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Thu Jan 10, 2013, 02:10 PM

Jerry Brown: California's deficit is gone

Source: San Francisco Chronicle

For the first time in five years, California is not facing a deficit as Gov. Jerry Brown and lawmakers work to put together a spending plan for the next fiscal year.

Brown released his budget Thursday morning for the 2013-2014 fiscal year, proposing a $97.7 billion plan that is 5 percent higher than the current year's spending.

"California today is poised to achieve something that has eluded us for more than a decade - a budget that lives within its means, now and for many years to come," the governor wrote in his budget message to the Legislature, saying voters made this possible by approving Proposition 30.

The plan increases funds for K-12 schools, and districts "serving those students who have the greatest challenges will receive more generous increases - so that all students in California have the opportunity to succeed," the governor wrote.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Jerry-Brown-California-s-deficit-is-gone-4183371.php

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 02:14 PM

1. Love Jerry Brown! Wish he could be cloned 49 times.

I remember making a contribution to his Presidential campaign way back when he ran against Clinton in the primary. His no nonsense approach to governing is refreshing.

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 02:16 PM

2. ...and all it took was the political will to raise taxes.



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Response to Richardo (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:03 PM

15. And throwing out enough Republicans to take control of the legislature will help in the future. n/t

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Response to Tempest (Reply #15)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:15 PM

18. +1000

Need to do this on national level...dems need the house!

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Response to abelenkpe (Reply #18)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:22 PM

21. I did my part in CA, and in 2014 and on I'll be doing my part in New Hampshire.

As well as the California has treated me, it's time for another adventure and it's taking me to the east coast.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #21)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:35 PM

31. Wow...good luck, stay safe, and bon voyage!

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Response to keopeli (Reply #31)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:00 PM

39. Thank you. Worried more about the effect on my cat.

Here in Bakersfield he's able to stay outside all winter (in the back yard, he never leaves it). I don't think he'll want to do that in the cold and snow.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #39)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 08:40 PM

102. A cat door will do the trick! n/t

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Response to Tempest (Reply #15)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 03:42 AM

176. That is always the answer!

It's damned hard to do. I'm so proud of my governor and my state!!!

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Response to Richardo (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:31 PM

60. Cuts were three times as steep as the tax increase

And many social welfare programs like CalWorks were hit very hard. Just sayin...

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Response to Morganfleeman (Reply #60)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:47 AM

123. For our state to be successful..........

We need efficient government and a private sector that thrives on real production and value added. I don't know for sure but some stories i have heard from people in that CalWorks program say it's kind of a sham and or a make work program.

At any rate with a balanced book it means no right-wing cabals can come to our state to try pull some more fast ones on us. Our state is getting to point where we have outfoxed them and they have nothing to do but retreat

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Response to Richardo (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 08:31 PM

101. +1

 

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Response to Richardo (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 09:16 PM

108. It also took the courage to put his political life on the line...

I wish he would run for President in 2016.

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 02:19 PM

3. Go Jerry! He took it to the people and he came out a winner like I know he always does!

 

simply the best!

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 02:19 PM

4. We in CA are the ones who should secede then

we wouldn't have to be tied to any of the conservative bull shit states.

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:03 PM

16. Agree 100%. Many con states would go bankrupt if not for the money we send. n/t

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Response to Tempest (Reply #16)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:30 PM

26. If the federal government collapses under the weight of austerity imposed by the right wing

. . . then, I, for one, would favor making California an independent nation.

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Response to Jack Rabbit (Reply #26)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:31 PM

28. We'd be the 7th largest economy in the world.

And the envy of the whatever remained of the U.S.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #28)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:13 PM

144. Actually it's 9th now. We'd basically be a mini Germany, half the pop and size.

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Response to Sirveri (Reply #144)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:15 PM

145. Soon to rise now that the state's fiscal ship has been righted. n/t

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Response to Jack Rabbit (Reply #26)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:46 PM

36. See ya

 

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Response to brew987 (Reply #36)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:17 PM

44. You Have NO IDEA Just How Funny That Is!

 

I think you will understand soon though!

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Response to HangOnKids (Reply #44)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:22 PM

49. What do you expect from low information, low effort conservative thinkers?

The information has been available and discussed for several years now.

But then, cons live in their own alternative reality.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #49)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:24 PM

53. I Am Really Hungry For Pizza!

 

I guess it is a good thing I waited on lunch.

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Response to HangOnKids (Reply #44)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 06:53 PM

94. It drips with irony.

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Response to HangOnKids (Reply #44)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 08:50 PM

103. Alas, he's been banned. I wonder what Eden he hailed from

I wouldn't trade California for any other place on the planet, and I've lived in several states. You've lived all over the world, so you probably know what I'm talking about better than I do.

By the way, A+++ for the John Coltrane avatar.

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Response to brew987 (Reply #36)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 07:13 PM

96. There are 4 or 5 who joined with our PizzaMan but they are still roaming free

 

There have been some very weird jury results today! But this see ya just cracked me the fuck up!

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Response to Jack Rabbit (Reply #26)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:55 AM

119. It would be interesting to watch

That'd put the pacific NW in an interesting position, for sure. Maybe we could join up with Canada.

