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Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:07 PM

Jesse Jackson Jr. To Resign.....

Source: Chicago Tribune

Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. will announce his resignation from Congress today in a letter to House Speaker John Boehner, Jackson's brother Jonathan Jackson said.

He spoke to the Chicago Tribune by telephone.

The congressman could not be reached for confirmation. Boehner's office also could not be immediately reached.

Jackson, 47, a South Side Democrat, has been treated for bipolar depression and has been on a medical leave from Congress since June. He has been under investigation by federal authorities for alleged misuse of campaign dollars and also has faced a congressional ethics probe.

Read more: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-brother-rep-jackson-to-announce-resignation-20121121,0,3302727.story

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Reply Jesse Jackson Jr. To Resign..... (Original post)
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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:07 PM

1. Hopefully another Democrat will replace him.

 

Any takers?

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Response to Panasonic (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:15 PM

4. His district is majority African-American and solidly Democratic

No chance of it becoming Republican.

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Response to Panasonic (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:15 PM

5. If he won his seat without campaigning ...

... then the district should be safe for any Democrat.

Unless the Repubs finance one Republican and five Democrats in a runoff. Split the "D" vote, and sneak an "R" into the House.

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Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:26 PM

30. There is no runoff.

There will be a D primary and a R primary. The two will face each other. It has been at least 20 years since the Rs have funded any candidate in that district so the D winner will walk in.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:12 PM

2. Another black voice taken down. His father's(Rev. Jesse) voice was sorely missed in the election too

 

Hope though his career is resurrected soon.

Shame in 1990's that Jerry Brown and Rev. Jesse Jackson did not make the White House as a team.

I am still wondering how Patrick Fitz sleeps at night? He seemed to forget to prosecute someone else who was in his reach.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:13 PM

3. taken down?

 

You mean, by himself?

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Response to naaman fletcher (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:16 PM

7. pretty much

no one was responsible for Junior's mistakes but himself

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Response to dlwickham (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:18 PM

52. I'm not sure about "mistakes", but I'm glad to see him give up the seat

If is has been suffering from mental illness. that is not a "mistake", although he may have made other mistakes.

Nonetheless, a seat in Congress is not a birthright. I'm all for treating mental illness with compassion, but that doesn't including keeping a Congressional seat open for you. There are plenty of other things he can do with his life.

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Response to BlueStreak (Reply #52)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 06:24 PM

66. IF he was suffering from bipolar syndrome as he claimed

that has nothing to do with his mistakes which he did make

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:15 PM

6. So, you think he should have been allowed to break the law with impunity? nt

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:19 PM

8. another lynching of another Black male. Hope Obama commutes the sentence

 

One nation under Obama with peace and liberty for all times sake.

Pardon Jesse Jackson's son, or commute his sentence.

One nation forever under Obama.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:23 PM

11. save the hyperbole and answer the question ffs..

do you think he should have been allowed to break the law with impunity?

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Response to frylock (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:26 PM

13. Has he been found guilty of anything? Seems like another rush to judgement.

 

And I see no law having been broken.
Same with Rodney B.

Commute Rodney B.sentence too. He is a really nice guy.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #13)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:47 PM

18. He's getting ready to plea deal

 

that pretty much makes him guilty. Regardless, do you think he would resign if he weren't guilty.
The Feds have him pretty much cold.

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Response to glacierbay (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:55 PM

20. So you side with the prosecution.

 


I always if I were on a jury would vote in those cases NOT GUILTY.
Don't even care if I heard any evidence.
My vote would be constant.

because of history.

and being from NYC, and watching the news year in year out (50 shots here, 41 shots there, etc.) well, If I were a juror in a case like that, I know what my verdict would ring out loud and true.

btw
Elliott Spitzer and Jim McGreevey resigned. Both were not guilty of anything. Neither was OJ Simpson.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #20)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:02 PM

21. Elliot Spitzer resigned because he was paying for hookers

 

Jim McGreevey resigned because of the scandal and he realized that the rest of his term would be about his coming out.

So your saying no matter how strong the evidence is, you would vote not guilty?
It's people like you that make the justice system not work.

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Response to glacierbay (Reply #21)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:14 PM

23. What scandal? His being gay is NOT a scandal. It was love. Beautiful love.

 

So he was said to have paid for sex. Then arrest everyone in Las Vegas. Are you a prude?

