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Sat Nov 3, 2012, 01:46 PM

BREAKING -Public Records Reveal Romney Profited From Corruption, Fraud & Racketeering at Bain

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Source: Journalist Rmuse at PoliticusUSA.com

MoveOn.org filed a complaint with the DOJ over Romney’s disclosure claiming he was 100% stock holder and paid Bain Capital executive in 2002 despite his contention left active management in 1999. The period between Feb 1999 and Aug 2001 is when Romney, Bain Capital, and their corrupt operatives conspired to commit bankruptcy fraud guaranteeing Bain Capital could plunder a company they managed with impunity.

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A similar scenario unfolded when Bain Capital took eToys into bankruptcy. Bain Capital’s secret law firm, MNAT, colluded with Romney’s bankruptcy gang by committing perjury to represent the debtors’ counsel and creditor’s counsel to give the appearance of being on opposite sides and conceal the fact eToys was not broke. Controlling both sides, Bain Capital’s corrupt gang colluded to plunder the company’s assets without opposition, and give Bain Capital eToys for free.

A 2005 Wall Street Journal article explained that eToys creditor’s attorney lied by failing to disclose conflict of interest when he appointed his partner as CEO of eToys. The eToys bankruptcy trustee alleged the “failure to disclose is difficult to understand as inadvertent rather than deliberate,” and it transpired in other companies Bain Capital took into bankruptcy during the same period. Influencing the debtor and creditor’s counsel, Bain was assured their bust out scheme would be successful. However, when an eToys executive liquidating assets discovered the frauds, including the company may not be broke, he alerted eToys managers and attorneys who attempted to buy him off; he declined their offer and reported the corruption to the Department of Justice. It is about this time that Romney, fearing a Department of Justice investigation, fled Bain Capital by retroactively retiring back to February 1999 to conceal his involvement in the eToys corruption scandal.

Despite the fact that Bain’s secret law firms (MNAT and Paul Traub) admitted lying, there was no Department of Justice investigation into Bain Capital, Romney, or their surrogates’ fraud and perjury because in August 2001, George W. Bush nominated another MNAT partner, Colm Connolly, as Delaware United States Attorney. Consequently, as Bain Capital’s friend, he refused to investigate and/or prosecute the confessed acts of perjury and admitted intentional crimes.


Read more: http://www.politicususa.com/public-records-reveal-romney-profited-corruption-fraud-racketeering-bain.html



UPDATE - New Thread - Breaking News II
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another story just broke on the issue that a Clerk and Judge are hiding Romney/ Bain lawsuit
until after the election (see new thread (here)).

ALSO

Democratic Underground's addressing this issue has been reported upon by
http://legalpronews.findlaw.com/article/09G19ds6Y19uQ?q=Mitt+Romney
FindLaw.com

and AlterNet has copyright permission to print full story
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/did-mitt-romney-profit-corruption-fraud-and-racketeering-bain-capital
here.

and

Mitt Romney's distant cousin - Park Romney - posted it on his website
http://www.parkromney.com/?view=headline-news&sid=X1351875812
here.




In a Nutshell

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Goldman Sachs took eToys public in 1999. At that time MNAT represented Goldman Sachs in Delaware (where eToys is formed as a company). Also in 1999, MNAT merged Mitt Romney and Bain Capital's entity - "The Learning Company" - with Mattel Toys. The stock of eToys soared above $78, but the new public entity only received around $18. This classic pump-n-dump stock scheme gave Goldman Sachs and Bain Capital the perfect opportunity. All they needed was for the MNAT law firm (that also represented the Mormon Church's claim on the Howard Hughes estate) - to LIE to the Chief Federal Justice in 2001 - and become eToys Debtor attorneys.
Then, Mitt Romney's other secret attorney (Paul Traub) lied to become the eToys Creditors attorney. Upon the success of those schemes, MNAT and Mr. Traub then put in Barry Gold as President/ CEO of eToys. Barry Gold worked for Mitt Romney and Michael Glazer at Stage Stores bankruptcy in 2000. Traub had been working with Romney/ Bain since the NeoStar case 2 decades ago. He was also at Jumbo Sports and Stage Stores with Barry Gold.


When a bribe was offered to this consultant and turned down, Mitt Romney panics and resigns as CEO of Bain Capital. Colm Connolly was a partner at MNAT from early 1999 to August 2, 2001 (the very same time Romney wants to be "retroactive" from). Former Pres GW Bush nominated Colm Connolly to be the United States Attorney in Wilmington Delaware. For his entire 7 years of tenure, Mr. Connolly buried all investigations and/ or prosecutions of Goldman Sachs and Bain Capital. This takes care of the fraud and corruption.

How it gets built up into Racketeering is also simple. MNAT, Paul Traub and Barry Gold have already confessed that the lied to a Chief federal judge 34 times over several years. But, due to the federal corruption with Colm Connolly, no prosecutions transpired. Yet, due to this pesky consultant and some eToys shareholders pushing buttons, they also had to perpetrate frauds on the California courts, the Delaware District Court, the United States 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals and the New York Supreme Court (where case 601805/2002 is placed entirely Under SEAL). Being that it is the same people, over several years, in many states, many courts and hundreds of millions (if not billions of dollars) = that equals RICO.

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 01:48 PM

1. Criminal, all the way. Thanks for posting this.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 01:53 PM

6. Your "don't believe" is so apropos

Meteor Blades from DK persuaded me to stop being a stupid sheeple.

We get so much bull it cram'd into our skulls from the boob box.

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 03:25 PM

20. Is there a problem?

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 04:54 PM

43. ???

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Response to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #43)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 05:36 PM

46. May be a meme we're unfamiliar with, Rosa. Everything going okay over there? Wet and windy here, but

Nothing like what you've been through. Hope things get better every day for all of you effected by the Perfect Storm of 2012. Or at least that's how it may go down in history.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #46)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 06:57 PM

48. I hope not - if they use the storm to take away Blue states

We would get screw'd royally....

