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Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:18 PM

Karl Rove Defends His $300 Million Disaster...

Source: Talking Points Memo



Karl Rove boasted on the eve of Tuesday’s election that all signs pointed towards an electoral college landslide. He was right about the result, just wrong about the candidate. And now it’s up to Rove to explain to donors why, after blowing through $300 million of their money, President Obama is still President Obama and Harry Reid still runs the Senate.

Judging by Rove’s election night tantrum on Fox News, this was not a situation he was well prepared for. In a surreal stretch of television, he refused to believe the network’s call of Ohio, lashed out at producers for making it, then spouted a blizzard of county by county statistics to justify his increasingly untenable case.

“Is this just math that you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better?” Fox host Megyn Kelly asked at one point, “Or is this real?”...

...Two days later, Rove started the hard work of explaining why the Democrats were simply too much for any one billionaire-funded super PAC to handle...


Read more: http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/11/karl-rove-offers-long-list-of-excuses-after-300-million-debacle.php





  • Mother Nature: “Hurricane Sandy interrupted Mr. Romney’s momentum and allowed Mr. Obama to look presidential and bipartisan.” Rove telegraphed this argument even before election day, but the fact remains that there’s almost no polling evidence at all for it. Obama’s swing state lead had stabilized well before the storm hit.

  • Editors: “Then there was the anonymous New York Times headline writer who affixed “Let ‘Detroit Go Bankrupt’ to Mr. Romney’s November 2008 op-ed on reorganizing the auto companies, which the Obama campaign brought up again and again in the industrial Midwest. The president made it appear that Mr. Romney favored liquidation of the companies (which he did not), instead of an orderly reorganization (which he did).”

  • The Hired Help: “A hotel employee with a cellphone camera taped Mr. Romney talking at a May fundraiser about the “47%” of the population that do not have any federal income-tax liability. When released in September, the video added to public doubts about Mr. Romney’s wealth and character.”

  • Dirty Tricks: Rove told Fox that Obama won by “suppressing the vote.” Not by, say, imposing voting restrictions that disproportionately affect certain demographics, but by running mean ads about Bain Capital...

  • Mitt Romney: Rove said the Republican nominee ran a “valiant race,” but suggested that the failure to rebut the Bain attacks was exclusively a Romney issue. “We don’t do defense all that well,” he said. “It’s better to have the candidate (respond).”

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Indi Guy Nov 2012 OP
trublu992 Nov 2012 #1
Xipe Totec Nov 2012 #2
Richardo Nov 2012 #20
UTUSN Nov 2012 #42
wordpix Nov 2012 #55
BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #30
Indi Guy Nov 2012 #35
dothemath Nov 2012 #37
NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #48
The Wielding Truth Nov 2012 #3
dothemath Nov 2012 #38
The Wielding Truth Nov 2012 #39
closeupready Nov 2012 #4
Daniel537 Nov 2012 #5
Indi Guy Nov 2012 #6
HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #9
SoapBox Nov 2012 #11
yardwork Nov 2012 #34
wordpix Nov 2012 #56
SDjack Nov 2012 #7
bitchkitty Nov 2012 #23
SDjack Nov 2012 #28
Maeve Nov 2012 #8
Dubster Nov 2012 #10
lovuian Nov 2012 #12
Indi Guy Nov 2012 #18
no_hypocrisy Nov 2012 #13
Sarah Ibarruri Nov 2012 #14
Indi Guy Nov 2012 #15
Sarah Ibarruri Nov 2012 #22
Jim__ Nov 2012 #16
aquart Nov 2012 #54
Warpy Nov 2012 #17
Indi Guy Nov 2012 #19
Doremus Nov 2012 #21
dixiegrrrrl Nov 2012 #40
Indi Guy Nov 2012 #41
wordpix Nov 2012 #57
jpak Nov 2012 #24
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BREMPRO Nov 2012 #26
tomm2thumbs Nov 2012 #27
6000eliot Nov 2012 #29
McCamy Taylor Nov 2012 #31
Indi Guy Nov 2012 #33
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Historic NY Nov 2012 #36
EmeraldCityGrl Nov 2012 #43
Sunlei Nov 2012 #44
wordpix Nov 2012 #58
DCBob Nov 2012 #45
Indi Guy Nov 2012 #46
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GliderGuider Nov 2012 #50
Liberal_in_LA Nov 2012 #59
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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:20 PM

1. GO Karl!

Don't you ever for one split second let reality or common sense or math get in your way Stay Strong Karl we'll keep kicking you ass in elections for half the price!