NOT GUILTY

btw, are you judge, jury executioner?

You cannot say anyone not tried and sentenced by a jury and a judge is guilty of anything

and you must admit, OJ Simpson was found innocent of all charges. NOT GUILTY
(and I myself would have ruled that too.)
I would have ruled against that white haired old cop though if he were on trial, especially if they brought up his past oddities including mishandling the Sharon Tate murders.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #23)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:16 PM

24. um...he was married

when he cheated on his wife, with a man, at a truckstop. If that's not a scandal then you don't watch much news.

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Response to WooWooWoo (Reply #24)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:20 PM

26. Because the stupid religious world we live in makes people have to hide to get ahead.

 

What scandal?

Love is a beautiful thing. Just wish the other guy had also been in love.
A broken heart is the cruelest thing to happen to a lover.

But then, because of Gay haters, that is how Mathew Shepard got strung up and lynched.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #26)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:24 PM

28. WTF does this have to do with Jesse Jackson Jr.?

 

Answer-nothing.

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Response to glacierbay (Reply #28)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:26 PM

29. You asked, does anyone resign without being guilty

 

And I answered Spitzer and McGreevey. Neither was guilty.

by the way - NEITHER WAS NIXON for your information.

Lots of people resign without being guilty of anything at all

So if you don't like me mentioning Spitzer and McGreevey, don't make innuendos about nobody resigning without being found guilty and then not wanting to hear a zillion answers proving you wrong.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #29)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:53 PM

44. Part of the plea deal being worked included his resignation

 

if you took just 3 seconds and googled it, you wouldn't look so foolish.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/11/jesse-jackson-jr-plea-dea_n_2114081.html

And now he has resigned.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #29)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:42 PM

55. Spitzer admitted what he did.

A shame too, because he was really working on some of the corruption problems. Good guy, made a mistake/had an itch, whatever you want to call it, but he admitted it and resigned before the legislature could impeach him for it.

As a public officer (and a DA) what he did was illegal, and cannot be overlooked. Want to fix it? Change the law.

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #55)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 05:24 PM

61. It's strange with Spitzer

 

a few days or a week or two after, I happened to be walking in NYC on the upper east side and saw him and his wife, walking non-chalantley hand in hand kissing like teenagers.

I am no longer in the conspiracy theory business.

However, for the life of me, the two did not look like their was a scandal just a few weeks earlier.

It looked more like a threat had passed and their safety now assured or something.

(i.e.-like he was set up and forced to admit to something not true, by the Bush PTB.)

almost as if the secret that might have been exposed had nothing to do with him at all.
He just copped to it to protect someone else.

because there were no cameras around. There were no people but regular NYers in the area.
NO reporters around.

Just 2 lovebirds in love walking in Central Park.

and no, I did not imagine it

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #61)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 05:29 PM

62. I believe you.

His departure from office never sat right with me either.

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #62)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 05:33 PM

64. I'm sorry

 

but I don't, why would he admit to it? Eliot Spitzer is a very forceful, intelligent, no nonsense man and politician who couldn't be intimidated. That's why I believe that he did do it.

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Response to glacierbay (Reply #64)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 06:03 PM

65. Oh, I believe he did it as well.

I don't believe it was an issue with his wife either. Some marriages are like that, privately if not publicly.

The timing of the 'discovery' of him as one of the patrons seemed overly auspicious.

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #65)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:45 PM

69. OK

 

I see where you're going with this.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #61)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 05:30 PM

63. You're saying that he was set up and forced to admit to something he didn't do?

 

I thought you said you were no longer in the conspiracy theory business.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #61)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:26 PM

67. Spitzer was a real crimebuster

and those high powered individuals he was going after did him in. I still think he was one of the good guys. I don't think he sould have resigned over a relationship with a paid sex worker. Geez. That seems just ridiculous. I truly hope he goes back into politics because he really cares about the people.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #23)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:22 PM

27. And OJ was found guilty in Las Vegas

 

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of Armed Robbery and Kidnapping.

The scandal with Jim McGreevey was him still being married and seeing men at the same time, I never said it was a crime, on the contrary, I'm glad for him that he was able to be honest about himself and finally tell his wife.