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Response to freshwest (Reply #46)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 07:10 PM

54. Sorry - didn't mean to cause confusion

Meteor Blades is a lead writer at DailyKos

He argued with me heavily (many years ago)
and pointed out that what I was thinking
was thoughts "planted" in my skull

by verbal, repetitive, reinforced bull hit

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #54)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:03 AM

73. Hey thanks, I was thinking DK as in Dennis Kucinich and they've mocked him for saying he thought..

That he'd seen a UFO once in New Mexico, i think it was. I've seen things in the southwest that looked like UFO's too, LOL. So I was going, what is that?

I'm so glad you posted this and I hope someone who does Facebook or Twitter posts your thread to that (however it's done) and it gets more traction to affect more people. We have to not only win this election, but keep on ferreting out the guys who are doing so much harm.

Thanks again.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #73)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:26 AM

76. U R welcome and I greatly Thank YOU

It is all starting to gather REAL strength...

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #76)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:40 AM

79. +1,000!

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Response to freshwest (Reply #46)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 07:39 PM

59. Thanks

We've managed to get the tree off the garage roof! I hope we never have this type of storm again!

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:50 AM

159. Did you just put some of words in a bag and pull a bunch out to create a post?

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Response to Marrah_G (Reply #159)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:41 PM

160. You lost me

Please explain?

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #160)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:28 PM

161. lol...nevermind :)

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 01:50 PM

2. No one should ever

turn their back on Mitt Romney.
"Creepier than Nixon"
(Stills)

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Response to The Wizard (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 01:52 PM

4. Concur

This would be the 1st time our nation (knowingly) put a crook into the White House.

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #4)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 04:56 PM

44. The problem is that most voters don't know this side of Romney

we know it but the major do not

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Response to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #44)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 07:04 PM

51. I'm all for ideas Rosa..

I spoke to Ed Schultz's Producer (James) and have his cell # - NBC won't let him tell the story.

Maddow's gal is screaming to do it - to no avail.

And Taibbi did a great job (he has 159,000 FB likes thus far - his No 1 story)

Think how big it would have been if Taibbi did this as the Cover Story instead.

Just doesn't make sense that Obama's campaign is holding off on this

Wish I had the phone number to someone in charge at the Priorities USA Super PAC

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #51)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 07:36 PM

58. Isn't the Washington Post interested and the British press

How about the Guardian and the Independent UK? They should be interested

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #51)

Mon Nov 5, 2012, 01:31 PM

145. If you think Obama or the Democratic leadership will ever give this issue the time of day...

I hope I am wrong but, you are most likely going to be very disappointed when it all gets swept under the rug; excuse being America needs to heal bullshit.

At best, some high up elected criminal official will give a twisted and distorted comment (smoke and mirrors); something to the affect of...

"No man is above the law but, opening up a hornets nest of white color / political corruption would not be in the best interest of the Country or National security." Which means people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

And with one last sweep they will say, "Government has better things to do, like fixing the economy and creating jobs". Forget about how the economy got broke, and jobs were lost.

In short time, it will all be forgotten, and We the Sheepeople will get back to the business of not noticing how their being raped by the corporately owned sock-puppets we call government.

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Response to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #44)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 09:40 AM

97. he's innocent until proven guilty - glad someone wants to prosecute & I hope the evidence will prove

the guilt.

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:30 PM

107. well, actually little boots was warned by the SEC, that selling his own company stocks

could be insider trading. but since poppy's friend was head of the SEC, little boot's did it any way and didn't even get a slap on the hand. when our brave journalists questioned him, all he said was his momma in law lost money on that. i'm sure with over 848,000 dollars he could reimburse momma in law or did he basically screw her, too?

of course, i consider the whole * enterprise as corrupt. and the wealthier you are, the more you can harm others and not have any consequences for your despicable actions.

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Response to newspeak (Reply #107)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 06:17 PM

128. Please provide links on the "insider" issues?

Never know where research will take you.

I worked for over 3 years - before I found the Smoking Gun proof of perjury & fraud
that began this whole bowl of rotten cheese getting melted down.

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Response to The Wizard (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 04:29 PM

33. Never turn your back on any Republican, they're all snakes

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Response to santamargarita (Reply #33)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 06:58 PM

49. Romney and his cohorts are crooks - for sure!

Just irks me that our federal systems of justice help them soooo much.

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Response to santamargarita (Reply #33)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:14 PM

103. Exactly

I would love a real fumigation of the House

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Response to amuse bouche (Reply #103)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 06:09 PM

124. Concur - wouldn't it be wonderful - if we just handpick people by lottery

who were (not yet) corrupt

and replaced every single one of them?

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Response to The Wizard (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 04:44 PM

41. Romney and Ryan are bad news in every sense. A frightening rise of lo-some profiteers and con-men.

Republi-Con-men $$$

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Response to The Wielding Truth (Reply #41)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 07:01 PM

50. If I had some of the money back they stole from me - I'd hold a name contest.

Romney-eesiah was a good one

RMoney (can't let him win his own name jabbing)

Pitten's

Mitt Twit

Robber Romney

Bane Bain's

Yours is good too - with a twist

Republi-Con's

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #50)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 08:28 PM

63. Don't forget that he makes us want to Vo-mitt.

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Response to The Wielding Truth (Reply #63)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 10:23 PM

69. Good one - Like Mittwit - Mittologna - Mittaloney - MittPew

Mitter Pisser

Frank'n Romney

Mitt-a-roni

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Response to The Wielding Truth (Reply #63)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:51 PM

110. I like Vo-mitt. good one

I'll just call him Vomitt for short.

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Response to Auntie Bush (Reply #110)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 06:22 PM

131. It is good - but I'm already sic of him. Call we call him extinct or Mit-dicted

Something that will make me smile

(your pic - btw - is cool, but way over the top)

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Response to The Wizard (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 08:33 PM

64. no shoulder..

you really did not expect any honest dealings from Robme , did you? It would just about kill him to do anything above board , I think .

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Response to kardonb (Reply #64)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 10:25 PM

70. Yes - Mitt Romney actually said - Honor & Integrity are the principals of fools

To deal with Romney, Bain and Goldman Sachs and expect integrity

is stick you hand inside a motion sensor robotic shark

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 01:51 PM

3. I'm the original source of the information.

Reporter Rmuse took 6 weeks to verify the facts on his own - including getting documents from Public Court records.

