Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:37 AM
reACTIONary (999 posts)
Federal agents arrest 34 white supremacists
Source: By Sari Horwitz / The Washington Post
WASHINGTON — Federal agents arrested dozens of members of the white supremacist Aryan Brotherhood of Texas on Friday and charged them with murder, kidnapping, racketeering and conspiracy to distribute methamphetamine and cocaine. A 43-page federal indictment unsealed by the Justice Department names 34 members of the violent organized crime group who have been charged, including four of its senior leaders. Read more: http://www.bendbulletin.com/article/20121110/NEWS0107/211100359/
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| reACTIONary | Nov 2012 | OP | |
| Daniel537 | Nov 2012 | #1 | |
| dixiegrrrrl | Nov 2012 | #9 | |
| vduhr | Nov 2012 | #20 | |
| Posteritatis | Nov 2012 | #39 | |
| bjobotts | Nov 2012 | #48 | |
| Scairp | Nov 2012 | #62 | |
| Ter | Nov 2012 | #34 | |
| Daniel537 | Nov 2012 | #58 | |
| Major Nikon | Nov 2012 | #37 | |
| Mosby | Nov 2012 | #38 | |
| Scootaloo | Nov 2012 | #50 | |
| Daniel537 | Nov 2012 | #57 | |
| Mosby | Nov 2012 | #63 | |
| yardwork | Nov 2012 | #65 | |
| atreides1 | Dec 2012 | #76 | |
| FiveGoodMen | Dec 2012 | #67 | |
| AAO | Nov 2012 | #53 | |
| PerceptionManagement | Dec 2012 | #78 | |
| Kber | Nov 2012 | #2 | |
| mtasselin | Nov 2012 | #3 | |
| kerouac2 | Nov 2012 | #4 | |
| Tutonic | Nov 2012 | #25 | |
| barbtries | Nov 2012 | #27 | |
| magical thyme | Nov 2012 | #54 | |
| Posteritatis | Nov 2012 | #40 | |
| barnabas63 | Nov 2012 | #5 | |
| mountain grammy | Nov 2012 | #6 | |
| kentauros | Dec 2012 | #68 | |
| Paladin | Dec 2012 | #74 | |
| mountain grammy | Dec 2012 | #75 | |
| Paladin | Dec 2012 | #79 | |
| mountain grammy | Dec 2012 | #80 | |
| Paladin | Dec 2012 | #81 | |
| Le Taz Hot | Nov 2012 | #7 | |
| Cooley Hurd | Nov 2012 | #11 | |
| reACTIONary | Nov 2012 | #19 | |
| Earth_First | Nov 2012 | #23 | |
| kestrel91316 | Nov 2012 | #33 | |
| reACTIONary | Nov 2012 | #42 | |
| Hugabear | Nov 2012 | #59 | |
| reACTIONary | Nov 2012 | #61 | |
| sammymantha | Dec 2012 | #66 | |
| janx | Dec 2012 | #72 | |
| Orrex | Nov 2012 | #12 | |
| janx | Dec 2012 | #71 | |
| sammymantha | Dec 2012 | #82 | |
| rucky | Nov 2012 | #8 | |
| Le Taz Hot | Nov 2012 | #14 | |
| zabet | Dec 2012 | #83 | |
| DemoTex | Nov 2012 | #10 | |
| oldbanjo | Nov 2012 | #13 | |
| The Wizard | Nov 2012 | #15 | |
| ailsagirl | Nov 2012 | #16 | |
| AllyCat | Nov 2012 | #17 | |
| momsrule | Nov 2012 | #18 | |
| starroute | Nov 2012 | #21 | |
| John2 | Nov 2012 | #22 | |
| underthematrix | Nov 2012 | #49 | |
| jpak | Nov 2012 | #24 | |
| alp227 | Nov 2012 | #41 | |
| d_b | Nov 2012 | #26 | |
| stlsaxman | Nov 2012 | #28 | |
| waddirum | Nov 2012 | #64 | |
| toby jo | Nov 2012 | #29 | |
| sulphurdunn | Nov 2012 | #30 | |
| 2banon | Nov 2012 | #32 | |
| freshwest | Nov 2012 | #31 | |
| EmeraldCityGrl | Nov 2012 | #35 | |
| ancianita | Nov 2012 | #36 | |
| Duppers | Nov 2012 | #46 | |
| itsrobert | Nov 2012 | #43 | |
| Kurovski | Nov 2012 | #44 | |
| Pachamama | Nov 2012 | #45 | |
| shenmue | Nov 2012 | #47 | |
| qkvhj | Nov 2012 | #51 | |
| Berlum | Dec 2012 | #84 | |
| BainsBane | Nov 2012 | #52 | |
| lunatica | Nov 2012 | #55 | |
| janx | Dec 2012 | #73 | |
| Iggy | Nov 2012 | #56 | |
| sarcasmo | Nov 2012 | #60 | |
| Remmah2 | Dec 2012 | #69 | |
| ileus | Dec 2012 | #70 | |
| malz | Dec 2012 | #77 |
Response to reACTIONary (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:38 AM
Daniel537 (1,124 posts)
1. 34 less Republican voters. n/t
Response to Daniel537 (Reply #1)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:24 AM
dixiegrrrrl (31,429 posts)
