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Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:39 PM

Boehner Wants Obamacare On The Chopping Block In Debt Negotiations

Source: TPM



SAHIL KAPUR 10:27 AM EST, WEDNESDAY NOVEMBER 21, 2012

In a new op-ed for the Cincinnati Enquirer, House Speaker John Boehner argues that the Affordable Care Act should be on the table for cuts in a deficit reduction deal.

He writes:

The presidentís health care law adds a massive, expensive, unworkable government program at a time when our national debt already exceeds the size of our countryís entire economy. We canít afford it, and we canít afford to leave it intact. Thatís why Iíve been clear that the law has to stay on the table as both parties discuss ways to solve our nationís massive debt challenge.

The Ohio Republican also promises to use his House majority to go after Obamacare through the oversight process, mentioning recent efforts by the Ways and Means Committee to probe whether the administration is using taxpayer funds inappropriately when it comes to the health care law.

Over the past couple of years, I have noted there are essentially three major routes to repeal of the presidentís law: the courts, the presidential election process and the congressional oversight process. With two of those three routes having come up short, the third and final one becomes more important than ever.

Vigorous oversight of the health care law by the House can be expected and, in fact, is already under way.


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Link to Boehner's Op-Ed:
http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20121121/EDIT02/311210016/House-GOP-angling-repeal-health-care?odyssey=mod%7Cnewswell%7Ctext%7CFRONTPAGE%7Cp&nclick_check=1

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Reply Boehner Wants Obamacare On The Chopping Block In Debt Negotiations (Original post)
DonViejo Nov 2012 OP
Ecumenist Nov 2012 #1
24601 Nov 2012 #86
Ecumenist Nov 2012 #110
24601 Nov 2012 #111
Ecumenist Nov 2012 #121
roguevalley Nov 2012 #91
Gregorian Nov 2012 #2
Scuba Nov 2012 #3
justabob Nov 2012 #44
Scuba Nov 2012 #55
loudsue Nov 2012 #48
ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #49
aquart Nov 2012 #53
graham4anything Nov 2012 #58
rsweets Nov 2012 #78
AAO Nov 2012 #71
Scuba Nov 2012 #72
AAO Nov 2012 #74
Skittles Nov 2012 #104
Scuba Nov 2012 #107
AAO Nov 2012 #112
Skittles Nov 2012 #115
AAO Nov 2012 #116
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AAO Nov 2012 #118
AAO Nov 2012 #113
flamingdem Nov 2012 #103
ozone_man Nov 2012 #119
MaynardGeeKrebs Nov 2012 #4
Blue Owl Nov 2012 #5
BlueMTexpat Nov 2012 #6
msongs Nov 2012 #7
JohnnyRingo Nov 2012 #23
Panasonic Nov 2012 #8
daybranch Nov 2012 #40
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24601 Nov 2012 #120
John2 Nov 2012 #9
grilled onions Nov 2012 #10
chuckstevens Nov 2012 #11
AAO Nov 2012 #73
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:41 PM

1. Delusional son of a bitch forgets his place and the fact that they FUCKING LOST!!!!

I'm ready to jump off the cliff, Barack. Got my parachute ready...

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Response to Ecumenist (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:54 PM

86. His "place" is two heartbeats from the Presidency and the senior person in the US Government

in the Congressional body from which, according to the Constitution" all tax bills must originate.

Co-equal branches of government does not place the President over the Speaker and does not place the Speaker over the President.

If the United States goes off the "fiscal cliff" only party comes from Defense - a huge portion slashes social spending.

Knowing one's place has a long history of being a racial slur and has no place on DU.

Edit for quotation mark in Reply title


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Response to 24601 (Reply #86)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 01:38 AM

110. I'm talking about BOEHNER & I know the history of my comment being being used as a racial slur...

being that I'M BLACK! Apparently, you don't know who I am. NEW HERE? If we go off the CURB or SLOPE, it's not going to be the catastrophe that certain parties are trying to be gin it up to be. IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE MITIGATED AND REVERSED, (ALSO BACKDATED), as long as it's taken care of before the end of January.

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Response to Ecumenist (Reply #110)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 11:53 AM

111. What? I'm supposed to recognize you because you overuse Caps Lock? Fresh out of free passes

for screamers and race card players.



