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Mon Oct 1, 2012, 11:24 PM

Irreversible Warming Will Cause Sea Levels to Rise for Thousands of Years to Come, New Research Show

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Source: Science Daily

Irreversible Warming Will Cause Sea Levels to Rise for Thousands of Years to Come, New Research Shows

ScienceDaily (Oct. 2, 2012) — Greenhouse gas emissions up to now have triggered an irreversible warming of Earth that will cause sea levels to rise for thousands of years to come, new research has shown.

The results come from a study, published today (Oct. 2) in IOP Publishing's journal Environmental Research Letters, which sought to model sea-level changes over millennial timescales, taking into account all of Earth's land ice and the warming of the oceans -- something which has not been done before.

The research showed that we have already committed ourselves to a sea-level rise of 1.1 metres by the year 3000 as a result of our greenhouse gas emissions up to now. This irreversible damage could be worse, depending on the route we take to mitigating our emissions.

If we were to follow the high A2 emissions scenario adopted by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), a sea-level rise of 6.8 metres could be expected in the next thousand years. The two other IPCC scenarios analysed by the researchers, the B1 and A1B scenarios, yielded sea-level rises of 2.1 and 4.1 metres respectively.

Read more: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/10/121001191531.htm

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Reply Irreversible Warming Will Cause Sea Levels to Rise for Thousands of Years to Come, New Research Show (Original post)
Hissyspit Oct 2012 OP
slackmaster Oct 2012 #1
kooljerk666 Oct 2012 #10
slackmaster Oct 2012 #11
kooljerk666 Oct 2012 #29
aletier_v Oct 2012 #2
slackmaster Oct 2012 #3
aletier_v Oct 2012 #6
Delphinus Oct 2012 #32
Uncle Joe Oct 2012 #4
nebenaube Oct 2012 #5
CheapShotArtist Oct 2012 #7
lobodons Oct 2012 #8
AndyTiedye Oct 2012 #18
olddad56 Oct 2012 #9
bemildred Oct 2012 #12
closeupready Oct 2012 #13
slackmaster Oct 2012 #15
closeupready Oct 2012 #17
truthisfreedom Oct 2012 #14
AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #25
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XemaSab Oct 2012 #33
Silent3 Oct 2012 #16
AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #22
AntiFascist Oct 2012 #19
JRLeft Oct 2012 #20
slackmaster Oct 2012 #21
AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #24
AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #23
Mnpaul Oct 2012 #26
BlackGuero Oct 2012 #27
Duppers Oct 2012 #28
cbayer Oct 2012 #30
Sunlei Oct 2012 #31
slackmaster Oct 2012 #34
Sunlei Oct 2012 #35

Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2012, 11:29 PM

1. Mr. President, I would not rule out the chance to preserve a nucleus of human specimens.

 

It would be quite easy at the bottom of some of our deeper mine shafts. The climate disaster would never penetrate a mine some thousands of feet deep. And in a matter of weeks, sufficient improvements in dwelling space could easily be provided.

It would not be difficult Mr. President. Nuclear reactors could provide power almost indefinitely. Greenhouses could maintain plant life. Animals could be bred and slaughtered. A quick survey would have to be made of all the available mine sites in the country. But I would guess that dwelling space for several hundred thousands of our people could easily be provided.

A computer could be set and programmed to accept factors from youth, health, sexual fertility, intelligence, and a cross section of necessary skills. Of course it would be absolutely vital that our top government and military men be included to foster and impart the required principles of leadership and tradition. Naturally, they would breed prodigiously. There would be much time, and little to do. But ah with the proper breeding techniques and a ratio of say, ten females to each male, I would guess that they could then work their way back to the present gross national product within say, twenty years.

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 2, 2012, 09:45 AM

10. Gentlemen, we have a mine shaft gap!!!

 

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Response to kooljerk666 (Reply #10)

Tue Oct 2, 2012, 09:53 AM

11. Mein Führer... I CAN WALK!

 

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #11)

Wed Oct 3, 2012, 08:13 AM

29. We'll Meet again................

 

I thought about a reply for a day or so & this was the most appropriate....



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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2012, 11:35 PM

2. THX 1138

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066434/

"The human race has been relocated to a underground city located beneath the Earth's surface. In the underground city, the population are entertained by holographic TV which broadcasts sex and violence and robotic police force enforces the law. In the underground city, society controls all life, all citizens are drugged to control their emotions and their behavior and sex is a crime."

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Response to aletier_v (Reply #2)

Mon Oct 1, 2012, 11:38 PM

3. Drug Evasion was one of the highest crimes in THX 1138's dystopian future

 

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #3)

Mon Oct 1, 2012, 11:56 PM

6. In the future, people will beg for hallucinogens

to block reality.

look at how much it happens today and we still have dry land.

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Response to aletier_v (Reply #6)

Wed Oct 3, 2012, 12:17 PM

32. Boy,

do you have *that* right!

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2012, 11:39 PM

4. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, Hissyspit.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2012, 11:43 PM

5. funny...

 

All the other models predict much greater sea level rise much, much sooner.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Tue Oct 2, 2012, 12:51 AM

7. The wingnuts aren't worried.

They're so rich that they can afford air conditioners. And they probably think if the weather gets too unbearable, they can either relocate to Mars or the Moon.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Tue Oct 2, 2012, 12:52 AM

8. Proof!!

Proof that the GOP wants California to dissapear under the sea.