9. I am curious if those folks actually DO vote.
Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #9)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:03 AM
vduhr (593 posts)
20. If they are a felon, they may not. It depends.......
Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #9)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:16 PM
Posteritatis (17,452 posts)
39. Once you're off in things like Aryan Brotherhood territory, probably not
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Most of those groups refuse to even recognize the US government as a legitimate entity - you know, the ZOG bullshit and all of that. They might support some fringe fascist candidate come election times, though seeing as most of those are vowing to dismantle the whole system anyway I'm not sure if that counts.
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Response to Posteritatis (Reply #39)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:52 AM
bjobotts (8,377 posts)
48. They "influence" voters but
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You didn't hear that from me.
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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #9)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:03 PM
Scairp (2,253 posts)
62. I would bet no
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They don't register in the first place, would be my guess. Responsible citizens register to vote and then actually go do it. People like this don't do responsible things the rest of us do without thinking.
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Response to Daniel537 (Reply #1)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:55 AM
Ter (4,225 posts)
34. They probably vote third party
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The super-far right (not Freepers, they are only super far-right to us) doesn't like Republicans because of their Israel policy and wars.
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Response to Ter (Reply #34)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:33 PM
Daniel537 (1,124 posts)
58. True enough
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But to get the black guy out, i think they may have put aside their hatred of Israel for just one day.
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Response to Daniel537 (Reply #1)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:13 PM
Major Nikon (10,106 posts)
37. Probably somewhat less
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Felons on parole can't vote in Texas.
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Response to Daniel537 (Reply #1)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:25 PM
Mosby (3,030 posts)
38. if they were 34 crips arrested
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Would you say "34 less Democratic voters"?
You sound exactly like a freeper but in reverse. |
Response to Mosby (Reply #38)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:22 AM
Scootaloo (6,104 posts)
50. Can you point me towards prolific Democratic support and appeal to Crips sentiment?
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I mean besides the prevalence of the color blue.
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Response to Mosby (Reply #38)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:32 PM
Daniel537 (1,124 posts)
57. LOL, somebody got offended.
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Do you have a relative in this group or something?
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Response to Daniel537 (Reply #57)
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:23 PM
Mosby (3,030 posts)
63. funny
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Last edited Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:23 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) I despise skinheads. You have no idea.
I just think that the average republican is uninformed not evil, and when we paint the average republican as a monster we are doing the same thing that the far right does to dems. |
Response to Mosby (Reply #63)
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:20 PM
yardwork (37,173 posts)
65. I think that the post was a reference to the blatantly racist campaigns run by many Republicans.
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There's no question that many Republican campaigns in recent years have been extremely, blatantly racist.
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Response to Mosby (Reply #63)
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 10:26 PM
atreides1 (10,268 posts)
76. But you know what
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If you choose to remain uninformed then you are part of the evil...with all of the information available no one has any excuse to claim ignorance, unless it's intentional!
I have in-laws who are Republicans...and their self inflicted ignorance is a form of evil. in my view. |
Response to Mosby (Reply #38)
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 01:14 PM
FiveGoodMen (13,268 posts)
67. "You sound exactly like a freeper but in reverse."
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Freepers are lying, racist, scumbags.
