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Fri Dec 14, 2012, 09:50 AM

Bobby Jindal, "End Birth Control Politics"

Source: Talking Points Memo

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, a potential 2016 Republican presidential candidate, called for oral contraceptives to be made available over the counter in an op-ed for the Wall Street Journal published Thursday evening.


"As a conservative Republican, I believe that we have been stupid to let the Democrats demagogue the contraceptives issue and pretend, during debates about health-care insurance, that Republicans are somehow against birth control. It's a disingenuous political argument they make."

Allowing birth control to be purchased over the counter would put "purchasing power back in the hands of consumers" and take the issue out of the political arena, Jindal wrote.


Read more: http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/bobby-jindal-end-birth-control-politics

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Reply Bobby Jindal, "End Birth Control Politics" (Original post)
Stuart G Dec 2012 OP
tanyev Dec 2012 #1
geek tragedy Dec 2012 #2
kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #22
ehrnst Dec 2012 #27
kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #35
ehrnst Dec 2012 #40
kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #41
rebecca_herman Dec 2012 #46
lbrtbell Dec 2012 #43
ehrnst Dec 2012 #3
gkhouston Dec 2012 #38
ehrnst Dec 2012 #39
gkhouston Dec 2012 #44
asjr Dec 2012 #4
Panasonic Dec 2012 #5
bunnies Dec 2012 #7
julian09 Dec 2012 #24
bunnies Dec 2012 #28
dixiegrrrrl Dec 2012 #30
Myrina Dec 2012 #6
yellowcanine Dec 2012 #8
ehrnst Dec 2012 #25
CrispyQ Dec 2012 #9
MsPithy Dec 2012 #10
Politicub Dec 2012 #11
JRS Dec 2012 #12
RC Dec 2012 #15
neffernin Dec 2012 #19
UpInArms Dec 2012 #23
hrmjustin Dec 2012 #36
Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2012 #13
bucolic_frolic Dec 2012 #14
La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2012 #16
neffernin Dec 2012 #17
jsr Dec 2012 #18
Grins Dec 2012 #20
kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #21
Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #26
Freethinker65 Dec 2012 #29
SpartanDem Dec 2012 #31
SummerSnow Dec 2012 #32
TrogL Dec 2012 #33
LeftInTX Dec 2012 #34
SkyDaddy7 Dec 2012 #37
SemperEadem Dec 2012 #42
struggle4progress Dec 2012 #45

Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 09:53 AM

1. The weather forecast has just been revised for a 100% chance of fundie head explosions.

Take your umbrella.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 09:54 AM

2. Wait, Republicans making sense on birth control?

They're going to lurch into the 1970's if they're not careful.

I agree--make it OTC.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:33 AM

22. Nope. The birth control pill is too costly for too many women,

and if it's a prescription drug (as it SHOULD be for medical safety reasons) it's covered by medical insurance automatically, regardless of deductibles and copays (ie free).

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #22)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:11 PM

27. Emergency contraception is not rx - as per medical recommendations.

It is available when a pharmacist is on duty and recommendations from the medical community are moving towards making daily dose contraceptives available OTC:


http://www.acog.org/About_ACOG/ACOG_Districts/District_II/Oral_Contraceptives_OTC

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #27)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 03:21 PM

35. I am aware of all this. They are trying to do it so that insurance companies won't have to pay for i

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #35)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 08:25 PM

40. However, the price often goes way down on otc drugs

Sudafed and Prilosec are two examples.

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #40)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 08:36 PM

41. NEVER gonna happen with BCP. Trust me.

Big Pharma knows how desperate women are to control their fertility and they will squeeze every last dime out of us. Just like they have been doing all along, all those decades when insurance refused to cover it.

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #40)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 03:06 AM

46. I hope it doesn't go OTC

I pay way more for my Allegra D now than I ever did when it was prescription only, and I need to take it 365 days a year. Due to debilitating cramps with my natural cycle (so severe I am unable to work or even get out of bed really if I'm not on the pill), there is a chance I may need to be on birth control pills until menopause except for any pregnancies that I have. If the cost goes up the way some other drugs have, I'd be spending a LOT more money just to be able to function.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #22)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 09:45 PM

43. That's why he's suggesting it be OTC

Insurance doesn't pay for over-the-counter meds.

Jindal isn't being sensible. No, he's being sleazy. Making contraception OTC forces women to pay for it, even if they have insurance.

Fuck him.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:05 AM

3. Now that more of his population will be eligible for Medicaid...

He now realizes that accessible contraception will benefit Louisana's bottom line.

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 07:51 PM

38. I don't think Medicaid covers oral contraceptives if they're used for contraception. n/t

Last edited Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:39 AM - Edit history (1)

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Response to gkhouston (Reply #38)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 07:59 PM

39. I was talking about pregnancy and childbirth, but yes

Medicaid does cover contraception.

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #39)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:44 AM

44. Maybe in Louisiana. Not in Texas.

I've recently jumped through some paperwork hoops to get OCs for my daughter. She's on CHIP, which in Texas has the same policy with respect to the Pill as Medicaid... OCs are only covered if contraception is not their primary function. It wasn't enough that the prescription explicitly said they weren't for birth control and gave a diagnosis code for what was being treated: the doctor still had to call the insurance company.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:10 AM

4. I think he just threw his hat in the 2016 race for president.

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Response to asjr (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:18 AM

5. In the trash.

 

Too many Rethuglicans don't like prochoicers. And that is how he will be labelled.

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Response to asjr (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:26 AM

7. yup. Looks like he'll run as a 'moderate'.