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:21 PM

2. Rove, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!



Fuck off!

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Response to Xipe Totec (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:20 PM

20. !!!

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Response to Richardo (Reply #20)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:53 AM

42. TRUMP's tweet (in the link) is good, too:

********QUOTE********

@realDonaldTrump


Congrats to @KarlRove on blowing $400 million this cycle. Every race @CrossroadsGPS ran ads in, the Republicans lost. What a waste of money.

*******UNQUOTE******

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Response to UTUSN (Reply #42)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:13 PM

55. Classic Trump: "Congrats to @KarlRove on blowing $400 million this cycle..."

I love it!

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Response to Xipe Totec (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:50 PM

30. expect the gop to read our sides "book" before 2014/16

 

they will analyze every atom of how the Obama team did it all, and copy(well...TRY to copy) the strategeries for themselves.

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Response to BlueMan Votes (Reply #30)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:15 PM

35. That would sure be allot cheaper & more eeffective...

...than what they tried this cycle.

Just watch out for the influence of Super PAC money in state & local politics.

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Response to BlueMan Votes (Reply #30)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:27 AM

37. they don't know how ..........

 

Granted, they may try. I suspect their version of a 'ground game' will be more of the same kind of strategy (?) that failed them this time. It will be more like "we will tell you how to vote and if you don't agree, it is because you are a socialist-loving, freedom-hating, abortion loving, parasite that refuses to believe our way or the highway is the ONLY way to proceed. Be gone with you.
If they could have gotten just a billion or two more from a handful of the filthy rich people they love so much, they could have bought this election. Not every one of the repubs were 100% confident, though, and tried to set Florida up to allow the supremes to appoint Romney just as they did in 2000 with Bush.

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Response to BlueMan Votes (Reply #30)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:46 PM

48. I think they're too arrogant to do that. They're in denial.

They are blaming their losss(es) on everyone and everything but themselves and their strategy. Their one critique of themselves is that their candidate wasn't right-wing enough! Talk about not getting it.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:23 PM

3. No wonder Bush was so lousy. This boob was his brain.

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Response to The Wielding Truth (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:30 AM

38. cabbage?

 

Next time, maybe the billionaires will throw their cash behind a cabbage to be the 'brain'. The result will be the same and they will blame their own 'chosen' candidate. A pox on them.

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Response to dothemath (Reply #38)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:59 AM

39. It is insanity.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:24 PM

4. Just really unbelievable.

I mean, obviously, I'm going to relish when we win, but how can even the most objective observer look at that number, look at what a failure he was, and not just go, "wow. Total waste of money. Total."

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:24 PM

5. But i thought Republicans were supposed to be good with money.

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Response to Daniel537 (Reply #5)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:28 PM

6. Look at the record...

They're rarely good with other peoples' money.

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Response to Daniel537 (Reply #5)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:30 PM

9. They're just good at pissing away other's money.

Reagan, W...

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Response to Daniel537 (Reply #5)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:31 PM

11. OMG...they are HORRIBLE with money.

It's SO weird, that America believes these wild spenders, to be good with budgets and money.

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Response to SoapBox (Reply #11)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:39 PM

34. So true!

Well said.

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Response to Daniel537 (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:15 PM

56. let this be a lesson to ANYONE who thinks they are - if they were in charge of US pursestrings again

you can bet we'd have another BushCheney size economic disaster

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:28 PM

7. It's not like the loss to the rich is $300M. They will simply

increase their prices on products and services, and the 47% will pay for all of those ads demanding that we vote for Rmoney and GOP, against our own interests. That's right, we the 47% funded both sides of the election. Remember all of those Romney ads, we the 47% paid for those. Now, isn't that good enough reason to have controlled public financing?
The only guy who paid nothing is Rmoney. He contributed $0 to his own campaign.

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Response to SDjack (Reply #7)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:38 PM

23. Can't put a dollar value on his humiliation

though - that was priceless.

