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Wed Jan 9, 2013, 02:55 PM

Keith Ratliff dead. FPS Russia youtube channel producer shot

Source: Huffington Post

In apparent Homicide, GA Police say.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2013/01/09/keith-ratliff-fpsrussia-dead_n_2439284.html

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Reply Keith Ratliff dead. FPS Russia youtube channel producer shot (Original post)
darkangel218 Jan 2013 OP
ReformedGOPer Jan 2013 #1
liberal N proud Jan 2013 #2
Roy Rolling Jan 2013 #5
grantcart Jan 2013 #18
AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #3
darkangel218 Jan 2013 #7
AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #11
leftyohiolib Jan 2013 #12
darkangel218 Jan 2013 #15
joshcryer Jan 2013 #41
darkangel218 Jan 2013 #44
joshcryer Jan 2013 #47
Posteritatis Jan 2013 #72
RedCloud Jan 2013 #19
darkangel218 Jan 2013 #21
jtuck004 Jan 2013 #22
AnOhioan Jan 2013 #4
sharp_stick Jan 2013 #6
darkangel218 Jan 2013 #8
reformist2 Jan 2013 #9
Lint Head Jan 2013 #20
Xithras Jan 2013 #24
DrewFlorida Jan 2013 #10
darkangel218 Jan 2013 #13
Raine1967 Jan 2013 #30
darkangel218 Jan 2013 #31
Electric Monk Jan 2013 #34
darkangel218 Jan 2013 #35
Electric Monk Jan 2013 #37
darkangel218 Jan 2013 #38
Electric Monk Jan 2013 #39
darkangel218 Jan 2013 #42
Electric Monk Jan 2013 #45
HangOnKids Jan 2013 #49
xocet Jan 2013 #50
Electric Monk Jan 2013 #62
DrewFlorida Jan 2013 #52
lolly Jan 2013 #53
darkangel218 Jan 2013 #54
DrewFlorida Jan 2013 #51
darkangel218 Jan 2013 #55
DrewFlorida Jan 2013 #56
darkangel218 Jan 2013 #57
DrewFlorida Jan 2013 #58
darkangel218 Jan 2013 #60
uncle ray Jan 2013 #64
davepc Jan 2013 #16
KG Jan 2013 #14
uncle ray Jan 2013 #65
barbtries Jan 2013 #17
ileus Jan 2013 #23
Coyote_Tan Jan 2013 #25
ileus Jan 2013 #32
joshcryer Jan 2013 #43
ileus Jan 2013 #46
joshcryer Jan 2013 #48
freethought Jan 2013 #26
patrice Jan 2013 #27
PatrynXX Jan 2013 #28
Hoyt Jan 2013 #29
One Overlooked Fact Jan 2013 #74
Hoyt Jan 2013 #75
Dems to Win Jan 2013 #33
Ash_F Jan 2013 #36
joshcryer Jan 2013 #40
MrScorpio Jan 2013 #59
JI7 Jan 2013 #61
darkangel218 Jan 2013 #67
JI7 Jan 2013 #68
darkangel218 Jan 2013 #69
JI7 Jan 2013 #70
darkangel218 Jan 2013 #71
Posteritatis Jan 2013 #73
47of74 Jan 2013 #63
darkangel218 Jan 2013 #66
crim son Jan 2013 #76
darkangel218 Jan 2013 #77

Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 02:58 PM

1. Gee, if only he had had a gun..... n/t

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Response to ReformedGOPer (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 02:59 PM

2. Ironic

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Response to ReformedGOPer (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:02 PM

5. sad

But I'm glad you said it and I didn't have to state the obvious. "Oh Sweet Irony, How Thou Dost Tease Me"

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Response to ReformedGOPer (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:21 PM

18. If only he had an automatic weapon.

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:01 PM

3. And of course, Rush Limbaugh and co. will just blame it on us liberals, as they usually do..........

R.I.P. Keith Ratliff.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #7)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:10 PM

11. Indeed, seconded, DarkAngel.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #7)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:11 PM

12. was his views the reason he was killed - which views was that? not picking a fight i just havent

read that and wondering what i missed

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Response to leftyohiolib (Reply #12)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:17 PM

15. He was a pro RKBA activist through his youtube channel.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #15)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 07:29 PM

41. There's no evidence that's what got him killed.

It was more likely a personal dispute with someone he knew or someone who was angered at him for other reasons.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #41)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 07:43 PM

44. Youre correct, however, considering the present mob mentality against those pro RKBA

I wouldn't be surprised.

