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Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:00 PM

Obama considering John Kerry for job of defense secretary

Source: Washington Post

President Obama is considering asking Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) to serve as his next defense secretary, part of an extensive rearrangement of his national security team that will include a permanent replacement for former CIA director David H. Petraeus.

Although Kerry is thought to covet the job of secretary of state, senior administration officials familiar with transition planning said that nomination will almost certainly go to Susan E. Rice, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations.

John O. Brennan, Obama’s chief counterterrorism adviser, is a leading contender for the CIA job if he wants it, officials said. If Brennan goes ahead with his plan to leave government, Michael J. Morell, the agency’s acting director, is the prohibitive favorite to take over permanently. Officials cautioned that the White House discussions are still in the early phases and that no decisions have been made.

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-considers-john-kerry-for-job-of-defense-secretary/2012/11/12/8a0e973a-2d02-11e2-a99d-5c4203af7b7a_story.html

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Reply Obama considering John Kerry for job of defense secretary (Original post)
NYC Liberal Nov 2012 OP
mac56 Nov 2012 #1
NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #3
liberalmuse Nov 2012 #5
valerief Nov 2012 #26
Tx4obama Nov 2012 #29
Fearless Nov 2012 #43
Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #2
acamp Nov 2012 #6
valerief Nov 2012 #27
TomCADem Nov 2012 #42
Crowman1979 Nov 2012 #4
MH1 Nov 2012 #12
LeftInTX Nov 2012 #17
amandabeech Nov 2012 #39
Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2012 #32
Comrade_McKenzie Nov 2012 #7
Mr_King Nov 2012 #22
Kingofalldems Nov 2012 #8
Bossy Monkey Nov 2012 #9
Panasonic Nov 2012 #10
WheelWalker Nov 2012 #14
The Old Creak Nov 2012 #11
rury Nov 2012 #13
WheelWalker Nov 2012 #15
adieu Nov 2012 #20
awoke_in_2003 Nov 2012 #24
pscot Nov 2012 #25
eringer Nov 2012 #16
madrchsod Nov 2012 #23
Iggy Nov 2012 #18
adieu Nov 2012 #19
Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2012 #31
Paulie Nov 2012 #34
Joey Liberal Nov 2012 #21
Tx4obama Nov 2012 #28
groundloop Nov 2012 #36
El Supremo Nov 2012 #30
zonkers Nov 2012 #33
wordpix Nov 2012 #35
JI7 Nov 2012 #37
davidpdx Nov 2012 #38
politicasista Nov 2012 #40
woo me with science Nov 2012 #41
karynnj Nov 2012 #44
BluegrassDem Nov 2012 #45
Ken Burch Nov 2012 #46
Franker65 Nov 2012 #47

Response to NYC Liberal (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:03 PM

1. Then how would that work?

Would there be a special election for his Senate seat? Or would the Governor appoint someone?

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Response to mac56 (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:04 PM

3. I think MA would have a special election

Someone might know differently but that's what a family member who lives in Boston told me.

I really don't want to see Scott Brown in another election there.

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Response to mac56 (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:05 PM

5. It means Scott Brown would be back.

He's all queued in and ready to go. Noooo!

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Response to liberalmuse (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:18 PM

26. Jesus H. I hope not. We have enough shirtless FBI agents to deal with.

We don't need shirtless senators on top of that.

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Response to mac56 (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:24 AM

43. I belive there would be a temporary governor's appointment if Kerry were to leave immediately

And then a special election would take place. That's what happened with Kennedy's seat.

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Response to NYC Liberal (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:04 PM

2. Bad move

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:06 PM

6. Scott Brown would run for the seat.

That's the talk here in MA, anyway.

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Response to acamp (Reply #6)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:19 PM

27. Brown SUCKS. All Republicans SUCK. nt

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:18 AM

42. Ditto - Why hand the seat to Scott Brown?

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Response to NYC Liberal (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:05 PM

4. Oh man! The RW-nutjobs are gonna throw a s***fit over that one.

They'll be screaming WINTER SOLDIER! WINTER SOLDIER! Till they are blue in the face.

