Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:58 PM
DonViejo (4,518 posts)
Officials: US may leave no troops in Afghanistan
Source: TPM
BY BY ROBERT BURNS, ASSOCIATED PRESS WASHINGTON (AP) — White House officials say they are considering leaving no American troops in Afghanistan after the end of combat in December 2014, although the administration remains committed to preventing the country from becoming a haven for al-Qaida (al-KAH’-ee-duh). Afghan President Hamid Karzai (HAH’-mihd KAHR’-zeye) arrives in the U.S. this week for meetings with top officials, including President Barack Obama. Ben Rhodes, the deputy national security adviser, said Tuesday that the White House is considering a range of options for troop levels after 2014. Officials have said the White House appears to favor keeping fewer than 10,000 U.S. troops there, but until now the administration has not said publicly it is considering a so-called zero option. Rhodes said the U.S. goal is not necessarily to keep troops there, but to fight terrorists. -30- Read more: http://www.salon.com/2013/01/08/officials_us_may_leave_no_troops_in_afghanistan/
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18 replies, 1329 views
| Author | Time | Post | |
| DonViejo | Jan 2013 | OP | |
| TwilightGardener | Jan 2013 | #1 | |
| rocktivity | Jan 2013 | #2 | |
| dipsydoodle | Jan 2013 | #4 | |
| JustABozoOnThisBus | Jan 2013 | #15 | |
| rocktivity | Jan 2013 | #17 | |
| JustABozoOnThisBus | Jan 2013 | #18 | |
| Scootaloo | Jan 2013 | #3 | |
| jody | Jan 2013 | #16 | |
| lib2DaBone | Jan 2013 | #5 | |
| SoapBox | Jan 2013 | #6 | |
| dipsydoodle | Jan 2013 | #7 | |
| daleo | Jan 2013 | #13 | |
| rachel1 | Jan 2013 | #8 | |
| Comrade Grumpy | Jan 2013 | #9 | |
| DonViejo | Jan 2013 | #10 | |
| LiberalLovinLug | Jan 2013 | #11 | |
| happyslug | Jan 2013 | #12 | |
| alp227 | Jan 2013 | #14 |
Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 05:02 PM
TwilightGardener (39,680 posts)
1. Hope this comes true.
Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 05:22 PM
rocktivity (36,623 posts)
2. Mecenaries included?
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rocktivity |
Response to rocktivity (Reply #2)
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 05:51 PM
dipsydoodle (32,615 posts)
4. That song "Little White Lies" comes to mind
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Response to rocktivity (Reply #2)
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 05:34 AM
JustABozoOnThisBus (9,916 posts)
15. No mercenaries, but perhaps a few (thousand) security personnel
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... outsourced to a contract house, like Blackwater/Xe/Academi.
deniability. |
Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #15)
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 12:50 PM
rocktivity (36,623 posts)
17. Well, there's a way to save on defense spending
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Nationalize Blackwater/Xe/Academi and draft those guys!
rocktivity |
Response to rocktivity (Reply #17)
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 01:09 PM
JustABozoOnThisBus (9,916 posts)
18. That doesn't save on Defense spending
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I think most of the costs are in Dept of State's budget. That way, Defense can deny having troops in Iraq. It's Hilary's army.
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 05:25 PM
Scootaloo (5,864 posts)
3. No troops, just drones
Response to Scootaloo (Reply #3)
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 11:01 AM
jody (26,624 posts)
16. Good point. Bring our troops and drones home. Quit murdering innocent people. nt
Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 05:57 PM
lib2DaBone (8,124 posts)
5. b-b-b-b- but ....we give Al Qaida guns and money...?
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So why do we care what they do in Afghanistan? (sorry.. I am so naive...)
No troops in Afghanistan sounds good. Now how 'bout ....no troops in Yemen, Turkey, Syria, Dubai, Libyia and 35 countries in Africa? Bring our kids home... re-build America first. |
Response to lib2DaBone (Reply #5)
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:08 PM
SoapBox (5,816 posts)
6. Super ditto!
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"Bring our kids home... re-build America first."
I agree with that...in fact, it bears repeating and bolded, to boot! "Bring our kids home... re-build America first." |
Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:29 PM
dipsydoodle (32,615 posts)
7. Afghan 'zero option' raised as Karzai set for Obama
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The White House has said for the first time it is possible that no US troops will remain in Afghanistan past 2014, as President Hamid Karzai arrived in Washington for talks with Barack Obama.
Ben Rhodes, a top US security official, told reporters the administration was still considering a range of options. Mr Karzai's three-day trip will include crucial talks with Mr Obama and other officials, but no final decision. The Afghan president wants US troops out of Afghan towns and villages. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20940394 |
Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #7)
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:10 PM
daleo (19,944 posts)
13. No U.S. troops, no Karzai
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I think he will have to decamp as well, or be killed once American troops are gone.
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:35 PM
rachel1 (538 posts)
8. There should've been NO US military presence there at all
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The entire occupation of Afghanistan was an imperialistic sham and it's still continuing to this day.
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:56 PM
Comrade Grumpy (3,364 posts)
9. Sounds like posturing aimed at Karzai. Still...
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...while I think it was meant as a threat, I choose to take it as a promise. Pretty please.
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Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #9)
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 08:12 PM
DonViejo (4,518 posts)
10. I see it as a trial balloon...
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a chance for the McCain and Graham comedy team to start complaining about the President "abandoning the Afghan people. And so, must have at least thousands and thousands of our military there."
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 08:29 PM
LiberalLovinLug (2,024 posts)
11. Very odd
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You mean that when they say they are "ending the war and bringing the troops home", they actually are???? (unlike Iraq)
wow! |
Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 08:57 PM
happyslug (10,754 posts)
12. So Obama is doing in Afghanistan, what LBJ failed to do in Vietnam?
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Declare Victory and pull out. This is what the Soviets did in Afghanistan, the Government they left actually outlived the Soviet Union by a whole year, but only after the Soviet Army left the Country claiming it had achieved its objectives.
Soviet Pullout from Afghanistan:15 February 1989 Attempted Coup to overthrow Gorbachev:19-21 August 1991 Dissolution of the Soviet Union Fall of the Communist Government of Afghanistan:April 1992 The US withdraw, and the fall of Vietnam was quicker. and that is without a coup in the US, but Nixon did resign over Watergate on August 9th, 1974: US Signed the agreement to end the War in Vietnam: January 23, 1973 North Vietnamese Army Entered Saigon: 29 April 1975 In many ways, Obama plan to withdraw all US Ground Forces, is like the withdraw of US Forces from Vietnam, and Soviet Forces from Afghanistan. a declaration of Victory then a withdraw of all forces, knowing the Government we support will fall within three years. |
Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:47 PM
alp227 (20,430 posts)
14. Some in administration push for only a few thousand U.S. troops in Afghanistan after 2014 (wash. pos
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"White House officials said Tuesday that they have not ruled out leaving no troops at all when the U.N. security mandate sanctioning the international coalition expires, saying they might find non-military means to meet U.S. objectives in Afghanistan. "
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/some-in-obama-administration-push-for-only-a-few-thousand-us-troops-in-afghanistan-after-2014/2013/01/08/847597a4-59d2-11e2-9fa9-5fbdc9530eb9_singlePage.html |