California wouldn't be complete smooth sailing though. Water would suddenly become a serious issue.

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Response to Jack Rabbit (Reply #26)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:16 AM

126. I would only agree if Oregon and Washington state get to join them

Except for the backwoods areas, we are the two states most copacetic with California.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #16)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:13 PM

42. Which states would go bankrupt and why?

I am guessing you don't know what federal funds are and for what reason they they are going where they go. If you do want to secede you can send your petition to the WH along with the nuts from TX.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #42)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:21 PM

47. Red states are welfare states, and CA is a giving state to support those states.

Center for Tax Policy has all the state breakdowns.

Red states receive more from the federal government than they contribute.

Learn something before calling people nuts.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #47)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:24 PM

52. I asked for specifics and you providing nothing.

What federal funds are being provided? What would you like to see reduced? What exactly do you mean by the slur "welfare"?

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Response to former9thward (Reply #52)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:25 PM

56. I gave you a source. Do your own research. n/t

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Response to Tempest (Reply #56)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:30 PM

59. Standard answer from someone who is caught with having nothing.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #59)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:36 PM

62. Providing a source is having nothing?

The fact is, you know it exists and don't want to face the truth.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #62)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:58 PM

73. Feeling bad because you were caught?

I went to your 'source'. http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/index.cfm Nothing in there about welfare or anything else you stated in your post. In my state (AZ -- a welfare state to use your words) federal funds coming into the state go to service the national parks, the national forests, the Native American reservations, military bases, people on Social Security or other federal pensions. What exactly of these items is welfare???

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Response to former9thward (Reply #73)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:03 PM

75. If feel bad because you have poor research skills.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #75)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:33 PM

87. What is welfare?

Social security? Native American aid? National parks? Maybe you should be on a site you are more comfortable with.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #75)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 09:37 AM

179. okay the first link there lists the top ten "welfare states"

1. New Mexico: $2.63
2. West Virginia: $2.57
3. Mississippi: $2.47
4. District of Colombia: $2.41
5. Hawaii: $2.38
6. Alabama: $2.03
7. Alaska: $1.93
8. Montana: $1.92
9. South Carolina: $1.92
10. Maine: $1.78

New Mexico - not a red state
West Virginia - is that a red state? Democrats have not won it since 1996, but before that it was won 3 straight times by Democrats. It was even one of the mere 10 states won by Dukakis, and one of the 6 states won by Carter in 1980
#3 is definitely a red state
#4 and #5 are two of the most solid blue areas there are, especially DC
then four solid red states
and Maine - not a red state

But four of the top five are not even red states.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #59)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:07 PM

78. he's not your monkey

the concept that blue states often provide more tax revenue than they receive in return has been demonstrated many times here on DU and elsewhere.

if you don't know this, then maybe you should try to have some current knowledge.

or perhaps you do already know this and merely want to nit pick whatever data he puts up.

i'm going with that.

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Response to CreekDog (Reply #78)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:32 PM

85. Nit pick?

Since you are coming to his rescue he/she called it welfare. I want to know what federal funds are welfare.

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Response to CreekDog (Reply #78)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:37 PM

89. He's doing the equivalent of putting his fingers in his ears and singing "La La La". n/t

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Response to Tempest (Reply #89)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:44 PM

138. You don't have a clue what federal funds are used for.

So you just call it "welfare".

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Response to former9thward (Reply #138)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:31 PM

163. Way to miss the point. n/t

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Response to Tempest (Reply #163)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:29 PM

171. Everyone of your posts is a non-answer.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #52)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:00 PM

74. Essentially,

For every dollar of federal tax revenue collected from Red states, like LA or MS, they get back around $1.30 in federal expenditures. For states like CA or NY, they get back about 75¢ or so. Only red state to pay more than they receive is Texas at the moment. But, TX won't be red by 2016, 2020 at the latest.

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Response to adieu (Reply #74)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:34 PM

88. The poster said it was welfare.

Do you agree?

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Response to former9thward (Reply #88)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:40 PM

90. It's an accurate description by its very definition, genius.

"Statutory procedure or social effort designed to promote the basic physical and material well-being of people in need."

Statutory procedure sends more money to red states than blue states because red states can't take care of their own residents, infrastructure, law enforcement costs, etc.


But I'm sure you'll find fault with this as well when you really should let it go.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #90)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 06:28 PM

93. Social Security is welfare now.

Again I implore you find a site you may be more comfortable with. You really have no clue what federal funds are. You actually think they are going to "residents". National parks and national forests are "residents" now. Who knew?

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Response to former9thward (Reply #88)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 07:33 PM

98. A lot of the "47%" that Romney lamented

who are on the dole, who pay no taxes, etc., are citizens of those red states. Those red states are poorer, have more poor people and have more people living in poverty (per capita, of course).

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Response to adieu (Reply #98)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 11:42 AM

132. Federal funding is not for poor people.

With the exception of food stamps most federal money that comes into a state takes care of federal obligations. These include national parks, national forests, military bases, native american reservations, social security payments, salaries for federal workers, etc. The poster said this was welfare. Is it?