Also, Matt Taibbi and I emailed each other the information for his Rolling Stone article "Greed and Debt"

What Rolling Stone missed by cancelling our final phone call is the fact that Michael Glazer (CEO of Kay Bee Toys)


was also at Stage Stores and eToys cases with Mitt Romney and that MNAT represents eToys (in sales to Bain)
then www.MNAT.com represents Bain in the $83 million Michael Glazer paid Bain before filing bankruptcy of Kay Bee.

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 01:54 PM

7. Thank you for everything you have done!

I particularly miss Kay Bee Toys.

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 03:28 PM

21. yes, thank you for investigating this

is there any way to get this out to a the mainstream media?

sorry -- edit to add:

I just saw your reply down-thread about Bain owning so many Clear Channel stations. I guess that explains why it'll never reach mainstream America.

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 01:52 PM

5. And guess what!

It's very likely the tip of a huge, dirty iceberg - most of which we'll probably never see.

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Response to dchill (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 01:57 PM

8. That's because Romney/ Bain own 800 stations & 120 million listeners

Clear Channel owns Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck and partners with NBC

That is why I can't get the story onto Ed Schultz or Maddow...

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 04:08 PM

27. Try TYT.

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 02:05 PM

9. Proof that he is another republican criminal.

If he did manage to get in office, we would see corruption that would surpass that of previous republican presidents.

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #9)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 03:04 PM

15. You got that right

He will make what Bush n Cheney did to U.S.

look like child's play.....

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #15)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 10:35 AM

100. eight years of the corruption

we saw with little boots and friends almost did the whole world in. when our allegedly "free press" basically gave a pass on little boot's military, drug use and alleged insider trading of his own damn company, i knew this country was in big trouble.

they needed to steal the election, especially because of cheney's halliburton (wasn't doing well) and the oily big boys. remember cheney's secret energy meetings? it's like their corrupt wealthy flim flam artist friends think the american people are all their personal marks.

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Response to newspeak (Reply #100)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 05:57 PM

120. They have no reason to stop "newspeak" - until

we get together and halt their skullduggery.

When crooks (like Romney) see they can get away with federal corruption
that is OPEN (blatant, flagrant, profuse and full of haughtier)

then they should run for POTUS

It would be the largest "BRINKS" job of all time.

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 02:29 PM

10. Welcome to DU, laserhaas!

This is MOST interesting. And not a bit surprising. You rarely rise to near-billionaire status without gaming the system, and/or putting your thumb on the scale more than a few times.

Glad you're here! Thanks for posting this and bringing it to everyone's attention. I am pleased to see that on MSNBC this morning, for example, they'd begun talking about that story about chris christie being wrongney's first choice for VP and then getting pushed aside for paul ryan. Sometimes you see stuff here first, and then see those stories pop up in the mainstream media. Not the so-called "lamestream media" which is actually Pox Noise.

We need you. This election isn't won yet.







Now get to work.



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Response to calimary (Reply #10)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 02:56 PM

12. Appreciate it - its taken 11 1/2 years to get part of this story out

If it goes viral (as it should)

Mitt Romney and Bain Capital are toast.

Of course - if he steals this race - he will never investigate himself
(or appoint anything but a Mormon/ Bain friendly U.S. Attorney General).

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #12)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 04:38 PM

37. Just one more reason to keep him as far away from our White House as possible!

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Response to calimary (Reply #37)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 04:43 PM

40. Correct 'calimary'

He will be a Robber Baron extraordinary

and his gang already knows that they can bury the story and break the Law openly.

(also, I don't expect to last long if he makes it in - Paul Traub has promised they will "get me")

Outside of fighting him - I truly do not look forward to living in a RMoney pOtUs world.

(that's piss on the U.S. when it comes to pitten's)

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 02:39 PM

11. So, Do You Expect a rePIG Supreme Court to Rule On This...Eventually?

 

"Corporations are people my friend!"

--shit dogmeat, rePIG candidate for President

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Response to triplepoint (Reply #11)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 02:58 PM

13. Currently, the DE Fed BK Court is withholding a brief from the record.

Last Wed (Oct 25, 2012) the Clerk of the Wilmington DE Fed BK Court received a brief naming Romney/ Bain.

Illegally - the Clerk has refused to put it in the record.

The reporter (Rmuse) called the Clerk and asked for her name to quote her

and she hung up on him.

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #13)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 03:53 PM

22. Thanks for this

Rmuse is fearless. He will go where others won't. Sorry you had to go through all of this.

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 03:04 PM

14. Let's see if this

makes the the tracker on Bloomberg and CNBC. Doubt it,those two are in the bag with Willard. This is killer stuff. There had been stories about behind the seen crap with the K-B bankruptcy and the massaging of various holdings. Willard is has to win in order to stay out of jail. Oh,that's right rich people don't go to jail,forgot.

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #14)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 03:07 PM

16. I think Bain may go down - if he doesn't steal the White House

Sharks love to eat shark.

Bain Capital and Sankaty combined equal a couple of hundred billion in total assets.

If the Feds do a raid on Bain Capital - when can then (finally) see what Romney is hiding in those vacant tax returns.

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 03:13 PM

17. Means nothing if it doesn't make it anywhere besides democratic based blogs and message boards.

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Response to crazy homeless guy (Reply #17)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 03:16 PM

19. Agree "c--h--g" - We put a federal brief into the court

and also sent Affidavits to New York Attorney General

Current Delaware U.S. Attorney

Delaware AG

SEC, FBI and Senators Levin, Sanders etc.

Plus - there's a brief that is filed in the Wilm DE Fed BK Court
(that the Clerk is refusing to docket)

If Romney steals this - I have plans to go one way

However,
If he loses (like he's suppose to do)
I'm going another pathway.

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 03:13 PM

18. Mitt Romney's connection to fraudster Paul Traub

Here's another story about Mitt Romney's Bain Capital BANKRUPTCY RING

the same reporter was close to nailing it back in September

http://www.politicususa.com/romney-bain-capital-bankruptcy-ring.html

Paul Traub was with NeoStar and Romney 2 decades ago.

