This kind of shit is ridiculous.

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Response to michigandem58 (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 10:36 AM

5. Remind me what country we're in again?

And do I need to talk to my children, who are brown skinned, what to do if they are unjustly detained? There is no way that I would have them do even one of those things she was required to do.

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Response to thefool_wa (Reply #6)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 10:48 AM

7. You're absolutely right!

 

She should have pulled out her gun and shot the agents before they were able to take her off the plane!
Problem solved...

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Response to thefool_wa (Reply #6)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 10:50 AM

8. Uh...no. I think the lawsuit will do the job nicely, thank you.

Law enforcement received complaints about the trio. Those complaints don't appear to have had any merit but to equate law enforcement responding to complaints as 'tyranny' is quite hyperbolic, IMO.

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Response to thefool_wa (Reply #6)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 11:02 AM

10. "defend ourselves"

With a gun, on an airliner, against federal agents?

Count me out.

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Response to thefool_wa (Reply #6)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 12:13 PM

16. derp?

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Response to michigandem58 (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 10:53 AM

9. Chilling, and a reminder to all of us

to donate and renew their ACLU membership. I just did.

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Response to michigandem58 (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 11:19 AM

11. Shoshana Hebshi, Airline Passenger, Says She Was Strip-Searched Over Her 'Appearance' (13 Sept 12)

... Shoshana Hebshi, 35, told The Associated Press she was one of three people removed from a Denver-to-Detroit Frontier Airlines flight after landing Sunday afternoon. Authorities say fighter jets escorted the plane after its crew reported that two people were spending a long time in a bathroom Ė the two men sitting next to Hebshi in the 12th row.

Hebshi said she didn't notice how many times the men went to the bathroom. "I wasn't keeping track," she said.

"I really wasn't paying attention," said Hebshi, a freelance writer, editor and stay-at-home mother of twin six-year-old boys who lives in a suburb of Toledo, Ohio. "I was minding my own business Ė sleeping, reading, playing on my phone."

The FBI has said the three didn't know each other. One man felt ill and got up to use the restroom and another man in the same row also left his seat to go to the bathroom. The FBI said they never were inside together ...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/13/shoshana-hebshi-passenger_n_961369.html

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Response to michigandem58 (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 11:22 AM

12. Ohio woman Shoshana Hebshi tells of detention after removal from plane (14 Sept 12)

Housewife, 35, questioned by FBI after fellow passenger thought she looked suspicious on 9/11 anniversary flight
Andrew Gumbel in Los Angeles
Wednesday 14 September 2011 14.50 EDT

... Hebshi, who lives in a suburb of Toledo, Ohio, was travelling from Denver to Detroit, thinking the September 11 anniversary would be a less busy day to fly. When an unidentified fellow passenger expressed alarm at the time her neighbours in row 12 were spending in the toilet, the pilot alerted the control tower, which alerted the entire national security establishment ...

At first, Hebshi was not told why she was being held, despite her repeated questions. The FBI arrived, ordered a full body search and quizzed her on every aspect of her relatively mundane life: her travels to Venezuela in 2001, her journalism training, her marriage, and her six-year-old twins. When it became clear she was blameless, she was released.

"It's 9/11 and people are seeing ghosts," one FBI agent told her. "They are seeing things that aren't there." He said they had to respond to the report of suspicious behaviour, "and this is what the reaction looks like" ...

Hebshi was told by the FBI that hers was one of dozens of similar episodes that occurred the same day. She was also told about an incident last December when agents spent six hours interviewing every passenger on a plane before letting them go ...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/14/shoshana-hebshi-9-11-flight-detroit

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Response to michigandem58 (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 11:26 AM

13. The curious case of Shoshana Hebshi (17 Sep 12)

Sep 17th 2011, 21:40 by N.B. | WASHINGTON, D.C.

... the captain came on the loudspeaker and told Ms Hebshi and her fellow passengers that their plane was being moved to a different part of the airport. Soon police cars and "what looked like the bomb squad" were surrounding the plane. "I started to get nervous and rethink my decision to fly on 9/11," Ms Hebshi wrote later. She decided to tweet about her experience: "If the plane was going to blow up, at least there'd be some record on my part." After 30 minutes, heavily armed police stormed aboard and detained Ms Hebshi and the men sitting to her left and right. They told her she couldn't bring her phone. ("What a cliffhanger for my Twitter followers!" she wrote.) ...