The "reverse" of that is being an honest, decent person. I understand that many Freepers eat breakfast. So do I. Does that make me exactly like a Freeper? (Maybe the fact that each side accuses the other does NOT make them equivalent) |
Response to Daniel537 (Reply #1)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:56 AM
AAO (1,584 posts)
53. Funny, but why was that also my first thought?
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Response to Daniel537 (Reply #1)
Sat Dec 29, 2012, 06:39 AM
PerceptionManagement (274 posts)
78. This is why right wing domestic terrorism is never acknowledged
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When you point out that the fascists in America are all republican (and some of them in government), it kind of makes them look bad. Meanwhile OWS are marked as terrorists and it's leaders marked for assassination. No one must ever impugn the Banksters or the 1%.
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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:42 AM
Kber (3,320 posts)
2. Wow. They really are superior aren't they?
Response to Kber (Reply #2)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:47 AM
mtasselin (206 posts)
3. Legends
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They are legends in their our mind
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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:51 AM
kerouac2 (248 posts)
4. Wonder how many had Romney signs on their lawns. nt
Response to kerouac2 (Reply #4)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:54 AM
Tutonic (2,470 posts)
25. According to their Frau Peggy Noonan
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the "number of law signs" that she saw for Romney was a sign that he was going to win the election. Funny how Peggy was wrong like the gang of 34.
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Response to Tutonic (Reply #25)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:58 AM
barbtries (15,024 posts)
27. for every romney sign you saw in NC
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there were one or two obama signs that the republicans assholes stole. mine was one of the stolen ones.
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Response to Tutonic (Reply #25)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:51 AM
magical thyme (4,254 posts)
54. For every Romney sign in my neck of the Maine woods
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there were 1 or 2 Obama supporters who didn't post signs for fear of retribution against our property or, worse, our furfamily.
Simply not worth the risk. Signs don't change anybody's mind, but around here they may make you a target of armed nutcases. And when the nutcases here aren't in mom's basement eating cheetos, their hunting for meat to eat with the cheetos. Actually there were very few signs in either direction in my area. I think we're mostly demoralized far right and Paul supporters, or Obama pragmatists like me who wouldn't put my critters and life at risk for no good reason. |
Response to kerouac2 (Reply #4)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:19 PM
Posteritatis (17,452 posts)
40. I actually doubt it - those groups would consider most freepers to be way too liberal
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If they had signs on their lawns at all, they'd probably be for someone like Matt Koehl or his general neighborhood.
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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:55 AM
barnabas63 (1,104 posts)
5. geezus...the Racists and their meth!
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Good work feds!
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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:03 AM
mountain grammy (1,803 posts)
6. freedom fighters for the great state of Texas.
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Seceed!.....please!
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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #6)
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 02:05 PM
kentauros (22,204 posts)
68. No.
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I refuse to allow them the "pleasure". I'd rather they have to put up with the rest of us that do not want to secede.
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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #6)
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 03:10 PM
Paladin (8,847 posts)
74. Learn How To Spell. Please.
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The word you're groping for is "secede," not "seceed." If you're going to vilify my state, at least be coherent. |
Response to Paladin (Reply #74)
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 08:33 PM
mountain grammy (1,803 posts)
75. oops, shit! Always have trouble with that word, must be the 8 years I lived in Texas.
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Sorry, don't mean to vilify Texas. Some of my most lovable, dumb relatives live there, and I do love them. I still listen to Jim Hightower and give Molly Ivins' books at Christmas. Don't secede, Texas, just grow up!
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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #75)
Sat Dec 29, 2012, 08:35 AM
Paladin (8,847 posts)
79. 3.3 Million Texans Recently Voted For Obama.
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Don't expect to take a dump on the entire state of Texas, Democrats included, without there being some hostile responses---from grown-up Texans like me. |
Response to Paladin (Reply #79)
Sat Dec 29, 2012, 07:06 PM
mountain grammy (1,803 posts)
80. Yes they did, and one was my wonderful, 85 year old aunt in El Paso
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may she live forever!
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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #80)
Sat Dec 29, 2012, 08:18 PM
Paladin (8,847 posts)
81. Good For Her. Long May She Abide. (nt)
Response to reACTIONary (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:03 AM
Le Taz Hot (14,644 posts)
7. Wait. The leaders' name is Kelly Elley?
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". . .alleged ABT leader Kelly Ray Elley . . ." I know, I know, sophomoric but it is kinda funny.
