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Fri Sep 28, 2012, 10:10 AM

Tea party hero changes tune to woo Ind. moderates

Source: Yahoo News

INDIANAPOLIS (AP) Richard Mourdock became one of the tea party's biggest winners of the 2012 primary season when he knocked off veteran Indiana Sen. Richard Lugar in a brutal campaign built on his contention that Lugar was too old, too out of touch and too friendly with Democrats a RINO, Republican in name only.

But the movement's biggest RINO hunter is now changing his tune as he tries to woo moderate voters in a tight race that stands as a key test of the tea party's ability to win outside the nation's most conservative states.

Mourdock is matched in the general election against moderate Democratic Rep. Joe Donnelly, who is running even in recent polls despite Indiana's Republican tilt. Suddenly, gone is the strident rhetoric in which Mourdock proclaimed that bipartisanship meant Democrats coming over to Republicans' thinking and that winning meant he would "inflict my opinion on someone else." In its place are support for parts of President Barack Obama's health care overhaul, pledges to protect Democratic-championed programs like Social Security and Medicare, and even the once-shunned notion of compromise.

Welcome to "Extreme Makeover: Mourdock Edition."

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/tea-party-hero-changes-tune-woo-ind-moderates-070632002--election.html



Tea Party brand is now toxic as nuclear waste.

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Reply Tea party hero changes tune to woo Ind. moderates (Original post)
Suji to Seoul Sep 2012 OP
efhmc Sep 2012 #1
INdemo Sep 2012 #2
Panasonic Sep 2012 #3
CindyinIndy Sep 2012 #4
LittleGirl Sep 2012 #8
charliea Sep 2012 #11
kas125 Sep 2012 #19
dotymed Sep 2012 #5
donqpublic Sep 2012 #6
LittleGirl Sep 2012 #7
kas125 Sep 2012 #20
louis-t Sep 2012 #9
toby jo Sep 2012 #10
julian09 Sep 2012 #12
Doctor_J Sep 2012 #21
annabanana Sep 2012 #13
LittleGirl Sep 2012 #14
Iliyah Sep 2012 #15
alp227 Sep 2012 #16
DissidentVoice Sep 2012 #17
randome Sep 2012 #18
Mutt22 Sep 2012 #22
graegoyle Sep 2012 #23
Mutt22 Sep 2012 #25
Suji to Seoul Sep 2012 #30
DissidentVoice Sep 2012 #27
grantcart Sep 2012 #24
Dawson Leery Sep 2012 #26
DissidentVoice Sep 2012 #28
Auntie Bush Sep 2012 #29
pampango Sep 2012 #32
the_tealiban Sep 2012 #31
sendero Sep 2012 #33

Response to Suji to Seoul (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 10:23 AM

1. Sure hope it doesn't work.

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Response to efhmc (Reply #1)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 10:42 AM

2. There are a lot of Teabagger crazies..

but moderate Republican could vote for Donnelly...They are still bitter that Murdouch defeated their man Lugar.And Donnelly is from the Democratic stronghold area of the state.

Note: It could be possible for Indiana to turn blue again giving Donnelly the "coattail" votes.

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Response to efhmc (Reply #1)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 10:42 AM

3. I'd rather see Mourdock lose..

 

Donnelly is doing the right things, and it's now become a tight race. Obama should consider including Indiana and Arizona to help the downticket races.. Prez O will need all the help he can get.

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Response to Suji to Seoul (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 10:43 AM

4. Snaggle-tooth ass hole!

Makes me ashamed to be a Hoosier! Don't get me started on Mike Pence.

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Response to CindyinIndy (Reply #4)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 10:59 AM

8. Indeed. eom

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Response to CindyinIndy (Reply #4)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 11:23 AM

11. Ditto

Unfortunately true, I'm saddened by what's happening in my home state. It keeps reinforcing the joke I've made since I moved away. "Indiana; a great place to be from". I remember when Lugar was the mayor. Nixon created the EPA and the first director was from Indiana, and people applauded him and the agency. I remember being excited that we were going to make sure the water and air stayed clean! <*sigh*>

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Response to CindyinIndy (Reply #4)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 12:24 PM

19. Pence makes my skin crawl. I live up in the blue corner of the state, but there are

a few crazy teabaggers up here, too. The thought of Mourdock being our senator and Pence being our governor makes me seriously afraid. I was disgusted that we elected Daniels, but Pence could do even worse things!