I always wonder about what the people responsible for these sorts of false alarms think afterwards. The Associated Press says Ms Hebshi's detention was prompted by the airplane crew reporting that Ms Hebshi's row-mates were spending "an extraordinarily long time" in the bathroom. So in case you're wondering what post-9/11 security paranoia has done to us, it's this: apparently some of us keep track of how much time strangers spend in the bathroom ...

http://www.economist.com/blogs/gulliver/2011/09/suspicious-passengers

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Response to michigandem58 (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 11:29 AM

14. Some Real Shock and Awe: Racially Profiled and Cuffed in Detroit



By Shoshana Hebshi, ACLU Plaintiff at 11:03am

Itís been more than a year since I was pulled off that Frontier flight at the Detroit airport for reasons I can only ascribe to discrimination and racial profiling. It was the end of a long trip home for me, but the beginning of a life-altering experience that has ultimately led me to shine a light on this great injustice. We often think of racial profiling as a problem that impacts other people. I am proof that racial profiling hurts us all.

I can only gather that I was targeted and forced at gunpoint off that plane, handcuffed, loaded into a police car and taken into custody for hours because of my ethnic name and the chance circumstance that I was sitting next to two men of South Asian descent. As officers boarded the plane we were ordered to put our heads down and our arms in front of us. I wondered if there was a fugitive on board. I had no idea they were coming for me. When they stopped at my row and ordered me to stand up, I was completely shocked and panicked. I was ordered off the flight at gunpoint, handcuffed and shuttled in the back of a police car to a small cell where an officer strip searched me. I was scared and alone in that dirty cell. I canít begin to describe the humiliation I felt.

No one would tell me what was going on despite my repeated requests for information. No one told me of my rights or when I would be able to call my family who had no idea where I was. You can imagine this was very difficult for them as the last time they heard from me was when I hung up the phone with my husband in Ohio saying that stairs were coming and I thought Iíd be home soon. I was in the dark about why I was being held until I was interrogated by an FBI agent. Though it still didnít make sense, I deduced that it was because of my proximity to the men who apparently got up to go to the bathroom a few times during the flight ...

http://www.aclu.org/blog/racial-justice/some-real-shock-and-awe-racially-profiled-and-cuffed-detroit

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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #14)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 11:35 AM

15. She wasn't 'targeted' except by her fellow paranoid passengers.

The FBI reacted to a complaint. They probably should have dismissed the complaint but to say the authorities 'targeted' her appears to be wrong.

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Response to randome (Reply #15)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 02:02 PM

21. According to the ACLU, she WAS targeted.

Through public records, the ACLU discovered that Hebshi was removed from the flight because she was seated next to the men and because of her ethnic name.

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Response to Gormy Cuss (Reply #21)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 04:21 PM

23. Indeed, she was, but not by the government, apparently. After reading the ACLU complaint, it's

pretty clear that she was targeted by the employees of Frontier Airlines, who then reported her to the FBI.

I will not excuse the FBI. Let me be clear---If what the Plaintiff describes in her complaint is true, then I question the professionalism and actions of the FBI, and think that she should recover from them. By recover, I mean that the FBI owe her an apology and a check.

So do Frontier Airlines.

It seems she had the misfortune of sitting next to two men who used the facilities for 10-20 minutes. Because Ms. Hebshi, and the men, were 'ethnic' looking to Frontier employees, they assumed they were traveling companions up to no good.

Detroit had been the destination of the failed 'underwear bomber,' and with the 9/11 anniversary, I am sure everyone was on 'high alert.' That explains what happened, but does NOT excuse it. I hope she recovers damages from all involved.

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Response to msanthrope (Reply #23)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 04:49 PM

24. I hope that she prevails too.

If her version of events is true, the naked bigotry of this incident is appalling. If the LE all followed procedures, the person(s) responsible for setting those procedures should be fired.

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Response to Gormy Cuss (Reply #24)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 05:00 PM

25. I think that procedures were followed, but discretion was not. In other words, the procedure to

deal with a terrorist is a 'good' one, and the one that was used....but determining WHO is a terrorist needs some work.

Clearly, there was a breakdown of judgment and discretion. That deserves exploration and training.

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Response to michigandem58 (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 12:14 PM

17. It's well known that people from Toledo are of questionable patriotism...

 

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Response to NinetySix (Reply #17)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 03:44 PM

22. 1st LOL 2day Klinger & his Mudhens......./nt

 

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Response to michigandem58 (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 12:37 PM

18. Doesn't the ACLU understand that the TSA does that to protect her freedums?

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Response to michigandem58 (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 12:44 PM

19. The rats were protecting your freedom!

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Response to michigandem58 (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 05:39 PM

26. Over and over again

I explain that we now live a police state.

yet, people still want to argue this point and claim I am an alarmist.

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