Judge, Jury and Executioner? WTF do you come up with this nonsense?

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Response to glacierbay (Reply #27)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:27 PM

31. OMG. Are you saying OJ was sleeping with a man? LOL

 

What were you reading? The rag with batboy in it?

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #31)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:39 PM

41. ??????????????

 

Whe the hell are you talking about? Where did I say that OJ was sleeping with a man?



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Response to glacierbay (Reply #41)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:09 PM

48. "The scandal was him still being married and seeing men at the same time.."

Since you wrote that sentence immediately after one about OJ - it may have seemed like the "him" in question was Simpson.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #48)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:14 PM

50. Ok

 

I'll concede that and fix it, thanks.
But, given this posters history, I suspect that he knew exactly what I meant.

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Response to glacierbay (Reply #50)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:33 PM

54. No problem

I get what you are saying about the poster history now though. Hadn't seen all the other nonsense.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #23)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 11:16 AM

111. you may be the best at this ever, I do have to give you credit for that

you play the Intertubes like a pro


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Response to graham4anything (Reply #20)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:05 PM

46. if OJ isn't guilty of anything- why does he owe the goldman family so much money...?

 

wait- let me guess...another case of the white man keeping the black man down?

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Response to glacierbay (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:45 PM

56. And they were going after his wife.

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Response to oldbanjo (Reply #56)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:53 PM

57. I saw that

 

not quite sure what to make of it, it might be to get him to accept the plea deal and part of the deal would be that his wife would be off limits.
Regardless, he did resign today and that's pretty damning in of itself.
I'm just glad he did the right thing and denied the repukes an issue to hammer us with.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #13)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:28 PM

32. If he hasn't been found guilty of anything, why are you asking for Obama to pardon him

 

"or commute his sentence"?



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Response to AnotherMcIntosh (Reply #32)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:29 PM

33. Why not. Libby got his commuted. So should Siegleman

 

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #33)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:34 PM

38. "Why not"? The origional question, and yours, exposes your knowledge that he is guilty.

 

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #13)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 10:26 PM

70. It maybe part of a plea deal.

It is a shame, but if he is guilty than it is of his own making.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:30 PM

35. You know not everythings a conspiracy, don't you?

 

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Response to glacierbay (Reply #35)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:33 PM

37. Lynchings are not conspiracies, They are lynchings

 

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #37)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:36 PM

40. Jesse Jackson Jr.

 

is being lynched? That's really offensive to those that were actually lynched, this is a vile offensive post and should be edited or deleted.
Shame on you.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #37)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 06:46 AM

76. Shame. Shame. Shame.

disgusting and ignorant of the horrors of lynching. This is about as much of a lynching as the faux fucking "high tech lynching" of Clarence Thomas.

It's a vile, dishonest shameful claim.

Sick and sickening.

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Response to cali (Reply #76)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 08:51 AM

77. I guess you are the latest judge, jury executioner. I guess you believe Siegelman belongs in jail 2

 

Rev. Jackson's son should of said FU and stayed, like Charlie Rangel did.
Another one they have tried to lynch but couldn't.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #77)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 08:56 AM

79. Yeah

 

that's fucking brilliant, let's give the repukes something to beat us up on and then when JJJ was convicted and removed from the House, that would look real good for our side.

BTW, no one is being lynched and your equating this to a real lynching is repugnent and vile.
You should be ashamed of yourself.

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Response to glacierbay (Reply #79)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 09:01 AM

81. so do you think Siegleman should be in jail forever too?

 

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #81)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 09:06 AM

82. This thread isn't about Siegleman

 

it's about Jr., quit trying to hijack the thread and get back to the subject.
Why do you want to give the repukes an issue to beat us up on? Jr. is getting ready to plea to a deal, that would make him guilty, he is probably going to spend some time in prison, so why would you want him to hang on to his seat when he would be removed anyway?
By resigning, he short circuited the repukes on an issue.

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Response to glacierbay (Reply #82)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 09:13 AM

85. So Siegleman wasn't lynched? Rodney King wasn't Lynched? Trayvon Martin wasn't??? Mathew Shepard?.

 

It's a simple yes and no question

something you have asked me about 110 times in the 100% of the posts I made in the gunny place that were all anti-NRA and anti-gun.

