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Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:51 PM

Romney Claims He Lost Because of Obama "Gifts"

Source: New York Times

A week after losing the presidential election to President Obama, Mitt Romney blamed his overwhelming electoral loss on what he said were big “gifts” that the president had bestowed on loyal Democratic constituencies — including young voters, African-Americans and Hispanics.

In a conference call on Wednesday afternoon with his national finance committee, Mr. Romney said that the president had followed the “old playbook” of wooing specific interest groups — “especially the African-American community, the Hispanic community and young people,” Mr. Romney explained — with targeted gifts and initiatives.


Read more: http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/14/romney-blames-loss-on-obamas-gifts-to-minorities-and-young-voters/



I was sort of feeling sorry for the guy, until I read this.

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Reply Romney Claims He Lost Because of Obama "Gifts" (Original post)
democrattotheend Nov 2012 OP
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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:52 PM

1. Who?

 

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:54 PM

4. You know. The footnote.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:52 PM

2. Shameless LOSER.

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Response to AzDar (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 08:27 AM

106. LOSER

I guess that his promises to the rich, and brain dead, that taxes would not change, or be lowered were something quite different. The man surely has no shame. Jim

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:54 PM

3. Impossible. His 47% remarks were taken out of context. He surely didn't mean them.

He's a racist tool. Was, is and will be.

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Response to SoapLovah (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:58 PM

9. I don't know if he's racist per se

But he definitely is clueless and out of touch.

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Response to democrattotheend (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:54 PM

58. Yeah

Last edited Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:17 AM - Edit history (1)

well he is an out and out racist. All the dog whistles of free stuff, phones ect during campaign. His whole campaign was geared to white low information voters, not minorities at all in any respect. His religion has racist doctrine still adhered to even though in 1979 they allowed that black people had souls and could go heaven, thank kolob! I'd be willing to bet that the reason they changed this doctrine is because they were facing lawsuits. Please, not a racist per se???? Right. You are entitled. Oopps I'm sorry I used that entitlement word that only the lazy 47% expect.

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Response to heaven05 (Reply #58)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 08:13 AM

104. faced lawsuits

The federal government was threatening to take away the mormons tax exempt status. One vision from god later, and black's can hold the priesthood. I haven't read the fine print to see if they are allowed in heaven. Mormons are famous for telling what they think you want to hear. (See Mitt Romney). Jim

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Response to heaven05 (Reply #58)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:23 PM

124. Thank you.

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Response to democrattotheend (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:02 PM

66. Romney Thanks For Giving Your Insight into how the Wealthy View the non-wealthy

Walter Lippmann said that public minds should be herded like cows which Romney endorses with his Romnesia and his view on the 47% tape that he liked the way his Chinese women worker slaves making $1.35/hr working 80 hours a week were grateful for their work.

And remember he had a whole room of like-minded millionaires that were supporting his views on the 47% tape. Plutocrats like Romney and the Koch Brothers truly believe they deserve everything and ordinary people deserve no more than cows get and these people fund the GOP.

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Response to democrattotheend (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:30 PM

73. If he's not a bigot, he's an enabler of bigoted politics

and that's worse than being personally bigoted.

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Response to Ken Burch (Reply #73)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:16 PM

90. That I can agree with

I just don't like to use the racist label lightly. It's a serious charge and I think it gets overused.

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Response to democrattotheend (Reply #90)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:20 AM

110. overused???

overused??? Go to utube and bring up Obama comments during the election season. See if you think the nword is overused in this country. See if dog whistle politics was not overused? There is a large group of RACISTS in this country and thank god I know where most are now because of this election and the color of our POTUS. This and a few other sites are the only savings grace for me in making the judgement that there still are reasonable, rational people out there with a different skin color than most minorities. Women of all racial persuasions saw mittshit for the person he is and that contributed in a large way toward the victory we had, so, when and if our group is overwhelmed with the racial hate out there in the land of the free and home of the brave I hope I'll be dead and gone. Mittshit tried to stir the melting pot to see if the "cream" would rise to the top, but this time the mix held. Next time? Who knows.

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Response to democrattotheend (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:03 PM

87. He's a Mormon who preached before 1978.

That made him a believer in the "curse of Cain" bullshit.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:55 PM

5. This tells us that Romney has not ability for self-reflection.

One of the main characteristic of a sociopath.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:55 PM

6. Arrogant loser never taking responsibility; upset that he didn't get "his turn" promised him by Rove

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:57 PM

7. Education and health - how vile to improve them

So it's unfair to promise to invest in education and wide-spread health? Compared to tax breaks for the already really wealthy? Old fashioned democracy at work, no wonder Obama won.