But yes you are right.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #44)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 07:50 PM

47. There is no thread with a gun death where people aren't derisive.

Just come to expect it. People revel in gun death. It's our society after all.

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Response to leftyohiolib (Reply #12)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 06:31 PM

72. Pretty much anything posted here other than the fact that he was shot is pure speculation

That's the site's primary sport, of course, so I'm sure in a few hours there will be a very detailed narrative that people will be bouncing around because they've convinced themselves their story was what actually happened.

Pretty much the only thing anyone who isn't directly investigating it right now knows is that he was shot at his workplace.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #7)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:25 PM

19. Even Hitler doesn't deserve it for his views?

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Response to RedCloud (Reply #19)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:28 PM

21. Hitler was a freaking mass murderer!! Who did this guy kill to deserve this??

What's wrong with you??

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Response to RedCloud (Reply #19)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:33 PM

22. No more than liberals do for theirs. Stopped, yes. Killed is a tactical question

along with the moral one.

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:01 PM

4. Seems having an arsenal.....

Was not the security he thought it was. Condolences to his wife.

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:02 PM

6. HE NEEDED MORE GUNS!!!

I guess hundreds of them just aren't enough, we need shoulder launched missiles to protect us from assholes that try to kill us with guns, it's the only solution.

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Response to sharp_stick (Reply #6)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:06 PM

8. He was targeted and assasinated imho. nt

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Response to reformist2 (Reply #9)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:25 PM

20. College humor is number one.

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Response to reformist2 (Reply #9)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:40 PM

24. It's the Top Gear of the gun world.

It's a drool fest of all the "toys" you can never have.

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:10 PM

10. If only there had been meaningful gun controls, maybe this nut would still be alive!

I'm not shedding any tears for this nut-job, he lived by the sword and died by the sword!

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Response to DrewFlorida (Reply #10)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:16 PM

13. Really?

Would you have said the same if the victim was an anti gun nut? It is not OK or justified to die for your beliefs. This is America, we should be able to express our opinions without fear or getting killed.

Your complete lack of empathy is noted.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #13)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 04:31 PM

30. I get what you are saying, DarkAngel but I have a caveat.

I feel badly that this man is dead and has a wife and son left behind. I do have that empathy.

That said, his opinion was about fear otherwise people would be killed by he himself. Take a look at the twitter grabs posted at the article.

There is a very sad irony that a RKBR person by the very thing he thought would save his life.

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Response to Raine1967 (Reply #30)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 05:05 PM

31. He was murdered by someone(s). Guns didnt just grow legs and assasinated him.

So many seem to be downwrite happy that this guy is dead, simply because he was pro RKBA.

Let's not forget that 40% of the registered democrats own a firearm or someone in their household owns a firearm. Are those 40% not deserveful of empathy if something were to happened to them, simply because they supported the second amedment? You let ideology get in the way of humanity imo.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #31)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 05:45 PM

34. There is supporting the 2nd am, and then there is SUPPORTING!!11!!!

This guy was a SUPPORTER!!1!!!

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #35)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 06:20 PM

37. I didn't say he did. You're arguing with the voices in your head again.

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Response to Electric Monk (Reply #37)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 07:23 PM

38. All the grave dancing posts in this thread are voices in my head?

Lmao!! So typical of you.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #38)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 07:25 PM

39. Laughing at the profound irony =/= grave dancing. nt

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Response to Electric Monk (Reply #39)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 07:36 PM

42. You can insult and grave dance all you want. Your actions to someones death speaks volumes.

Electric monk, you're blocked. Your posts are disgusting.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #42)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 07:45 PM

45. It's ok, I know reading comprehension has never been your strong suit. nt

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Response to Electric Monk (Reply #45)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 08:02 PM

49. She Wrote "DownWrite"

That is one of the fucking funniest fucking typos EVER. DOWNWRITE!!!!!!!!!!

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Response to HangOnKids (Reply #49)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 08:33 PM

50. Do people ever use "upwrite"...?

The place-kicker put the ball through the upwrites....
Without adequate space in his apartment, he was forced to play an upwrite piano....
Sam's Used Cars only purchased cars from upwrite citizens....
With a mighty heave, Hercules upwrote the fallen column....
Bill sat upwrite at the table....


(Sic) is implied in all the sentences above.

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Response to xocet (Reply #50)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 11:58 PM

62. And downthread she gets really upset about smocking deaths.



I had no idea that was so dangerous! Quick! Call congress RIGHT FUCKING NOW!

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #31)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 09:04 PM

52. I have plenty of humanity and plenty of empathy, if only crazy people weren't able to get

their hands on guns, this person would still be alive today, oh yeah, he was one of the biggest voices supporting anyone to be able to buy any gun at any time, it's not surprising that he was killed by a gun which he helped the murderer to acquire!

