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Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:54 PM

Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. could serve jail time in plea deal

Source: Salon


The Illinois Congressman is reportedly negotiating with prosecutors over an alleged misuse of campaign funds

BY JILLIAN RAYFIELD

Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr., D-Ill., is reportedly in the midst of negotiating a plea deal that may include jail time over his alleged misuse of campaign funds.

From the Chicago Sun-Times:

“As part of the deal being negotiated by former U.S. Attorney Dan Webb, Jackson would resign his post citing health reasons, plead guilty to misusing campaign funds, repay the campaign funds used illegally and he would possibly serve time in prison, according to the report.”


Jackson is accused of allegedly using those funds to redecorate his home, and reportedly to buy a $40,000 Rolex for a female friend. “No one has pled guilty, but plea discussions are ongoing,” a source told the Sun-Times’ Michael Sneed.

Jackson, who won reelection to his House seat on Tuesday, has recently spent time in the Mayo Clinic to be treated for depression bipolar disorder.

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Read more: http://www.salon.com/2012/11/11/rep_jesse_jackson_jr_could_serve_jail_time_in_plea_deal/

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Reply Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. could serve jail time in plea deal (Original post)
DonViejo Nov 2012 OP
Beacool Nov 2012 #1
harmonicon Nov 2012 #2
Beacool Nov 2012 #3
harmonicon Nov 2012 #4
Beacool Nov 2012 #5
Faryn Balyncd Nov 2012 #12
Beacool Nov 2012 #16
harmonicon Nov 2012 #13
Beacool Nov 2012 #15
Mr.Bill Nov 2012 #18
former9thward Nov 2012 #19
harmonicon Nov 2012 #20
former9thward Nov 2012 #22
harmonicon Nov 2012 #23
former9thward Nov 2012 #25
harmonicon Nov 2012 #27
mopinko Nov 2012 #38
Freddie Stubbs Nov 2012 #44
alp227 Nov 2012 #30
harmonicon Nov 2012 #31
Freddie Stubbs Nov 2012 #45
Ter Nov 2012 #32
merrily Nov 2012 #35
thesquanderer Nov 2012 #33
harmonicon Nov 2012 #34
thesquanderer Nov 2012 #40
harmonicon Nov 2012 #41
thesquanderer Nov 2012 #42
harmonicon Nov 2012 #43
Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #6
SoapBox Nov 2012 #7
NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #8
underthematrix Nov 2012 #9
NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #11
Ikonoklast Nov 2012 #24
lalalu Nov 2012 #28
merrily Nov 2012 #36
cheriemedium59 Nov 2012 #14
underthematrix Nov 2012 #10
Freddie Stubbs Nov 2012 #17
Shankapotomus Nov 2012 #21
Beakybird Nov 2012 #26
murielm99 Nov 2012 #29
merrily Nov 2012 #37
AngryAmish Nov 2012 #39

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:24 PM

1. And they still reelected him.

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Response to Beacool (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:31 PM

2. So, they should have voted for a Republican?

Someone else on the ballot? Has he not adequately represented his constituents?

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Response to harmonicon (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:34 PM

3. He should have removed himself from the ballot.

He should have done the right thing and allowed the party to come up with another candidate. I haven't liked Jackson Jr. since 2008. What goes around, comes around.

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Response to Beacool (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:39 PM

4. Why criticize the voters for that?

I don't know much about the guy, but he's always seemed ok to me. If he's dirty, let the law take care of it. Unless that happens, I don't see what the problem is.

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Response to harmonicon (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 04:44 PM

5. Read below

"Illinoispaytoplay.com has learned that a second person with knowledge of Jesse Jackson Jr's attempted purchase of a senate seat may be prepared to offer testimony to the U.S House of Representatives Committee on Ethics that person or persons representing Illinois Congressman Jesse Jackson, Jr. approached Blagojevich offering to render the Governor “substantial financial considerations” in exchange for Blagojevich appointing Jackson to the U.S. Senate seat about to be vacated by then President-elect Barack Obama."

http://illinoispaytoplay.com/2012/11/02/house-iinvestigation-of-jesse-jackson-jr-may-widen/

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Response to Beacool (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:40 PM

12. Has the attempted purchase of a Senate appointment been the real reason for his hospitalization?



Has the motivation for publicly seeking treatment for depression, and his disappearance from Congress, been to save his skin?

It sounds like a $40K Rolex is a minor diversion.

And that by no resigning and allowing a Democrat not involved in an attempt to buy a Senate appointment, that Republicans have been handed a huge gift.





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Response to Faryn Balyncd (Reply #12)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:41 PM

16. I don't think that Jackson has clean hands politically speaking.

I'm not saying that he's faking his illness, just that there has been a lot trickling bits of info. coming out ever since he was one of the people who was mentioned as having been interested in Blago's offer of payment for Obama's former senate seat.