Also in Jumbo Sports (with Barry Gold and Jack BUSH of Dallas TX)

Jack Bush was also a C0=Director with Michael Glazer at Stage Stores

they hired Barry Gold as their "directors assistant"

and he hired Paul Traub's law firm
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Then they all went into eToys and pretended to be on opposite sides of the fence
and gobbled up the public company from every side.
MNAT, Traub and Gold selling eToys to Romney/ Bain/ Glazer / Kay Bee

FOR FREE

http://www.politicususa.com/romney-bain-capital-bankruptcy-ring.html

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 03:55 PM

23. What about statutes of limitations? Is it too late to prosecute now? n/t

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #23)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 04:07 PM

26. NO - SOL not yet apropos!

1st of all - if you own your very federal prosecutor who (illegally) buries the investigations/ prosecutions;
then you can NOT claim that the statute of limitations are applicable.

2ndly - Bankruptcy Fraud statutes or exceptional - due to their finality.
Thus, it is Bankruptcy Rule 1129 that you cannot change a Chapter 11 PLAN
even for Fraud (after 180 days). However, you CAN prosecute the culprits and remove them.

Additionally, the SOL's on BK fraud do not begin until the case is closed.
They kept this case open intentionally - because it would allow me to sue them somewhere else otherwise.
(Corruption exists with this judge - but other judges would may not be willing to be so flagrant/ blatant about it)

www.MNAT.com controls Wilmington DE BK Court, District Court and has 3 people on Third Circuit Court
(including a Mormon Judge who was promoted OFF this case in 2006 - when he threatened them) (Judge KAJ Kent A Jordan)

Colm Connolly clerked for Senior 3rd Circuit Justice Walter K Stapleton (who was also an MNAT partner)

Finally, the DE BK Court, US Trustee and Third Circuit have all certified the case of In re Hazel Atlas Glass vs. Hartford Empire.
It is a U.S. Supreme Court case that has made it a precedent. If Fraud on the Court transpires by an Officer of the Court
(MNAT, Barry Gold and Paul Traub all became officers of the court and Colm Connolly as U.S. Attorney is also)

then there's NO Statute of Limitations (as insiders of the fed justice system cannot be allowed to abuse position of trust for bad faith).

Hazel Atlas the U.S. Supreme Court did RE-Open after 9 years when the attorney forged a paper to the court for a Patent.

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #26)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 04:12 PM

28. Wow. I'm stunned. Thanks for all your work on this! n/t

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #28)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 04:28 PM

32. Your are welcome - and there's MUCH more to come

more than 7 dead in this case - including 2 national biggies

they also kept their promise to destroy my career and harmed my family.

No turning back...

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #32)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 04:30 PM

34. All power to you, and I hope to see more and more of you here. n/t

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #34)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 04:39 PM

38. Thanks pnwmom

I'll try to get others to publish more of the story.

Taibbi broke my heart when he only revealed the least of it in "Greed and Debt"
told him I can forgive if Pitten's loses

But

I will not forgive if they burying of this story helps him steal the White House chair.

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #38)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 10:45 AM

102. Thank you for your bravery laserhaas.

I wonder (please) if rmoney loses will they prosecute him? What will it take for Americans to admit and stop the organized crime families that run (ruin) America and keep the peasants miserable? We have one life (as far as we know), to spend it under the rule of organized crime is to waste it. We owe it to our grandchildren to make America for and by the people...

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Response to dotymed (Reply #102)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 06:06 PM

122. All my friends and family say I'm stupid for turning down $850,000 bribe

Even my partner of 12 years (who was retired and paid off when this happened)

turned on me and stole everything else I had.

Locked myself in a hotel room and slept 18 hours a day
eating to death and gained too much

then - I said no more - and that is when I found the Smoking Gun evidence
(wonderful story for after the election - I'm negotiating with book writers now)

And they responded by going after my family.

I love them all too much to be Keiser Susse

so I swore an oath I would hang with this until they get indicted
or they get me

Wouldn't call it bravery

Just one dog they kept kicking until I was bleeding in a corner and had no where else to go

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #122)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 06:07 PM

123. I have a surprise for Romney - regardless of whether he wins or no

it is one that you are going to Love!

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #122)

Mon Nov 5, 2012, 02:38 AM

140. sending love and respect

Unfortunately(?) I would have done the same...

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Response to dotymed (Reply #140)

Mon Nov 5, 2012, 05:06 PM

146. Appreciate the honesty dotymed....

If we had more of such in the world
we wouldn't be facing this crisis.

Thanks for the well wish (i feel like I'm letting America down by not getting this done - it would have ended his career)

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #146)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 06:05 AM

156. Hopefully,

the bastard will still be prosecuted...we won!

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Response to dotymed (Reply #156)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 06:38 PM

157. Yes we did. We won the battle, now it is time to win the war.

This is so cool

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #157)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:37 AM

158. Amen



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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 03:58 PM

24. "= that equals RICO."

It would be hilarious if Mitt running for president exposed him and made him lose all of his money and landed him in jail.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #24)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 04:26 PM

31. Correct ATJ

As one of the witnesses puts it (the former Chairman of the Creditors Committee in eToys)

It would crack him up if they felt so powerful - in crushing the one guy who turned down the bribe;
that their own haughtier would be their undoing.

I tried to go back to La Jolla California and make a citizens arrest (it is legal to do so there)

But the Secret Service block me from going up the hill (I'm on the not permitted near him list)

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #31)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 05:03 PM

45. That must feel like a badge of honor.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #45)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 07:08 PM

53. Believe it or not - I'd give up my money, badge of honor and -------

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to make sure Mitt Romney doesn't get control of the White House.

Our service men and women (plus honorable public servants)
swear an Oath to defend the Constitution from enemies foreign and

DOMESTIC

There's no great (publicly known) evil to our country

than a Mitt Romney Presidency

(unless he gets arrested and Paul Ryan takes the oath of office)

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #53)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 07:22 PM

56. During Bush I had visions of Cheney being hauled away....

But then, I also had visions of Bush doing a speech at some warehouse talking about jobs and being taken in a foreign commando raid to stand trial before the International Criminal Court.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #56)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 07:33 PM

57. Most people are not aware that the GAO tried to serve a warrant on Cheney

The White House told them that if the GAO (General Accounting Office)
did not back off - they would trim their funding to nothing.

