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Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:57 PM

Ron Paul Won't Endorse Romney, Sees "Essentially No Difference"

Source: new american

"No," he said, plainly and unequivocally, when asked about an endorsement. Neither the GOP challenger nor President Obama will change the course of fiscal and monetary policy that is leading to what has been called the "fiscal cliff," Paul said, because both are captive of special interests. And neither will act to stop the Federal Reserve from papering over the growing chasm of debt by inflating the money supply in a policy called "quantitative easing."

The elder Paul, a 77-year-old retired obstetrician, is leaving Congress at the end of this year, having decided not to run for another term. Though a Republican throughout his career, he bolted the GOP to run as the presidential candidate of the Libertarian Party in 1988, drawing less than one percent of the popular vote. In an interview on the Fox Business channel last week, he hinted he might vote this year for the Libertarian Party candidate for president, Gary Johnson, the former two-term governor of New Mexico.

"There are other people who are technically capable of winning because they're on a lot of ballots," Paul said about alternatives to Romney or Obama.

"Like Gary Johnson, for example," the interviewer suggested.

"Yeah," Paul replied, though he did not say whether he would endorse or vote for Johnson

Read more: http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/13191-ron-paul-wont-endorse-romney-sees-essentially-no-difference



i remember during the primary Ron Paul at one point stopped attacking Romney and kept going after his opponents. i think Romney may have lied and said he would make Rand Paul his VP running mate. notice Rand Paul has started to go after romney now also when during the Primary he was more supportive.

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Reply Ron Paul Won't Endorse Romney, Sees "Essentially No Difference" (Original post)
JI7 Oct 2012 OP
abelenkpe Oct 2012 #1
tarheelsunc Oct 2012 #2
Indpndnt Oct 2012 #10
SunSeeker Oct 2012 #14
Indpndnt Oct 2012 #17
SunSeeker Oct 2012 #19
sweetloukillbot Oct 2012 #26
Joe Bacon Oct 2012 #31
abelenkpe Oct 2012 #34
SoapBox Oct 2012 #3
pipoman Oct 2012 #4
abelenkpe Oct 2012 #35
graham4anything Oct 2012 #20
arely staircase Oct 2012 #22
graham4anything Oct 2012 #29
DallasNE Oct 2012 #5
grantcart Oct 2012 #23
nolabear Oct 2012 #6
tavalon Oct 2012 #7
cstanleytech Oct 2012 #15
D23MIURG23 Oct 2012 #8
freshwest Oct 2012 #11
onehandle Oct 2012 #9
freshwest Oct 2012 #12
nxylas Oct 2012 #24
Ash_F Oct 2012 #13
SunSeeker Oct 2012 #18
johnlucas Oct 2012 #16
SunSeeker Oct 2012 #21
johnlucas Oct 2012 #25
Ter Oct 2012 #30
Live and Learn Oct 2012 #27
sendero Oct 2012 #28
justiceischeap Oct 2012 #32
wordpix Oct 2012 #33
MurrayDelph Oct 2012 #36
alp227 Oct 2012 #37
Captain_truthteller Oct 2012 #38
Stargleamer Oct 2012 #39

Response to JI7 (Original post)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 12:08 AM

1. Ron Paul is a nutcase.

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Response to abelenkpe (Reply #1)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 12:20 AM

2. He's also a nutcase with a near-cultlike following

His endorsement alone could have turned thousands to Romney, now they'll probably go with Johnson instead.

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Response to tarheelsunc (Reply #2)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 01:10 AM

10. Good! Let them follow their little Pied Piper all the way to Johnson's camp.

And vote for him in huge waves.

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Response to Indpndnt (Reply #10)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 01:28 AM

14. I've seen more Johnson than Romney bumper stickers. Of course, there's TONS of Obama stickers.

But I'm talking about very blue So. Cal.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #14)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 01:31 AM

17. Really?! I've never seen a Johnson sticker. Or sign. I didn't even know he had any and I'm in TX.

Good to know! Thanks!

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Response to Indpndnt (Reply #17)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 01:36 AM

19. The Johson stickers look very new.

I just started seeing them about a week ago. There are a lot of Paul-bots in So. Cal. I'm guessing they had a meeting and passed out the stickers after bitching about how the Republicans screwed Paul at the Convention.

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Response to Indpndnt (Reply #17)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 05:45 AM

26. Haven't seen stickers but signs all over the place in Phoenix...

They're blanketed in the same way Paultard signs were - I expect it's the work of the same people.