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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #7)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:30 AM
Cooley Hurd (21,022 posts)
11. Kelly Elley, 2 by 4, made it thru the prison door...
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I'm sophomoric as well.
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Response to Cooley Hurd (Reply #11)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:57 AM
reACTIONary (999 posts)
19. Then bent over, asked for more. (nt)
Response to reACTIONary (Reply #19)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:33 AM
Earth_First (11,819 posts)
23. Prison rape jokes aren't cool in my book...
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Please consider removing your response, or I will alert on it.
Thanks! |
Response to Earth_First (Reply #23)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:51 AM
kestrel91316 (45,688 posts)
33. I don't object when it's violent racist miscreants. Just sayin'.
Response to Earth_First (Reply #23)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:04 PM
reACTIONary (999 posts)
42. It's NOT a rape joke..
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...if you "ask for more", you aren't being raped. Prison sex is not necessarily rape. Just because your behind bars doesn't mean you must abstain.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situational_sexual_behavior |
Response to reACTIONary (Reply #42)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:53 PM
Hugabear (9,879 posts)
59. So then it's a gay joke, which is ok...
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Sheesh.
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Response to Hugabear (Reply #59)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:56 PM
reACTIONary (999 posts)
61. Nope, its not a gay joke...
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... its an asshole joke. As in the big, bad, tough racist asshole has a silly, childish name and is into passive submission to physical abuse. Kind of a role-reversal thing.
Granted, this is very low, crude humor. But it isn't inhumane, insensitive glee about violent sexual abuse or denigration of gay sexuality. |
Response to Cooley Hurd (Reply #11)
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 02:39 AM
sammymantha (2 posts)
66. Dying to know....
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what do you know about kelly Elley?
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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #7)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:31 AM
Orrex (36,832 posts)
12. Probably likes jelly in his belly.
Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #7)
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 02:49 PM
janx (21,732 posts)
71. That's what I noticed first too--
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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #7)
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 02:19 AM
sammymantha (2 posts)
82. funny thing is.....
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we were sort of dating for a few weeks.... Kelly and I.... and i didn't know anything about this till after he was arrested.... its just an extremely creepy realization i guess....
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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:10 AM
rucky (35,044 posts)
8. Good thing the Sons of Anarchy didn't get to them first.
Response to rucky (Reply #8)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:36 AM
Le Taz Hot (14,644 posts)
14. Oh. My. God.
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I LOVE that show! I don't have a TV service so am having to rely on friends in low places to get the current season. I'm only up to episode 5 so I have a LOT of catching up to do. One of the best series ever. Season 1-4 is now on Netflix.
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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #14)
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 03:19 AM
zabet (6,728 posts)
83. ONG
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Me too! I don't even watch television but, I do make an exception for SOA!
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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:28 AM
DemoTex (22,001 posts)
10. Real choirboys
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What charges does that leave? Treason, maybe?
Love the link to the Bend Bulletin! Makes me miss Bend. Snowing today? |
Response to reACTIONary (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:34 AM
oldbanjo (678 posts)
13. Next they need to arrest the Congressman
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that have screwed this Country for two years.
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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:41 AM
The Wizard (7,065 posts)
15. License plate factory
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fills 34 job openings.
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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:44 AM
ailsagirl (9,589 posts)
16. Murder?
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Ugh
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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:52 AM
AllyCat (7,557 posts)
17. Horrible. So glad to see these people will face justice.
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How many more are there?
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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:53 AM
momsrule (94 posts)
18. zi just wonder
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Was Grover Norquist one of them?
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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:16 AM
starroute (10,469 posts)
21. Unfortunately, prison is just one great networking opportunity for these guys
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They really should be locked up in a wing of their own with no opportunity to proselytize among the general prison population.
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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:30 AM
John2 (1,979 posts)
22. Eric Holder
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finally did his job huh?
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Response to John2 (Reply #22)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:25 AM
underthematrix (577 posts)
49. You have no idea what the President, Vice President, the
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Attorney General, the FBI, and the Defense Department are up against. Oh and don't forget the Secret Service.