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Response to Cicada (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:02 PM

67. Are you trying to imply that all the billionaires who poured $$ into electing Romney

did so for any reason other than deep, altruistic and genuine concern for the fate of the Nation?

For shame!

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:57 PM

8. And That's why you lost.......

For repeating fox news and rush limbaugh.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:58 PM

10. Somebody call a wambulance!


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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:00 PM

11. He's going away so gracefully.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:31 PM

74. He IS going away...right?

Sometime soon would be nice.

Basically, Romney is the Mormon Thomas Dewey.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #11)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 07:47 AM

103. I thought we would never have to hear from him again.

Guess I was wrong. What a sore loser. And I mean LOSER.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:00 PM

12. It is what a politician is SUPPOSED to do...

Be attractive to his core constituency without screwing up the country which is what Obama did and did so proudly.

Much better than giving gifts of tax cuts to the rich and deregulation of the crooks as Romney's proposed gifts which end up hurting the country.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:01 PM

13. This old white guy got no gifts from Obama

except a brilliant president who will do right by the people.

And that old white guy (Romney) will never understand why I supported Obama. So long, you arrogant, self-centered prick. Enjoy your unemployment.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:02 PM

14. IOW, Pres. Obama appealed to the people that Romney didn't think worth talking to.

You know, that 47%.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:05 PM

17. umm that's 52% lol. mitt got stuck with the 47% nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #17)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:31 PM

75. LOL! You're right about that!

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:02 PM

15. OK Mitt, you can slither away for good now

That such a bald-faced liar could get within spitting distance of the White House is a goddamn disgrace. Everyone in this country who voted for this scumbag should just sign the secession petitions and leave us reasonable people to decide our own destiny.

I said for months he was a sociopath and this is just the icing on the cake. If you look at checklist for sociopathy, Mittens ticked off way too many boxes for my liking.

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Response to NICO9000 (Reply #15)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:17 PM

33. We all agree with you. It is alarming that the GOP,that used to be a fairly decent

political party, has sunk to such depths that they would nominate a bare-faced liar, greedy, ignorant low-life for the office of president.

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Response to lumpy (Reply #33)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:31 PM

93. That's a good description of bush, too

Though you would have to add a few more adjectives, like war Mongerer.

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Response to lumpy (Reply #33)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:26 AM

107. I'm not sure the GOP was ever "fairly decent"

at least not since Reconstruction.

Before the Bush's and Reagan you had Nixon, whose "Southern strategy" appealed directly to white racists, who used the IRS to harass political opponents, who prolonged the Vietnam war and invaded two other countries (Laos, Cambodia), who overthrew the democratically elected government of Chile, who started "the war on drugs," etc. etc.

Before Nixon we had Eisenhower, who was silent in the face of McCarthyism (Joseph McCarthy R-Wisconsin), who overthrew the democratically elected governments of Guatemala and Iran, leading to brutal dictatorships in both nations, planned the Bay of Pigs, hugely accelerated the arms race (it was only at the END of his term did he warn us about the military-industrial complex he did so much to create), and appointed a red-baiting sociopath (Richard Nixon) to be his vice president.

Before Eisenhower was Dewey, who ran campaigns in 1944 and 1948 that accused Democrats of trying to overthrow American democracy and replace it with communism--who in 1944 ran a campaign that accused FDR of wanting to establish a monarchy, criticised his war leadership, etc. Among the GOP's strongest supporters back then were folks like the Jew-baiting, race-hating Father Coughlin, the Rush Limbaugh of his time.

Before Dewey we had Harding-Coolidge-Hoover. Hoover was a fairly decent businessman who was clueless about dealing with the depression--but I'll admit he was a humanitarian (did great things relieving hunger in Europe post WWI). Coolidge made his reputation as a union busting pro-business hack ("The business of America is business"). Harding was so corrupt ("Teapot Dome") he would probably have been impeached if he hadn't died in office.

Even TR--who was progressive in some respects--was a believer in eugenics, imperialism and "the white man's burden" and waged a brutal counter-insurgency to keep control of the Philippines after we took that region from Spain.