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #31)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 10:11 PM

53. Guns didn't grow legs and spring up to protect him, either.

So much for guns making us safer.

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Response to lolly (Reply #53)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 10:32 PM

54. Guns save alot of lives.

But this thread isn't about guns, is about an inocent man dying, a 2 year old left without a father.

Whatever.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #13)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 08:59 PM

51. I'm not sure how you could translate what I said as justification for this person being murdered?

The fact of the matter is, this person was a big part of the very problem which eventually killed him! Had guns not been so easy to get, it may very well be that this gun nut may still be alive! Add to that the fact that him having all of his guns did him no good in his own self defense! You are right in one thing, Thousands of people are killed by guns every year and this person was one of the people who enabled those deaths, I have lots of empathy for innocent people being killed, very little for those who create the problem!

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #55)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 10:58 PM

56. Last year UK had 35 gun deaths, United States 11,000! You think because we can't eliminate all

criminals from getting guns means we shouldn't make it more difficult for them. Under that stupid logic, we should not try to stop bank robbers, because we can't stop all of them, those who really want to rob a bank can still rob that bank, therefore we shouldn't do anything to stop them. Where is your empathy for the 11,000 people who are killed by guns every year? Where is your empathy for the foolish woman who kept guns in her house and allowed her insane son to have access to them? Where is your empathy for police officers who find themselves out-gunned in many situations because criminals have easy access to semiautomatic and automatic weapons?

So much for your foolhardy empathy for the man who Dr Frankenstien!

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Response to DrewFlorida (Reply #56)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 11:11 PM

57. You forgot the deaths caused by other objects!

How many murders/suicides/accidents by other means?? And how can you compare contraband in such a small isolated country to the US?

Of course you can pick and chose the stats.

Criminals will.always have access or improvise if they want to commit a crime. As long as humanity has existed on Earth, there have been slayings and violence. You just want to ban or severely control ONE weapon, out of the thousands!!!

There is another thread about banning smocking. Smocking kills inocents at a way higher rate than guns. Why not start with that first??

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #57)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 11:16 PM

58. If they will choose any different weapons to do their killing, then why do those who want to kill

many people fast always choose assault weapons and automatic hand guns? I have never heard of a mass killing with rocks, or knives!
When was the last time you heard of a killer going to a school with a knife and killing 26 people?
The answer is never!

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Response to DrewFlorida (Reply #58)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 11:35 PM

60. There have been plenty of instances where explosives and chemicals

have been used to kill 3 or more people ( what is considered mass murder ). Also , stabings where 3 or more were slained is pretty common all over the world.

You still haven't answered, should we ban the bigger culprit of inocent people dying?

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #55)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 01:13 PM

64. ban surgeries? we don't need to. that's what malpractice insurance is for.

the medical profession as a whole takes responsibility and pays for their fuck ups. just like gun owners are going to have to do.

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Response to DrewFlorida (Reply #10)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:18 PM

16. He ran a Youtube channel...

Live by the sword...like he was some two-bit street corner gangster.

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:17 PM

14. he would have wanted to go this way...

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Response to KG (Reply #14)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 01:19 PM

65. ...doing something he loved.

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:19 PM

17. i've been trying to learn more.

he may have killed himself from what i can gather - there is a lot of conjecture but as far as i can tell all the authorities have said is that he was found dead, he had been dead for some time, and there were many weapons in the vicinity of where he was found.

on one site it was stated that his hands were tied but i could not find a reliable source for that claim.

anyway. i never knew who he was until this afternoon and his death at 32 with a 2-year-old losing his father is a sad thing.

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:37 PM

23. Oh crap...it was FPS.

RIP ole pal.


I guess I'll unsubscribe now.

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Response to ileus (Reply #23)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:42 PM

25. It was the producer....

 

Not FPS himself...

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Response to Coyote_Tan (Reply #25)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 05:23 PM

32. I thought the pic over in the other

thread didn't look much like him.

That's good news.

He still pisses excellence.

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Response to ileus (Reply #23)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 07:37 PM

43. I expect FPS Russia to die from his stunts.

He's had a few close calls, his camera man (presumably the guy who got murdered; not quite sure) even got hit by shrapnel. No ear protection, no eye protection, explosions on a regular basis. It's only a matter of time.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #43)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 07:50 PM

46. some of those where he's shooting explosives rather close

I've often wondered about what to hell is he thinking. I think it's actually just to keep viewers tuning in.