GWB was pappa and Cheney's puppet

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #57)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 07:55 PM

61. What should have done it in for him was the log book at the CIA....

That creep was going into offices to pressure them into lying.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #61)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 10:17 PM

67. Concur - Cheney and his global war for oil is criminal

He managed Bush like a Puppet

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #67)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 11:42 PM

72. Bush was like a kid in a candy store....

I think the thing that got me the most was when he was interviewed after the tailhook landing on the Lincoln and said, "They let me do it" and I was screaming about how this idiot didn't know he was the one that was supposed to be in charge.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #72)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:24 AM

75. That's weird Spitfire - Bush purportedly said

when the WTC incidents transpired

that he hit the Trifecta

Able to touch the Social Security Trust fund, go to war and change the laws all in one

(plus Rumsfeld's Sept 10, 2001 conference on $2.3 Trillion dollars missing - died as a story)

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #75)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:39 AM

78. So did Enron.

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 04:06 PM

25. *BREAKING*

Like we didn't know that?

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 04:14 PM

29. Wow

Each day I grow just a bit more terrified at the possibilities of a Romney presidency....

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Response to hopeful68 (Reply #29)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 04:35 PM

35. Not as worried as I am hopeful68

I've witnessed judges promoted OFF the case (DE Dist Ct and NY Supreme Ct)

Seen corruption at federal system of justice - including SEC, FBI, DOJ and OSC files destroyed.

The Public Corruption Task Force was shut down and career Asst U.S. Attorneys THREATENED
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/mar/20/local/me-shakeup20

They've worked very hard at covering this up.
Including the (purported) suicide of a brother of an Asst U.S. Attorney

When (IF) the DOJ ever does their job here - you will have been an early witness to Romney-geddon..

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 04:24 PM

30. It just gets worse and worse. He's a craven, lying, conning criminal.

And to think he has a shot at running the US. I shudder to think of the horrors he will bring to bolster his fortune and power. How about starting with a war so his and his cronies' defense company investments will grow.

Maybe he decides to attack women's rights to throw the tea party some red meat. He's also beholden to the likes of the Koch brothers. Wonder what they want?

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Response to Politicub (Reply #30)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 04:38 PM

36. they want to slaughter U.S.

It is sickening how billionaires all wish to become the 1st Trillionaire.

He's already promised to take down Social Security and Medicare.

Do you really think they're going to let U.S. keep those Trillion dollar trust funds?

He's promising his Re'Thug cohorts - "Help me steal this election and I'll make us all Super Rich".

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 04:43 PM

39. This has reverberations far beyond finance

Let's start with the fact the Republican Parties of the several states conspired, at a meeting held in Tampa earlier this year, to place one Willard Mitt Romney into consideration for the presidency without doing the proper due diligence. They bleat about Obama's BC, college transcripts etc., but the reality is, Mitt Romney is possibly convictable under the same statutes they use to lock up Mafia kingpins, and the Republicans ran him for president.

Next question: does Bain retain ownership of Clear Channel to keep the public from learning bad news about Bain? Vulture capitalists don't generally hold long-term. The game is to find a corporation with a low stock price, buy it, reengineer it so Wall Street likes it better and do an IPO to get rid of it. If all goes well, five years is plenty. Bain isn't doing that with Clear Channel. Why?

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #39)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 04:51 PM

42. Cause CCC is 150 million listeners indoctrinated

Spoke with NBC Producer and Mike Isikoff too - they assigned a gal to go to Minnesota
(Romney's guy Paul Traub was partners with fraudsters Marc Dreier and Ponzi Tom Petters)

They were ordered off the story - as was the Wall Street Journal reporters
(I have their home and cell numbers - they feel so ashamed)

Bain Capital is partners with NBC - that is why Ed Schultz and Maddow can't do the story
their legal GC's won't allow it.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

ADDITIONALLY;

Bain Capital and Romney own a billion $ per year in regular advertising revenue.
(they own Toys R Us, Jumbo Sports, Guitar Centers, Clear Channel, Stage Stores, Burlington Coat Factory etc etc)
Even part ownership of the Celtics and Burger King

That Billion dollars of "Regular" yearly advertising revenue is worth $5 BILLION
(because none of the others will risk those $$$ - in saying anything bad about Bain/ Romney)

Obama would have to spend $10 Billion to get the same power in Air time (etc)

Not to mention FUAX U.S. News (and Goldman Sachs is Bain Capital's partner in Fingerhut/ NY Times DealB%K etc)

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #42)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 09:17 PM

65. So knowingly criminal

So plausiblely innocent. They appear to be too religious to lie so convincingly. Do you ever wonder about the church hierarchy knowingly agreeing with each other, that all the fables and mythology surrounding the founder's story, are conscribed, but necessary to indoctrinate their people, with Joseph Smith's visions, as a true account, of God and Jesus, coming to earth to talk to Joseph Smith.

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Response to libodem (Reply #65)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 10:30 PM

71. I have to stay away from the Mormon religion issues - However

I think they are making fun of us all - with a purported Angel named Moroni

and

One of the largest organized criminal empires in the world is

The United States Trustee's (21 Temporary Police over all 1.5 million annual bankruptcy cases)

Using misnomers as the name sake is the easy way to dupe good people into trust bad men.

By saying what they are doing is a religion (especially when it is openly known lying to federal officers is okay - for the sake of Church interests)

even if the "religion" was 100% pure -

Evil men prosper by pulling the veil over our eyes in their sheep clothing

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 06:45 PM

47. Ryan claims Secretary of Commerce is not needed.

These guys are truly deranged, lying and making shit up as they go along.

Surprised, Not: Romney, Ryan Lie On Campaign Trail, Attack Obama’s Policies

“He wants to create a new ‘secretary of business,’” Ryan said. “We already have a secretary of business. It’s actually called secretary of commerce. That’s what this agency does. Let me ask you a question: Can anybody name our current secretary of commerce? You know why? We don’t have one! It’s been vacant for over four months … we don’t need another bureaucrat or another bureaucracy, we need another president.”

http://newsone.com/2071899/ryan-obama-secretary-of-business/

Oversight, it's for the little people.



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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 07:06 PM

52. Good Gawd - knew it had to be bad but this is damnation damning....

and I believe this is just a piece of a larger pie.