Good luck in the primaries!

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Response to bunnies (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:37 AM

24. Especially in Iowa caucaus where everything starts from the right wing fringe, then NH primary

 

they spend a year ahead of time preparing to be pro choice, anti gay, pro war.

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Response to julian09 (Reply #24)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:13 PM

28. Yep. And anti-gay loses him NH.

Looks like he's got some fine honing to do.

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Response to asjr (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:23 PM

30. Clearly he has, and is trying to present himself as a "moderate" Republican.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:26 AM

6. " ... Democrats pretend ... that Republicans are somehow against birth control"

Um, ask Richard Mourdock and Todd Akin and the Catholic GOP employers and Green Bay WI Dioscese whether or not the GOP is against birth control, Piyush.

Dems didn't have to say a word - all the GOP-gnashing makes it pretty obvious.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:26 AM

8. What kind of contraceptives? Condoms are already available over the counter.

Is Jindal in favor of allowing sale of the morning after pill over the counter, for example? I need more information before I am going to give him a pass on this one.

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Response to yellowcanine (Reply #8)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:06 PM

25. The OP that the article is referring to is titled

"The End of Birth-Control Politics: Over-the-counter sales of oral contraceptives will cut off a disingenuous attack line."

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:30 AM

9. It's starting to dawn on him . . .

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:32 AM

10. Bobby, dude!

republicans ARE against birth control.

Waaait a minute. It just occurred to me. Bobby Jindal is "for" access to birth control like Gov. Snyder was "opposed" to Right-to-Work (for less) legislation.

republicans lie.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:35 AM

11. Conservatives are against birth control. No one is pretending.

Jindal is an opportunistic douche. He needs to read his own party's platform and acknowledge the assault on choice in republican-led state legislatures.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:38 AM

12. An end run around insurance

If you buy medications OTC, insurance doesn't pay for them. With the ACA, most women are now getting their birth control with no co-pay, hence the freak out by some religious institutions. Make birth control OCA, that problem is solved, and women are now paying thousands of dollars a year, again, to do responsible family planning.

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Response to JRS (Reply #12)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:15 AM

15. We all knew their had to be a catch.

 

Or at least some of us. And you just caught it. Thanks.

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Response to RC (Reply #15)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:25 AM

19. There is no winning

when people who pretend to champion the rights of the people do their best to oppress the rights of the people. Hitler would be proud. Congrats Jindal! We look forward to your impending scandal or marginalization when you are one of the 20 people who attempt to get the repub nomination.

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Response to JRS (Reply #12)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:33 AM

23. welcome to DU, JRS!

nice first post

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Response to JRS (Reply #12)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:45 PM

36. Welcome to DU and I hope you enjoy the site.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:45 AM

13. Hey Piyush: Republicans ARE against birth control! Don't play us for stupid!

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:02 AM

14. Hypocritical Oaf

DEMOCRATS are demagoguing on birth control?????

From the mouth of the party that wants to regulate
my bedroom, my choices, my doctor's options, run
Planned Parenthood into financial oblivion, and
hound abortion service providers out of business?

Jindal is so arrogant he can't understand his own party.

Hang it up, Bobby.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:17 AM

16. insurance won't cover it, if its available over the counter

so no thanks bobby jindal.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:21 AM

18. Anything for attention

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:27 AM

20. Jindal's a Catholic

I can't wait for the Clan of the Red-Beanie to weigh in on the very Catholic Bobby Jindal on this one!

Pass the popcorn.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:29 AM

21. Jindal just killed any presidential aspirations he had with this.

The RW IS against birth control. There's nothing disingenuous about that - it's the plain, unvarnished truth.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:08 PM

26. Best way to reduce abortions. "Safe, legal and rare". (nt)

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:20 PM

29. And if it is available OTC.....

Will it be readily available in all areas at a reasonable price for purchase? Or at drug stores only, that can stock whatever they "morally/politically" want to or price it sky high?

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:23 PM

31. Good luck selling that to your base

you'll never make it out of a primary.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:33 PM

32. phone rings...

Jindal: Hello?
Koch brothers:Governor Jindal this is the Koch brothers
Jindal: Oh hello how are you?What can I do for you?
Koch brothers :just shut the fuck up
Jindal :Oh OK,but I..
Koch brothers: (dialtone)

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:24 PM

33. Is this the Onion or not?

Or did he inherit Romney's Etch-a-sketch. Not that I specifically remember Jindal being anti-choice/contraception but I do remember him being on the right-wing side of things.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 02:05 PM

34. This is kinda strange...really

Bobby Jindal has a master's degree in public health.

But whether BC pills are available RX or OTC would be a medical community decision, not a political one.

Are doctors pushing for this?

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:29 PM

37. What about Exorcisms?

Just asking.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 09:07 PM

42. the Dems didn't do anything to demagogue contraceptives...

you all did that pretty well all by yourselves. You didn't need a shove into that pool---you all were running off the diving board, doing cannon balls into that cesspool all on your own.

Yes, you all have been stupid--very very stupid and you all will continue to be stupid as you try to force a moving train going forward to go in reverse. We aren't going backwards, s0n. Get on, sit down and get out your ticket or get off and get rolled over.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:36 AM

45. Weren't Romney and Santorum attacking Griswald just this last January?

When presidential candidates for a party attack a leading pro-contraception Supreme Court case like Griswald v Connecticut, people will naturally infer that the party opposes contraception

New GOP slogan: "Only demagogues ever quote us!"

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