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Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:21 PM

GOP asks "why?" and "where do we go from here?"

Source: AP-Excite


By CHARLES BABINGTON

WASHINGTON (AP) - Having lost the popular vote in five of the last six presidential elections, Republicans plunged Wednesday into an intense period of self-examination, blame-setting and testy debate over whether their party needs serious change or just some minor tweaks.

The fallout will help determine whether the GOP might return to heights approximating the Ronald Reagan years or, as some fear, suffer even deeper losses as the nation's Democratic-leaning Hispanics increase in number.

"The party is clearly in some sort of identity crisis," said Rick Tyler, a past aide to former House Speaker Newt Gingrich.

Hard-core conservatives, furious at President Barack Obama's re-election in the face of a weak economy, called for a wholesale shift to resolutely right positions on social and fiscal matters. Some demanded that party leaders resign.

FULL story at link.



Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20121107/DA2DE8GG1.html





Speaker of the House John Boehner, R-Ohio, talks about the elections and the unfinished business of Congress, at the Capitol in Washington, Wednesday, Nov. 7, 2012. The first post-election test of wills could start next week when Congress returns from its election recess to deal with unfinished business including a looming "fiscal cliff" of $400 billion in higher taxes and $100 billion in automatic cuts in military and domestic spending to take effect in January if Congress doesn't head them off. Economists warn that the combination could plunge the nation back into a recession. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)

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Reply GOP asks "why?" and "where do we go from here?" (Original post)
Omaha Steve Nov 2012 OP
L0oniX Nov 2012 #1
SoapBox Nov 2012 #2
OffWithTheirHeads Nov 2012 #3
ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #12
Buzz Clik Nov 2012 #4
DollarBillHines Nov 2012 #5
wordpix Nov 2012 #6
heaven05 Nov 2012 #7
boyedav1969 Nov 2012 #8
GrantDem Nov 2012 #24
riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #28
Sophiegirl Nov 2012 #9
Volaris Nov 2012 #25
bhikkhu Nov 2012 #10
argiel1234 Nov 2012 #13
Acornsouth Nov 2012 #11
meow2u3 Nov 2012 #31
cstanleytech Nov 2012 #14
gtar100 Nov 2012 #15
Gemini Cat Nov 2012 #16
ReRe Nov 2012 #17
ReRe Nov 2012 #18
JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2012 #19
bloomington-lib Nov 2012 #20
RobinA Nov 2012 #21
GliderGuider Nov 2012 #22
Marrah_G Nov 2012 #23
olegramps Nov 2012 #26
louis-t Nov 2012 #27
truthisfreedom Nov 2012 #29
FiveGoodMen Nov 2012 #30

Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:27 PM

1. GO TO HELL ...because all you've done is obstruct everything!

Please go to hell ...you are hurting America!

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:31 PM

2. Why?

...cause you're all STOOPID.

Where?

...out of existence.

Buh-BYE to the American Taliban.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:33 PM

3. They need to move further right! We all need to let them know!

That's a sure winner!

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Response to OffWithTheirHeads (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:06 PM

12. +1 nt

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:45 PM

4. This is exactly where we were in 2000. The pendulum has swung.

Funny thing about pendulums.

Enjoy this moment.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:46 PM

5. Just go home. The times have passed you by, GOP.

You can only piss in the chili so many times before the difference is noticed by everyone around the campfire.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:50 PM

6. why? These repugs are either stoopid or so rich they think everyone is like them on their private

islands and in their gated-community McMansions.

"Cut taxes for the rich, suppress the vote and control women's bodies, Repugs R Us."

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:02 PM

7. please

self destruct. You are irrelevant. Everyone talks of ron raygun being this great GOPPER luminary and he was the start of this rightwing, reactionary slide into fiscal and military chaos we've been through with the GD rethug party for the last 32YEARS. Please he was a royal POS! Raygun heights for who.? Me? Hell no! That was the start of the right wing reaction to ALL who had gained their civil rights. Fuck Raygun.

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Response to boyedav1969 (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:47 AM

24. Very good read!

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Response to boyedav1969 (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:40 AM

28. This is an excellent piece boyedav! Welcome to DU!

I presume you are the author? I really liked this part....

"... that's just a symptom of the same problem that lost the election for them: their ignorance. When a representative democracy, a government of and by the people, is dysfunctional, the problem is the people. They don't challenge what their partisans are telling them. The can't see beyond their own party lines. They choose not to see or believe anything that contradicts what they want to believe. They've essentially become surrogates and imitators of the same partisan posturing that we used to only hear from politicians. If they want to know what's wrong with government and why their party lost in this election cycle, the answer is no farther away from them than a mirror. But that would mean they'd have to take some responsibility. I don't see that happening."

Hope you stick around and play in the DU sandbox once in a while!


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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:25 PM

9. I might get pounded for this...

But I think that Boehner really does want to work across party lines. He just doesn't have the backbone needed. I wish he did.

He has been overcome by the radicals who have held the RW in handcuffs. And that is what is holding him back. Fear of losing his power and worse, fear of not being re-elected....which is effectively, the real bottom line.

Victims of their own making. Now they have to face the fact that their party is in rapid decline. They have no exit strategy, because they have no other thoughts beyond their current ones.

Who do they turn to now that the electorate isn't made up of older white males who long for their "good 'ole days."

This is the demise of the Republican Party. They have no future because they live in the past...long for the past...hope to restore the past. A past that is long gone. One that has become ashes in the fire pit of renewed optimism and hope for better days, equality, fairness and prosperity.

May FREEDOM persist. Especially within the confines our own Republic!!

