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Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:48 AM

Poll: Large Majorities Back Raising Taxes On Wealthy, Oppose Raising Medicare Age

Source: TPM



TOM KLUDT 7:51 AM EST, WEDNESDAY NOVEMBER 28, 2012

The proposal to raise taxes on those earning more than $250,000 annually one of President Obama's central campaign pitches continues to be popular among a large majority of Americans, according to the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll out Wednesday.

Sixty percent of those surveyed support the proposal, compared with just 37 percent who are opposed. The debate over raising taxes on the high-income earners was one of the defining issues of the 2012 campaign, although polls have consistently shown broad support for the proposal backed by Obama and the Democrats.

Meanwhile, an even larger portion of Americans 67 percent are opposed to raising the age for Medicare coverage from 65 to 67. Some Republicans such as Sen. Bob Corker (R-TN) have suggested raising the Medicare eligibility age as part of their proposal to avoid the so-called "fiscal cliff."

Democrats, Republicans and independents also unite in opposition to hiking the entry age for Medicare, with the opposition particularly stiff among Democrats. Opposition to such a change peaks (naturally) among those aged 50 to 64 the very people who will soon reap those benefits.

Read more: http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/poll-large-majorities-back-raising-taxes-on-wealthy



Link to ABC News/WaPo Poll:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/11/28/taxing-the-rich-remains-popular/

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Reply Poll: Large Majorities Back Raising Taxes On Wealthy, Oppose Raising Medicare Age (Original post)
DonViejo Nov 2012 OP
still_one Nov 2012 #1
OpenedMindGuy Nov 2012 #2
still_one Nov 2012 #3
RKP5637 Nov 2012 #4
OpenedMindGuy Nov 2012 #15
John2 Nov 2012 #5
RKP5637 Nov 2012 #8
RKP5637 Nov 2012 #6
jsr Nov 2012 #7
loyalkydem Nov 2012 #9
CTyankee Nov 2012 #14
FailureToCommunicate Nov 2012 #10
byeya Nov 2012 #12
byeya Nov 2012 #11
Myrina Nov 2012 #18
toby jo Nov 2012 #26
wanttosavetheplanet Nov 2012 #31
Thav Nov 2012 #13
hrmjustin Nov 2012 #22
bucolic_frolic Nov 2012 #16
AlbertCat Nov 2012 #21
mostlyconfused Nov 2012 #25
Myrina Nov 2012 #17
yurbud Nov 2012 #19
yurbud Nov 2012 #20
wanttosavetheplanet Nov 2012 #32
vkkv Nov 2012 #23
rocktivity Nov 2012 #24
closeupready Nov 2012 #27
nobodyspecial Nov 2012 #28
JRLeft Nov 2012 #29
wanttosavetheplanet Nov 2012 #30
xtraxritical Nov 2012 #33
yurbud Nov 2012 #34
xtraxritical Nov 2012 #36
Cherchez la Femme Nov 2012 #35
Cleita Nov 2012 #38
Cleita Nov 2012 #37

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:50 AM

1. The idiots in Congress better be listening

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Response to still_one (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:52 AM

2. Not To Worry!

If McConnell and Co keep Obstructing, they can kiss their jobs good-bye in 2014. The People have spoken and will again!

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Response to OpenedMindGuy (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:53 AM

3. I think you are right as long as the Democrats hold firm

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Response to OpenedMindGuy (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:00 AM

4. McConnell and Co keep Obstructing =


McConnell and Co are locked in past times, they are not part of the 21st century. For survival in the 21st century we need cooperation and not stupid competition and oligarchy government. They will never get that and need to be voted out. They are incapable of helping with the best solution. They have demonstrated that over and over again.

Welcome to DU!

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:07 AM

15. Thanks!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:00 AM

5. And I'm

 

in that 67 percent, even though I have not been Polled. I think the American people will revolt on Congress if they do such a thing. That is why any Congressman or woman were cowards, even to run on such an idea. It is why Romney ran from Ryan's ideas too. Too many Americans in the middle class and poor depend on those entitlements and especially Social Security for retirement. They paid into it and deserve it. I paid into Social Security and medicare for years, with the expectation of retiring at a certain age, if I wanted too. Now the wealthy on Wall Street and in congress, want to change the rules! They can forget it and steal the money from somewhere else. I suggest, they start with paying their fair share of taxes.