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Response to Crowman1979 (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:09 PM

12. I agree, and I think they might try to derail it.

I like and respect John Kerry, especially for what he did when he came back from Vietnam. But a large swath of people on the right don't understand it and consequently can't stomach it.

I think he would be a great Secretary of Defense but at the same time I think it would be spitting in the eye of a lot of people. This isn't a battle we should pick, IMHO.

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Response to MH1 (Reply #12)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:20 PM

17. I agree

I also respect John Kerry, but feel that too many career military types will be upset.

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Response to LeftInTX (Reply #17)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:34 PM

39. That's what I think.

Kerry might not get the cooperation that he would need managing such a monstrous bureaucracy.

Kerry would be better at state.

Susan Rice was going with the video story about Benghazi several days after everyone else was. That's a disqualifier for me.

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Response to MH1 (Reply #12)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:59 PM

32. The Senate usually fast tracks their own thru confirmation but this could still get messy.

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Response to NYC Liberal (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:06 PM

7. Hopefully OFA can get someone in his Senate seat. nt

 

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Reply #7)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:59 PM

22. Hopefully..

Governor Deval Patrick would run for the senate seat. That's what Joe Manchin did in West Virginia when Senator Byrd died. Patrick could appoint a place holder like he did when Teddy died and then run for the office himself in a special election.

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Response to NYC Liberal (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:06 PM

8. Love it, and the freepers will go berserk

Swift Boating will commence again, only this time it won't work,

Only downside is defending his seat.

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Response to NYC Liberal (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:06 PM

9. Only if he appoints Scott Brown as ambassador to Afghanistan, say, first. n/t

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Response to Bossy Monkey (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:08 PM

10. Fugg him.l

 

I say appoint him to a permanent ambassadorship in the remotest part of Outer Mongolia, and not be let back in the United States.

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Response to Bossy Monkey (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:15 PM

14. Dark side of the Moon, maybe.

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Response to NYC Liberal (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:09 PM

11. Fuck the freebers

State, maybe, Defense..............really?

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Response to NYC Liberal (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:10 PM

13. I hope not

I don't want any Democrats to leave the Senate.

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Response to rury (Reply #13)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:17 PM

15. +1, not minus one.

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Response to rury (Reply #13)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:43 PM

20. I'm quite sure that

Any special campaign for Kerry's seat will result in a D senator. It would be nice to have Kerry stay there so that MA doesn't have two freshmen senators. When is Kerry's term up? If he is running in 2014, maybe he can be SoD or SoS in 2014 and have someone else run in his spot.

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Response to adieu (Reply #20)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:14 PM

24. You remember what happened....

when Kennedy's seat opened up, right?

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Response to adieu (Reply #20)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:16 PM

25. Yes. That worked so well when Teddy died

This just isn't very smart politics.

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Response to NYC Liberal (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:17 PM

16. The logical (and best) choice is John Hamre

He was on Obama's transition team and has been OSD Comptroller and DepSecDef. He knows the building well.
Here is his bio:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hamre

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Response to eringer (Reply #16)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:14 PM

23. he certainly has the background to be the sec of defense

he would be an excellent choice

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Response to NYC Liberal (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:36 PM

18. NOT Sure How This Appointment Works

 

with the upcoming hysteria/carpet chewing by the war-profiteers over the potential miniscule cut to the defense budget; "ohhh, this is horrid, our nation's defense is utterly at risk now... Islamic drug hordes are poised at our border with Mexico... ready to invade and take over Tucson if we cut defense this 'severely'".

What a load... I just don't see Kerry as the guy able to put out this obvious high level of BOGUS-ness.



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Response to NYC Liberal (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:40 PM

19. Leon Panetta

the current Secretary of Defense might be a good fit for CIA head. Not sure Kerry would be a good SoD. I'd like to see a good finance guy there to start the work of paring the bloated pig of all the unnecessary pork.

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Response to adieu (Reply #19)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:56 PM

31. Wasn't CIA his previous post?

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Response to Gidney N Cloyd (Reply #31)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:08 PM

34. Yes he was.

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Response to NYC Liberal (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:53 PM

21. Bad Move

We need Kerry in the Senate.