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Response to lobodons (Reply #8)

Tue Oct 2, 2012, 04:10 PM

18. California Has Mountains

Florida would be the first to go.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Tue Oct 2, 2012, 01:26 AM

9. oh, don't give me that global warming crap.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Tue Oct 2, 2012, 10:00 AM

12. We might have done something 50 years ago. nt

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Tue Oct 2, 2012, 10:39 AM

13. Fossil fuels will be consumed until they are fully consumed.

And global warming will accelerate exponentially.

That doesn't necessarily mean the end of the world, but does mean we are fucking up the planet.

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Response to closeupready (Reply #13)

Tue Oct 2, 2012, 10:59 AM

15. No. Fossil fuels will be consumed until they are no longer economically viable compared to some...

 

...other energy source.

I believe that will be a long, LONG time before they are fully consumed. There is a whole lot of coal in the ground.

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #15)

Tue Oct 2, 2012, 11:13 AM

17. I do hope you are correct on that, and I am wrong.

I really, really do.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Tue Oct 2, 2012, 10:45 AM

14. I'm not so sure. Every time we estimate how fast things are happening, a year later we discover it

is happening twice as fast as we thought. I think we'll be under 1.1 meters of new water by 2040 or sooner.

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Response to truthisfreedom (Reply #14)

Wed Oct 3, 2012, 01:32 AM

25. I'm predicting something on the order of anywhere from 25-50 feet by 2100.

Though, A big part of the overall problem, I gotta say, has likely just been sheer shitty luck, probability wise.

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Response to truthisfreedom (Reply #14)

Wed Oct 3, 2012, 12:26 PM

33. .

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Tue Oct 2, 2012, 11:12 AM

16. If our species survives until the year 3000...

...without a massive die-off in the interim, by then we'll have the technology to regulate the planet's temperature with things like orbiting reflectors, or with technology we can't even imagine now.

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Response to Silent3 (Reply #16)

Wed Oct 3, 2012, 01:26 AM

22. Oh, we'll survive alright.

Whether or not America's still around, as we know it, may be questionable, though.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Tue Oct 2, 2012, 04:20 PM

19. Maybe the cost of living in Manhattan will drop...

might as well look on the bright side.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Tue Oct 2, 2012, 05:16 PM

20. It is only going to get worse, China won't reverse its course and neither will corporations. In

other words we are fucked.

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Response to JRLeft (Reply #20)

Tue Oct 2, 2012, 05:18 PM

21. China and India are going to do nothing but increase fossil fuel production for decades

 

The US is no longer the number one carbon liberator.

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #21)

Wed Oct 3, 2012, 01:30 AM

24. Neither of these two countries can keep the current course, either.

China is likely to implode in a couple decades and India may very well face boycotts by much of the rest of the world if New Delhi decides to go full-bore with carbon production. And if that happens, India's economy would freefall and they'd be facing a revolution within weeks, maybe a few months if they're lucky.

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Response to JRLeft (Reply #20)

Wed Oct 3, 2012, 01:28 AM

23. I seriously doubt China will still be here in another 2 decades.

I gotta be honest; that bubble is going to burst. And when it does, you can kiss China good-bye, and it will revert back to third-world status; only question is, "For how long"?

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2012, 01:34 AM

26. I just got done watching Carbon Nation

over at Snag Films and was surprised at the number of simple solutions there were. Interesting flick you can watch for free. What really surprised me was the output comparison o biofuels. Off one acre we can get 28 gallons of fuel from corn, 500-800 gallons from palm trees(palm oil) and 4000 gallons from algae(one acre pond).

http://www.snagfilms.com/films/title/carbon_nation

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2012, 01:58 AM

27. The Elephant in the room.

Irreversible is such a concrete word for a low information, rapture ready voter to wrap their head around. Hate to say it, but it will take a mega natural disaster for some people to start treating our natural world like we would treat our own family.

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Response to BlackGuero (Reply #27)

Wed Oct 3, 2012, 05:49 AM

28. well put.

thanks.

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Response to BlackGuero (Reply #27)

Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:56 AM

30. Welcome to DU, BlackGuero. Great point.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Wed Oct 3, 2012, 12:03 PM

31. We can use the seas to our advantage in many ways.

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Response to Sunlei (Reply #31)

Wed Oct 3, 2012, 12:38 PM

34. Yes, a rising tide floods all coastal communities

 

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #34)

Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:35 PM

35. of course and we won't be able to hold rising waters back

What I mean is we must build up all coastal areas above the flood zones. People have to build for hurricanes and floods. We can't just wall off part of a seawall as it moves the flooding to the sides of a seawall.

Places like the panhandle of Florida and the mississippi river should be wide open water transportation routes. The panhandle between the Gulf and the Atlantic ocean, Mississippi from the Gulf to the NW passage.

The panhandle is going to totally flood over anyway with a major hurricane. The Mississippi is going dry and wants to reverse anyway. Opening these water routes would midagate a lot of coastal storm surge, gives water a place to move.

I would LOVE to take a waterjet from Texas to Canada

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