Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:17 PM

Bozita (26,949 posts)

Vatican digs in after gay marriage advances

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November 10, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Vatican digs in after gay marriage advances
By Associated Press

Vatican City — The Vatican is digging in after gay marriage initiatives scored big wins this week in the U.S. and Europe, vowing to never stop insisting that marriage can only be between a man and a woman.

In a front-page article in Saturday's Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano, the Holy See sought to frame itself as the lone voice of courage in opposing initiatives to give same-sex couples legal recognition. In a separate Vatican Radio editorial, the pope's spokesman asked sarcastically why gay marriage proponents don't now push for legal recognition for polygamous couples as well.

Catholic teaching holds that homosexuals should be respected and treated with dignity but that homosexual acts are "intrinsically disordered." The Vatican also opposes same-sex marriage, insisting on the sanctity of marriage between a man and woman as the foundation for society.

The Vatican's anti-gay marriage media blitz came after three U.S. states approved same-sex marriage by popular vote in the election that returned Barack Obama to the U.S. presidency, Spain upheld its gay marriage law, and France pushed ahead with legislation that could see gay marriage legalized early next year.

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57 replies	Author	Time	Post
Vatican digs in after gay marriage advances (Original post)	Bozita	Nov 2012	OP
That's fine, The Catholic Church doesn't have to marry gay people but..........	W T F	Nov 2012	#1
That's pretty much the size of it	Blasphemer	Nov 2012	#21
Firstly, they shouldn't be able to perform legal marriages.	olegramps	Nov 2012	#42
Agreed	Blasphemer	Nov 2012	#51
They have every right to tell	polmaven	Nov 2012	#2
But to them, the only true religion is Catholicism.	defacto7	Nov 2012	#5
Establishment Clause	DallasNE	Nov 2012	#39
With Enemies Like This We are SURE to Have Marriage Equality	fightthegoodfightnow	Nov 2012	#3
Wait until child mistreatment gets real attention. Oh the humanity!	Gregorian	Nov 2012	#4
50% of American Catholics voted for Obama. That's a much higher percent than among Protestants.	yardwork	Nov 2012	#6
My 86 yr old Catholic father voted twice now for Obama. He has	glinda	Nov 2012	#25
Does a tree falling in the woods make any sound?	Fearless	Nov 2012	#7
Actually, does a tree falling into the church make any sound?	Panasonic	Nov 2012	#46
Perhaps the Catholic Church should look at.....	blue sky at night	Nov 2012	#8
that is preying	Angry Dragon	Nov 2012	#53
You are NEVER getting your empire back.	Dawson Leery	Nov 2012	#9
I hope the DUer who first said this won't mind my repeating it...	FiveGoodMen	Nov 2012	#10
Hey Vatican pervs...	SoapBox	Nov 2012	#17
We have diplomatic relations with the Vatican. Let's not.	byeya	Nov 2012	#11
Is there any wonder why the church is losing the younger generation.	sarcasmo	Nov 2012	#12
well when it comes to the Church	azurnoir	Nov 2012	#13
Never take romance advice from child rapists--or child rapist enablers. nt	valerief	Nov 2012	#14
And this applies to secular law how?	krispos42	Nov 2012	#15
Hey pointy hatted, Gucci shoe, old white guys...	SoapBox	Nov 2012	#16
Then why did God allow the same sexes to like each other - Just to piss off the pope? n/t	socialindependocrat	Nov 2012	#18
The fact of the matter is that many priests are homosexuals. This was revealed in several studies.	olegramps	Nov 2012	#43
Job Ad: Wanted, young males - must be kind, loving, sensative and like working with people	socialindependocrat	Nov 2012	#48
The polygamous statement	Why Syzygy	Nov 2012	#19
1. True, those of us advocating for same-sex marriage equality will let polygamy advocates	MNBrewer	Nov 2012	#20
Even the Bible	Why Syzygy	Nov 2012	#22
Have they admitted they were wrong yet on the whole "sun revolves around the earth" brouhaha?	ruggerson	Nov 2012	#23
Yes, in 1992! but - there's a splinter group that wants to revisit this topic	LiberalElite	Nov 2012	#49
The Only Smart Thing Earl Butz ever said	Wolf Frankula	Nov 2012	#24
FU Pope	Politicalboi	Nov 2012	#26
Hello to the Vatican from Washington state!!!	barnabas63	Nov 2012	#27
Those of us who support equal rights	cloudbase	Nov 2012	#28
Separation of Church and State it IS	Blue4Texas	Nov 2012	#29
They need to openly acknowledge the sexuality of priests	undeterred	Nov 2012	#30
Society must keep them out of the temporal realm.	David__77	Nov 2012	#31
Keep it up Ratzinger!	eringer	Nov 2012	#32
maybe the Catholic church should pay more attention to all of their pedophile priests	olddad56	Nov 2012	#33
Jesus INCLUDED everyone, the prositutes, the beggars, the tax collectors	Dont call me Shirley	Nov 2012	#34
Go fuck yourselves, you bunch of child molestors.	Odin2005	Nov 2012	#35
Their relivance is nonexistent...	and-justice-for-all	Nov 2012	#36
Why do we tolerate another sovereign state meddling in our country?	AtheistCrusader	Nov 2012	#37
For starters, bishops and priests need to register as agents of a foreign country	byeya	Nov 2012	#41
This is one key reason I am no longer a Catholic nor will ever be one again	Nika	Nov 2012	#38
Looks like the rank-and-file Catholics	Mc Mike	Nov 2012	#40
Keep marching toward irrelevance, Vatican.	Sheldon Cooper	Nov 2012	#44
Know thine enemy	libodem	Nov 2012	#45
Hatred is "intrinsically disordered"	toby jo	Nov 2012	#47
"...the lone voice of courage..."	Raster	Nov 2012	#50
Hey I think it is great that a bunch of men that don't marry	Angry Dragon	Nov 2012	#52
I read the subject and worried they were going to send troops	Kennah	Nov 2012	#54
The effects of gay marijuana are fucking unreal. Can't believe the shit I read on DU.	Kennah	Nov 2012	#55
Letter from a Long-Lapsed Catholic	Bragi	Nov 2012	#56
This generation of Vatican officials does not speak for future generations	Democat	Nov 2012	#57