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Response to NYC Liberal (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:47 PM

28. This is not a fact. These are RUMORS. Not confirmed. Even the source hasn't been confirmed!


Someone is only 'floating balloons'

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #28)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:16 PM

36. AND.... would John Kerry even accept that job?

It's widely acknowledged that John Kerry would like the Secretary of State position, and probably would take that if offered. But nobody had hinted at whether or not he'd take the Defense job.

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Response to NYC Liberal (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:56 PM

30. No. Secretary of State maybe when Hillary steps down but...

not Secretary of Defense.

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Response to NYC Liberal (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:59 PM

33. Take that, swiftboaters!

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Response to NYC Liberal (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:12 PM

35. I don't like this move on a number of levels

First, Kerry has been the face of doves, not hawks---can he stand up to the military when he doesn't have much of a military background? Will they work with him or try to take him down?

Confirmation could end up a big fight, too.

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Response to wordpix (Reply #35)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:16 PM

37. Kerry doesn't have much of a military background ?

but i agree about others who would object. people don't get over things and they still hate him for telling the truth about what was happening in Vietnam.

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Response to NYC Liberal (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:27 PM

38. I agree that these are just rumors

I would rather see Kerry stay in the Senate. Any chance given to Scott Brown to slime his way back into the Senate would be a travesty.

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Response to NYC Liberal (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:12 AM

40. Interesting n/t

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Response to NYC Liberal (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:15 AM

41. The biggest reason to oppose this:

It weakens the progressive majority in the Senate, something Obama also did with appointments in 2008.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021803895

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Response to NYC Liberal (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:00 AM

44. For what is it worth, the same WP just a few day's ago, said Kerry was a no go because Reid

wants him in the Senate. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/11/09/harry-reid-could-keep-john-kerry-from-secretary-of-state/

There are so many reasons why this seems more an effort to argue Rice for SOS.

1) Many articles - including the BG - mentioned that there were 2 "jobs Kerry always wanted" and they did not feel the need to explain that they were President and SOS. (In fact, Kerry himself has spoken of a third job that he loves - that is being Senator and Chair of SFRC.)

2) There are many who might feel that Obama is attacking the military by choosing someone who many on the right believe the smear that he attacked soldiers in 1971, though nothing is further from the truth.

3) If Obama has an ambiguous agenda of changing the military and ending the wars, he could best do this with a SOD who the military embraces wholeheartedly.

This may suggest that, in fact, Reid is NOT speaking against it. This makes sense given the Senate count and the likelihood that a great MA candidate could run against Brown's record - that he refused to speak about in the race with Warren.

Note that this is also written with the hypothesis that Susan Rice will be picked listed as a foregone conclusion. It may well be that Obama (or others on the foreign policy team) prefer Rice. It might even be that they (not Obama) realize that Kerry will be a bigger force on the team and their vested interest is for a weaker member of the team.

I think taking any cabinet position has one down side for Kerry. I think he likes things like town halls, meeting people and the political life. However, even as a young man he was fascinated by diplomacy and has demonstrated that he is very good at it. The NYT magazine last fall had a long article on Kerry that shows his genuine, innate diplomatic skill. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/17/magazine/john-kerry-our-man-in-kabul.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 Kerry has been honest in saying that he did want to be SOS in 2008 when he could have denied it. I think Susan Rice would be a good choice, but I hate that many people pushing her have tried to make the argument by suggesting that the choice of Kerry is a bad one.

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Response to NYC Liberal (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:23 AM

45. I think Deval Patrick would appoint a caretaker, then run in the special election

I suppose that's why he had a dinner with Obama last Friday.

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Response to NYC Liberal (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:28 AM

46. Kerry would be great...but the Swift Boaters would come roaring back to stop him.

Is he worth putting the party and the whole damn country through THAT again?

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Response to NYC Liberal (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 06:45 AM

47. Don't think he's suited to be defense secretary

I say state or leave him in the senate.

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