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Response to Beacool (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:03 PM

13. Anonymous accusations aren't fact. (nt)

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Response to harmonicon (Reply #13)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:35 PM

15. There was a lot more.

That's just the article I found in a hurry, there are more.

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Response to Beacool (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:03 PM

18. This is Illinois, after all.

I think the governor gets to sell the seat.

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Response to harmonicon (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:03 PM

19. Jackson should have resigned before the Democratic primary.

The district (IL-2) is 90 percent Dem and a Rep will never be elected there. Jackson has been AWOL for more than 6 months. Maybe you define that as representing his constituents but few do. This did not happen over night. He has been investigated over various things, including the Blago affair, for years now.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #19)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:14 PM

20. That's irrelevant to the post I was responding to. (nt)

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Response to harmonicon (Reply #20)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:19 PM

22. No it is not.

You act like these revelations came out of nowhere and the voters had no choice.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #22)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:24 PM

23. So you think they should have voted for someone else on the ballot? (nt)

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Response to harmonicon (Reply #23)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:29 PM

25. I already said what should have happened.

See posts upthread. This is on Jackson not the voters despite your attempts to blame the victims here.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #25)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:45 PM

27. I have.

I don't see a reason to criticize people voting for him in the general election in any of this. That's what I responded to. If you have something to say to that, please say it. Otherwise, I don't see how this discussion is relevant to the post that brought me into it.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #19)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:42 PM

38. i'm very angry at him for this myself.

or at least resigned before the final day to replace a candidate, and let the party put someone else up.
the whole thing stinks to high heaven.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #19)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:22 PM

44. That would be the actions of a reasonable, unselfish person

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Response to harmonicon (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:38 AM

30. Marcus Lewis.

Also a black American, Lewis is a farmer and mail carrier. He ran in JJJ's district as an independent progressive a la Bernie Sanders. Lewis suggested that had JJJ done the plea deal BEFORE the elections Lewis would have won. WLS-TV summarizes his views in questionnaire format:


Does the country need immigration reform? If so, what are your plans?

I support the "DREAM ACT."


Can the budget deficit be controlled only by spending cuts or does the federal government need to raise more revenue? If you favor more revenue, should there be a general tax hike?

I advocate both spending cuts and raising more revenue. We have been living a very unrealistic mindset when it comes to the nation's fiscal house. I support cutting Defense spending and increasing tax rates on the Top 2% of wage earners including tax hikes on income through dividends as in people like Mitt Romney that makes money on money and not through wages. We cannot sustain this type of 'Top Heavy' benefits for the extremely wealthy when all they are doing is 'gaming' the system to the detriment to the bottom 99%. Case in point, a honeybee extracts. Nectar from a flower but unknowingly pollinates the flower so there will be a flower to extract from next year.


Do you believe there is global warming? If so, is any of it man made and can we do anything about it?

Yes, I believe there is global warming. It is all man made and those in the know, confirms it as so. It does not take a genius to see the world is hotter than it was decades before. Just look at the satellite views of Greenland ice cap in June of 2012 and it has "completely" melted in July 2012. We need honesty & candor on these subjects and not leaving spaces for denials because of it will affect business' bottom line. If we keep up this charade, only our children and our children's children will suffer because of cowardice thinking. We can find the solutions to our problems if statesman take the reins and lay aside foolish thinking we can be a greater nation for it.

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Response to alp227 (Reply #30)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 02:18 AM

31. But would have/should have doesn't change with what voters were faced with.

If this guy is a good candidate for the job, I hope he throws his hat into the ring again. Maybe he'll have better luck next time.

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Response to alp227 (Reply #30)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:24 PM

45. The voters knew what they were getting

Representative Jackson's behavior was hardly a secret to voters.

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Response to harmonicon (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:25 AM

32. Let's just say he should have gotten zero votes

 

A lot of Republicans didn't vote for Murdock in super conservative Indiana because of his ridiculous rape comments. We should do the same with our nuts and crooks.

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Response to Ter (Reply #32)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:11 PM

35. The Mourdock-Donnelly race was very close before Mourdock made the rape remarks.

Supposedly, the Brown Warren race was very close, too.

Both Warren and Donnelly won by similar margins--and both are pro life candidates, though Donnelly does make an exception for rape and did not put his foot in his mouth spectacularly.

So, I don't know if you can imbue Indiana Republicans with virtue because Mourdock lost. And, you don't know if he lost because of Republicans. It could have been Democrats with good turn out and independents who defeated him.

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Response to harmonicon (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 10:48 AM

33. He's been on medical leave of absence since June, I believe

to answer your question, "Has he not adequately represented his constituents?" - hard to represent them, when you're not there.

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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #33)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:49 AM

34. That's nice.

I guess you don't know anyone who's ever been sick. If you do, I hope you were ok with it if they were fired for being sick.

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Response to harmonicon (Reply #34)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:01 PM

40. I wasn't making a judgment.

I was just answering the question of how well he has served his constituents.