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Response to 24601 (Reply #111)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 12:33 AM

121. WTF?!! You're the idiot who accused me of drawing the race card when I was referring to BOEHNER

as forgetting his place as the leader of the losing side in this election. You just didn't know I was black before you assumed something that was completely idiotic, without taking time to READ WHAT I POSTED. NEVER brought of anything regarding race, (BTW, THERE IS ONLY 1 RACE, Human) until you made that assinine comment about regarding racist code having no place on DU. Remember how to read AND comprehend, cuz DAMN! SMDH

Oh, I used caps so that EVEN YOU can understand what I meant and one more thing. Since WHEN has the racist dog whistle of "knowing one's place" EVER been applied to white folks? Because an inquiring world wants to know. And because I understand that you have issues with comprehension, take your time...I'LL WAIT...

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Response to Ecumenist (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 06:51 PM

91. i want to be thin. neither will happen.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:42 PM

2. No comment

https://

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:42 PM

3. Me too John. We'll replace it with Medicare for All, including dental, optical and hearing services

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Response to Scuba (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:26 PM

44. +mental

would be really great.

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Response to justabob (Reply #44)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:54 PM

55. Agreed. I'm remiss. Thanks.

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Response to Scuba (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:40 PM

48. Absolutely!

Or make the public option so cheap it puts all the health insurance companies out of business.

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Response to loudsue (Reply #48)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:46 PM

49. +1000 nt

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Response to Scuba (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:51 PM

53. Wonderful idea. Bernie Sanders really wants the dental.

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Response to Scuba (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:58 PM

58. YUP. Obama has outfoxed the awipes on the right once again

 

It is humorous, only thing I hate is so many on our side don't see it.

Roped the dopes again.

Too bad we can't have him as President forever. No one in our lifetime will ever be 1/2 as good.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #58)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:46 PM

78. + 1 ..n/t

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Response to Scuba (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:27 PM

71. With a free genitalia wash with every urology exam!

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Response to AAO (Reply #71)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:28 PM

72. Huh? Are you suggesting my position is unrealistic? Or am I reading too much into your post?

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Response to Scuba (Reply #72)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:29 PM

74. Just baiting the republican trolls! I know you're not one, Scuba!!

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Response to Scuba (Reply #72)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 01:30 AM

104. you want I should kick troll-baiting AAO ass, Scuba?

I'D DO IT FOR YOU MY SWEET

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Response to Skittles (Reply #104)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 04:29 AM

107. LOL I think AAO is AOK, but thanks, Sweetie.

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Response to Skittles (Reply #104)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 05:44 PM

112. I'm not a troll

I guess I have a unique sense of humor, or maybe I need a sarcasm tag. I do think the lack of facial expressions makes my humor hard to understand sometimes. I apologize to anyone I offended.

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Response to AAO (Reply #112)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 06:24 PM

115. aw no AAO

I said TROLL BAITER, which is how you kinda referred to yourself. I knew you were kidding, and I am kidding too!

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Response to Skittles (Reply #115)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 06:57 PM

116. Whew!

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Response to AAO (Reply #116)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 07:02 PM

117. YEE HAW!

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Response to Skittles (Reply #117)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 07:18 PM

118. This is beyond thrilling, now stop!

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Response to Scuba (Reply #72)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 05:47 PM

113. Just anticipating the next R/W talking point. I should have been more clear.

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Response to Scuba (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 12:43 AM

103. They want to get rid of subsidies to the takers

and they cannot stand the idea of the freedom and peace of mind that Obamacare will bring about .. so to their side any cuts would be a psychological win, anything..

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Response to Scuba (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 10:14 PM

119. That

is what Obama should have done the first time. Maybe the second time he will do it right.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:43 PM

4. Using some of that "political clout" your party just won??????

Lets see, when you were predicting Mittens would get over 300 electroral votes, you said you'd have a mandate to implement your (bad) ideas. So Obama won in an electoral blowout, and you still have a mandate? WTF??????

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:45 PM

5. Mr. Boner, what is your major malfunction?

What a freakin' idiot.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:46 PM

6. No. Just. No. eom

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:47 PM

7. Obama has already said he is willing to give in, so repubs are upping the demands nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:07 PM

23. Yeah... If Obama hadn't mentioned compromise the Repubs would fall in line.

I barely got through that sentence without laughing at the absurdity of the statement.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:48 PM

8. Request denied.

 

Your precious Defense budget is now on the chopping block. All but 10% of it.

That should end Rethuglican's bite.

Also a new federal law will be passed to fix the Republican gerrymandering all over the United States and balance itself out by 2018.

Boehner has nothing. Absolutely nothing. He's history in 2014.