Andrew Johnson WAS impeached--for defying progressive Republicans in Congress and pandering to the sensibilities of the southern racist oligarchy who launched the Civil War.

I'm not saying Democratic history was all roses--especially not the southern wing of the party up until the 1970s--but the GOP record for the most part is not what I would call "fairly decent." I WOULD be willing to say that until recently it had managed to keep its worst elements from completely dominating its establishment and national agenda, but that's about as far as I'd be willing to go.

I guess all things are relative. And so I would agree that, relatively speaking, this GOP is the worst it's been since, say, 1932.

PS: I left out Reagan and the Bushes, figuring their administrations were all recent enough not to need any elaboration here.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:05 PM

16. Obama had gifts that Romney didn't all right

ethics, honesty, loyalty, consistency, and likability.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:05 PM

18. Our gift was President Obama

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Response to Blue4Texas (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:18 PM

36. I like that. Truly a great gift.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:06 PM

19. Hey mitt

you lying sack of shit, just go fuck yourself!

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Response to lyingsackofmitt (Reply #19)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:28 AM

112. +1000

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:07 PM

20. It's my understanding that I now own 311 Dunemere in La Jolla!

It doesn't have a car elevator yet, but I think it will when I take possession

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:08 PM

21. I'm an old voter. I appreciated the "gift" of Obama using real world math in doing his budget.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:08 PM

22. Cry me a river... what a poor loser.

And of course the lies continue, he knows no other way to operate.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:10 PM

23. And what about the gifts he promised HIS base?

A penniless, powerless labor force?

Cue the DU "Cry Me A River" String Quartet!


rocktivity

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:11 PM

24. In 2000, Shrub promised every American $1700 in cash if they voted for him.

No doubt, Romney shit himself over that.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:11 PM

25. WHAT total BS! n/t

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:13 PM

26. "wooing specific interest groups"

Including one huge one that Mitt seemed to forget about completely: people who don't like shameless, flip-flopping liars. I hear there are a fair few of us out there.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:14 PM

27. How Does He Know How Big His

"Gifts" Are.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:14 PM

28. Yes we know Obama is Gifted. Next.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:16 PM

29. His Gift of Intelligence? Gift of Reason? Gift of Knowledge? Gift of Sanity? Perhaps he's right...


Those are the 'Gifts' that Obama has that Romney and Ryan SORELY lacked

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:16 PM

30. I received some great gifts from President Obama.......

1. He will be our President for the next four years and continue to get things done.
2. He beat you.

Oh and Mitt - I am not from the African American or Hispanic community and am definitely not a young person, but President Obama can woo me any time

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:17 PM

31. Romney promises $1 trillion in tax cuts to him and his base

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:17 PM

32. President Obama didn't give gifts....

he HAZ them. Gifts like intelligence, compassion, humanity to name a few. rMoney lacks those gifts, as we clearly saw. Buh bye, loser.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:17 PM

34. How are black and hispanic people "special interest groups"? But banks arent?

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Response to Lars77 (Reply #34)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:33 PM

44. Why do people continue to refer to black/hispanic/others as "special interest groups" ?

The only "special interest groups", I can think of, are the obscenely wealthy. Way past time to give up differentuating between citizens of the US.

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Response to lumpy (Reply #44)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:55 PM

61. Because that's the way he views folks demanding their rights

and freedoms from the WHITE power structure. Interesting that Mitt is mouthing O'Reilly's theories.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:18 PM

35. are these jerkoffs ever going to quit their whining?

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:19 PM

37. That Obama, what a cheater, he wooed the voters rather than the billionaires...

what is this country coming to when you can't even buy a simple presidential election because your opponent had convinced too many people to vote for him.


Lets face it, this Romney gut couldn't buy an erection, let alone an election.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:22 PM

38. The one person soley responsible for Mitt Romney's loss is

Mitt Romney himself. He was his own worst political enemy.

Sam

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Response to Samantha (Reply #38)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:25 PM

41. Not while I'm still alive, he isn't.

 

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:23 PM

39. Romney ...

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:24 PM

40. You ever get the feeling that Mitt Romney learned everything he knows

 

about African-Americans and Latinos from things like Birth of a Nation?

They're doubling down on the racism, the code language.

Mitt, McCain is still a bitter loser, hating the fact that he was bested by a black man. It's so unattractive when that happens.