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Response to sweetloukillbot (Reply #26)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 09:12 AM

31. I've seen Gary Johnson signs in Los Angeles.

Johnson lawn signs are on the same houses that had Ron Paul signs up during the primary.

I've seen NO Romney lawn signs, and very few Romney bumper stickers.

But what I really see are a lot of NO on 32 signs all over the place, which makes me hopeful that the Koch Brothers and Rove get their asses kicked real good. 32 would stop unions from contributing to political campaigns.

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Response to tarheelsunc (Reply #2)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 10:53 AM

34. True

Honestly Ron Paul fanatics scare the crap out of me. If they ever gain control kiss civil rights and women's rights goodbye. This country will become a fascist corporate monstrosity that sane people will flee.

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Response to abelenkpe (Reply #1)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 12:21 AM

3. Ditto...

And a freeloading freak, that sucks money off of the thing he rails against all the time...government.

This loon job weirdo has been drinking at the Public Trough since around 1977.

GO away, Vulture.

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Response to abelenkpe (Reply #1)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 12:23 AM

4. I don't agree with much of Paul's line..

the whole nut thing is applied by the media at the behest of those who have purchased detrimental policy..That policy which is strangely part of both parties/candidates..there will never be needed dramatic, in fact revolutionary change as long as people keep eating from the spoon of these bandits.

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Response to pipoman (Reply #4)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 11:12 AM

35. He's seen as a nut for good reason

My sister is a huge Ron Paul fan. She will write him in. Curious as to why he held my sisters admiration I researched all I could about his past and his positions. He is fucking insane. A bigoted cynical bastard who profits off of spreading fear and hate. His policies would not bring a revolution they would hand power completely to corporations. Civil rights and womens rights would be a thing of the past. Ron Paul and his followers are dangerously insane. I think people who follow him are attracted by his statements about ending the wars, the war on drugs and investigating the fed (all good things) and don't look any deeper.
We don't need Ron Paul to end the wars or bring about economic justice. We don't need him to bring about change. It would be like making a deal with the devil, change would come but most would suffer if his policies were really enacted.

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Response to abelenkpe (Reply #1)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 01:39 AM

20. +1gadazillion million trillion zillion zillion (republibertarianteaparty funny numbers)

 

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Response to abelenkpe (Reply #1)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 02:57 AM

22. who can hurt romney bad in this close election

eom

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #22)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 06:35 AM

29. of course he wants his neo-son to be president in 2016, GOD FORBID.

 

but it won't happen anyhow.

You know, sometimes I think Ron and Rand are tools of the Bush's as it seems everything they do helped the Bush's in an odd sort of way. He is going to help clear the deck for Jeb to attempt a coup in 2016 after Herr Mittens/Boy Glove are totally repudiated.

BTW-I am a major fan of LBJ.(who used his capital when he had it to do what no one did before with civil rights)...I see he is your avitar picture.

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Response to JI7 (Original post)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 12:28 AM

5. I Don't See This Making Any Difference

Paul only did well in States that didn't have an actual primary. I don't believe he ever got into double digits is any primary State. Unless a State is closer than 5,000 votes this won't make any difference.

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Response to DallasNE (Reply #5)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 03:10 AM

23. Yes it will. In Nevada Paul supporters have taken over the state party and have not

assisted Romney at all who has had to spend money and time to mount a state organization.

In Nevada Paul is on the ballot, albeit it is under the category "none of the above".

Republicans tried to get this Nevada tradition removed but lost.

Polls show the President ahead in Nevada by about 2 points.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/nv/nevada_romney_vs_obama-1908.html

It is likely that if Paul had openly supported and campaigned for Romney in Nevada Romney could have won.

Romney needs every electoral vote he can get and losing Nevada with its high percentage of Mormon voters will push his chances even further out of reach.

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Response to JI7 (Original post)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 12:29 AM

6. Well, that's good. Geesh, what an election.

It's Obama against multiple raging cultists. No wonder Zombie Apocalypse stuff is so popular.

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Response to JI7 (Original post)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 12:34 AM

7. Essentially no difference?

Hmmm, bad vision.

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Response to tavalon (Reply #7)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 01:29 AM

15. Its called tunnel vision and alot of republicans and tea party people (same thing really)

suffer from it and they refuse to place most of blame (about 99% of it) where it really belongs which is with the republican and tea party folks currently in office in congress.