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Response to bitchkitty (Reply #23)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:18 PM

28. It was and continues to warm my heart. nt

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:29 PM

8. Then again, maybe he's just really, really bad at what he says he can do. eom

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:31 PM

10. Spam deleted by gkhouston (MIR Team)

 

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:33 PM

12. it wasn't 300 mill It was BILLIONS

and money and the Republican propaganda machine

failed
they created the Tea Party and it destroyed the Republican Party

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Response to lovuian (Reply #12)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:55 PM

18. The Super Pac's combined spent over a $billion...

It appears that Rove himself was responsible for over $300 million. And yes, the Tea Party was the best self defeating apparatus that money can buy -- well done.

Hopefully some of the adults in the GOP will come forward and go to work with Obama.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:35 PM

13. Hey Shelly, Chuck, and Dave,

Sue Rove for negligence with punitive damages. Get your money back (if you can . . . . )

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:37 PM

14. He's seriously looking like someone blew him up with air. nt

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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Reply #14)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:40 PM

15. Clearly - he's a casualty of inflation...

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Response to Indi Guy (Reply #15)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:38 PM

22. LOL! Good one. nt

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:54 PM

16. I hope yopu enjoy swinging in the wind Karl. - n/t

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Response to Jim__ (Reply #16)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:08 PM

54. No, darlin'. You want him twisting slowly, slowly in the wind.

It's special that way.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:55 PM

17. "Waaaaah!!! It's not me, it's THEM, the meanies!!!

"If only we could prevent everybody but white male landowners from voting, we'd have our country back!!"

It's never their fault, their dogma didn't fail, and they never made a mistake in their lives.

Somehow I don't think the gang of billionaire fascists is going to buy this one. The only thing that remains is for Fat Karl to find a good retirement spot where he can write poisonous books for the rest of his wasted, rotten life.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #17)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:20 PM

19. Karl's duplicity and hubris are of epic proportions! According to Rove...

...Obama won by “suppressing the vote.” Not by, say, imposing voting restrictions that disproportionately affect certain demographics, but by running mean ads about Bain Capital...

Hey Karl -- Remember how you slimed John Kerry's & Max Cleland's war records??? I'm glad I lived long enough to see you get the fuzzy side of the lollypop for a change.


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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:23 PM

21. “It’s better to have the candidate (respond).” I thought it was illegal to coordinate efforts.

Kkkarl sure does sound like he was coordinating with Willard's campaign. (He actually makes it sound like he was RUNNING it.) I thought that was illegal? Not that that makes a difference, as we all know he's above the law.


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Response to Doremus (Reply #21)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:59 AM

40. Of course he was running it.

He has always played the role of the man behind the throne.
This time, he had 2 super pacs, Crossroads something or another, I forgot the name already.
But no doubt in my mind he was running it.
Rove gained Republican attention and Democrat infamy for stealing the election for Bush.
He is very good at counting votes and coming up with dirty tricks, and wise enough not to leave his fingerprints on them.
He had a lot to do with Attorney Gate and Don siegleman's arrest and trials here in Alabama.

His Achille's heel is he fell in love with his own numbers and refused to accept the reality of why anyone would vote against a rich, entitled, racist prick.
Rove's bubble finally burst.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #40)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:04 AM

41. Rove's 2 PACs are...

...American Crossroads and Crossroads GPS. When you click on these sites you'll see that they are in a state of pre-election suspended animation -- they're still urging you to vote against Obama (I guess Rove doesn't have the money to pay his IT guys for updates).


Checkout these links to see where much of the PAC money went:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=American+Crossroads&oq=American+Crossroads&gs_l=youtube-reduced.12..0l4.13558.13558.0.14792.1.1.0.0.0.0.85.85.1.1.0...0.0...1ac.2.MDTadbhwB3Q

and

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Crossroads+gps&oq=Crossroads+gps&gs_l=youtube.12...0.0.0.3931.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0...0.0...1ac.


This ad is still up on the AC site:



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Response to Doremus (Reply #21)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:19 PM

57. I caught that "it's better...", too, and thought the same thing

If he were not coordinating, he would have said something like, "It's not my job to respond to attacks on Romney's days at Bain."

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:42 PM

24. How much of that ended up in KKKarl's own pockets?

Someone should sue him.

