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Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:37 AM

Federal agents arrest 34 white supremacists

Source: By Sari Horwitz / The Washington Post

WASHINGTON Federal agents arrested dozens of members of the white supremacist Aryan Brotherhood of Texas on Friday and charged them with murder, kidnapping, racketeering and conspiracy to distribute methamphetamine and cocaine.

A 43-page federal indictment unsealed by the Justice Department names 34 members of the violent organized crime group who have been charged, including four of its senior leaders.

Read more: http://www.bendbulletin.com/article/20121110/NEWS0107/211100359/

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Reply Federal agents arrest 34 white supremacists (Original post)
reACTIONary Nov 2012 OP
Daniel537 Nov 2012 #1
dixiegrrrrl Nov 2012 #9
vduhr Nov 2012 #20
Posteritatis Nov 2012 #39
bjobotts Nov 2012 #48
Scairp Nov 2012 #62
Ter Nov 2012 #34
Daniel537 Nov 2012 #58
Major Nikon Nov 2012 #37
Mosby Nov 2012 #38
Scootaloo Nov 2012 #50
Daniel537 Nov 2012 #57
Mosby Nov 2012 #63
yardwork Nov 2012 #65
atreides1 Dec 2012 #76
FiveGoodMen Dec 2012 #67
AAO Nov 2012 #53
PerceptionManagement Dec 2012 #78
Kber Nov 2012 #2
mtasselin Nov 2012 #3
kerouac2 Nov 2012 #4
Tutonic Nov 2012 #25
barbtries Nov 2012 #27
magical thyme Nov 2012 #54
Posteritatis Nov 2012 #40
barnabas63 Nov 2012 #5
mountain grammy Nov 2012 #6
kentauros Dec 2012 #68
Paladin Dec 2012 #74
mountain grammy Dec 2012 #75
Paladin Dec 2012 #79
mountain grammy Dec 2012 #80
Paladin Dec 2012 #81
Le Taz Hot Nov 2012 #7
Cooley Hurd Nov 2012 #11
reACTIONary Nov 2012 #19
Earth_First Nov 2012 #23
kestrel91316 Nov 2012 #33
reACTIONary Nov 2012 #42
Hugabear Nov 2012 #59
reACTIONary Nov 2012 #61
sammymantha Dec 2012 #66
janx Dec 2012 #72
Orrex Nov 2012 #12
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rucky Nov 2012 #8
Le Taz Hot Nov 2012 #14
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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:38 AM

1. 34 less Republican voters. n/t

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Response to Daniel537 (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:24 AM

9. I am curious if those folks actually DO vote.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #9)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:03 AM

20. If they are a felon, they may not. It depends.......

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #9)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:16 PM

39. Once you're off in things like Aryan Brotherhood territory, probably not

Most of those groups refuse to even recognize the US government as a legitimate entity - you know, the ZOG bullshit and all of that. They might support some fringe fascist candidate come election times, though seeing as most of those are vowing to dismantle the whole system anyway I'm not sure if that counts.

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Response to Posteritatis (Reply #39)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:52 AM

48. They "influence" voters but

You didn't hear that from me.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #9)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:03 PM

62. I would bet no

They don't register in the first place, would be my guess. Responsible citizens register to vote and then actually go do it. People like this don't do responsible things the rest of us do without thinking.

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Response to Daniel537 (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:55 AM

34. They probably vote third party

 

The super-far right (not Freepers, they are only super far-right to us) doesn't like Republicans because of their Israel policy and wars.

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Response to Ter (Reply #34)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:33 PM

58. True enough

But to get the black guy out, i think they may have put aside their hatred of Israel for just one day.

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Response to Daniel537 (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:13 PM

37. Probably somewhat less

Felons on parole can't vote in Texas.

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Response to Daniel537 (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:25 PM

38. if they were 34 crips arrested

Would you say "34 less Democratic voters"?

You sound exactly like a freeper but in reverse.

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Response to Mosby (Reply #38)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:22 AM

50. Can you point me towards prolific Democratic support and appeal to Crips sentiment?

I mean besides the prevalence of the color blue.

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Response to Mosby (Reply #38)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:32 PM

57. LOL, somebody got offended.

Do you have a relative in this group or something?

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Response to Daniel537 (Reply #57)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:23 PM

63. funny

I despise skinheads. You have no idea.

I just think that the average republican is uninformed not evil, and when we paint the average republican as a monster we are doing the same thing that the far right does to dems.

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Response to Mosby (Reply #63)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:20 PM

65. I think that the post was a reference to the blatantly racist campaigns run by many Republicans.

There's no question that many Republican campaigns in recent years have been extremely, blatantly racist.

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Response to Mosby (Reply #63)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 10:26 PM

76. But you know what

If you choose to remain uninformed then you are part of the evil...with all of the information available no one has any excuse to claim ignorance, unless it's intentional!

I have in-laws who are Republicans...and their self inflicted ignorance is a form of evil. in my view.

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Response to Mosby (Reply #38)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 01:14 PM

67. "You sound exactly like a freeper but in reverse."

