Tue Sep 11, 2012, 03:14 PM
Stake (200 posts)
Sen. Paul vows to press vote on Pakistan aid cutoff after jailed doc speaks out
Source: fox news
Paul said the U.S. "should not give foreign aid to a country whose government is torturing the man who helped us kill Usama bin Laden. "We should not be giving foreign aid to any country that is not clearly our ally. This must end, and this week I will renew my push for a vote on this issue, including holding up Senate business to accomplish this goal," he said. Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/10/sen-paul-vows-to-force-vote-on-pakistan-aid-cutoff-following-afridi-account/#ixzz26BognmNT
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13 replies, 1665 views
| Author | Time | Post | |
| Stake | Sep 2012 | OP | |
| railsback | Sep 2012 | #1 | |
| truebrit71 | Sep 2012 | #2 | |
| awoke_in_2003 | Sep 2012 | #12 | |
| happyslug | Sep 2012 | #13 | |
| greiner3 | Sep 2012 | #3 | |
| closeupready | Sep 2012 | #4 | |
| cosmicone | Sep 2012 | #5 | |
| iandhr | Sep 2012 | #6 | |
| Ter | Sep 2012 | #8 | |
| LiberalArkie | Sep 2012 | #7 | |
| DeSwiss | Sep 2012 | #9 | |
| madrchsod | Sep 2012 | #10 | |
| OnyxCollie | Sep 2012 | #11 |
Response to Stake (Original post)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 03:20 PM
railsback (627 posts)
1. What a dumbass
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Like father, like son.
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Response to Stake (Original post)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 03:20 PM
truebrit71 (16,912 posts)
2. I find myself in the spectacularly uncomfortable position of agreeing with this lunatic...
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The idea that Pakistan is our ally or our friend is laughable at best...
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Response to truebrit71 (Reply #2)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 09:32 PM
awoke_in_2003 (18,517 posts)
12. same here...
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why are we giving these asses money, anyway?
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Response to truebrit71 (Reply #2)
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 03:43 PM
happyslug (10,771 posts)
13. Pakistan controls the US Supply lines into Afghanistan, which means we need them as Allies.
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Last edited Wed Sep 12, 2012, 04:14 PM USA/ET - Edit history (3) In simple language, the US needs Pakistan as an ally, more then Pakistan needs the US as an ally. US Troops are in Afghanistan. You have three options to support troops in Afghanistan, via Pakistan, Via Iran or Via the Former Soviet Central Asia Republics (and then from Russia itself to those former Soviet Republics of Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan).
Technically, the US can ship things by air, but that is limited as to what can be hauled by air, i.e. men, light weight equipment etc, fuel, ammo, food and other supplies have to be hauled by truck (OR limit US Actions to what can be supported by air, which is NOT that much). Given the Location of Afghanistan, you will still need the support of Pakistan, Iran or Russia to FLY to Afghanistan. The US is NOT on talking terms with Iran. Russia is worried about US power, thus that leaves Pakistan as the best way to get supplies to our Troops in Afghanistan. Thus we are paying for the privilege of shipping supplies via Pakistan. The US "Aid" to Pakistan is more to keep the Government permitting the supplies through (and to provide money to those people along the supply route who oppose the US intervention in Afghanistan money so those people have a reason NOT to blow up the supply conveys). Thus Pakistan in the ally of the US, as long as the US is willing to pay Pakistan to be an ally. The problem is, the US needs Pakistan so it can have a secure supply route into Afghanistan, thus as long as US troops are in Afghanistan, the US will pay Pakistan to be a US ally. To cut out the aid to Pakistan is the same as cutting off the supplies to the US troops in Afghanistan. Thus Pakistan gets to write what the US has to pay, not the US deciding who the US gets to pay. |
Response to Stake (Original post)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 03:21 PM
greiner3 (3,966 posts)
3. Sen. Paul...jailed doc speaks out."
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Oh, I could only hope!
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Response to Stake (Original post)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 03:35 PM
closeupready (19,487 posts)
4. Oh, blow it out your ass.
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Response to Stake (Original post)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 03:45 PM
cosmicone (3,382 posts)
5. Rand is a shithead but he is right on this one. n/t
Response to Stake (Original post)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 03:55 PM
iandhr (2,250 posts)
6. I never in my life thought I would see eye to eye with Rand Paul on anything.
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But low and behold here we are.
The sooner we stop seeing Pakistan as an ally the better off we will be. |
Response to iandhr (Reply #6)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 05:09 PM
Ter (4,183 posts)
8. I see eye to eye with him on a few things
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He's right when he speaks out against The Patriot Act and NDAA too.
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Response to Stake (Original post)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 04:36 PM
LiberalArkie (1,260 posts)
7. I have to agree with Paul on this one.
Response to Stake (Original post)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 06:17 PM
madrchsod (55,747 posts)
10. got to agree with the nutball on this but.....
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Last edited Tue Sep 11, 2012, 06:18 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) big oil will not let the united states pull it`s military.
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Response to madrchsod (Reply #10)
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 09:20 PM
OnyxCollie (6,572 posts)
11. That's why it's symbolic.
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Similarly, the Paultards think Ron Paul would make pot legal; all he would do is leave it to the states, and with Republican/Blue Dog Democratic governors plus the tobacco/liquor/pharmaceutical lobby applying pressure, the issue would go nowhere.
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