Yup

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:44 PM

25. Bain ADs DID WORK! HA! They were real and they WORKED. Sounds like a big piggy

WHINE FEST to me with a lot of CHEEZE.

"mitt ran a valient race"?! No Mention of mittLIES.. And, no TAX RETURNS! How'd that work out for them? Oh, they would have lost Bigger if he'd have released them, you say, Karl? Oh, that's too DAMN BAD.

LET DETROIT GO BANKRUPT Didn't Mr Stupidhead Double Down on that before he Switched and tried to take Credit for The Car Industries' Recovery?

What about the Jeep Ad, Karl? Ralph Gilles tweeting mitt he was full of Shit? Not bringing that up? Why not? Even David Mediawhore Gregory was after gops on that little freaking LIE.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:48 PM

26. all of your "excuses" Karl existed before your predicted landslide for Rmoney ...so>>>

how is this an explanation for Obama's victory as much as your utter incompetence for not factoring in these things? eh? i don't see any mention of demographics, legitimate rape, Obama's superior GOTV, Rmoneys Failed "ORCA"...


LoSER!!

how does it feel to be the most hated, mocked man in America?

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:04 PM

27. Frankly, he's ALL they got. He knows it. They know it. Sucks to be them.


His heart will probably give out before the next election from the looks of him however.

(yes, I know... what heart)

<g>

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:18 PM

29. Why does this number keep getting smaller? I thought it was 400 million.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:51 PM

31. Citizens United was a bad idea. Negative ads, money for loser candidates,

prolonged and painful primary---I kept my mouth shut and watched in quiet amusement. But now that it is over, I don't have to be quite anymore. So, this is for Turd Blossom and the Koch Brothers and Sheldon "The Pimp" Adelson:

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Reply #31)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:31 PM

33. David Koch's 'AFP'...

.... (Americans For Prosperity) is now more like America's Funniest Profligates.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:25 PM

32. The "anonymous New York Times headline writer" is new to me and steaming load of s__t

When someone like Romney submits an op-ed to the NY Times or any paper they don't just drop it off like it is a paper slid under a professors door.

Romney types negotiate before and after on the op-ed.

I had never heard this before but it probably already legend and lore for the Fox News believers.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:24 PM

36. Maybe there should be a Grand Jury to find out what went on in Ohio..

with the software rigging and the SOS statements as to why he went home....lots of questions what was rove attempting to achieve.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:06 PM

43. The doughboy behind the curtain has been revealed.

As long as Rove was in the right place at the right time he could ride the coattails
of the rich and powerful RW political machine. Once he was totally on his own to
"make it happen" he has proven to be a fraud, a talentless, big mouth excuse maker.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:09 PM

44. Loser!,would have been cheaper and best for America to PAY YOUR TAXES!

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Response to Sunlei (Reply #44)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:21 PM

58. also better to stop firing Americans & sending their jobs overseas, making million$ in the process

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:14 PM

45. Blaiming NY Times editors for "Let Detroit go Bankrupt".

I suspect Romney was fine with the title at the time. But the title was not the worst.. it was the first paragraph...

"IF General Motors, Ford and Chrysler get the bailout that their chief executives asked for yesterday, you can kiss the American automotive industry goodbye. It won’t go overnight, but its demise will be virtually guaranteed."

Romney and the vast majority of the GOP opposed the bailout.. there were no ifs, ands, buts about it.

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Response to DCBob (Reply #45)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:56 PM

46. As I recall, Obama was roundly criticized by the "Right" for...

...getting the federal government into the auto manufacturing business.

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Response to Indi Guy (Reply #46)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:00 PM

49. Yes he was... remember Obama Motors and Government Motors?

We dont hear those ignorant derisive terms anymore.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:39 PM

47. Bwahahahaha! nt

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:19 PM

50. It's like watching a cat try to cover up on linoleum...

Endless hours of hilarity ensue.

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Response to GliderGuider (Reply #50)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:34 AM

59. lol. apt analogy

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:31 PM

51. Richard Nixon's REVENGE on the Republican Party = stupid Racist Tea Thugs' Hate-Radio FAILURE.

Oh, and did I mention EXPENSIVE?

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:34 PM

52. Cheaters.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:35 PM

53. His brand is dead in the water

Hopefully, it will disappear beneath the waves never to be seen again.

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