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Response to Anthony McCarthy (Reply #40)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:37 PM

46. Code language= "Special interest groups"

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:27 PM

42. So Romney is trying to plant the "seed" that Obama BRIBBED his way back into office.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:31 PM

43. his loss to obama will haunt him for the rest of his life.......

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Response to madrchsod (Reply #43)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:41 PM

48. Poor little MittWitt



Cry yourself to sleep everynight.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:37 PM

45. NOBODY likes a sore loser, Mittens...

The majority of Americans didn't like you because of your lies and shit...

And NOW, even less Americans are gonna like you!

Shut the Fuck up and go away.

(...I'm predicting another new low for the Pukes and Baggers...RMoney is NOT going away...they will pony him out in front of the cameras at every chance, to criticize the President. Another new name for Mittens, No Shame Romney.)

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Response to SoapBox (Reply #45)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:44 PM

53. Good grief, I'll bet soar loser Romney cheats at checkers.

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Response to lumpy (Reply #53)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:22 PM

71. He cheats in family races...so why not checkers?

He probably cheated as far back as when he played GO FISH.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:40 PM

47. Still living in his 41% bubble

With the delusions of his supporters.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:42 PM

49. No cabinet post for you Mittens!

What a tool!! How about the "gifts" your Daddy gave you? You didnt have to work very hard like most of the "47%"

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:43 PM

50. Gift of gab, gift of brains, gift of charisma...

Those are Obama's gifts.

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Response to Xipe Totec (Reply #50)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:51 PM

120. beat me to it

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:43 PM

51. What a no-class jerk!

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:43 PM

52. Well

 

I didn't get my gift?

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:45 PM

54. Can't teach and old dog new tricks

He's basically repeating his slur of Obama voters as the 47%. He's basically saying Obama voters are takers not makers, people looking for hand-outs. What an out of touch jerk. So glad he was defeated. Can't think of a less worthy candidate. And I love the invincible blindness of him and his cronies not seeing it coming. Makes his defeat all the sweeter.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:48 PM

55. Go away Mitt we voted for you to go away

Why is he still talking?

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #55)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:01 PM

64. Amen. Mitt is a loser. So get lost.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:49 PM

56. And yet, Obama is graciously offering to meet with this nutball re: "the financial cliff"

That's both the blessing and the curse of the Democratic establishment mindset all wrapped up in one frustrating example...

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:50 PM

57. I think he means because 'Obama IS a GIFT to the nation' !!

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:54 PM

59. His religion is on the table

Take that magic underwear and shove it up your ass Mitt the Loser!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/11872356

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:55 PM

60. He's right.America needed help during a very tough time caused directly by the actions and inactions

of his party, and Obama saw to it that they were taken care of. Without that help, they might not have made it. He bitterly calls it "gifts" but what he's really saying is that his polices were not aimed at the new America, only directed at the old right whities.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:59 PM

62. It's True. So What?

The executive order to give status to "Dreamers" was aimed at the Hispanic community, and it worked.

Pell Grants and lower interest on student loans help middle-income young people. I'm okay with that.

Not sure what he think Obama did for our (black) community.

Romney can call it however he wants. The bottom line is that he lost. And that huge donations from fat cats Lost.

And that makes me very happy.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:00 PM

63. As opposed to the immunity gifts Romney was offering his indicted supporters?

Citizens United is a legal way for any rich person in trouble with the law to buy a pardon.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:01 PM

65. Nothing but Projection

"Gifts" are stock dividends that the rich receive just for sitting on their butts.

These assholes are motivated by the "what's in it for me", "least work for the most reward" mentality.

Obama voters just want a fair country where they have shot at success in exchange for their hard work.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:06 PM

68. Say What?


Gifts? You're the one receiving gifts, Romney, with your millions in wealth without paying taxes.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:12 PM

69. What a pathetic piece of shit.

Go, begone, and good riddance.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:13 PM

70. Ooooooooo no he didn't!!!!!!!!!

 

So he wasn't "wrong" as he claimed about his 47% remarks. Fall back douchebag!!! YOU LOST!!!

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:29 PM

72. In other words, "No fair...Obama actually REWARDED people for their votes...

...Democratic presidents aren't ALLOWED to do that...WAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!"

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:33 PM

76. IF ROMNEY

If Romney keeps talking, he'll eventually say something that's true. But not yet.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:38 PM

77. Well, yea, we aren't doing that one dollar, one vote thingy yet so actual people elected Obama.nm.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 08:05 PM

78. Joseph Smith can't get over his loss.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 08:06 PM

79. One last crap on the people on his way out.

"You won't have Nixon to kick around any more," but so much worse.

