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Wed Jan 9, 2013, 12:50 PM

DonViejo (4,478 posts)

Poll: Low Support For Armed Guards In Schools

Source: TPM

TOM KLUDT 12:36 PM EST, WEDNESDAY JANUARY 9, 2013

The National Rifle Association's much-maligned proposal to put armed police officers in schools across the country has little support, a poll released Wednesday shows.

According to the findings from Democratic-leaning Public Policy Polling, only 41 percent of registered voters nationwide support the NRA's idea while 50 percent are opposed.

As for the attitudes toward the pro-gun lobby, the public is split. Forty-two percent said they have a favorable opinion of the NRA, compared with 45 percent who have an unfavorable opinion. That's a far cry from a late-December Gallup poll that showed 54 percent of respondents expressing a favorable view of the NRA. PPP's survey also showed that 53 percent of voters would support passage of stricter gun laws by Congress.

PPP conducted its survey Jan. 3-6 using automated phone interviews with 1,000 registered voters. It has a margin of error three percentage points.

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Poll: Low Support For Armed Guards In Schools (Original post)	DonViejo	Jan 2013	OP
All citizens, regardless of age, should be fitted with a backpack nuke.	onehandle	Jan 2013	#1
Just when you think society is getting stupider...	Wait Wut	Jan 2013	#2
What? Americans don't want their children fodder for crossfire from Rambo-inspired (or well-meaning)	hlthe2b	Jan 2013	#3
I do not want	VA_Jill	Jan 2013	#12
Here's why I think we should take the NRA up on this.	Ganja Ninja	Jan 2013	#4
They don't want to support professionals, but their own "home-grown" Rambo-wannabes.	hlthe2b	Jan 2013	#5
Exactly the would instantly turn around.	Ganja Ninja	Jan 2013	#8
That's not what the NRA is proposing though.	NYC Liberal	Jan 2013	#6
But Payment To the N.R.A., Sir For the 'Training' Of these Volunteers....	The Magistrate	Jan 2013	#13
Typical right-wing hypocrisy:	NYC Liberal	Jan 2013	#15
Yes, that's not the kind of society I want to live in.	Comrade Grumpy	Jan 2013	#7
Most teachers fork out their own money for basic supplies	Maeve	Jan 2013	#9
When asked "Who is Wayne LaPierre?", 20% correctly identified him as "NRA Spokesperson,"	yellowcanine	Jan 2013	#10
Those disapproval numbers are still way too low..	vkkv	Jan 2013	#11
Armed Guards	Steerpike	Jan 2013	#14
41% is not "little support"... that is staggering support.	cthulu2016	Jan 2013	#16
That was my first impression also.	progressoid	Jan 2013	#17

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 12:52 PM

onehandle (35,378 posts)

1. All citizens, regardless of age, should be fitted with a backpack nuke.

Total détente. End Of Problem.

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Wed Jan 9, 2013, 12:54 PM

Wait Wut (6,152 posts)

2. Just when you think society is getting stupider...

...they prove you wrong. I keep seeing all these changes in opinions on different matters. I'm beginning to think there is hope.

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Wed Jan 9, 2013, 12:55 PM

hlthe2b (47,256 posts)

3. What? Americans don't want their children fodder for crossfire from Rambo-inspired (or well-meaning)

school staff with no intense nor ongoing training? That they have come to realize that even the trained Jefferson County Deputy Sheriff at Columbine could do nothing to counter the assault rifle he faced, despite trying to engage them? What? Americans don't want their 5 and six year olds terrified by being forced to attend an armed camp? They realize themselves how easy it would be for the gun in that teacher, janitor, administrator, or even security guard's possession to be accidentally discharged or come into the hands of a child?

Gee, I guess Americans really aren't that stupid (mostly).

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:43 PM

VA_Jill (114 posts)

12. I do not want

my grandsons in a school with either armed teachers or volunteer armed posses. A resource officer is okay, I guess, though I'm pretty ambivalent about him/her being armed. A panic button that locks all classroom doors and simultaneously notifies law enforcement would be a good thing, if such could be rigged.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 01:03 PM

Ganja Ninja (15,691 posts)

4. Here's why I think we should take the NRA up on this.

To me the NRA is proposing gun control. Think about it.

If we have to put armed guards in schools then the only proper way to do it is to train and pay them. In order to do that we will need to collect taxes. The only fair way to do that is to put the burden on gun owners. They should be the ones that pay because they create the need.

That means we will have to register all guns and their magazines on a yearly basis. That registration base can be used to track guns. We can also use the tax rate on guns and magazines to make it prohibitive to own certain types of guns.

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Response to Ganja Ninja (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 01:13 PM

hlthe2b (47,256 posts)

5. They don't want to support professionals, but their own "home-grown" Rambo-wannabes.

But, yes, if you called their bluff, it would be amusing to see the effects of the backlash.

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Wed Jan 9, 2013, 01:19 PM

Ganja Ninja (15,691 posts)

8. Exactly the would instantly turn around.

But it's their idea, I just think someone should draw up a practical proposal so they have to put up or shut up. It would move the conversation forward.

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Response to Ganja Ninja (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 01:16 PM

NYC Liberal (15,599 posts)

6. That's not what the NRA is proposing though.

The NRA wants people volunteer to do this, and they want to be the ones to train them.

No tax revenue, no jobs created.

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Response to NYC Liberal (Reply #6)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:46 PM

The Magistrate (80,506 posts)

13. But Payment To the N.R.A., Sir For the 'Training' Of these Volunteers....

At bottom, this is just a scheme to get themselves on the government teat....

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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #13)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 05:40 PM

NYC Liberal (15,599 posts)

15. Typical right-wing hypocrisy:

"No government handouts (for everyone but me)"

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 01:17 PM

Comrade Grumpy (3,346 posts)

7. Yes, that's not the kind of society I want to live in.

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Wed Jan 9, 2013, 01:47 PM

Maeve (28,526 posts)

9. Most teachers fork out their own money for basic supplies

and parents have to pony up for things like tissues....where in the WORLD do the NRA nuts think the money would come from to pay for this horsehockey????

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Wed Jan 9, 2013, 01:58 PM

yellowcanine (24,444 posts)

10. When asked "Who is Wayne LaPierre?", 20% correctly identified him as "NRA Spokesperson,"

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20% said "My Congressman", 30% said "Las Vegas Entertainer", 20% said "NFL Hockey Player" and 10% said "Don't Know".

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 02:52 PM

vkkv (91 posts)

11. Those disapproval numbers are still way too low..

and the NRA approval numbers are way too high.

What are people thinking?

5 yr olds have equal rights under the 2nd amendment to own firearms too. .. and a frustrated 11 yr old who isn't happy about being bullied at school also has a right to firearms according to the 2nd amendment.

The 2nd amendment makes no distinction of age. And yet we found a need to write laws to protect the public - JUST AS WE need laws against handguns and assault rifles.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:54 PM

Steerpike (2,162 posts)

14. Armed Guards

would be incredibly popular right up to the time some off duty/retired cop accidently guns down a student...no guns=no shooting...

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 05:48 PM

cthulu2016 (7,946 posts)

16. 41% is not "little support"... that is staggering support.

The idea is INSANE so the headline is not "50% of people do not support INCREDIBLY INSANE initiative."

The sensible headline datum is that 41% do support it, which is mind-bending.

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Response to cthulu2016 (Reply #16)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 06:35 PM

progressoid (27,282 posts)

17. That was my first impression also.

I expected to see 14% or so.

Good gawd.

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