Though also, since you bring it up, it's not the same as talking about being fired for being sick. First, the job is only for a two year "contract" to begin with. If someone misses the last 6 months of a 2 year job for illness, no matter how compassionate you are, do you think he'd be the best choice to rehire for another two years? Second, on a regular job, if someone is out on an extended illness, the employer can bring in a sub (even while continuing to pay the original worker) so the work still gets done. Who is the sub doing Jackson's work, working with the other house members, introducing/sponsoring bills, and casting votes for his district?

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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #40)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 02:36 PM

41. I would love to see a list of bills that would have gone another way had Jackson been present...

to vote on them.

I'm not making a judgement about Jackson either way here, but I am sick and tired of seeing people criticize voters for voting for the representation THEY want in congress.

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Response to harmonicon (Reply #41)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 02:55 PM

42. a hard list to compile

because an effective representative can work to make a bill better, or to persuade others to vote his way. That is, a representative's effectiveness can't simply be measured by looking at how much impact his own particular votes had or whether he was ever personally a tie-breaker.

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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #42)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 04:18 PM

43. Yep.

So, how about you let his constituents decide if he's a good representative?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:01 PM

6. He should also have to pay any costs for a special election if one is needed

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:09 PM

7. I'll second that motion.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:20 PM

8. A $40,000 watch!? What the fuck does it DO?

For that price, it'd better make dinner and do the laundry.

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Response to NYC Liberal (Reply #8)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:23 PM

9. It's a leg spreader

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Response to underthematrix (Reply #9)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:33 PM

11. I hope it was worth the prison time!

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Response to underthematrix (Reply #9)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:28 PM

24. Damn, that must be one huge watch.

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Response to underthematrix (Reply #9)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:29 PM

28. LOL

 

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Response to underthematrix (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:13 PM

36. Because women do it for men's watches?

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Response to NYC Liberal (Reply #8)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:23 PM

14. Holy Crap!

I don't care what party he is in, he must go! Terrible behavior lacking integrity. Sounds like he is hiding his guilt behind a diagnosis of depression/bi-polar. But really he is just a self-centered thief.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 05:24 PM

10. I'm trying to understand why

Jesse Jackson would destroy his father's legacy like that.

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Response to underthematrix (Reply #10)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:59 PM

17. Where do you think he got the idea from?

Anyone remember Karin Stanford?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:16 PM

21. I haven't trusted his father since

he was caught making that crack about Obama on camera and now I have serious doubts about the son. I wish them well, hope the son gets help but I would prefer if neither one of them continued to be involved in politics. There are many other African Americans in politics serving with distinction, honor and integrity now.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:33 PM

26. Maybe I'm hypocritical

I also suspect that Jackson JR went into Mayo Clinic to get sympathy from the Feds. Or maybe he's addicted to mayo.

Whenever a Republican congressman or woman gets caught doing something really immoral, I can't believe it when the constituents send the loser back to Washington.

But when it's us Democrats doing it, I kind of figure that it's protecting the seat from the Republicans.

In this case, I guess it was better to elect him knowing he's going to resign after the election, and the Democratic Governor can replace him.

I also have seen a lot of evidence aired in the media that he was interested in buying Obama's senate seat. If this is true, he's partly responsible for the seat going red in the last election.

I also think that both son and father should stay out of politics.

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Response to Beakybird (Reply #26)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:34 AM

29. The governor does not get to replace him.

There has to be a special election.

I think he may deal with his legal problems and his mental health problems and end up back in politics. He is innocent until proven guilty. And if he is guilty of something, this is Illinois. He would not be the first to make a comeback.

His wife is still someone to be reckoned with in Illinois politics. She is powerful.

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Response to Beakybird (Reply #26)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:19 PM

37. I have no comment on JJ, Jr. However, your comment is puzzling.


Whenever a Republican congressman or woman gets caught doing something really immoral, I can't believe it when the constituents send the loser back to Washington.

But when it's us Democrats doing it, I kind of figure that it's protecting the seat from the Republicans.


I don't know anyone else's motives. I consider myself fortunate when I know my own motives for certain.

That said, what do you reckon is the motive when Republicans do it?

And why would you assume that Republicans have different motives in voting for Republican candidates than Democrats have when they vote for Republican candidates.

I am not challenging your conclusions in any way. I am just trying to understand what you are saying.

(Edited to remove unintended bolding.)

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:50 PM

39. They need a strong, experienced hand in that congressional seat with seniority.

In my mind there is only one candidate that can fairly represent the voters in that district.

The previous congressman, Mel Reynolds, did time for screwing around with an underaged girl. Does anyone remember "Did I win the Lotto?"

But there a man, a legend of Illinois politics, who served that district well for many, many years. He has more than a decade in seniority, allowing better service for his constituents.

Time is now for Gus Savage.

Gus Savage now!


GUS SAVAGE FOREVER!!

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