Thank you to everyone for working so hard to get to the truth!!

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Response to nc4bo (Reply #52)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 07:16 PM

55. Yep - Bain Capital and their cohorts are guilty of 101 + crimes and Perjury

Stuff like - 18 U.S.C. § 155 Fee Fixing

When you conspire or collude with a (purported) opposing party to rig fees or prices
It is a Scheme To Fix Fees

Plus Collusion - Conspiracy and worse


Also - most people have heard of being acessory before and after the fact - by having knowledge
That statute is 18 U.S.C. § 4 MisPrison of a Felony (miss placing the information of criminal acts)

Even Judges are forbidden (as a matter of Law) to withhold information on attorney/ trustee/ Judge crimes

18 U.S.C. § 3057(a) mandates that a Judge must report crimes of other judges to the U.S. Attorney

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 07:40 PM

60. This needs to be Tweeted

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Response to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #60)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 10:15 PM

66. I'm trying to get Obama's campaign attention

Many of OFA's are following me on Twitter

(it was OFA_PA person who asked me to give her my Twitter account)


I'm trying Hard....

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #66)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 01:17 PM

111. Great!

maybe some independent org like Moveon etc may want to put an ad out?

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Response to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #111)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 06:24 PM

132. MoveOn and Think Progress as well as Rev Jesse Jackson Sr are being contacted today

the reporter is scheduled to speak to Ed Schultz's show people Monday afternoon

and the calls to Maddow's staff have not yet been answered

But we are trying...

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #132)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 07:23 PM

137. Tweeting may be the only alternative if the MSM won't touch it

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Response to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #137)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 07:49 PM

138. We are Tweeting - FB and I'm putting everywhere I can

Problem with the story coming out Friday afternoon so Bain attorneys can't get a TRO to shut it down - is everyone else has gone home for the weekend.

Have (some) chance it will get picked up Monday morning.

Sent to to Associated Press

(we will see).

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 08:09 PM

62. Greddy scum bag belongs in jail with Maddoff.

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Response to sarcasmo (Reply #62)

Sat Nov 3, 2012, 10:18 PM

68. I can't tell you how Romney and Paul Traub are connected to Maddof

It would blow your mind to learn how all that really went down.

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:16 AM

74. Great News people - story is picking up strength

A guy called me claiming to be in one on one with Maddow's people

Also received links that it is on Alternet, Topix and an ABC affiliate in Philly

and FindLaw.com reported a different link here on DU

http://legalpronews.findlaw.com/article/09G19ds6Y19uQ?q=Mitt+Romney

with a grand effort tomorrow - we might be able to get some national to pick this up on Monday

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #74)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:43 AM

80. Please be careful

I hope you and everyone working on this are taking every precaution to protect yourselves. I am shaking just reading the information and posts here. Also, I don't believe anyone should discount the possibility that the hierarchy of his "church" is fully aware of his actions. That entity is much more a corporation than a church. I've lived in Utah long enough to know that.

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Response to UtahLib (Reply #80)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 03:05 AM

85. 7 people dead in the case already

Most are (purportedly) suicides

That is why we stay in groups and where there's many cameras around.

Don't want to distract - but there's one suicide is the the brother of an Asst U.S. Attorney
and the press has Never mentioned the fact (nor delved into the issues of national significance)

you simply WON"T believe all this

Romney is connected to Petters Ponzi (Fingerhut/ Polaroid/ Paul Traub)

and Greg Bell's partner in $1 Billion Lancelot/ SkyBell Fraud was Marty Lackner
he was the brother of Minnesota Assistant U.S. Attorney J Lackner

All main stream media said it is not true and that even if it was - the Public doesn't care


I think Petters/ Traub/ Romney having a partner in Fraud (putting money off shore)
and that partner is a brother of a MN Asst United States ATtorney is a VERY BIG Story.

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/collections/special/columns/news_cut/archive/2010/04/more_than_lost_fortunes_lie_in.shtml

Questions that should be asked

and ANSWERED

Did the 2 brothers ever discuss Petters Ponzi?
Was J Lackner ever given gifts by Marty Lackner?
Is the reason Petters got away with it for a decade - because of the Lackner deals?

Marty was in his 40's - with a wife and young kids
He was NOT under indictment
(as a matter of fact there are NO reports that his assets were ever seized)

Yet - we are suppose to believe that when his wife went out for a couple of hours
that he hung himself in the closet and left his wife/ kids - No NOTE

And - (believe it or not) - the next one that IS a murder

will totally Blow Your Mind!

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #85)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 03:07 AM

86. BTW - I feel remorse and guilt

Did NOT believe Marty Lackner's friends trying to set up our meeting

Thought Traub / Petters & Romney were trying to get me to Chicago to bury me.

then - 2 weeks later - Marty Lackner was dead.

That is why (and you'll understand this later) - I dropped informing the other widow - what was going on.
(scared she might be next - if I pressed her for what her hubby wanted me to know).

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:39 AM

77. Well, damn.

Mittens is a bigger crook than Dick Nixon was.

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Response to Lugnut (Reply #77)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 02:54 AM

84. Correct - been at it for decades -

getting stronger and sneakier - as he gets richer - making people poorer.

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 01:36 AM

81. Romney profited from corruption AND didn't pay taxes??

Geez, even Ebenezer Scrooge was at least an honest man.

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Response to Beartracks (Reply #81)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 03:09 AM

87. He has MUCH more money that he is telling the msm

That is why he never mentions Sankaty in Bermuda

the last media person we got to delve into that issue

is no longer with us.

Sankaty is more than $1 Billion and he owns it 100%

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 01:17 AM

82. That would be terrific if Rmoney running for president would...

begin to unravel all of the criminality, lies, deception, profiteering, and hatred that has been building over the past 40 years and which seems to have been accelerating since the turn of the century.

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Response to yends21012 (Reply #82)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 03:11 AM

88. concur - I still think he may steal this election

But - if he doesn't -

Goldman Sachs and Bain Capital could both get RICO indictments
and Washington DC hearings that vindicate Senator Sanders and give (Senator Elect) Elizabeth Warren
everything she says is going on - all in 1 basket

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 02:34 AM

83. KNR, laserhaas, KNR

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Response to Cha (Reply #83)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 03:12 AM

89. HUH - what is KNR?

Please enlighten me?