And make no mistake, the real insult here is aimed not at Obama at all, but rather at the people themselves.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 08:10 PM

80. I think Mitt overheard someone saying Obama won because of all the gaffes.

Go get your hearing tested, Mittens.

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Response to tanyev (Reply #80)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 08:20 PM

83. Now that might be true

But apparently the 47% wasn't a gaffe...it's what he truly believes.

For the record, I think Obama probably could have won even without Romney's gaffes, but I'm not 100% sure of that. Even though I think he deserved re-election, the narrative that took hold was that he didn't. I hate the way the post-election spin has been all about what Romney did wrong and not about the fact that maybe, just maybe, the majority of Americans thought the president deserved another four years.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 08:13 PM

81. More like crumbs..

compared to the $$$$$$$$$$$$ his billionaire buddies were spewing to sway the election.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 08:18 PM

82. Mitt lost because very few people like him

Most of his votes were from racists. A small percentage were part of the 1%. The rest were just plain stupid.

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Response to Thor_MN (Reply #82)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 08:25 PM

85. I wouldn't say most of his votes were from racists

That is a pretty extreme statement. I know several people at my school who voted for Romney and I don't consider any of them racist. Like it or not, some people do legitimately believe in unregulated markets and believe that the right to keep more of your paycheck is more important than maintaining a social safety net. Obviously, I believe in the social safety net or I wouldn't be here. But there are legitimate arguments on the other side and we don't do anyone any favors by writing off all or "most" of the people who don't agree with us as racist or stupid.

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Response to democrattotheend (Reply #85)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 08:36 PM

86. You have your acquaintances, I have mine.

Based on your anecdotal evidence, not much racism. Based on my anecdotal evidence, lots. Truth is in the middle of, course, so I'm willing to concede "Many of his votes"

Bottom line, not many voted for HIM, they voted against something else.

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Response to Thor_MN (Reply #86)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:20 PM

91. I definitely agree about Romney voters being more against Obama than for Romney

But I am not prepared to say that Obama's race was the reason most people opposed him. Some, sure, but many of them wouldn't have voted Democratic anyway.

Interestingly, in the 2008 exit poll, people who said the race of the candidate was a factor in their vote were actually more likely to have voted for Obama than those who said it was not a factor. Of course, people for whom it was a negative factor were probably less likely to say so, but it was surprising how many people said it was a positive factor.

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Response to democrattotheend (Reply #85)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:21 AM

113. with

friends like yours I don't need any enemies. The whole campaign...ohh never mind. Mittshit, Murdock, Akins, Walsh, lost for racist, sexist, anti-veteran remarks. Remember 47%. All or most who voted for mittshit were, to be nice about, intellectually challenged.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 08:21 PM

84. Pesky Democracy.

The majority voting in their best interests and all.

Who'd have thought it would come to that?


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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:09 PM

88. Tax Fraud

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:12 PM

89. Like Romney's policies weren't going to be the biggest GIFT the 1%'rs ever got.

In a Democracy 1% doesn't mean much though.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:21 PM

92. I totally agree.

Romney lost Bc of Obama's gift of loving all Americans, of fighting for a fair chance for everyone, of his ability to see beyond skin color, of forgiving those who hate him and especially of not lowering hmself to their juvenile level.
Apologies to those who texted similiar posts. Just had to make this point.

Edited to add: don't forget the gift so my daughter can go to college wo acquiring insurmountable debt she would never be able to pay off. And could I not go on and on and on.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:34 PM

94. Still stupid after all these years.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:50 PM

95. To Be Credible Romney Must Identify What Those "Gifts" Were

One guess would be the extension of low interest loans for college students. But those have been around for a long time. Another would be the executive order on part of the Dream Act but George W. Bush was also for that. Besides, a lot of Republicans have changed their tune on that since the election. Maybe it was bailing out the auto industry. But Romney claimed that Obama stole his plan. I'm looking for what those gifts are that Romney is so upset with but I'm coming up blank. The term that comes to mind to explain Romney here is "sore loser".

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Response to DallasNE (Reply #95)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:01 PM

96. In the full text of the article, he did identify student loans and other specific "gifts"

And for what it's worth, I would like to point out that grad students got no gifts. In fact, I got an unpleasant surprise this year when I looked at my student loans and discovered that the $8,500 subsidized Stafford loan had been completely eliminated for grad students.