It will be by his own hands - and OFA's work on removing every single Republicans from future consideration for 2014, 2016, and 2018 to prevent gerrymandering again.



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Response to Panasonic (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:12 PM

40. OFA and gerrymandering

sorry to say but I say little effort on the part of OFA to fight gerrymandering here in Ohio. Te constitutional amendment to rid us of gerrymandering for a long time was defeated almost 2 to 1. Maybe now OFA will open their eyes to imporetant issues such as getting fair elections and a democratic majority in the House of Representatives. They never fought that batle although many many of us activists tried to get them interested. Now we hear they want us to motivate people to support the President's legislative agenda. Missing the call to activists here, I haveno good idea what that woulkd be, but it would be great for the country if it included a reduction of gerrymandering.

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Response to Panasonic (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:30 PM

75. We got totally screwed here in Ohio on gerrymandering.

Boehner ran unopposed in the past election and will likely run unopposed next election. The Dems just don't want to waste money in the 8th district with so many Republicans and right leaning voters here. I would love to turn my district Blue but I just don't see it happening anytime soon.

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Response to Panasonic (Reply #8)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 11:56 PM

120. "... a new federal law will be passed...?" How do you infer that, especially since redistricting is

primarily a state by state process?

http://redistrictingonline.org/redistlawreview.html

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:48 PM

9. So

 

in other words, he still wants to be an obstructionist. Obamacare is not on any table and he is just blowing off smoke. States have an option to opt out at their own peril. Biehner needs to keep blowing off smoke at something he can't do anything about. The President just have them between a rock and hard place, like he has every where else. Taxes will be going up after December. If it goes up on the middleclass, hang it around Boehner's neck. He got till Christmas to chew on it.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:50 PM

10. Let's Start With HIS Healthcare....

and continue on with a pay cut plus No raises for THEIR wages. They talk so boldly when it's OURS but never when it's THEIRS!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:51 PM

11. FUCK YOU!

Unbelievable! However, in some ways this is good. I really want the GOP to keep being the delusional, obstructionist, asshole jerks we know. If they keep it up, they will get slaughtered again in 2014 and we may have a Democrat House and a filibuster-proof Senate.

Did they not learn ANYTHING from November 6, 2012?

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Response to chuckstevens (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:28 PM

73. NOT ONE FUCKING THING! It's almost unfathomable!!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:56 PM

12. I think he may want the fiscal cliff.

He speaking to his electorate but the election is over.

So I think he speaks to his powerful benefactors that they will get something in trade for the money they spent trying to reduce their taxes.

We may have to throw him a bone. But I don't care if we don't.

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Response to Festivito (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:04 PM

19. He

 

is not going to get any bone spouting out to the Cincinnati Enquirer. Don't miscalculate President Obama. He already did it before but Obama means business in his second term. He has nothing to lose laying the hammer down on the Republicans. Boehner is in Ohio too, not Alabama or Kentucky. If taxes go up on his constituencies, the Republicans will pay a huge price in the state of Ohio. They do have a Republican Governor and a Republican Senator. The Dems can just turn Ohio completely Blue. Ohio will be off the map for good for the Republican party.

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Response to John2 (Reply #19)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 07:39 AM

108. OTOH, Boener can raise taxes and blame Obama and Democrats.

And, people forget, quickly.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:59 PM

13. Boehner can want a magic pony too, but he still won't get it. n/t

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:00 PM

14. Only if we get single payer instead. Best to put Boehner on the chopping block. nt

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Response to valerief (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:05 PM

20. I would be down for that.

It would be the best from both sides....care for all, saves people money including the "job creators" and it would lower the deficit.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:01 PM

15. Republicans

Like Boehner have learned nothing.They may have keep the house but Democrats won the election.Obama spanked Romney 51 to 47 and Democrats pick up 2 seats In Senate and 8 In the house.They can't have It be their way or highway anymore.

Obama Isn't going to cut his major domestic policy achievement.Boehner needs to accept reality.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:04 PM

16. Spam deleted by gkhouston (MIR Team)

 

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:04 PM

17. Well, since they won the election, I guess we have t.... Hey!

It should be obvious the majority of Americans approve of Obamacare.