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #89)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 03:19 AM

90. KICK N REC..

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Response to Cha (Reply #90)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 03:24 AM

91. Thanks - I'm new to this stuff - BTW

Is there anyone here good with Youtube

I have many pictures and charts
(and even guys who made songs for me)

No microphone or camera - to do things good with

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #91)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 03:30 AM

92. Welcome to DU, laserhaas

There probably are peeps around here who are good with that. Just have to get the lay of the land and there might even be some forums where that stuff is discussed.

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 09:03 AM

93. Capitalism IS corruption, fraud, and racketeering.

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Response to Odin2005 (Reply #93)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 05:47 PM

115. I don't concur Odin2005 - we need motivation and ambition - with temperance

Communism brings corruption too

one way or another - money & power will control.

We just need to not be lax in our due diligence

in keeping them kosher.

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 09:13 AM

94. A fucking felon is running for President of the United States.

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Response to lonestarnot (Reply #94)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 09:29 AM

95. and think of all of the enablers involved who allowed/pushed it to happen! Banana Republic

accelerated on a fast track of Republican, corporate, capitalistic, fascist corruption with more layers than a Pillsbury Grands Biscuit.

....and then there are the mindless, dysfunctional Zombies with brains that have to lost all the ability to process reality who will vote for the entire shit pie while simultaneously shrieking USA!1 USA1! USA1!

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Response to nc4bo (Reply #95)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 09:32 AM

96. Stupid motherfuckers certainly don't value the freedoms they have left do they.

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Response to lonestarnot (Reply #96)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 05:51 PM

118. If we hold them accountable - they will begin to value our laws highly

especially any code or rule that might let them "escape" their culpability.

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Response to nc4bo (Reply #95)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 09:53 AM

99. if R$ wins, these enablers will be AG and on the Supreme Court

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Response to wordpix (Reply #99)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 05:54 PM

119. I would give up my money and my life to stop such from happening - "wordpix"



Everyone may recall the monk who set himself on fire

and you might have seen the story of the man (a couple of years ago)
who burned himself up in a tent in front of the court/jail

and/ or the politico who shot himself in front of the media


BUT

Most people cannot recall (or even will ever know)
the reasons they went to such extremes.

That is why I resolved myself to the fact that

They may get me - but I'm not going to do the job for them.

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Response to nc4bo (Reply #95)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 05:50 PM

117. Concur nc4bo - willful blindness, apathy and laxity are

sins of those who do not care to think things through

Thankfully - we have the web realm - so that good people can come together like this

and expose their wickedness publicly (which is what they hate)

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Response to lonestarnot (Reply #94)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 05:48 PM

116. EXACTLY!

If you could get that title (or any version thereof)
reported by AP etc -

this tool of Pitten's politico career would end Today!

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 09:52 AM

98. Democratic Party have the White House, Senate

DOJ, The states where all this stuff is buried Democrats are in Charge. the Attorney General Offices and high courts. (Del and NY.) They know ALL of this corruption of Romney and his band of thieves and people like him. Democrats are part of the same two-headed beast. Yet the Dems let the likes of darrel issa get away with all his witch hut investigating democrats. Darrel Issa could have been smacked down with one threat from any of those dems in high places of power and money yet they refuse. For that reason (like Shark Tank) I AM OUT.

1) I will vote this year for Dems, Straight ticket. I will not promise next time.
2) I will not invest my time or money for dems who doesn't fight/ or fight back like the republicans.
3) I am suspending/canceling corporate TV

I have said plenty of times that this kind of information ED, Rachael, ODonnell, Al cant touch because ALL of their bosses are repukes.
Asking why is the same reason why fox Knew's doesn't carry it.

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Response to bonniebgood (Reply #98)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:24 PM

106. I haven't watched "Current TV" for some time. Did the people there report this?

"Current TV," as you know, is owned by Al Gore.

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Response to Cal33 (Reply #106)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 06:14 PM

127. Did not know that (I don't have a TV)

But thanks for the heads up

I'll look it up tonight.

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 10:41 AM

101. I only hope that someone goes to jail

Someone big needs to be prosecuted for this in order for others to learn a lesson.

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Response to RoccoR5955 (Reply #101)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 06:02 PM

121. I said and pray for my enemies to not go to jail - but have a change of heart

I know - weakness

Marc Dreier is doing 20 years

Tom Petter 50 years

Okun 100 years

They were all involved (and 2 of them even partners) with Mitt Romney's secret attorney Paul Traub

And (believe it or not) case has some ties to Madoff
(as a matter of FACT - the story on Paul Traub was coming out by a Business Week reporter when the Madoff kid walked up and Confessed] - that, of course, killed the other (purportedly smaller) stories)
.

Paul Traub wound up with Polaroid and Fingerhut (funded by Goldman Sachs and Bain Capital0

For (Scot) Free

I think we should just (always) seize their entire assets and make them work for minimum wage the a decade
they hate that much worse than going to club fed (and using hidden monies to live like Pimps in prison)

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:17 PM

104. G.W. Bush started an illegal war, bankrupted America and abandoned his...

... chief responsibility when he abandoned New Orleans in a disaster. All impeachable offenses and at least two of these charges are prosecutable high crimes... with no investigation or prosecution. Is it any wonder that there will never be an investigation or prosecution in this either. Republicans have license to do whatever the fuck they want... even when they get caught. It's disgraceful.

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Response to mikelewis (Reply #104)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 06:12 PM

125. Concur - 'mikelewis'

I believe that we should change the Laws and make the AG of the U.S. by another method

Separate of the POTUS.

Career public servants should not be tied to political whims

What GWB, AG Gonzales and Rove (is still doing) -

is criminal.

Our DOJ should have immediately fought to stop Citizens United from ever being handled the way it has been.

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:18 PM

105. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, laserhaas.

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Response to Uncle Joe (Reply #105)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 06:12 PM

126. Thanks Uncle Joe (though I have NO idea how to "KNR" things)

I guess I learn today..

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #126)

Mon Nov 5, 2012, 09:28 AM

143. You kick a thread whenever you post on it, moving that thread to or near

the top of the forum, by responding to my post, you kicked your own thread, you can also recommend your own thread if you wish to.