If you or your buds say that someone who is guilty is guilty or quits must be guilty, then I am asking you this Thanksgiving season, when people talk pardons/commutings

is Siegleman guilty or not guilty

Does Siegleman deserve to be in jail or doesn't he?

Our law is our law.

And you don't have to be black to be lynched as Mathew Shepard and Sieglman have found out.

Same people want Susan Rice to quit too

How many lynchings do we need in America?
Was Rodney King given what he deserved too?

Reminds me of the vigillante in Florida that killed an unarmed innocent kid that might have cured cancer in the coming years, but is now dead.
Trayvon Martin was lynched.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #85)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 09:17 AM

86. This thread is about Jr.

 

Try to stick to the topic at hand.

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Response to glacierbay (Reply #86)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 09:32 AM

89. said a person who is not guilty doesn't resign or get found guilty

 

then I give you hundreds of examples and you say stay on subject

you can't have it both ways

I support someone unconditionally. Forever. My love is not fly by night.

(sort of like how an NRA man will support the NRA 100% of the time, whether they are correct or not, or

how the NYC cops support the blue wall of silence no matter if someone shoots an innocent man 50 times or not) like they raped that Dialo in the police station

Me, I will support Rev. Jackson and his family. Rev. Jackson after all was on the terrace with Dr. King that fateful day in Memphis.
This is no crime at all.

But then Siegelman is in jail for years and years. Guess he deserved it, as he was found guilty, eh?

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #89)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 09:39 AM

91. Fine

 

support Jr and family, who said you can't?
Meanwhile, he resigned yesterday as part of possible plea deal and he's probably going to prison for misuse of campaign funds, which is a big no no.
What does the NRA or the NYPD have to do with any of this? What does Sr. being on the balcony with Dr. King that day have to do with this?
Your posts are getting more bizzare with each passing day.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:52 PM

43. Nice Race Card Play - Was it the Black President or Black Attorney General that forced Mr.

Jackson from Office.

Lynching has a specific definition. Given that he's still alive, your usage is inaccurate and inappropriate.

And, when we tolerate unethical, perhaps illegal behavior from Democrats, we only bolster the Republicans.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:00 PM

45. If Obama commutes the sentence of that POS- his term would be effectively over.

 

He'd be rightfully pilloried in the press, and it would give the republicans an excuse to continue their obstruction.

triple-j is an asshat-and-a-half, and never should have run for re-election in the first place.

the voice that will replace his and congressperson will also be black- but it might not be male.

good riddance.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 05:19 PM

60. Unfortunately the president can't commute mental illness

I am sure his condition will be taken into account at sentencing.

You can't give people a pass for this type of thing just because of their race, but mental illness is very real and may in his case be a strongly contributing cause. I don't know the particulars.

One can have sympathy, but one cannot say that this sort of thing is acceptable. Let's just quote the gentleman himself:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-34222_162-57553250-10391739/rep-jesse-jackson-jr-resigns/
"I am aware of the ongoing federal investigation into my activities and I am doing my best to address the situation responsibly, cooperate with the investigators, and accept responsibility for my mistakes, for they are my mistakes and mine alone," Jackson wrote.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 06:42 AM

75. wow. that's impressive bullshit.

He's a fucking crooked politician. You remind me deeply of denizens of a certain website.

Now Jackson can concentrate on making the best plea deal he can get and ensuring that he receives a generous pension.

I don't give a shit what color he is, it's good he's retiring.

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Response to cali (Reply #75)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 08:54 AM

78. I guess of course you want Siegleman to remain in jail the rest of his life too. Sad. Very Sad.

 

and why do you repeat the same answer in two separate posts on the same thread?

Judge, jury executioner.

That is not America.

I will be interested to see what Rev. Sharpton says. His is the only voice besides Obama's that I care to listen to anymore. Rev. Al NEVER LIED TO ME.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #78)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 08:58 AM

80. In case you hadn't noticed

 

Rev. Al ain't running to defend Jr., what's that tell you?
WTF does Don Siegleman have to do with this, this is about Jr. resigning under the threat of criminal prosecution for misuse of campaign funds.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #78)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 09:43 AM

93. This has zip to do with Siegelman.

I'm not judge, jury or executioner, pumpkin. He's copping a plea.