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Response to Suji to Seoul (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 10:46 AM

5. Tea partiers are toxic and I am glad that Americans are noticing.

Indiana was actually one of the first teaparty take-overs. Mitch Daniels became Governor there about 8 years ago. His first official act was to force all state employees to quit the Union. These neo-cons had a field day..That was before Walker in WI and Kassich in OH. Mitch (bush II's ex-budget director) bought his way into office and destroyed a former great, Union State. Damn, I guess that was in 2000. He never received the kind of attention that Walker, Kassich, et al. did. He did take a great state and destroy it without much opposition. He rented toll roads to foreign countries with 75 year leases... Lugar was not a RHINO. He was pure rethug. I hope that the nation learns more of the plight of Indiana and helps to turn it around...

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Response to Suji to Seoul (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 10:47 AM

6. Another Teaparty HINO

Human in name only.

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Response to Suji to Seoul (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 10:58 AM

7. the ads are actually funny

the current Lt. Gov is touting his compromising ways - yeah right. It's all hog wash.

Not all Hoosier are racist hillbillies but you get out of the major cities and it's pure Obama hatred from Rush listening and Fox spews watchers. NW Indiana (near Chicago) turned Indiana Blue in 08 and if that continues, we will have another Obama victory in this state.

I follow a "former" Republican professor from Indiana University and she blogs daily about how the republicans are out of their freaking minds in this state. She says the republican party left her behind and not the other way around. Mourdock realized how his "I'm not going to compromise for Dems" cost him some conservative votes. Joe Donnelly is from the area around Notre Dame that is rather moderate so he has a good chance of moving from the House to the Senate which was will be a huge changeover from Lugar's position. The PAC ads against Donnelly are that he is an Obama lackey which feeds their talking points with the lie about cutting 700 billion from Medicare.

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Response to LittleGirl (Reply #7)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 12:25 PM

20. I don't get to see ads for Indiana politicians, even though I live here. Our tv

stations are from Chicago so we see Illinois political ads.

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Response to Suji to Seoul (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 11:07 AM

9. Richard "Mr. Bean" Mourdock.

Except he's not funny.

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Response to Suji to Seoul (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 11:15 AM

10. Indy sounds like Ohio - you get outback and it gets stupid. But I like the fact

that he's changing his tune, dancing to what the people demand instead of what he chooses to feed them. That's a pretty good shift in awareness if it holds.

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Response to toby jo (Reply #10)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 11:46 AM

12. He will act and vote as he always has, once in office, don't be taken in by last minute conversion.

 

Six years is along time to regret your vote, if you can't compromise and can only obstruct, you shouldn't be in office.
That has been the reason for congress single digit approval. The other guy will meet you more than half way, forget labels vote your interests.

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Response to toby jo (Reply #10)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 12:33 PM

21. It's usually called pandering, or lying

"shift in awareness" sounds like something his PR might try to fly. I don't see anyone except GlenBeckistan falling for it.

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Response to Suji to Seoul (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 11:49 AM

13. Can I assume the Dems are hanging him with his own rhetoric?

I sure hope so.

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Response to annabanana (Reply #13)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 11:55 AM

14. I don't think the Dems have as much money...eom

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Response to Suji to Seoul (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 11:55 AM

15. This is a man who wants a one party system.

GOP as the only party running the country and if there are a few Dems or Indies, Green or Libertarian they MUST conform to the GOP way of thinking. That alone would stop me from voting for Mourdock. I think Donnelly will squeak it out!

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Response to Suji to Seoul (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 11:56 AM

16. LOL, going moderate means lose the base.

I think candidates win more by distinguishing themselves from their rivals. Expect the Indiana TPers to stay home in disgust.

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Response to Suji to Seoul (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 11:59 AM

17. There are moderates in Indiana?

Just joking, but only in part.

I was born and raised in Indiana (South Bend area) but moved to Michigan in '07 and don't regret it a bit.

There are more moderate-to-liberal types in the big cities (Indy, Gary, Fort Wayne) and university hubs (South Bend, Lafayette, Terre Haute) but out in the rural areas it's much more like the Deep South than a Great Lakes state. There used to be a major KKK training camp in rural St. Joseph County in northern Indiana, but I don't know if it's still there or not.

The first "Rush Room" in the country was in Mishawaka. A lot of people in Indiana vote straight Republican even if they don't know who the candidates are, "because my daddy and grand-daddy did."