At the bottom of the original post in this case "BREAKING -Public Records Reveal Romney Profited From Corruption, Fraud & Racketeering at Bain" at the top of this thread, you will see the recommend, tweet and like icons, click on recommend if you wish to recommend a thread.

I usually recommend threads if I like them, am inspired by it think it's important to know or believe the thread to be really funny.

Peace to you and welcome to D.U.

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:33 PM

108. the chickens come home to roost for Mitt

It couldn't happen to a more appropriate liar and scoundrel.

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Response to Nika (Reply #108)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 06:18 PM

129. All his wolves' are foaming at the mouth for Pitten's to get in

and then they will slaughter U.S. with wreckless abandon.

Unless we Stop Him NOW!

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Response to Nika (Reply #108)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 06:32 PM

135. not until Tues, let's hope, anyway. Good news from VA today:

I was out door knocking for O in n. VA with someone who lives in the neighborhood. We saw lots of other door knockers (and our meeting place at a priv. home was FULL of volunteers going out) and she said she's seen lots of canvassers on the streets for weeks---ALL Dems. "No one's door knocking for Romney" was what she said.

That's good news!

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Response to wordpix (Reply #135)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 06:53 PM

136. Yes and NO - it shows he doesn't care about courting voters

Yesterday - O was at several stops

Pitten's at only 1

He knows he can't win (legitimately)

That is VERY scary.

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 12:42 PM

109. I don't see what this will accomplish

He could have been prosecuted for dozens of crimes. You think THIS DoJ is going anywhere near it?

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #109)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 06:21 PM

130. No - the DOJ is embarrassed by the corruption of Colm Connolly's office. HOWEVER --

the bigger the case - the larger the fall.

I'm an amoeba against a horde of Goliath's

and (thus far) I've been throwing air bullets at them - while they have been behind a 10 foot deep steel wall

BUT

If enough of U.S. unite and cry fowl

Heads will roll.

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 01:25 PM

112. Stealing candy from babies

That's basically what killing toy stores amounts to...

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Response to PurityOfEssence (Reply #112)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 01:42 PM

113. It's like The Grinch Who Stole Christmas, except these assholes have No heart to grow.

They all need to spend a lifetime in the prisons they built. Yeah they did build that!, Of course with tax payer dollars.

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Response to adirondacker (Reply #113)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 06:28 PM

134. That is the only place we do not agree - 'adirondacker' (great moniker)

I think they should get 5 or 10 years in Prison (max)

that they should do 1 year (with psych counseling)
and forced to do public service to confess their crimes and why

monies seized should pay for it (instead of housing them in prison)

that way we can all watch them and make SURE no monies are hidden

If you see a crook on a list like sex offender -

where a White Collar Criminal is driving a BMW - you seize the car
make them pay in a way they will all HATE

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Response to PurityOfEssence (Reply #112)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 06:25 PM

133. Concur and it is much worse because our tax paid public servants

are helping them do it...

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Sun Nov 4, 2012, 05:45 PM

114. Another News BREAK coming - do I put here - or start New Thread?

Sorry - haven't been online this morning

working with some highly esteemeds who grill me (trying to get up to speed)

Another great story going to come out by same reporter...

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #114)

Mon Nov 5, 2012, 12:21 AM

139. You could always do both. Not sure about other DUers but I like everything in one place so,

you could simply edit your original subject line and add "UPDATED".


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Response to nc4bo (Reply #139)

Mon Nov 5, 2012, 04:24 AM

141. thanks --n/t

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Mon Nov 5, 2012, 08:34 AM

142. kick

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Response to lonestarnot (Reply #142)

Mon Nov 5, 2012, 05:14 PM

148. Cool action graphic - 'lonestarnot' - However

wouldn't it be better - if the front was kicking

instead of the back?

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Response to laserhaas (Reply #148)

Mon Nov 5, 2012, 08:33 PM

151. Take that up with admin. I don't control the smilies.

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Response to lonestarnot (Reply #151)

Mon Nov 5, 2012, 09:53 PM

153. ☺ - just picking on ya ---- I guess as long as a Re'thug is getting kicked out

that such is a good thing.

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Mon Nov 5, 2012, 10:19 AM

144. Yeah..

Not really breaking news. A politician did something corrupt?? Gasp!

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Response to aptsongs (Reply #144)

Mon Nov 5, 2012, 05:12 PM

147. Not quite that dramatic, try A Republican Presidential Candidate is up to his asshole in corruption.

How's that?

Pretty damn damning to me.

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Response to nc4bo (Reply #147)

Mon Nov 5, 2012, 05:25 PM

150. CONCUR greatly - "nc4bo"

Run of the mill Re'thug corruption is not the same thing

as a Presidential wannabe having documented experience in federal corruption, perjury, fraud

and Racketeering


(B4 he is able to hand pick his very own U.S. Attorney General)

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Response to aptsongs (Reply #144)

Mon Nov 5, 2012, 05:18 PM

149. Disagree - monami'

It is a story that "Broke" free

after main stream has buried it for a decade.

And it is a BIG Break - (if we can get someone to tell it nationally tonight)
because Rove is making Ohio a battleground state

which would have NO chance - if this truth were "publicly" revealed (across the nation)

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Mon Nov 5, 2012, 09:52 PM

152. UPDATE - The next News Break has transpired - Fed Ct refused Romney/ Bain litigation

A judge has the authority to dismiss something as bogus, vexatious etc.

However - what a judge (and especially a federal clerk) are forbidden to do;
is to mess with the public court docket record.

I'm starting another Thread on this - as it is connected - but also has separate (corrupt clerk/judge issues) (here)

and you can see the reporters story on PoliticusUSA.com Romney/ Bain Above the Law (here).

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Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Tue Nov 6, 2012, 01:07 PM

154. Impeachment?

Can someone clarify -- Would this result in an impeachment if R$ is elected?

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Response to fortyfeetunder (Reply #154)

Tue Nov 6, 2012, 02:16 PM

155. I don't know - I'm talking to legal scholars on that very issue today.

If he were to succeed in fleecing this election (Rove and gang are busy in Ohio today)

Would his being "arrested" - PREVENT - him from taking the oath of office in January?

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