These people have the resilience of the Energizer Bunny and more balls than a major league umpire.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:04 PM

18. Uh, Mr. Boner...FUCK NO!

oh...and Happy Thanksgiving.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:06 PM

21. Give This Son Of A Bitch...

....A vibrating double-headed dildo, a 55 gallon drum of bourbon, and three thousand gallons of spay-on tan; then tell him to go fuck himself.
God I am so sick of listening to that blubbering sack of shit whine (wine?) like a '74 Ford Pinto.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:06 PM

22. Hey Boner

Go Cheney yourself.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:07 PM

24. You just keep thinking, Butch. That's what you're good at.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:07 PM

25. They never give up. The Republicans have been trying to destroy Social Security and Medicare

since the inception of both. Fifty years from now, they will still run political campaigns against Obamacare.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:09 PM

26. How about chopping big oil tax breaks and subsidies?

Why is it that we don't hear more about cutting "corporate" welfare programs? How about doing away with all of the perks congress gets? How about cutting subsidies for big corporate farms? How about making it the law that "ALL" income is subject to SS taxes no more caps? How about making congress take a pay cut, and pay for their own health insurance?

The idiot republicans in congress need to be removed, along with any democrat that can't find cuts without putting it all on the backs of the 99%!

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Response to Andy823 (Reply #26)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 12:02 AM

97. are you kidding? Cut subsidies to Big OilNukesPharmaInsurance?

That is blasphemy to repukes!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:09 PM

27. fuck that.......n/t

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Response to dhill926 (Reply #27)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:32 PM

45. What dhill926 said......n/t

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:14 PM

28. Big fat FTS on that, Bonehead.

I leave it to you fellow DUers to guess what FTS means.

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Response to DinahMoeHum (Reply #28)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:05 PM

61. +1000 nt

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:22 PM

29. re:Boehner Wants Obamacare On The Chopping Block In Debt Negotiations

id love to see congress salaries on the chopping block even though it wont happen.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:25 PM

30. The comments section at Cincinnati.com overwhelmingly anti boehner!

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Response to alp227 (Reply #30)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:00 PM

59. Wow ...

And the CI was (30+ yrs ago) such a conservative leaning paper, with a decidedly conservative leaning audience. My ... How times have changed.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #59)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:10 PM

94. Cincinnati area is conservative leaning is it?

Cincy city mayors gave bem democrats since the mid 80s.

But currently a Republican named Steve Chabot serves for the US House district (OH-1) that includes the city. Conservative icon Robert Taft Jr was also elected by the district. Chabot first won election to the house in the 1994 Republican sweep, lost to a Democrat who rode Obama's coattails in 2008, and won back his old seat in the 2010 Tea party revolution.

Before 2008, CIN had a second daily paper, the post. Also had a right wing ed board and struggled against the enquirer.

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Response to alp227 (Reply #30)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:30 PM

76. thanks for that, alps. boner's playing with People's Health..

AKA Fire.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:33 PM

31. K & R

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:34 PM

32. Screw Them

The GOP has more to lose than Dems if we go off cliff. Time to jump!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:48 PM

33. Hey boner

go shove it!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:49 PM

34. Not surprised.

Boehner still believes that somehow, the 2012 elections were a "draw."

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:50 PM

35. I expect gop to act in reprehensible ways like this. However, I blame dems for

not holding their end up in this debate over the last 3 years on things like this. This should be an easy case for dems to make so that the opposition party looks like idiots when they bring up arguments that make no sense. Dems have to add to the conversation so that everyone knows it's silly to suggest that ACA is on the chopping block, for at least two reasons:

1) ACA is paid for and does not add to the deficit. It would add to the deficit to repeal it.

2) Simple: republicans want to cut taxes to the bone then tailor spending accordingly (but don't really mind running up the deficit and blaming it on others). Dems should take the natural, opposite, economically-defensible position that governments FIRST determine needed spending levels, then TAILOR REVENUES TO MATCH SPENDING NEEDS. It's fine to evaluate programs to determine if they are needed and efficient...dems should have no problem with that, but ACA IS RECENTLY EVALUATED LAW ALREADY DETERMINED TO BE NECESSARY AND DESIRED. IT IS THE LAST PROGRAM THAT SHOULD BE ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK.

Makes me angry that pundits, journalists, and dems allow space for irrational arguments like this. Should be Mocked the way Zbignew slammed Senor on Morning Joe this morning.

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Response to wiggs (Reply #35)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:25 PM

69. Boehner is playing to the insurance industry

 

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Response to wiggs (Reply #35)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:52 PM

80. Actually

Government should first discern how much money is draining out of circulation to savings and net imports and set the deficit (or surplus) to that amount. After that, the government should decide what services are desirable and how much to pay for them. Finally, the government should set up the tax structure to produce the previously determined deficit (or surplus).