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Response to former9thward (Reply #88)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 08:21 PM

100. Metaphor and metonymy obviously escape you, former9thward. n/t

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Response to displacedtexan (Reply #100)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:09 PM

134. I didn't want to point that out.

I wanted him to continue to dig his hole deeper.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #134)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:51 PM

140. Don't hold back on your accusations of "welfare".

BTW when is CA going to stop being a parasitic state which relies on red states for power and water? AZ provides power to SoCal. Maybe it should stop that "welfare".

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Response to former9thward (Reply #140)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:25 PM

148. That's not provided for free, we pay for that and sign treaties for it.

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Response to Sirveri (Reply #148)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:28 PM

149. Treaties???

Who knew CA and AZ were different countries.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #149)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:35 PM

150. Would you prefer long term contractual obligations?

They're basically the same thing

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Response to Sirveri (Reply #150)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:41 PM

153. You since you wish to divide the U.S. into red and blue

I would prefer you use your own resources to maintain your standard of living rather than exploit others.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #153)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:58 PM

154. Buying commonly traded commodities at a fair market value is exploitation now?

Wow, we're so exploitative! How dare we pay those power companies money to sell us power (which they in turn SCREWED us on and used to boot Grey Davis out of office to install Arnold).

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Response to Sirveri (Reply #154)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:24 PM

156. You call AZ a welfare state.

But you are buying things "at fair market value". Now where have we heard those terms before?

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Response to former9thward (Reply #156)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:21 PM

162. I never called AZ a welfare state, not sure who you're arguing with there.

Though considering that AZ gets 1.30 back in federal spending per dollar of federal taxes paid, and CA get .79, I can see how some folks could make such a comparative statement.

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Response to Sirveri (Reply #162)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:40 PM

166. He still hasn't figured it out

Welfare = depending upon the federal government for the basic needs of its residents at the expense of other states. As your example of AZ and CA demonstrates.

20% of the Texas budget comes from federal spending.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #166)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:32 PM

172. LOL

California gets $79 billion a year from the federal government - nearly 40 percent of what it spends.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Debt-deal-could-devastate-California-budget-2352680.php#ixzz2HiG0HoKO

Now who is the "welfare" state?

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Response to Sirveri (Reply #162)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:28 PM

170. So what federal funds would you like to see ended in AZ?

Posters in this sub-thread that you entered called it a welfare state so I assume you think the same. What is the welfare exactly? Military Bases? Servicing of the National parks? National forests? Social Security? Federal disability and pension payments? What exactly qualifies it for the use of "welfare" especially since the poster used it as a slur.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #170)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:43 PM

173. How about $1 for $1?

CA and other states like NY would have a big surpluses and AZ and other red states would go bankrupt.

"especially since the poster used it as a slur. '

You call it a slur, I call it an accurate description.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #173)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:05 PM

174. Ignoring the CA link I see.

California gets $79 billion a year from the federal government - nearly 40 percent of what it spends.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Debt-deal-could-devastate-California-budget-2352680.php#ixzz2HiG0HoKO

I guess CA would go bankrupt without federal "welfare" as you like to call it

CA received $35 billion from the stimulus, more than any other state, NY was second at $17 billion. More of your welfare.

http://www.recovery.gov/Pages/default.aspx

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Response to former9thward (Reply #174)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 10:56 AM

180. That money isn't given to the state, it's spending that occurs IN the state.

Our current budget is 96.8 Billion per year, our income is 89.5 Billion per year.

Our income sources are:
Income tax 64%
Sales tax 22%
Corporate tax 10%
Other 4%

In 2005 we received .78 for every dollar in federal taxes paid out. So if they spent 78 Billion in the state then we still sent them 100 Billion in taxes, so how exactly are we benefiting from that scenario considering we got back 22 Billion less than we sent them, all so a bunch of repuke scum bags can use our money for pork belly projects to benefit their buddies in their own districts? Also in 2005 we sent them 280 Billion so...
Source: http://taxfoundation.org/sites/taxfoundation.org/files/docs/ftsbs-timeseries-20071016-.pdf

Did we get a pile of money from the recovery act, I sure hope so, considering we've been paying more to the federal government than we've received since 1986. Also, the reason we got that amount of money was primarily for the high speed rail link that we passed a few years back via Prop 1. We also have a majority of the interstate highways due to our sheer size and position and so we received funding for road maintenance and upgrades from the stimulus.

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Response to Sirveri (Reply #180)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 11:26 AM

181. Fail.

That is money given to the state for its budget. Try again. More of that "welfare" you love to accuse other of.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #181)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 07:29 PM

182. Those are payments that support federal programs that are state administered.

Sorry you didn't actually read the article you posted and understand it, nor are you capable of making a cogent and well reasoned response to an actual post. Perhaps facebook is more your speed.

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Response to Sirveri (Reply #182)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 07:33 PM

183. I read the article but I don't get my knowledge of budgets from those.

Those federal payments are part of the state budget and the state would collapse without them. "Welfare" as you like to call it. Now go and answer your IMs.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #183)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 07:35 PM

184. ALL STATES GET FEDERAL MONEY. WE GET LESS BACK THAN WE PAY

Are you fucking dense, that's the entire point. Why do you not comprehend such a simple concept.