And though I love Reverend Al, he lied to all of us about Tawana Brawley.

Your comparing Jesse Jackson retiring from the House and copping a plea to lynchings. That is so offensive, vile, disgusting that I don't have the words for it.

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Response to cali (Reply #93)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 09:55 AM

95. No he didn't. We don't know the truth about Tawana and never will. Do you watch Homeland?

 

The person who's mom was run over by the politicians son (and the daughter of Brody was a passenger in the car) was paid a visit by her.

The daughter of the dead mother said get out of my house and STFU becaue I will lose my settlement millions if I talk or anyone catches wind of what was done

Now leave my house she pleaded

We will never know what happened, and it was not Al's business anyhow.

It is not a lawyer's job to care anyhow. It is however, the lawyer's job to defend a client no matter what and to try to get a client off.

And yes, Maddox and Mason were two more black men that got taken down.Both could have been senator, governor, mayor, president if they weren't taken down too.

Just another day in America.

Until President Obama overcame all those that were taken down.
May we defend Susan Rice forever.


edit to add- most people say Homeland is the single most realistic political story ever shown as fiction on tv. I know its a tv show and fiction, but it might as well be real, that is how realistic it is.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #95)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 10:05 AM

96. Bullshit

 

she lied and Rev. Al helped perpretate the lie.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tawana_Brawley

And what does this have to do with Jr. resigning from the House yesterday?

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Response to glacierbay (Reply #96)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 10:15 AM

97. A male always must back a female who cries rape. 100% of the time.

 

and I don't hold it against Rev. Sharpton. If a man doesn't back a woman who cries rape, nobody would be able to protect women ever.

(or do you also back Akin? One is the same as the other. Either rape is rape or it isn't).

It is very unhealthy to hold such long term grudges over things they aren't privy to anyhow.

It was dumb ass grudges that caused people to toss LBJ in the river and allow Nixon/Bush/Reagan to enter the presidency over a little wedge issue that in the scheme of things mattered little to all the social issues in America's history.

The long ball is more important than any specific item.

(Same as a drowning man being blamed for a drowning woman that would not have been saved anyhow. All people wanted was for Teddy to drown himself. )

Keeping ones eye on the prize is far more meaningful than "doing the Dukakis".

and yet some back the cold blooded killing of Mr. Trayvon Martin, who died solely because he was black in a state where racism is alive and daily shown to be.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #97)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 10:19 AM

98. ????????????????????

 

are you talking about?

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Response to glacierbay (Reply #98)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 10:23 AM

99. you for some reason brought up a name from the past who said they were raped.

 

She said she was raped.

We must always back and believe someone who says they were raped

Either that, or one would side with Akin.

there is no other answer when someone says they were raped.

rape is rape.

If a woman says they were raped, I for one believe them. Any civilized man or woman would.
Because once you say you don't believe it, then no one would believe any woman who says they were raped.

again, you keep bringing up these things then you say the thread is not about that.
Then don't bring the things up in the first place if you don't want someone providing examples saying it is not true.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #99)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 10:31 AM

101. Find the post

 

where you claim I brought up the name Tawana Brawley, I looked and I can't find it, however, I did find that post where you brought up Rev. Al and that's what led to Miss Brawley's name being brought up.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014313808#post78

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014313808#post93

Now you need to apologize or edit your post.

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Response to glacierbay (Reply #101)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 10:37 AM

103. you just admitted you brought her name up. I didn't.

 

I said "Rev. Sharpton never lied to me".

I did not mention the girls name. Nor would I ever mention her name in print unless someoen else did first.
And we shall never know the truth anyhow. Just because she backed off it, don't mean she wasn't paid to back off it, perhaps by the NYS police or something.

We don't know the truth

and besides one always must back a person who says they were raped.
Or nobody would ever be believed.

I apologize if you yourself didn't mention the name, though you yourself furthered the faux meme.IMHO

Why don't you just ignore my posts like 19 of your Pro- gun thread buddies already do if my viewpoint offends you so?

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #103)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 10:52 AM

104. I did not bring up her name

 

it was in the second link I provided but since you can't seem to click on a link, I'll provide you with the text.

cali (75,936 posts)

93. This has zip to do with Siegelman.







I'm not judge, jury or executioner, pumpkin. He's copping a plea.