Freepers are lying, racist, scumbags.

The "reverse" of that is being an honest, decent person.

I understand that many Freepers eat breakfast. So do I. Does that make me exactly like a Freeper?

(Maybe the fact that each side accuses the other does NOT make them equivalent)

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Response to Daniel537 (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:56 AM

53. Funny, but why was that also my first thought?

 

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Response to Daniel537 (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 06:39 AM

78. This is why right wing domestic terrorism is never acknowledged

When you point out that the fascists in America are all republican (and some of them in government), it kind of makes them look bad. Meanwhile OWS are marked as terrorists and it's leaders marked for assassination. No one must ever impugn the Banksters or the 1%.

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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:42 AM

2. Wow. They really are superior aren't they?

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Response to Kber (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:47 AM

3. Legends

They are legends in their our mind

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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:51 AM

4. Wonder how many had Romney signs on their lawns. nt

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Response to kerouac2 (Reply #4)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:54 AM

25. According to their Frau Peggy Noonan

the "number of law signs" that she saw for Romney was a sign that he was going to win the election. Funny how Peggy was wrong like the gang of 34.

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Response to Tutonic (Reply #25)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:58 AM

27. for every romney sign you saw in NC

there were one or two obama signs that the republicans assholes stole. mine was one of the stolen ones.

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Response to Tutonic (Reply #25)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:51 AM

54. For every Romney sign in my neck of the Maine woods

there were 1 or 2 Obama supporters who didn't post signs for fear of retribution against our property or, worse, our furfamily.

Simply not worth the risk. Signs don't change anybody's mind, but around here they may make you a target of armed nutcases.

And when the nutcases here aren't in mom's basement eating cheetos, their hunting for meat to eat with the cheetos.

Actually there were very few signs in either direction in my area. I think we're mostly demoralized far right and Paul supporters, or Obama pragmatists like me who wouldn't put my critters and life at risk for no good reason.

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Response to kerouac2 (Reply #4)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:19 PM

40. I actually doubt it - those groups would consider most freepers to be way too liberal

If they had signs on their lawns at all, they'd probably be for someone like Matt Koehl or his general neighborhood.

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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:55 AM

5. geezus...the Racists and their meth!

Good work feds!

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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:03 AM

6. freedom fighters for the great state of Texas.

Seceed!.....please!

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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 02:05 PM

68. No.

I refuse to allow them the "pleasure". I'd rather they have to put up with the rest of us that do not want to secede.

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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 03:10 PM

74. Learn How To Spell. Please.


The word you're groping for is "secede," not "seceed." If you're going to vilify my state, at least be coherent.

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Response to Paladin (Reply #74)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 08:33 PM

75. oops, shit! Always have trouble with that word, must be the 8 years I lived in Texas.

Sorry, don't mean to vilify Texas. Some of my most lovable, dumb relatives live there, and I do love them. I still listen to Jim Hightower and give Molly Ivins' books at Christmas. Don't secede, Texas, just grow up!

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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #75)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 08:35 AM

79. 3.3 Million Texans Recently Voted For Obama.


Don't expect to take a dump on the entire state of Texas, Democrats included, without there being some hostile responses---from grown-up Texans like me.

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Response to Paladin (Reply #79)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 07:06 PM

80. Yes they did, and one was my wonderful, 85 year old aunt in El Paso

may she live forever!

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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #80)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 08:18 PM

81. Good For Her. Long May She Abide. (nt)

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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:03 AM

7. Wait. The leaders' name is Kelly Elley?

". . .alleged ABT leader Kelly Ray Elley . . ." I know, I know, sophomoric but it is kinda funny.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:30 AM

11. Kelly Elley, 2 by 4, made it thru the prison door...

I'm sophomoric as well.

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Reply #11)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:57 AM

19. Then bent over, asked for more. (nt)

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Response to reACTIONary (Reply #19)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:33 AM

23. Prison rape jokes aren't cool in my book...

Please consider removing your response, or I will alert on it.

Thanks!

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Response to Earth_First (Reply #23)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:51 AM

33. I don't object when it's violent racist miscreants. Just sayin'.

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Response to Earth_First (Reply #23)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:04 PM

42. It's NOT a rape joke..

...if you "ask for more", you aren't being raped. Prison sex is not necessarily rape. Just because your behind bars doesn't mean you must abstain.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situational_sexual_behavior

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Response to reACTIONary (Reply #42)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:53 PM

59. So then it's a gay joke, which is ok...

Sheesh.

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Response to Hugabear (Reply #59)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:56 PM

61. Nope, its not a gay joke...

... its an asshole joke. As in the big, bad, tough racist asshole has a silly, childish name and is into passive submission to physical abuse. Kind of a role-reversal thing.

Granted, this is very low, crude humor. But it isn't inhumane, insensitive glee about violent sexual abuse or denigration of gay sexuality.

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Reply #11)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 02:39 AM

66. Dying to know....

what do you know about kelly Elley?

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Reply #11)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 02:59 PM

72. !!!