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Response to Sirveri (Reply #184)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 07:42 PM

185. You can yell all you want but your "welfare" slurs won't fly here.

The poster who I replied to said TX was a "welfare" state because 20% of its budget was federal money. I showed in CA 40% of its budget was federal money. But strangely CA is not a "welfare" state but TX is. Yet another attempt by you to divide the country into red and blue. Go somewhere else.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #185)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 08:21 PM

186. Nobody ever said TX was a welfare state, because they also pay out more than they receive.

Reading comprehension, get there. Red States do not equal just Texas.

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Response to Sirveri (Reply #186)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 11:36 AM

187. Nobody?

Red states are welfare states, and CA is a giving state to support those states. from post 47. Maybe you should read posts before you jump into a sub-thread. But reading does not seem your strong suit.

In addition the poster said Welfare = depending upon the federal government for the basic needs of its residents at the expense of other states. 20% of the Texas budget comes from federal spending. I pointed out using the same criteria CA receives 40% of its budget from federal spending. Now dig deeper.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #88)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:16 PM

137. No more and no less than I think this is welfare...

No more and no less than I think this is welfare...

"...promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity"

However, maybe you believe that Jefferson et. al. were writing specifically about Food Stamps... or that they simply didn't get the word correct either.

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #137)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:48 PM

139. Your post nothing to do with the discussion.

The poster said "red states" are "welfare states" because of federal funds. What funds are welfare? Are "blue states" welfare states also? Please let me know or is it just red states that are covered by your quote.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #139)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 01:47 PM

142. Actually, it did

You're just not intelligent enough to understand it.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #142)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:37 PM

151. You are correct.

I don't understand how federal funds are "welfare" if the federal government sends funds for its obligations to "red" states but apparently the "blue" states are not covered. Are NY and NJ "red" states? Is the $60 billion which is coming to those states from red and blue states count as "welfare"? Earlier in this thread a poster from NY wanted to join CA in seceding. Will that occur before or after it receives the $60 billion? Does the preamble to the Constitution only apply to "red" states? Are "red" states the only ones who receive the "general welfare"?

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Response to former9thward (Reply #151)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:49 PM

155. You continue to re-qualify tour statements

You continue to re-qualify tour statements with each additional answer given to you. Simply because you don't like the answers, doesn't mean they don't apply, it merely means you don't like the answers...

However, to make things clear for all: Do you want the formal, the legal, the informal, or the base definition of the word to apply? From there, we may address your concern with less chance of moving the goalposts even further...

Additionally, can you provide us with a list of homonyms for the word Welfare that you would like to have stricken from the discussion, and if so, why specifically for each homonym?

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #155)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:25 PM

157. That is funny.

You have not answered a single question. Just juvenile name calling.

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:44 PM

64. And we in New York should join you! ;) n/t

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Response to markpkessinger (Reply #64)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:39 PM

152. Will that be before or after you receive the $60 billion in Sandy aid?

Which of course is coming from the other 49 "red" states and "blue" states.

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 07:07 PM

95. Lol, my husband just said the same thing.

"Time to secede!"

He added that we should legalize marijuana and we'll be sitting pretty!

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Response to OnionPatch (Reply #95)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:16 PM

146. If CA legalized pot, we'd be the 4th or 5th largest economy in the world. n/t

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 02:21 PM

5. Der Gropenfuhrer is spinning in his grave.

What? He's alive?

Who knew?

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Response to onehandle (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:28 PM

25. I think he's got a movie coming out this month

I'm glad to see he's back to acting in bad movies. He starred in some of the best bad movies ever.

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Response to Jack Rabbit (Reply #25)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:32 PM

29. Have you seen the previews? What a stinker. n/t

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Response to Tempest (Reply #29)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:44 PM

35. No, I haven't

I've just seen a poster in front of one of the local theaters.

When you come right down to it, all of his movies are stinkers, but in most cases no one cares about that when watching one.

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Response to Jack Rabbit (Reply #35)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:32 PM

86. Meh, he had a few good ones back in the day

The first two Terminator films, Conan the Barbarian, Predator, Total Recall, Twins. But he's dreaming if he thinks he's ever going to be a major star again. His name has been so tarnished, first by his disastrous run as governor and then by marital infidelities stuff. Most people that I talk to here in CA really don't like him now, even among people I know that misguidedly voted for him.

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 02:22 PM

6. all that time

and all we needed was a DEMOCRAT in charge! i could cry for joy.
why am i in NC?!

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Response to barbtries (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:43 PM

34. I'm thinking about moving out West

 

if North Carolina gets any more stupid.

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Response to John2 (Reply #34)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:21 PM

46. oh it will.

it will.