And though I love Reverend Al, he lied to all of us about Tawana Brawley.

Your comparing Jesse Jackson retiring from the House and copping a plea to lynchings. That is so offensive, vile, disgusting that I don't have the words for it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014313808#post93

Now you can either apologize or edit your posts.

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Response to glacierbay (Reply #104)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 11:17 AM

106. ok so you didn't bring it up, but as said, you owe me an apology as I didn't bring it up either

 

big whoop di doo

playing word semantics
I am man enough to walk away from fights without using a gun and will apologize for your specifically not saying it

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #106)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 11:20 AM

107. Why would I owe you an apology?

 

I didn't say you brought her name up, I said you brought Rev. Al's name up which led to Tawana's name being mentioned.
Don't you read posts.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #103)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 10:54 AM

105. Because I don't put people on ignore

 

I would rather engage in debate.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:38 PM

15. He took himself down

 

The evidence is pretty damning. Theres no conspiracy here. He's actually doing us a favor by not giving the repukes an issue to hammer us on.
And I doubt seriously that his career will be resurrected anytime soon, he's probably going to do time in prison.

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Response to glacierbay (Reply #15)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:30 PM

34. "do time in prison"? If he's smart, he'll make a deal to name names. He knows where the bodies

 

are buried (metaphorically speaking).

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Response to AnotherMcIntosh (Reply #34)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:33 PM

36. We'll see

 

but last I heard was that any plea deal will include some time in prison.

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Response to AnotherMcIntosh (Reply #34)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:05 PM

47. Members of Congress

don't get to make deals to "name names". They are the names.

To me its the same situation that we had with "Dollar" Bill Jefferson in NOLA. They guy was a crook, he had 80,000 cash in his freezer, and had the hubris to run for re-election. Its one of the few times I've ever voted for (a fairly moderate) R candidate, who won the election.

That seat was in a Gerrymandered 75+% black district, and although we've since recaptured it, it was a terrible thing to do to his constituents and party.

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Response to Sgent (Reply #47)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:21 PM

53. You say, "Members of Congress don't get to make deals to 'name names'."

 

When you get to be the U.S. Attorney General, let me know.

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Response to glacierbay (Reply #15)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 12:57 AM

74. couldda done a bigger favor and not cost the state a special additional primary

and a special election now!!!!
There was NO chance of his seat going republican in 2012 if he did not run imo

dont do the crime if you cant do the time
and he is trying every stall on that

Now investigating his wife aka his paid manager, and the campaign money she misused too

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Response to lunasun (Reply #74)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 09:08 AM

83. I agree

 

He maybe thought that Dad could do something to help him out of the jam he was in. Who knows?

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Response to glacierbay (Reply #15)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 09:13 AM

84. Good Points, However

 

The repukes and the talking bobbleheads are definitely going to HAMMER on the fact this scandal, related to Obama's former senate seat, was kept under wraps until after the election.

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Response to Iggy (Reply #84)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 09:20 AM

87. Because that's all they got left

 

they got their asses handed to them in the elections and if they want to go down that road, I say let them, it will show the american people just how shallow they are and hopefully in 2014, we can take the House back and increase our lead in the Senate.

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Response to glacierbay (Reply #87)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 09:30 AM

88. Getting Off Topic....

 

I assume you recall the last midterm election did not go well for democrats.

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Response to Iggy (Reply #88)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 09:34 AM

90. True

 

but I can always hope and pray that the public will wake up and realize that the repukes have nothing to give to the country except more of the same obstructionist policies.

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Response to glacierbay (Reply #90)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 09:40 AM

92. FALSE Hope

 

You're kidding right?

people who think guys like Mourdick and Akin actually belong in congress-- THEY are going to wake up and see the light?

Hah hah hah!!! that's a good one.



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Response to Iggy (Reply #92)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 09:43 AM

94. Probably

 

but I'm an eternal optimist, I see the glass as half full as opposed to half empty.
At least we Missourins kept Akin out of the congress, that's gotta account for something.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:48 PM

42. What??

Is this for real?

Who took him down?

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:10 PM

49. "Hope though his career is resurrected soon"...?