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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:34 AM
jpak (26,953 posts)
24. Will Rick Perry pardon them? They are his "base"
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yup
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Response to jpak (Reply #24)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:21 PM
alp227 (20,997 posts)
41. Wait til you hear what THIS texas republicon had to say...
Response to reACTIONary (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:05 AM
stlsaxman (9,034 posts)
28. No thugs in our house, are there, dear?
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all the while Graham slept on, dreaming of a world where he could do just what he wanted to.
https:// |
Response to stlsaxman (Reply #28)
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:18 PM
waddirum (517 posts)
64. It was Andy Partridge's birthday on Sunday
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Nov. 11.
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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:28 AM
toby jo (491 posts)
29. go FBI - like to see my tax dollars at work like that
Response to reACTIONary (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:31 AM
sulphurdunn (3,667 posts)
30. I'm glad the Feds
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went after the Confederate trail park faction of the Republican Party in Texas. Now, if it'll just go after its Wall Street mansions in the Hamptons faction, I will be seriously impressed.
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Response to sulphurdunn (Reply #30)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:44 AM
2banon (970 posts)
32. Excellent point.. well said!
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and I agree..
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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:38 AM
freshwest (32,410 posts)
31. Wonder if this will spun to further convince the frightwingers that Obama is coming for 'em...
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I can see the headlines in the conspiracy media:
Federal agents, under Executive Orders by Obama, arrest 34 enterprising, Second Amendment-loving Americans. They've take them to the FEMA death camps on fabricated charges! Run for the hills! Now it begins! We told you so! |
Response to reACTIONary (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:59 AM
EmeraldCityGrl (4,310 posts)
35. Thank the Gods for the FBI. n/t
Response to reACTIONary (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:01 PM
ancianita (1,053 posts)
36. We have the Southern Poverty Law Center's decades of monitoring to thank for this.
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Government agencies have depended on their help for awhile now. SPLC is the major medical center for a sick southern society.
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Response to ancianita (Reply #36)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:15 PM
Duppers (4,477 posts)
46. exactly right
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And my first thought. Thx for saying it.
I am a supporter of SPLC, a worthy cause. |
Response to reACTIONary (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:13 PM
itsrobert (9,112 posts)
43. Off to the Obama labor camps for republicans
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where they will be force to make Obama phones and print food stamps.
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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:00 PM
Kurovski (33,443 posts)
44. R-80 (nt)
Response to reACTIONary (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:02 PM
Pachamama (8,847 posts)
45. Hopefully these people are being watched and all their ilk and sympathizers....
Response to reACTIONary (Original post)
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:33 PM
shenmue (5,017 posts)
47. Yay!
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Bunch of jerks. Our society is now a less stinky place.
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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:40 AM
qkvhj (57 posts)
51. nope
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Saying these freaks are just repubs is like saying that the new black panthers are just dems.
Zealots get to me very quickly and I don't care what flavor they are. They do not represent any Americans I know or want to know. They are neither R or D they are just Fing crazy. |
Response to qkvhj (Reply #51)
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 08:12 AM
Berlum (3,979 posts)
84. ...then the Republicans need to publicly denounce the hate mongers
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...silence is unacceptable. Dishonorable. The Republicans need to formally, loudly, and persistently disown hate and criminality.
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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:34 AM
BainsBane (11,040 posts)
52. I wonder if there is a link to assassination threats
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If they are cracking down in part because of increased threats against the president.
As for their voting: the one's without felony convictions would have voted for Romney in an effort to prevent Obama from being reelected. |
Response to reACTIONary (Original post)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:19 AM
lunatica (28,953 posts)
55. This sounds like Breaking Bad but in real life
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Response to lunatica (Reply #55)
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 03:05 PM
janx (21,732 posts)
73. Yes, but I bet they didn't have the blue stuff. n/t
Response to reACTIONary (Original post)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:07 PM
Iggy (1,418 posts)
56. Hmm.. so the excuses surrounding domestic terrorism coming from FBI/CIA
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i.e. "we can't stop it" are mostly bullcrap?
that's what I thought. |
Response to reACTIONary (Original post)
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:42 PM
sarcasmo (13,560 posts)
60. Kick!
Response to reACTIONary (Original post)
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 02:29 PM
Remmah2 (3,291 posts)
69. Employees of Walter White Enterprises. nt
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nt
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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 02:35 PM
ileus (9,313 posts)
70. sounds like an episode of SOA.
Response to reACTIONary (Original post)
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 10:46 PM
malz (89 posts)
77. "methamphetamine and cocaine."
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Ooooooooh, such SOLID American Values!
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