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Response to John2 (Reply #34)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:24 PM

54. Just stay out of the interior valley of CA

Highly conservative and has the highest rates of poverty, lowest rate of high school graduates, lowest rate of college degree residents (18%), highest rates of STDs among teenagers, highest rates of teenage pregnancies, highest rates of health problems in children and the lowest standard of living in the state.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #54)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 10:59 AM

129. Yep. But where I live, the Inland Empire, it's turning blue here, too.

We're getting sick and tired of the GOP, and it's showing. People who have voted Republican all their lives, voted for Democrats and President Obama, and we picked up seats in our legislature and U.S. Gov't races.

However, in affluent counties like Orange County, it's still pretty much solid red, but they're in the minority. Hopefully, with the rise of Latinos, that will change as well because it won't change among the plastic-surgery-fanatic Caucasians there.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Reply #129)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:06 PM

133. Interior valley is a conservative's wet dream

Agriculture and water issues, two issues cons use to rile up the residents with.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #133)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:12 PM

136. You mean, "two issues the cons manipulate and rile up the residents with", because

I've seen how they restrict water to cities like Menifree (deep inland) and lo and behold, people there vote predominantly GOP.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #54)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:53 PM

141. Thanks so much for that non-biased report

If you're done with your negative cherry picking here's some BALANCE for someone who actually, oh, I don't know, LIVES HERE.


Some really wonderful things about one county in Central California -- Fresno:

Voter Registration for Fresno County:
Registered Voters: 410,188
Democrats: 164,663
Republican 158,267

In 2008 voters in Fresno County went for Obama. In 2012, they went for Romney so, politically, we’re purple.

Here's a few other things of which you are obviously ignorant:

Peace Fresno
Peace Fresno is an educational organization based at the Fresno Center for Nonviolence. It was founded by community members dedicated to peaceful resolution to conflict. Its mission is to seek effective nonviolent responses to terrorism. By conscientiously exploring and identifying peaceful options in our search for justice, we act to break the endless cycle of violence and counter-violence.
www.Peacefresno.org

Agriculture
In 20011, we contributed $4,924,941,000 to the state’s income in agriculture alone

Fresno officials unveil apartments for chronically homeless
http://www.fresnobee.com/2012/11/19/3072415/fresno-officials-unveil-apartments.html#storylink=misearch

Poverello House
Poverello House is a private, nonprofit, nondenominational organization that serves the hungry, homeless, and destitute of Fresno, California. Poverello House began officially in 1973, but its history goes back much further.
http://www.poverellohouse.org/history.html

Vinyard Farmers Market
This particular Farmers Market (we have many) has been featured several times on national TV and fine food and wine magazines and has become a favorite of chefs from all over the state.
http://www.vineyardfarmersmarket.com/

Blossom Trail
From the end of February to the middle of March our stone fruit trees are in full blossom and a beautiful sight to behold. People come from all over the world to view the beauty.
http://www.gofresnocounty.com/BlossomTrail/BlossomIndex.asp

The Clark Museum of Japanese Art and Culture (Hanford)
The Clark Center for Japanese Art and Culture was formed to collect, preserve, study, exhibit, and educate the public about works of fine art. While the arts of no country are excluded, the Center's primary focus will be the arts of Japan. Through these means it hopes to further understanding of the culture of Japan and foster friendship between Japan and the United States.
http://www.ccjac.org/aboutus/mission.html

And it's not even including the THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of fine, activist liberals we have here who must endure sickening geographical elitism by other so-called "liberals."





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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #141)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 01:49 PM

143. I was talking mostly about Kern County, where I live

Fresno is more liberal, but still has a high level of everything I mentioned compared to the rest of the state.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #143)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:04 PM

159. If you want to trash your own county,

that's up to you but I think it's a damned shame that a) you paint the ENTIRE Central Valley with one broad bigoted stroke and b) you perpetuate the geographical elitism that is usually reserved for Bay Areans and others who have never actually spent time in the San Joaquin Valley but only driven through it on I5 or Hwy 99 thinking that's all there is to it.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #159)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:10 PM

160. I just live here

And the entire interior valley statistics show it's worse off by most social and health metrics than the rest of the state.

Like lowest income and standards of living than the rest of the state.

I'm sorry those are inconvenient facts for you.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #160)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:16 PM

161. And I'm sorry you CHOOSE

to cherry pick just the facts that seem to fit your particular sour viewpoint while ignoring the THOUSANDS of POSITIVE facts also encompassing the San Joaquin Valley. Perhaps one day you could consider moving to the Bay Area since you seem to hate the Valley so much. Sounds like you might be happier being around your kind of people.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #161)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:36 PM

164. The facts I provided are important to someone thinking of moving here

Which is the subject of this sub-thread.

Especially parents with children.

Highest rates of child asthma, highest levels of poisoning from pesticide use and most student days missed from school because of illness in the state.

And I noticed you're not disputing any of the information I've provided.


"Sounds like you might be happier being around your kind of people."

Progressives? Yes. That's why I'm considering Burlington, VT as my next home.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #164)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:38 PM

165. Don't let the door hit you on the ass . . .

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #165)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:43 PM

167. I won't miss you and you won't miss me. But the state will miss the money my business generated.

As will Kern County as my place of business is still unoccupied after I closed it to get ready to move.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #164)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 01:37 PM

189. Bakersfield, Kern County area

I live in Kern county, the Bakersfield area also and what you are saying is absolutely true. Extremely conservative, voting about 87% republican in presidential and other elections. Also area with lower income, health issues as well all others mentioned. Teen pregnancies, STD's, graduation rates and so. Lot of extremely racist attitudes continue to prevail here.