Response to Bozita (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:24 PM

W T F (535 posts)

1. That's fine, The Catholic Church doesn't have to marry gay people but..........

The States have a mandate from voters to recognize that two people can jointly own property. This is a matter that does not concern the Church and they should stay out of it..........BTW, Pedophiles should be prosecuted and not protected by the Church.

Vatican digs in after gay marriage advances

1. That's fine, The Catholic Church doesn't have to marry gay people but..........

21. That's pretty much the size of it

42. Firstly, they shouldn't be able to perform legal marriages.

51. Agreed

2. They have every right to tell

5. But to them, the only true religion is Catholicism.

39. Establishment Clause

3. With Enemies Like This We are SURE to Have Marriage Equality

4. Wait until child mistreatment gets real attention. Oh the humanity!

6. 50% of American Catholics voted for Obama. That's a much higher percent than among Protestants.

25. My 86 yr old Catholic father voted twice now for Obama. He has

7. Does a tree falling in the woods make any sound?

46. Actually, does a tree falling into the church make any sound?

8. Perhaps the Catholic Church should look at.....

53. that is preying

9. You are NEVER getting your empire back.

10. I hope the DUer who first said this won't mind my repeating it...

17. Hey Vatican pervs...

11. We have diplomatic relations with the Vatican. Let's not.

12. Is there any wonder why the church is losing the younger generation.

13. well when it comes to the Church

14. Never take romance advice from child rapists--or child rapist enablers. nt

15. And this applies to secular law how?

16. Hey pointy hatted, Gucci shoe, old white guys...

18. Then why did God allow the same sexes to like each other - Just to piss off the pope? n/t

43. The fact of the matter is that many priests are homosexuals. This was revealed in several studies.

48. Job Ad: Wanted, young males - must be kind, loving, sensative and like working with people

19. The polygamous statement

20. 1. True, those of us advocating for same-sex marriage equality will let polygamy advocates

22. Even the Bible

23. Have they admitted they were wrong yet on the whole "sun revolves around the earth" brouhaha?

49. Yes, in 1992! but - there's a splinter group that wants to revisit this topic

24. The Only Smart Thing Earl Butz ever said

26. FU Pope

27. Hello to the Vatican from Washington state!!!

28. Those of us who support equal rights

29. Separation of Church and State it IS

30. They need to openly acknowledge the sexuality of priests

31. Society must keep them out of the temporal realm.

32. Keep it up Ratzinger!

33. maybe the Catholic church should pay more attention to all of their pedophile priests

34. Jesus INCLUDED everyone, the prositutes, the beggars, the tax collectors

35. Go fuck yourselves, you bunch of child molestors.

36. Their relivance is nonexistent...

37. Why do we tolerate another sovereign state meddling in our country?

41. For starters, bishops and priests need to register as agents of a foreign country

38. This is one key reason I am no longer a Catholic nor will ever be one again

40. Looks like the rank-and-file Catholics

44. Keep marching toward irrelevance, Vatican.

45. Know thine enemy

47. Hatred is "intrinsically disordered"

50. "...the lone voice of courage..."

52. Hey I think it is great that a bunch of men that don't marry

54. I read the subject and worried they were going to send troops

55. The effects of gay marijuana are fucking unreal. Can't believe the shit I read on DU.

56. Letter from a Long-Lapsed Catholic

57. This generation of Vatican officials does not speak for future generations