Needless to say I still voted for Obama.

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Response to democrattotheend (Reply #96)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:43 PM

99. Loans with interest are the best kind of gifts. /nt

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Response to democrattotheend (Reply #96)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:23 AM

102. The NYT Only Allows 5 Free Views Per Month

And I didn't want to burn one of those on this because I could pretty much guess what he was talking about if he indeed listed the "gifts".

Turns out my anticipation was pretty darn good. And his points were pretty darn weak as he repeated his 47% argument. So much for learning lessons.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:39 PM

97. It just keeps getting better. stir it up some more. yes we get it. the GOP does not like people. onl

only money.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:42 PM

98. Cool we need more seats in 2014.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:53 PM

100. WHERE are my gifts? I got NONE!

ZERO gifts! And I voted for Obama! Total ripoff!

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Response to Momgonepostal (Reply #100)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:33 AM

101. Me neither. As a grad student, I had my "gifts" cut

when they eliminated the subsidized Stafford loans for grad students.

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Response to democrattotheend (Reply #101)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:39 AM

114. well

maybe you voted for the wrong person. I'm sure if mittshit had won, you and your friends would have got everything you desired.

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Response to heaven05 (Reply #114)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:55 PM

121. Obviously, I don't feel that way. If I did, I would have voted for Romney

But I certainly don't think he would have done a better job on the issue. Even if I did, I still would have voted for Obama. I don't vote solely on what the government does for me personally - that was the point I was trying to make.

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Response to Momgonepostal (Reply #100)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 08:20 AM

105. I Voted Obama Twice

and I have yet to see a gift. And I was originally a Hillary supporter who thinks NONE of them are anywhere near liberal enough. I would think I would get a gift just for voting this time around, since I wasn't going to vote at all until the "PA is in play" meme got going in the last couple weeks.

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Response to RobinA (Reply #105)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:10 AM

109. Thank you for voting.

I volunteered in PA, just to get voters like you to vote for Obama.

Please continue to vote. Never assume that your vote doesn't count. Even in a blue state, your vote adds to the popular vote. Furthermore, there may be congressional or local candidates who need your vote.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:03 AM

108. Personally, I found this even more offensive than the 47% comment.

The 47% comment was very revealing, but I didn't feel personally insulted by it because I pay income taxes. Moreover, the statement was obviously false: clearly, many people who don't pay income taxes vote Republican, and many people who vote Democratic pay income taxes.

The statement about gifts, on the other hand, I found extremely offensive. I volunteered for the Obama campaign. I made more than a thousand calls and knocked on more than 300 doors. I donated as much as I could afford, and I took an unpaid day to get out the vote on election day. I got no gifts in return, other than the pleasure of seeing the President re-elected, nor did I expect any. In fact, my husband and I together are earning enough this year to be in the income tax bracket that will have its tax rate increased. I find the suggestion that Obama won essentially by bribing people extremely insulting on a personal level.

If anything, Romney wooed his wealthy voters with promises of major tax breaks if he got elected. If anyone was offering "gifts", it was Romney.

I shudder to think that this guy could have been president today.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:22 AM

111. Facepalm.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:45 AM

115. It's so nice to see he's done an honest, thoughtful re-evaluation of his campaign/election results.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:10 PM

116. Kick (nt)

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:34 PM

117. Why aren't 20% across the board tax cuts...gifts to every tax payer?

Robme is a perfect case of projection. Make it an example in Psychology 101 text books. That will make him famous for years to come.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:42 PM

118. Because of Obama's Intellectual gifts along with a powerful moral imagination?

I can't say that I disagree with the Governor.

But if he's talking about civil rights, he's mistaken since they're not gifts. It's our birthright as Americans.

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Response to Politicub (Reply #118)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 01:22 PM

125. Agreed

Obama is a gifted politician...I will give him that.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:45 PM

119. The only gift I can think of

 

is the gift of a sane and responsible govt.

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:00 PM

122. It's never too early to start trying to nail down the racist vote for 2016!

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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 03:03 PM

123. So much for his gracious, concession speech (nt)


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Response to democrattotheend (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 01:53 PM

126. Stolen from facebook

5 Stages of Grief, Republican Style:
--1. Whining
--2. Signing up for secession
--3. Buying extra ammo
--4. Drinking Bud and flinging stuff
--5. Falling asleep watching Fox

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