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Response to wiggs (Reply #35)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 12:05 AM

98. it's b/c Dems are beholden to banks, Wall St, BigPharma, BigInsurance...

They don't want to disturb the status quo of getting their fat campaign contributions.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:53 PM

36. Does GOP stand for Greedy Obstructive Pricks. If so, he exemplifies his party.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:56 PM

37. State races MATTER! Republicans got FEWER total Congressional votes in 2012

John Boehner is claiming a "split mandate" because the GOP still has a seventeen seat majority in the House of Representatives. He intends to use that power to continue the obstruction of government for at least two, and probably eight more years. Republicans have a safe majority ONLY because they have firm control of state legislatures in most red and many swing states. Re-districting after the 2010 elections was a process owned and controlled by Republican state legislators.

The ultimate irony here is that the result of that re-districting process will keep the GOP in the House majority EVEN THOUGH REPUBLICANS RECEIVED FEWER TOTAL VOTES in the 2012 election. The total count (according to the Daily KOS) was 53,952,240 Democratic to 53,402,643 Republican!

Taking back State Legislatures (which are also a product of partisan districting) must be a priority. Tom DeLay led the famous charge in 2004 to re-district Texas congressional districts as soon as they had a firm grasp on the state legislature. They boldly re-drew the map between the traditional ten year census intervals, thus grabbing six more "safe" Republican House seats.

The next political battle MUST be at the local level. If Democrats don't win local elections, minority advantage (for the GOP) will be enshrined for generations in the House of Representatives. The Electoral College already favors small rural states. Democrats must also work for a re-districting process that will make congressional seats and legislative seats more competitive.

If we don't, advances in the progressive agenda will be blocked at every turn.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:03 PM

38. Here's the typical Republican response:

"OK, you won. Now here are our demands."

(I got this from someone quoted in a HuffPo article, but I don't remember who it was that said it originally.)

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:10 PM

39. Want to save some big time money? Implement SINGLE PAYER available to all !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:14 PM

41. And I want Boehner on the chopping block.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:22 PM

42. Obamacare REDUCES the deficit

ffs

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:23 PM

43. he's out of his mind.

he must not even read the news. what an asshole.

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Response to barbtries (Reply #43)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 12:09 AM

100. he did not even factor in the election. Then again, he's paid by Kocheads to say this BS

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:37 PM

46. that right there

means no deal

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:37 PM

47. What district that this ass hat represent? Can't dems get his constituents to issue a recall or

at least get some folks up in arms against this? And get it on the news???

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:48 PM

50. This makes me SO ANGRY!!!



The law has passed, the Supreme Court agreed with it, and the president won the election.

What gives them any right to be so obstructionist and harmful? ARGH

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:49 PM

51. WE WON!

Elections have consequences. You aren't getting your way. Go cry.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:51 PM

52. hey boner....

the american people rejected your party

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:54 PM

54. Simple meme to repeat verbatim

"We're not taking health insurance away from 20 million Americans so that Boner can score political points"

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #54)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 12:08 AM

99. simpler meme: Elections mean something and you lost

so get over it, Grand Old Pricks

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:55 PM

56. If conservatives think they're angry...

they've never met me or a lot of liberals who feel like I do. I'm fucking LIVID at their idiocy. Enough is enough. They remind me of my daughter when she was 2, except they're much worse.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:57 PM

57. Denied. Man up, Boinger, your side LOST!!

We'll do it the President's way.

(you orange f*ckwad)

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:01 PM

60. MARK MY WORDS: The people backing him will take it out on those in their "care" (and I'm NOT talking

about DIRECT care givers here) if they don't get what they want.

There's some FAT salaries at stake out there, so there's some people who have indebted themselves based upon those salaries and they WILL GO ALL OF THE WAY for themselves, because it is so very very very easy to obscure what happens to those numbers on those spreadsheets, I mean, easy to obscure what happens TO PEOPLE because of what these RISK MANAGERS do. Watch for RIFs in already minimal staffing, weird Weird WEIRD scheduling, cutting all kinds of corners, you name it. There's a whole INDUSTRY of consultants out there ready willing eager and able to help the number-crunchers to trick CMS. Screw the people in those beds. They'll bless them, cry, and sing them sweetly off into the hereafter as soon as possible.

BOOMERS and boomer families BEWARE!!!!

Boehner et al = DEATH PANELS.