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Response to JI7 (Original post)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 12:38 AM

8. I hate this fucking "no difference" meme

I actually liked Paul at one point. Its been a sad process slowly learning that he is a senile lunatic with his head shoved up Ayn Rand's ass.

So as much as I hate the "no difference meme" hearing it from someone who doesn't support the civil rights act, and wants to go to the gold standard because that is what some character in "atlas shrugged" wanted, is actually kind of comforting. Goodbye Ron Paul and Good riddance.

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Response to D23MIURG23 (Reply #8)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 01:14 AM

11. +1

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Response to JI7 (Original post)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 01:02 AM

9. Loon. Loon son. nt

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Response to JI7 (Original post)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 01:15 AM

12. Just for the record, Fuck Ron Paul and all his followers.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #12)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 03:58 AM

24. Don't knock him

He's potentially depressing Romney's turnout here.

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Response to JI7 (Original post)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 01:20 AM

13. All above and yet he supports the drawdown of runaway military spending and marijuana legalization

Oh libertarians...a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma.

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Response to Ash_F (Reply #13)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 01:31 AM

18. "Libertarians are conservatives who like to smoke pot."

I believe Thom Hartmann said that...or was it Bill Maher?

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Response to JI7 (Original post)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 01:30 AM

16. With the exception of his racist newsletters, Ron Paul surely is consistent, I'll say that much.

I knew Mitt Romney would screw the Ron Paul fans at the convention & now he's paying the dividends.
You don't piss off the Ron Paul acolytes! Hahahahaha!
Ron Paul lied about his involvement with his racist newsletters but outside of that this guy IS pretty damn consistent.
He didn't like Romney in the primaries & he doesn't pretend to like him now.
Give the man credit for that much at least.

Ron Paul's very existence in this race is why I KNEW Obama would win in a Landslide.
John Lucas

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Response to johnlucas (Reply #16)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 01:46 AM

21. What's consistent about being a Libertarian while telling women they can't control their bodies?

Paul is one heinously anti-choice teapublican. How he squares that with Libertarian principles is beyond me.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #21)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 05:38 AM

25. Libertarians are just old school Republicans.

At least he wasn't once for women controlling their bodies & changed later after the fact like Romney.
He may be consistently wrong but he IS consistent.

He's a paleo-conservative which is a nice way of calling him a fossil. (see? I made the connection between 'paleo' and nevermind)

The only thing he flip-flopped on was his authorship & approval of his racist newsletters.
THAT he flip-flopped on.
I'm not sure why given the base of supporters that follow him but that's the choice he made.
He might have gotten a bigger following & actually won some states that way.
Took some votes away from Romney & the other candidates.
Oh well, hindsight is 20/20.
John Lucas

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #21)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 08:31 AM

30. Libertarians are divided on that issue

 

However, nearly all oppose Roe vs. Wade.

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Response to JI7 (Original post)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 06:00 AM

27. Ron Paul was blinded?

Wow, sorry to hear that. Couldn't he try hearing the difference still? I'm sorry, but the differences between Obama and Romney should be obvious to anyone with either senses still intact. In fact, the smell test tells me that Romney stinks to high heaven, so make that three senses that should be able to tell the difference.

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Response to JI7 (Original post)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 06:03 AM

28. Depends..

.. on whether you are talking about Primary Romney or Debate Romney.

In the case of the latter, I more or less agree.

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Response to JI7 (Original post)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 10:00 AM

32. I still contend that a lot of Repubs will vote for 3rd party candidates or write-ins

RMoney is a hard sell for a lot of Repubs. I see Ron Paul and Gary Johnson getting more votes than you'd normally see.

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Response to JI7 (Original post)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 10:06 AM

33. here's hoping lots of R's think the same way & vote Johnson or no one

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Response to JI7 (Original post)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 11:38 AM

36. Can I just cut and paste my old Ralph Nader responses?

When you get someone who is only thinking one dimensionally, all you can tell is that the others are way over there.

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Response to JI7 (Original post)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 02:45 PM

37. New American =John Birch Society publication.

Just so you know, and yes JBS still exists.

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Response to JI7 (Original post)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 04:32 PM

38. Paul is ok

 

I like him on foreign policy, but he knows nothing about the economy.
It was a good move not to endorse Romney, though.

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Response to JI7 (Original post)

Sun Oct 14, 2012, 10:11 PM

39. A stance that reminds me of Ralph Nader n/t

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