 



and another black voice will rise to take his place. hopefully it will be one with a whole lot more integrity.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:15 PM

51. He took himself down.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:20 PM

9. just saw this tweet

BREAKING RT @LukeRussert: Aides to Speaker Boehner tell me they have received resignation letter of Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr.

http://bit.ly/UWUIVV

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:21 PM

10. About time

I am not a constituent, but this really was shameful.

He did not serve his constituents since June, and now the taxpayers will have to pay for a special election?

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Response to question everything (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 10:50 PM

71. Winning re election only to resign the day before thanksgiving????

Expect the Jesse Jackson name & family tarnished for a long long time. When exactly did the news of the FBI investigation of JJJ come out, again? Could Jackson not have resolved his legal problems pre election? Was there a correlation between questioning by authorities and Jackson getting depressed?

I can't imagine this Thanksgiving for the Jesse Jackson family.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:24 PM

12. Mental health issues can be just as debilitating as physical health issues

 

I'm very sorry for his suffering. I hope he continues to get good treatment and is able to live a stable life.

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:18 PM

25. I believe he suffered from depression....

Depression over getting caught. He's crooked as a bolt of lightning, and he wasn't even half-way through his first term when the investigation started, I believe. There were rumors of his crookedness even while he was campaigning, and the same for his wife, too.

It's no conspiracy against an African American man. This is a crooked pol who's going to take a plea deal in order to avoid spending more time in jail.

I can't believe Alan Grayson supported him for re-election.

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Response to kurtzapril4 (Reply #25)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:59 PM

58. If you suffered from bi-polar disorder, you might not be so flip...

I used to work with people who suffered from bi-polar disorder (formerly known as manic-depression.) It is very common for people who suffer from this disorder to go on crazy spending sprees, or spend lots of money that they don't have, while in the manic phase of their illness. I had one guy who was a stable family man and went to prison for writing bad checks while on bizarre shopping sprees. Buying stuff that he gave to others, often strangers.

It is also a very hard to properly medicate. Lithium works for many, but the side effects make it difficult for many to take, and the dosage needs to me monitored closely because the sufferer's brain chemistry can change drastically. The other really sad side effect is that once a person becomes stable, they decide that they don't need to continue taking their meds. Then they relapse, and the whole process starts over.

Maybe he is just another crooked politician, maybe not. But I don't see the need for you to behave like a republican about it. That is a mental illness also, ya know.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:29 PM

14. Sounds like a plea deal is not far off

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:42 PM

16. I wish him well. (nt)

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Response to pinto (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:35 PM

39. Me too, couldn't have had an easy life, father gone, father controversial

huge expectations and in some ways given a pass because of his name only. I hope he comes to grips with himself, who could live with that legacy? Just sad for him. He's a human being who has been under a microscope his whole life.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:43 PM

17. isn't that the same district that had Mel Reynolds and Gus Savage?

If that is the case, one has to ask if that seat is somehow cursed.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:04 PM

22. I hope he gets treatment and can continue his life happily

Mental health issues can be overcome. I wish him and his family well.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 05:00 PM

59. sad

Very sad

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:29 PM

68. I'm so sad for his father, Jesse Jackson Sr.

Jesse Jackson fought so hard for civil rights and anti-poverty. I just think Jesse Jackson should have treated his father's legacy with greater care. The whole thing just makes me sad.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 11:36 PM

72. I haven't closely follow what has been happening

But I hope he continues to get help and his life becomes calm.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 11:55 PM

73. heard on NPR he allegedly paid for home improvements with campaign funds

Definite no-no.

But then again, looking at all the legalized bribery that goes on in Congress, JJJr. isn't the only one misusing funds, I'm sure.

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Response to wordpix (Reply #73)

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 10:59 AM

110. His wife is also reportedly in the cross hairs

Both seem destined to spend time behind bars, but he is desperately trying to at least save her.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 10:27 AM

100. Power corrupts.

It's appalling how money has corrupted politics and how so many good people give in to it.

Time for big money to get out of politics. No one is immune to its allure.

No politician should ever be trusted.

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Response to alarimer (Reply #100)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 10:33 AM

102. Absolute power corrupts

 

absolutely.
And you are 100% correct.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 02:15 PM

108. Allan West

is now available.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 02:42 PM

109. What a terrible shame.

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