The disabled and elders of this country are going to be held hostage by the Republican party and as Republicans have so eagerly and CLEARLY demonstrated in the past, as long as it's someone else doing the dying, that's all fine and glorious, hallelujah amen!


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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:07 PM

62. Hahahahahahahah!!!

That was a good joke, Boehner! Tell us another joke!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:07 PM

63. Great! Medicare for all, then. Sounds like a fair compromise. Would cut costs dramatically and

the infrastructure is already in place!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:07 PM

64. You know what they say about wanting in one hand...

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:11 PM

65. I think he's snorting self-tanner again

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:14 PM

66. Our debt is larger than our economy?

Really? Shouldn't someone notify Apple, the NYSE, Exxon-Mobil and BP please?




He's such a douche.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:21 PM

67. Looks like the House will turn blue in 2014

Adios two party system

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Response to eringer (Reply #67)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 12:10 AM

101. yeah, time to work on that next

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:23 PM

68. You've got to be kidding me

Fuck Boehner and the orange horse he rode in on. These guys have a lot of nerve!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:25 PM

70. Too much absurdity for one day.. I'm gonna break!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:34 PM

77. You guys don't get it.

Boehner's adversary isn't Obama.

It's Cantor, who wants the Speaker's seat.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:49 PM

79. Yeah...no /nt

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:54 PM

81. Alcoholic control freak

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:56 PM

82. I recall Reagan in 1980 accusing Democrats of "Trying to thwart the will of the people"

I think it is time we use that phrase and turn it around on them.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:26 PM

83. how much more money will they waste trying to take away something from the people

while they keep their large salaries, COLA raises, and benefits up the wazu - they are vile dirt

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:34 PM

84. You know,,,

Between my husband and I, we will be paying more taxes even if those making less than $250k get a tax relief and we don't. And, I ain't complaining about it. Let's do a Thelma and Louis and drive right off the cliff. The 99% backlash against the 'pugs will be brutal!!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 04:41 PM

85. What "Massive Expense"?

That is a serious charge so one would expect Boehner to detail what those "massive expenses" are. The CBO score shows that it actually is fully paid for and indeed will help reduce the deficit. I guess Boehner is just looking to get his butt kicked, like Romney.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 05:07 PM

87. screw that

make the rich pay for their wars.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 05:30 PM

88. I've got a better idea Boner...

Go sit on an umbrella, open it, and then spin yourself around on it for a few hours. Have a nice day.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 06:22 PM

89. Learning from the BEST, eh Boehner ???!!!






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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 06:44 PM

90. These mother fuckers just don't get it.

Time for the Obama Machine to find candidates for the WEEPER of the House's seat and Bachman and every dumb ass repug that thinks they can bully the American people. Start running ads now and throw their asses out in 2 years. Make every republican a RELIC.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 07:45 PM

92. I thought the ACA was "the law of the land"?

Why o why does anyone give any Re-blame-ican the benefit of the doubt? They lie 24/7.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 08:26 PM

93. The 2 parties will find a way to go over the cliff while being able to reasonably blame one another

 

for the ensuing austerity.

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Response to trouble.smith (Reply #93)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 12:13 AM

102. yeah right, blame Dems equally when it's repukes obstructing whatever it is

Obama, Dems and the majority of people want and vote for.

Good try to say, "Both parties are responsible" but does not work here.

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Response to wordpix (Reply #102)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 02:16 AM

105. I didn't say that.

 

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 11:49 PM

95. Will the RW Fringe Break The Last Congress's Record For Trying To Repeal HCR?

The 112th House Passed A Bill To Repeal HCR 33 Times. What about the 113th?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 11:59 PM

96. "probe whether the administration is using taxpayer funds inappropriately." Boner's gonna get that

black man out of the WH if it's the last thing he does! F-ing mo

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 02:25 AM

106. Then hang onto the door handle, Mr. Boner, as I press down on the accelerator over this "cliff"

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Nov 22, 2012, 08:43 AM

109. Really Sir ...

If you have a boner more than 4 hours, you should see a d octor.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 06:14 PM

114. Looks like the do nothing congress will be at it again for four more years.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 12:37 AM

122. Boner is just posturing for the tea party. n/t

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 03:31 AM

123. No surprise there, right?

The schmucks in the GOP are just going to keep on with their agenda. So it behooves us all to have President Obama's back, just as in his first term.

Just because Boehner is making his list for Santa Claus doesn't mean he's going to get what he wants.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 02:27 PM

124. Want in one had and shit in the other bonehead...nt

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