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Response to John2 (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:05 AM

8. Paying their fair share of taxes! Yes! They are parasites on this country - bankers, financial,

wall street and corporate welfare! They want everything and don't want to contribute anything. It's a bunch if BS they sling and more and more Americans are waking up and looking behind their 'show and tell' curtain.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:01 AM

6. K&R !!! n/t

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:04 AM

7. Rich people can always afford to pay more in taxes than the rest of us

and they should

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:28 AM

9. what i don't understand

is why do they keep getting elected?

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Response to loyalkydem (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:45 AM

14. Gerrymandered districts in the House.

It goes back to Republican controlled state legislatures who do the redistricting. We've got to change that. Otherwise, we'll get nowhere with a recalcitrant federal Congress...

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:29 AM

10. Come on TPM: Stop repeating the income cut off inaccurately. Even 'rich' people get the break on

their first $250,000.

EVERYBODY will get that break (if it goes thru)

Sheesh

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Response to FailureToCommunicate (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:33 AM

12. This fact needs repeating daily. Thanks.

 

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:32 AM

11. Pres Obama should call a meeting of Dept Heads and WH Staffers and say that anyone who doesn't

 

agree with the American majority on these issues are free to leave the administration now.

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Response to byeya (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:38 AM

18. Hiimself included?

All these posts about 'stand firm' and 'don't back down' ... have we ever stopped to think for a minute that his position is - and always has been - that all these things are negotiable?

He is NOT a progressive/liberal. He's a centrist/right leaning pro-business Dem.

We've got to stop fooling ourselves.

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Response to Myrina (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:18 PM

26. It's called moderation, and it's healthy

If we saw this from both sides a little more often, the ship of state would tighten up and the people would be doing a hell of a lot better.

People don't all operate like me and I'm ok with that. Strength for the center.

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Response to toby jo (Reply #26)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:56 PM

31. I think Obama also is looking for more participation from the general population

Remember what he said after he was elected in 2008 - he can't do this alone. Many people, myself included, sat the first term out for the most part. Sure, I signed online petitions and made a few phone calls to congressional reps but generally I sat on my ass and complained a lot about what was going on. I am NOT going to do that for Obama's second term. I take him at his word that he is the President of the whole country and if he hears more from the right-wingers than he does from his own supporters he has to compromise. If we all get out and get active like we did for the election, I think we'll see him stand up for what WE want and be less open to compromising our - and what I truly believe are his - ideals.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:41 AM

13. Polls mean nothing to the GOP

They are like the buzzing of flies to them!

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Response to Thav (Reply #13)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:01 PM

22. +1

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:24 AM

16. They can't raise 'em high enough

to make up for the Bush Tax cuts that gutted America,
social programs, tax fairness.

I'd be more in favor of Eisenhower rates.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:34 AM

21. I'd be more in favor of Eisenhower rates.

Well, remember Clinton imposed an Minimum Mandatory Tax on big business.... it was about what the corporate tax rate in Europe was (16%? 17%?). That along with the moderate tax rate is where the surplus came from.

We should revisit that.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:14 PM

25. that's the real problem in this tax disussion

The rich need to pay more, but if the tax rate were raised to 100% on every dollar earned above $250,000 it would not be enough to close the annual budget deficit. What then?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:36 AM

17. ... and yet that's the shit sandwich we'll get ...

wrapped up as a Christmas Gift with the tag "This is the best we could do, America. Thanks for voting for us. Love, The Democrats" attached.


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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:31 AM

19. when has public opinion ever stopped a bipartisan consensus to kiss Wall Street's ass?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:33 AM

20. the minor "problems" with Social Security could be fixed by raising the cap on income taxed for it

If you raised it enough, you could even keep the rate cut Obama put in place.