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Response to John2 (Reply #34)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:40 PM

63. Been considering the same. n/t

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Response to John2 (Reply #34)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 09:18 PM

109. I'm with you on that .. I live in f.. ing Georgia, N.Carolina can't be as bad.

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Response to John2 (Reply #34)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:58 AM

128. It won't

The long term trend in NC is Democratic. The GOP tactic of appealing to no one but older, white conservatives will not work here in the long term. NC has seen growth in its minority population, its young college educated population, and folks who ove moved here from blue states, all of whom tend to vote Democratic. 2010 was a blip: as more of these newer voters come online, as the Jesse Helms demographic ages out of the population, and as GOP policies fail at the state level, this will be, at worst, a purple state.

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 02:24 PM

7. Love working for the state of California.

 

I'm getting a 13.6% raise this year! Thanks Jerry.

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Response to CalFresh (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 02:59 PM

13. I'm retiring in April

I don't care if I don't get my 4.62% back. After 37 years, I'm done!

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Response to Semi_subversive (Reply #13)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 07:19 PM

97. you will LOVE it!

i retired from the state at the end of 2010 after 21 years. no way could i go 37 years, congrats to you!

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Response to CalFresh (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:30 PM

27. Welcome to DU

Glad to see state employees are finally getting some relief!

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Response to wryter2000 (Reply #27)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:56 PM

37. He's lying

Just so you know.

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Response to Demobrat (Reply #37)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:52 PM

70. Check out his other posts

 

What a guy!

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Response to CalFresh (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:19 PM

83. It's more like state workers' salaries were CUT 13% over the last 2 years.

Two years of furloughs (with each year's unpaid furlough representing a 5% pay cut) and no end in sight. The budget was balanced on the backs of state workers (the middle class).

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #83)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 06:14 PM

92. Thank you!

 

I alerted on that post because it is obvious MrFresh is pulling our leg. Check out his other fine posts I you dare.

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Response to HangOnKids (Reply #92)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 09:04 PM

105. No, thank YOU.

I should have alerted on him. We can't let trolls like that make DU suck.

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Response to CalFresh (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 09:13 PM

106. I retired before I had planned because Arnold had screwed things up so badly...

that working where I did for the state of Ca. had become to insane. Arnold caused the mess that Jerry is cleaning up.

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 02:29 PM

8. To the Great State of California and Governor Jerry Brown!!!

Well Done!




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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 02:43 PM

9. I love our state!

Way to go Jerry.

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 02:44 PM

10. Wow! This is wonderul

The deficit was so deep that I did not think it would be eliminated this century.

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 02:50 PM

11. Cali is calling me home

I mean, what the hell is this West Side So Cal boy doing in Florida, anyway?

Full faith in Governor Brown. Not every decision he has made has been popular, but look where he brought the state!

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 02:53 PM

12. But, but, but...I thought we were stupid lefty hippies for electing that 1970's flower child?

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Response to LoisB (Reply #12)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 10:13 PM

112. and California was overpaying PUBLIC! EMPLOYEES! and OVERREGULATAXING BUSINESSES AWAY!!!!

and on the brink of bankruptcy!!!! Right wingers: how's that DEMOCRATIC SURPLUS a la Clinton taste?

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Response to alp227 (Reply #112)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:46 PM

168. Same nonsense we heard when they banned smoking in restaurants

And within 6 months, restaurants in the state were making more money than before the ban.

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:02 PM

14. Yeah, but he probably did it by

Raising everyone's taxes, making marijuana legal to sell, seizing everyone's guns to be melted down for road projects, and sending dissidents off to some sort of homosexual re-education camp!!!

TlalocW

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Response to TlalocW (Reply #14)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:59 PM

38. Shhhhhh!

Don't tell everyone, they won't come back. We need more people in the camps.

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:11 PM

17. Mr Moonbeam is shining today!

How long has Jerry been in there? Since 2010? Congratulations, Gov Jerry Brown, for showing this country how it's done. I always said that CA is the laboratory of the US.

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Response to ReRe (Reply #17)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:37 AM

115. Since 2011

One year ago, this month.

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Response to MoonchildCA (Reply #115)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:43 AM

116. Wow!......

...now how's that for expediency?

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Response to ReRe (Reply #116)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:58 AM

120. Indeed.

Take THAT, Ahnold... Mr. 8 years.
Who's the super hero now?

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:18 PM

19. Aww, Gee

This is great news! Love Jerry and this state!

Supposed my birther freeper mom who recently told me our state was going to hell and bankrupt will have a difficult time believing this...ha ha!

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:19 PM

20. This is encouraging news!

Hope the trend continues!

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:25 PM

22. All it took

Was getting rid of the Republican Party. Some other states should try it.

Jerry Brown for Emperor of Everything!

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Response to wryter2000 (Reply #22)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:50 PM

68. +1

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Response to wryter2000 (Reply #22)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:13 PM

81. yep, and raising taxes

and a boatload of other stuff too.