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Response to Sophiegirl (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:56 AM

25. ...He just doesn't have the backbone needed. I wish he did.

THIS. The first Elected Official from that side of the isle to backtalk Rush, and have the stones to NOT bow down before the Fat Man the next day in slavering, apologetic cowardice, will get more useful shit done for this country than any Republican since Teddy Roosevelt.

Its not NECESSARILY Patriotism or "Good Ideas" they lack, its fucking BACKBONE.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:53 PM

10. I hope they take it as a national rejection of their extremist positions

on women's rights, gay rights, unions, taxes, jobs, and government.

I hope they look at the asshats at the fringes of their party and realize they aren't the ones that should be setting policy, and if they are, they're going to wind up one sad little party that no one pays attention to anymore.

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Response to bhikkhu (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:11 PM

13. +100

 

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:01 PM

11. If they can't see why they lost...

then they can't see what to fix!...

The teabaggercon party will never win a major election as long as they vilianize:
Women, Blacks, Latinos, Elderly, Middleclass, Poor, Unions, Public Workers, Teachers, Firefighters, Police, Auto workers, and 47% of the rest of us....
As the teabaggercons continue to search for answers to their irrelevence, the world is pasing them by....

So grab your popcorn and a cocktail, and watch as the party implodes...

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Response to Acornsouth (Reply #11)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:46 PM

31. The problem is not that they can't see why they lost

The real trouble is that they WON'T see. They're so convinced that the American people will embrace their extremist, anti-democratic views that they're shocked for us rejecting them.

As the old saying goes, There's none so blind as those who will not see, and the GOP is the blindest of them all.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:22 PM

14. I recommend that they head to the nearest surgeons that can

begin assisting them by extracting their heads from up inside their butts though I suspect many will die during the operations as their brains have been without oxygen for so long.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:26 AM

15. a) because you suck; b) away

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:08 AM

16. I have a few suggestions of where they can go and

what they can do with themselves once they arrive.

After completely screwing up the country for 32 years, they actually ask why?

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:49 AM

17. Why and where to go from here?

Well, as to "why", because of "God bless half-of-America" (referring to RMoney's 47% remark); because Ronnie Reagan's "Me-Me-Me" has to go-go-go. Democracy is a we-we-we type of society; what Bible are they reading from that says GREED IS GOOD? It's not in there, and any sane human being knows that greed is NOT good; ahhh heck, it's because nobody likes bullies; and on and on and on...

Where to go from here? I don't know. Surely there is an island somewhere where all 1%
of them could go live on, like the Cayman Islands? Yeah, they can go live with their money.

Or a maximum security penal/mental institution, since they're all sociopathic liars, cheats and thieves. My mind goes back to that scene in Andersonville Prison. NOBODY likes a liar, cheat & thief. We could empty out some of our prisons of folks that don't belong there in the first place and stick them all in there. Of course on their dime, since they have all of OUR money.

Whatever, they got themselves into this mess. Like my Mom used to say..."Grit your teeth and bare it", or "You made your bed, now sleep in it."

Logically, I truly cannot imagine how a political party can redeem itself after what they have
done.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:59 AM

18. Wait a minute.....

..... resignations? Now there's an idea. First Mitch McConnell; then Rand Paul; John Boehner; Eric Cantor; Paul Ryan. Who else?

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:08 AM

19. Hard-core conservatives ... called for a shift to the right

Talk about driving off a cliff ...

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:44 AM

20. They've painted themselves into a corner

They can't move to the left after teaching their people to hate the left

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:29 AM

21. Where To Go From Here

Ummmm....

1. Shut down the hate machine

2. Make some acquaintance with the "reality based world."

The rest should take care of itself. I say this not to help the Repubs start winning again, but if they would gain some semblance of sanity and move left to the point where they could see center with a high-powered telescope, maybe the Dems would move left a bit to compensate and we could get some discussion of a few mildly progressive subjects into the mix.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:35 AM

22. The schadenfreude never stops, does it?

I love watching authoritarian bigots eat their own livers...

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:36 AM

23. If your party would get away from the racists, teabaggers and religious groups

THEN, maybe you might have a shot at making a comeback.

Frankly, Mr. Oompa Loompa, a good portion of this country is scared shitless of the insane clown car you call a party.

Even if you were 100% right on fiscal matters, your party has just become to extreme, to racist, to bigoted, to mysogonistic, to anti-science and way to evangelical to ever sit comfortably with the majority of America.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:26 AM

26. Could the Republican Party's demise open the door to a third party?

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:00 AM

27. Two Star Trek episodes come to mind.

Both involved people who were led by forces that dominated their entire existence. When that force was taken away they wandered around, lost and confused.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:44 AM

29. Let's just sort this out for them and make it easy to digest... fuck off and die, repukes.

Pretty much sums it up.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:26 PM

30. They'll go farther

This election won't stop them. After '08, they just stepped up the crazy on Fox. Beck became a household name. GOP statements became more extreme in every way.

They'll go farther.

They'll lie more outrageously.

They'll cheat harder next time.

We need a better-informed public or they will eventually win. And then, they'll never let go of power. It will take a revolution. If that's even possible then.

We must try the criminals among them.

We must investigate and expose their schemes.

We must demand that news outlets check their facts and tell the truth.

Otherwise, Tuesday's results will be a short reprieve before the final destruction of American democracy.

We should understand by now that the party of rape will stop at nothing -- no, really, absolutely nothing -- to get total control of everything.

There is not a day to lose in trying to stop them.

Bipartisan is the dirtiest word on earth.

Never compromise with these fucking NAZIs.

Or they will win it all pretty soon.

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