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Response to ileus (Reply #46)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 07:54 PM

48. Here's the one where he almost got hit:



Skip to about 3:20. I can't link the direct time on DU because it doesn't convert the link properly.

He's definitely having to keep ramping it up though to keep the viewers.

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:42 PM

26. The producer of FPSRUSSIA KILLED WITH A GUN! GOODNESS GRACIOUS!!

Jeepers by golly! Who would have thought that a guy that produces a show about assault and military guns would actually be KILLED by a gun!

Have any DUers seen FPSRussia on youtube? A short description. Some guy with a Russian accent tries out various types of semiautomatic or automatic firearms on various types of targets. Sometimes it's just bullseye targets, sillohuette targets, sometimes it's just foam dummies, balloons, bottles filled with soda, concrete blocks, a beer keg was done once, so on and so forth. Sometimes they'll put explosive charges in the foam dummies for additional effect. They try various types of handguns, fully automatic shotguns, various types of automatic rifles, and even a few big 50 caliber sniper rifles. I also remember them being able to get their hands on some big weapons, legally.

I used to watch it regularly because it was so stupid and outraegous. I haven't watched it in many months for all of the episodes just started to look the same. I also had better things to do.

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Response to freethought (Reply #26)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:48 PM

27. Thanks.

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 04:15 PM

28. Be odd for

NRA to support Communists. O_O

Ironically I subscribed to that youtube channel after trying to figure out about bump firing with a rubber band. Someone had plenty of vids from 2008 but 2009 it's outlawed. However someone has come up with a new stock that bounces off ones body that does the same thing and thats been ruled just fine. Does the same thing. Aiming need not apply.

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 04:28 PM

29. All those lethal weapons did him no good in the end.

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Response to One Overlooked Fact (Reply #74)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 10:52 AM

75. Just what we need, more LaPierre and gun cultist BS.

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 05:37 PM

33. check out his insane tweet about carrying a gun in a theater

@keithratliff
Keith Ratliff
I went to the movies with my pistol in my pocket the whole time I was praying that somebody would try to pull a Batman! #ccw



Any man who would pray for a mass murderer to show up at a movie theater is too cruel for words.

Live by the gun, die by the gun. If the gun nuts would limit themselves to shooting each other, exclusively, the rest of us wouldn't have any concerns about their lethal hobby.


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Response to Dems to Win (Reply #33)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 06:17 PM

36. What a psycho.

If he was running in circles like that, if his friends had similar mindset, then no wonder this happened to him.

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 07:27 PM

40. Wow, I find that channel humurous at times.

But that's just sad. I wonder who did it.

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 11:21 PM

59. Looks like someone jumped on the Irony Express and never jumped off nt.

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 11:35 PM

61. why didn't he defend himself ?

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #67)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 06:25 PM

68. that was almost 50 years ago plus they make improvements ,just as they did after Reagan

got shot. plus they haven't ever killed the president themselves .

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Response to JI7 (Reply #68)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 06:27 PM

69. My point was not every assault is defendable.

The anti gun folks are spinning this tragedy any way possible. It's really shameful.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #69)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 06:28 PM

70. it makes no sense, do you think it was really suicide ?

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Response to JI7 (Reply #70)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 06:31 PM

71. No, i dont! someone killed him. It was either someone he knew or

they really caught him by surprise.

I'm sick of this grave dancing.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #61)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 06:32 PM

73. Probably because he was less omniscient than DUers seem to be about such things. (nt)

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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:48 AM

63. Live by the sword, die by the sword

When I read this article on his death I remembered Matthew 26:52 - “Put your sword back in its place,” Jesus said to him, “for all who draw the sword will die by the sword."

His sister Kelly further added her insights:

For him not to pull out that gun and try to defend himself, he had to feel comfortable around somebody. Either that or he was ambushed.

For almost a month now, gun advocates have been making a stronger-than-usual effort to push the idea that guns prevent crimes. The statements by Kelly point out the flaw in this argument: the majority of crimes do not announce themselves beforehand, they come as a surprise and therefore either the gun would not prevent the crime, or, worse, it may have caused an escalation of it.

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Response to 47of74 (Reply #63)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:29 PM

66. Youre so wrong, but whatever.

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Response to darkangel218 (Reply #66)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 02:20 AM

76. It is possible to find a way to view practically every gun death as the exception

to the sentiment expressed in the quote, but taken as a whole it is the truth and there is simply no denying it without looking ignorant.

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Response to crim son (Reply #76)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 05:41 AM

77. The truth is a young man who did nothing wrong was killed

That's the truth. He didnt hurt anyone and didn't deserve to die.

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