CSEA, one of the State employee unions, endorsed his policies in this past election and they've taken a beating to help balance the budget believe me.

It was not just Prop. 30.

Also things like, working at home today you say ... no more of that.

This call the job and tell them you are working at home today as you sip your latte, those days are gone. Fine w/me!! The lower paid workers never had such an option; some of the higher ups did. No more of that thanks to the rather conventional wisdom of Gov. Brown!

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:26 PM

23. Democratic Party is the party that gets rid of the Spendaholics Republicans

trashing of our government

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Response to lovuian (Reply #23)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 10:14 PM

113. Spendaholics? Nah I'd say Austeriholics who hoard cash for the lobbyists, big donors, etc.

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Response to alp227 (Reply #113)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:17 PM

147. Republican Wilson was a spendaholic, which is a big reason for the deficit.

And he had a Republican controlled legislature signing all his spending bills.

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:26 PM

24. Another Democrat cleaning up after

the republicans. There seems to be a pattern. Too bad those on the right cannot grasp this fact.

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:35 PM

30. "The year of fiscal discipline." Sounds like austerity-speak.

How much did the sales tax go up? How does that affect the poor?

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Response to Common Sense Party (Reply #30)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:44 PM

65. 1/4 of 1% sales tax increase. We increased taxes on the rich. n/t

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Response to Tempest (Reply #65)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:49 PM

66. I voted YES on that too

We needed to save our State, our Golden State and some of us old Natives know how very valuable California is, the 6th largest economy in the world!

YES WE CAN AND YES WE DID!!!!!!



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Response to CountAllVotes (Reply #66)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:51 PM

69. Enough sensible Californians saw how it would help the state.

I'm in that group too.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #69)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:56 PM

71. Pres. Obama

I hope he keeps an eye on Gov. Brown.

Lots to learn from this man who I had the pleasure to meet when he ran for President in 1976 ... and yes, I voted for him!



Can't miss w/the son of Pat Brown, Sr.!!!!

Real Californians know. YES THEY DO!!!

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:40 PM

32. This is why I voted for Jerry Brown in the last election

I didn't expect to like all of the decisions he would make, and I haven't, but I knew he could make them.

And now for something we have few occasions to a any politician in our day and age:

Congratulations, Governor, on a job well done.

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:43 PM

33. Jerry Brown: Deficit is Gone

That was quick! He is my gov and I am glad, and I am surprised at how quickly this happened. Did he mint one of those magic coins, smile??

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Response to oldandhappy (Reply #33)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:05 PM

40. It's a coin with a

Marijuana leaf on the front and a bong on the back. Can anyone imagine how much more money Ca would have if pot were legal. But I am sure glad Jerry got a handle on this. Before Bush and Arnold, Ca was the 5th largest economy in the WORLD.

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Response to Politicalboi (Reply #40)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:59 PM

169. $1.3 billion in tax revenues to the state from legalization

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1884956,00.html


Nationwide:

Economic Benefits of Cannabis Legalization
Excise Taxes $2.2 - $6.4 Billion
Sales Taxes $0.2 - $1.3 Billion
Enforcement Savings $6 - $9 Billion
Hemp Industry $6 - $10 Billion

http://norml.org/library/item/revenues-from-legalization

The national numbers are from 1994, so they would have to be adjusted for inflation.

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:13 PM

41. I love this fucking state. I really do.

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:16 PM

43. I remember Brown's signs for the 1988 presidential election:

"We the people, take America back!"

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:17 PM

45. As this LA Times article makes clear, this is a _predicted_ surplus (by end of next year)


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/california-politics/2013/01/california-budget-jerry-brown-surplus.html

After years of red ink, Gov. Jerry Brown said on Thursday that California’s $96.7-billion general fund is now poised to end next year with a surplus, thanks to years of deep budget cuts and billions in new taxes approved by voters last year.

"We achieved the position we're in because of tough cuts ... and then the people voted for taxes," he said. "We broke the logjam by going to the people."

...

Brown’s budget predicts only the second budget surplus in the last decade, with an $851-million surplus projected at the end of the 2013-14 fiscal year -- if all his proposals are approved by lawmakers.

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:22 PM

48. Great, now we can focus on paying back the

40+billion that "conservative repuplican" Ahnold borrowed in between smoking cigars and riding his motorcycle without a license.

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:23 PM

50. Gee, but I thought Dems were "tax-and-spenders" and Repubs were the fiscally responsible ones! (nt)

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Response to Nine (Reply #50)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:27 PM

58. One of many lies Republicans tell. The fact is, more than 90% of the debt belongs to them. n/t

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:23 PM

51. Jerry! Jerry! Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!

So glad he got elected in 2010 to clean up Arnold's mess. That election between him and Meg Whitman was waaaaay too close for comfort, though. I can't imagine how much worse it would be if she were our governor instead...

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Response to Jamaal510 (Reply #51)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:37 AM

125. She spent millions more than he did and still lost

As a Californian I can tell you it was never 'that close'. No more than Obama and Mitt's was. It was all media hype.