I actually have a lot of respect for Richard Lugar. We corresponded quite a bit, and disagreed on a lot of things (especially health care) but he was always very cordial to me. He would tell me "intelligent, reasonable people can agree to disagree, and I am still your Senator and you are still one of my constituents."

I was a bit shocked that Mourdock defeated Lugar...shows what happens when the Koch Brothers and Grover Norquist control a party.

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Response to Suji to Seoul (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 12:15 PM

18. It's like 'Land of the Dead'.

The zombies who have survived long enough are starting to THINK! We're doomed!

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Response to Suji to Seoul (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 12:41 PM

22. People's stereo types of Hoosiers

Are pissing me off here. I live outside of Bloomington and know quite a few Democrats. I don't know where the fuck some of you get off claiming Indiana is a backwards ass and racist outside of certain areas. It is this kind bullshit that turns people away from forums like this. There are no more racist areas in Indiana than any other state in the Midwest.

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Response to Mutt22 (Reply #22)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 01:02 PM

23. This is the internet;

people speak in broad generalities, not necessarily stereotypes.

" There are no more racist areas in Indiana than any other state in the Midwest."

That's still a lot of racism.

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Response to graegoyle (Reply #23)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 01:46 PM

25. And those generalizations turn people away.

And that was to imply that there is no call to make Indiana seem like we're strying up all non-whites for our Saturday night fun.

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Response to Mutt22 (Reply #25)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 10:34 PM

30. Fight fire with fire. They want to control the debate, fine.

I have three names about Indiana and that's all I need to describe Indiana.

Dan Quayle
Mike Pence
Mitch Daniels

I'm from Arizona. Have fun stereotyping Arizona. I do all the time. It's a state populated by morons that vote for Arpaio, Brewer, Bennett, Horne and every other wasted, crusted piece of Republican shit, except in three counties.

You don't like the perception of Indiana. . .don't castigate us. WORK to CHANGE the perception.

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Response to Mutt22 (Reply #22)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 06:53 PM

27. Jet back...

I'm from metro South Bend originally but I moved to Michigan in '07. If I stereotype Hoosiers I stereotype myself since I'm a born Hoosier.

My wife is from Brazil, near Terre Haute.

South Bend disproves most of the Hoosier stereotypes (Notre Dame), as does Bloomington (IU). My aunt worked in the IU library back in the '70s.

Brazil affirms most of the stereotypes. During the eight years of hell I lived there it struck me as a cross between "Deliverance" and "Footloose."

As for Terre Haute...just as long as I don't have to be downwind of it!

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Response to Suji to Seoul (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 01:16 PM

24. that ship has sailed

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Response to Suji to Seoul (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 02:08 PM

26. He is pandering.

After Obama won Indiana in 2008, the state is no longer "dark red".
The teaklan brand is toxic and Mourdock knows this.
Ironically, Richard Lugar would have won a 7th term, easily.

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Response to Dawson Leery (Reply #26)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 06:55 PM

28. As a native Hoosier who got out...

I was stunned that Obama took Indiana in '08. Indiana hadn't gone for a Dem since LBJ.

I wouldn't count on lightning striking twice.

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Response to Suji to Seoul (Original post)

Fri Sep 28, 2012, 09:42 PM

29. Let's say he wins...then how will he act & vote after that? Will he compromise?

I doubt it! I just hope people don't fall for those lying crap heads.

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Response to Auntie Bush (Reply #29)

Sat Sep 29, 2012, 06:56 AM

32. If he wins, I'm sure it will be a "ringing endorsement of the tea party agenda" or words to that

effect. The base went to a lot of trouble to defeat Lugar in the primary. They would not want to see a "compromising" "Lugar, Jr" take his place.

I know in Ohio Kasich did not campaign in 2010 on a "bust unions" platform but used his victory to try to do just that. I suspect the same was true in Wisconsin.

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Response to Suji to Seoul (Original post)

Sat Sep 29, 2012, 02:24 AM

31. What a Bunch of Hypocrites the Tea Party Are

God it never ends. They really have no principles at all. Didn't take long for Mourdock to sell out....Much more of their endless hypocrisy.... http://tealiban.com/

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Response to Suji to Seoul (Original post)

Sat Sep 29, 2012, 08:14 AM

33. I believe he's had a real change of heart...

....NOT!

Surprise, another sleazeball politician with no real values other than he wants to be in office. God I hope he loses.

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