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:31 AM

12. Probably likes jelly in his belly.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 02:49 PM

71. That's what I noticed first too--

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #7)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 02:19 AM

82. funny thing is.....

we were sort of dating for a few weeks.... Kelly and I.... and i didn't know anything about this till after he was arrested.... its just an extremely creepy realization i guess....

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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:10 AM

8. Good thing the Sons of Anarchy didn't get to them first.

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Response to rucky (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:36 AM

14. Oh. My. God.

I LOVE that show! I don't have a TV service so am having to rely on friends in low places to get the current season. I'm only up to episode 5 so I have a LOT of catching up to do. One of the best series ever. Season 1-4 is now on Netflix.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #14)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 03:19 AM

83. ONG

Me too! I don't even watch television but, I do make an exception for SOA!

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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:28 AM

10. Real choirboys

What charges does that leave? Treason, maybe?

Love the link to the Bend Bulletin! Makes me miss Bend. Snowing today?

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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:34 AM

13. Next they need to arrest the Congressman

that have screwed this Country for two years.

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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:41 AM

15. License plate factory

fills 34 job openings.

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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:44 AM

16. Murder?

Ugh

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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:52 AM

17. Horrible. So glad to see these people will face justice.

How many more are there?

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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:53 AM

18. zi just wonder

Was Grover Norquist one of them?

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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:16 AM

21. Unfortunately, prison is just one great networking opportunity for these guys

They really should be locked up in a wing of their own with no opportunity to proselytize among the general prison population.

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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:30 AM

22. Eric Holder

 

finally did his job huh?

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Response to John2 (Reply #22)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:25 AM

49. You have no idea what the President, Vice President, the

Attorney General, the FBI, and the Defense Department are up against. Oh and don't forget the Secret Service.

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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:34 AM

24. Will Rick Perry pardon them? They are his "base"

yup

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Response to jpak (Reply #24)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:21 PM

41. Wait til you hear what THIS texas republicon had to say...

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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:54 AM

26. rec 34

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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:05 AM

28. No thugs in our house, are there, dear?

all the while Graham slept on, dreaming of a world where he could do just what he wanted to.

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Response to stlsaxman (Reply #28)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 09:18 PM

64. It was Andy Partridge's birthday on Sunday

Nov. 11.

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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:28 AM

29. go FBI - like to see my tax dollars at work like that

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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:31 AM

30. I'm glad the Feds

went after the Confederate trail park faction of the Republican Party in Texas. Now, if it'll just go after its Wall Street mansions in the Hamptons faction, I will be seriously impressed.

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Response to sulphurdunn (Reply #30)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:44 AM

32. Excellent point.. well said!

and I agree..

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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:38 AM

31. Wonder if this will spun to further convince the frightwingers that Obama is coming for 'em...

I can see the headlines in the conspiracy media:

Federal agents, under Executive Orders by Obama, arrest 34 enterprising, Second Amendment-loving Americans. They've take them to the FEMA death camps on fabricated charges! Run for the hills! Now it begins! We told you so!

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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:59 AM

35. Thank the Gods for the FBI. n/t

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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:01 PM

36. We have the Southern Poverty Law Center's decades of monitoring to thank for this.

Government agencies have depended on their help for awhile now. SPLC is the major medical center for a sick southern society.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #36)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:15 PM

46. exactly right

And my first thought. Thx for saying it.

I am a supporter of SPLC, a worthy cause.

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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:13 PM

43. Off to the Obama labor camps for republicans

where they will be force to make Obama phones and print food stamps.

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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:00 PM

44. R-80 (nt)

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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:33 PM

47. Yay!

Bunch of jerks. Our society is now a less stinky place.

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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:40 AM

51. nope

 

Saying these freaks are just repubs is like saying that the new black panthers are just dems.
Zealots get to me very quickly and I don't care what flavor they are. They do not represent any Americans I know or want to know. They are neither R or D they are just Fing crazy.

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Response to qkvhj (Reply #51)

Sun Dec 30, 2012, 08:12 AM

84. ...then the Republicans need to publicly denounce the hate mongers

...silence is unacceptable. Dishonorable. The Republicans need to formally, loudly, and persistently disown hate and criminality.

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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:34 AM

52. I wonder if there is a link to assassination threats

If they are cracking down in part because of increased threats against the president.

As for their voting: the one's without felony convictions would have voted for Romney in an effort to prevent Obama from being reelected.

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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:19 AM

55. This sounds like Breaking Bad but in real life

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Response to lunatica (Reply #55)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 03:05 PM

73. Yes, but I bet they didn't have the blue stuff. n/t

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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:07 PM

56. Hmm.. so the excuses surrounding domestic terrorism coming from FBI/CIA

 

i.e. "we can't stop it" are mostly bullcrap?

that's what I thought.



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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:42 PM

60. Kick!

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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 02:29 PM

69. Employees of Walter White Enterprises. nt

 

nt

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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 02:35 PM

70. sounds like an episode of SOA.

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Response to reACTIONary (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 10:46 PM

77. "methamphetamine and cocaine."

 

Ooooooooh, such SOLID American Values!

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