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:25 PM

55. So it works for states but not for the federal government?

 

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:27 PM

57. I hope it is true. Time will tell.

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:33 PM

61. working while going through chemo

That's my man Jerry Brown for you!!!



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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:50 PM

67. Take the Republican out of office and put a Democrat in

And the deficit disappears. It's not rocket science.

It's called math.

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:56 PM

72. Congrats, California DUers!

I miss living there but aging parents beckoned.

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:06 PM

76. The damage done by republicans may get fixed after all.

This gives me hope.

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:06 PM

77. We bit the bullet and we DID it, and we didn't have to kill off the sick and elderly and poor to do

it.

We DID have to gut mass transit and let the roads all go to hell, however.

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:09 PM

79. Could GOP's voodonomics be wrong?


But but but tax cuts always increase revenues...

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:10 PM

80. Hopefully now the rest of the country will....

see the benefit of raising taxes on the rich. Everyone else is sacrificing, the country won't implode if the richest see a slight increase in their taxes. Time for them to sacrifice a little too!

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:17 PM

82. I'd like to thank my fellow Californians for

stepping up and helping us pay off Ahnold's fuckup. We can finally get back to work.

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:22 PM

84. Can't be! Everybody knows Democrats are the party of reckless spending!

Years of horrid Republican rule and GOP obstructionism gave us our financial problems. Amazing what can be accomplished when one frees themselves from such hindrances, is it not?

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Response to Downtown Hound (Reply #84)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 06:09 PM

91. THe Republicans have been saying that since the New Deal

Their credibility is still zilch.

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 07:52 PM

99. Yes but at what price? Socialism?

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 08:56 PM

104. Now help the colleges for my grandkids

My step daughter had a horrible time finishing college in ca. They kept changing requirements, adding more and more fees within weeks before classes started, many kids she said had to drop out.

What took my daughter 4 yrs for BA took her 6 years and she had all high classes in high school so some should have been done already.



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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 09:14 PM

107. After Pete Wilson and Arnold, we deserve to have an genuine human being for a governor.

Last edited Fri Jan 11, 2013, 01:55 AM - Edit history (1)

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 09:41 PM

110. That's what happens when you put Democrats in charge.

The huge deficit was created by Republicans who blocked any actions to address it.
Now they have no say so in California government so the state is beginning to work again.

Why the hell are the Republicans considered the fiscally responsible party?
They destroy the economics of everything they touch.

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 10:09 PM

111. Note to Norquist: We voted to tax ourselves

Note to Governor Brown: Thank you, thank you.

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 11:15 PM

114. I think Jerry Brown has been so effective because he doesn't give a

damn if everyone likes him. Like Barney Frank- they just want to get in there and get the problems handled and to hell with their detractors. Jerry is a tough cookie.

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:49 AM

117. Nice Work Gov.

Thank god he's my Governor. I've proudly voted for him since the seventies. I also contributed to his Presidential campaign in the nineties.

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:53 AM

118. Now if we increased revenues

just imagine what could be accomplished...schools repaired & upgraded, state parks repaired and maintained would be a start.

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:12 AM

121. Love my Governor - hope his cancer treatment is going well n/t

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 02:49 AM

122. Thanks to Jerry Brown we're on the road to recovery

luv him

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:14 AM

124. I am proud to be a (transplanted) Californian!

I knew Jerry could do this, and he did. We've weathered the storm out here, and come through to the other side. It should give hope to folks struggling elsewhere that we can do this as a country, too. It took Democrats in control to do it, though, and this is a great example to use as we gear up for 2014. We need a Democratic House to set things moving in the right direction. Yay Jerry and California Democrats!

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 11:09 AM

130. In. Your. Face. Republican'ts!

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 11:14 AM

131. Don't worry, Governor Brown

someone will come in and return california to deficit spending again.

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Response to Thav (Reply #131)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:10 PM

135. Not for many, many years

We just voted our legislature with a filibuster proof Democratic majority.

Republicans are neutered in CA.

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:32 PM

158. great great news

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 03:30 AM

175. I'm so glad that CA has balanced it's budget, but....

.... we must always remember those thrown under the bus in the process. It truly does fall on the backs of the most vulnerable in our society, all for the sake of "balancing the budget." What price do we "balance our budgets?" The theory that "the ends justify the means" sucks and I've never agreed with it. I wish that theory could be buried at the bottom of the ocean or shot off into outer space.

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Response to ReRe (Reply #175)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 03:56 AM

177. Yes, thank you!

Too many of the wealthy are STILL not paying their fair share and too many at the bottom have paid too dearly. THOUSANDS of social programs were completely cut and it affected millions. BILLIONS were taken from pensions, schools and infrastructure, not to mention the give-backs via furloughs, wage freezes and hiring freezes which only exacerbated the problem. Those austerity measures were inflicted on the most vulnerable.

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 08:53 AM

178. IT'S A MIRACLE!!!!!!!!!!!!

What happens when the Republican don't control the budget. Things actually get done.

Maybe Brown could make a little video for Boner and show him how to get it done.

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 11:55 AM

188. The Teabaggers are in mourning.

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