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Response to yurbud (Reply #20)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:03 PM

32. Honestly...

...why not just eliminate the cap entirely? Why should any income be exempt from Social Security/Medicare taxes? Raise the maximum that can be collected for the mega-bazillionaires if/when they claim benefits. That would shore up the programs for generations to come!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:36 PM

23. We, the 99% are the job creators.

Answer me this:

Since the top 1% already own wealth equal to 90% of the rest of us, then why do they need more wealth before they'll create any jobs?

ANSWER: They aren't the job creators - We, the 99% are!

WE are the job creators when WE buy ourselves or our friends and family gifts.

We are job creators when we buy cars, golf clubs, fishing poles, kayaks, Halloween candy, a night out on the town, new computer, office supplies, furniture, clothes and everything else that we need to sustain ourselves comfortably.

We are the job creators when we are educated enough to design, build, teach, invent, advise or help others to expand their wealth.

We, the 99% are the job creators.

The big corporations only lay people off when we the 99% do not have the money to spend to buy Big Corps' products. So what good are Big Corps anyway.. really? To prop up Wall Street? Right, thought so..

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:08 PM

24. Candidate for this year's "You Call This NEWS?" Award

The "To Figure This Out, You Had To Do A Freaking STUDY?" category.


rocktivity

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:19 PM

27. Compromise on this, to me, would be

between the Republican position of raising retirement age to 69 and a Democratic position of lowering it to 60. Make it 64.5, and there's your compromise.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:29 PM

28. "Opposition to such a change peaks (naturally) among those aged 50 to 64"

No shit. Nothing like have the rug pulled out from under you at the last minute and then the GOP will start pointing fingers and say we should have planned better.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:02 PM

29. Retirement needs to drop back down to 55.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:47 PM

30. The only people who are for raising the retirement age and the age for receiving Medicare...

... are those who have massive amounts of money and idiots who idolize those who have massive amounts of money. Anyone (including myself) who has put into the system for 35 years or more (between the ages of 50 and 64) and is now being threatened with diminished and/or eviscerated Social Security/Medicare benefits who has half a brain in their head is more than a little upset over the discussion taking place around so-called "entitlements". Entitlements, my ass! Social Security and Medicare are more accurately described as pension plans that we all have contributed to over our lifetimes. I find it interesting that this fact quite often brushed under the rug by many politicians and pundits.

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Response to wanttosavetheplanet (Reply #30)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:57 PM

33. The actual scam that Congress is running is that SS and Medicare

 

are both funded by payroll deductions, they are not part of the deficit at all. They are called "entitlements" because people that paid in over the years are entitled the retirement money. RepuliCONs are using "fiscal cliff" as a smoke screen to cover decreases in Social Security. RepubliCONs have been itching, ever since FDR, to eliminate or modify the program.

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Response to xtraxritical (Reply #33)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:00 PM

34. and the bitter irony is Obama looks like he's going to use his political capital the same way Bush

did only possibly succeed at damaging those successful programs instead of building on their success.

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Response to yurbud (Reply #34)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 10:22 PM

36. Just today Geithner offered up $400B in spending cuts to "health care" over ten years.

 

That's $40B a year out of Medicare and Vet. Programs. Here's a link to an HP article.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:14 PM

35. This will be the litmus test of all litmus tests

The results here will show the principles of the present-day Democratic Party.

The results will show who the present-day Democratic Party actually work for: the rich or the middle class -- and lets not forget the poor, hungry, ill, and homeless.

And I mean TAX the fuggers, not even a compromise by not increasing their taxes less than what was called for.

If they go ballistic, then I say Eisenhower (a Republican!) their bidet-fresh asses. 91% should help clear up our deficit nicely, and if they want to 'go Galt' or move to lets say a nice tax free place like Somalia -- GOOD! They're far from irreplaceable. I'll personally pack them a lunch. Buh-bye. Don't write.
We'll need and miss them as much as we'd need and miss leeches.

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Response to Cherchez la Femme (Reply #35)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 12:15 AM

38. +1000

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 12:14 AM

37. It's what would make sense, but since when is commons sense

even thought about.

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