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Sat Sep 8, 2012, 10:04 AM

Latest legal wrangling still means no voting on weekends (Ohio)

Source: Plunderbund--Ohio blog

...Today Husted reversed course, but only slightly. In order to get back on the judge’s good side, he rescinded his directive barring counties from setting voting hours on the final weekend. But he simultaneously asked for a stay of the district court decision and said he planned to appeal at the 6th Circuit.

Husted did not order counties to open up on the final weekend nor did he rescind his earlier order blocking all weekend voting, which still stands. Last week he fired two elections officials who dared to defy that directive, so we suspect none will step up and try now.

So do not be fooled by triumphant headlines. Today’s news is not a victory for voting rights advocates in Ohio.

Adding to the bad news, noted legal experts think Husted has a good chance of winning on appeal.

Read more: http://www.plunderbund.com/2012/09/07/latest-legal-wrangling-still-means-no-voting-on-weekends/



On Friday, we thought we had prevailed, but Husted found an angle on this.
Friday's thread:

...Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted (R) today reversed course on his decision to block county boards of elections from setting their own early voting hours in the days leading up to the November election.

Facing a direct court order, Husted has chosen instead to back down. This afternoon, Husted’s office released Directive 2012-42 with a brief message: “Directive 2012-40 is hereby rescinded.” As a result, county boards of elections will now be allowed to set their own hours, pending...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014222114

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Reply Latest legal wrangling still means no voting on weekends (Ohio) (Original post)
Kolesar Sep 2012 OP
greiner3 Sep 2012 #1
Kolesar Sep 2012 #2
blkmusclmachine Sep 2012 #3
abolugi Sep 2012 #4
Botany Sep 2012 #5
randome Sep 2012 #18
leftyohiolib Sep 2012 #6
freshwest Sep 2012 #13
daybranch Sep 2012 #17
leftyohiolib Sep 2012 #20
VPStoltz Sep 2012 #7
julian09 Sep 2012 #11
iemitsu Sep 2012 #8
Tippy Sep 2012 #9
William Seger Sep 2012 #14
tjdanielstj Sep 2012 #19
magic59 Sep 2012 #10
Botany Sep 2012 #21
byeya Sep 2012 #12
Smilo Sep 2012 #15
warrprayer Sep 2012 #16

Response to Kolesar (Original post)

Sat Sep 8, 2012, 10:13 AM

1. This will make or bread;

Husted's political career.

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Response to greiner3 (Reply #1)

Sat Sep 8, 2012, 10:18 AM

2. Husted actually sponsored the renewable energy portfolio standard in 2008

...in the electricity deregulation bill. He turned into a total creep. I think he is letting his RW oil company lobbyist lawyers dictate his policy.

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Response to Kolesar (Original post)

Sat Sep 8, 2012, 10:26 AM

3. Too Big To Jail

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Response to Kolesar (Original post)

Sat Sep 8, 2012, 10:39 AM

4. I knew it was too good to be true...


Assholes!! They are damned and determined to steal this thing even as they are getting caught doing it.

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Response to Kolesar (Original post)

Sat Sep 8, 2012, 10:40 AM

5. This does not preclude early voting asking for a stay does not mean he will get a stay

Last edited Sat Sep 8, 2012, 11:10 AM - Edit history (1)

... Husted will have to allow the the county BOEs set up early voting if
he does not want to show up in court in 5 days.


BTW Husted is on very weak legal ground too ...... say I was in prison for
armed robbery because a judge sent me there and I filed an appeal of my
conviction could I leave prison while my appeal was in the works?

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Response to Botany (Reply #5)

Sat Sep 8, 2012, 02:26 PM

18. Correct. The headline is misleading. Right now, early voting is being put back in place.

The appeal will need to wind through the process.

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Response to Kolesar (Original post)

Sat Sep 8, 2012, 10:40 AM

6. well good job ohio you sat it out to show the dems and now you're getting fucked

 

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Response to leftyohiolib (Reply #6)

Sat Sep 8, 2012, 12:50 PM

13. A number of places did, and the fence sitters are not coming out this time, either.

They must not be affected by it. Can't count on them to vote, so have to register new voters to make the difference.

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Response to leftyohiolib (Reply #6)

Sat Sep 8, 2012, 02:19 PM

17. huh?

In Ohio we activists have been working very hard to combat the attacks of the republicans on voting IDs , on unions, on fair redistricting , on voting days etc. Where have we been sitting it out? While Wisconsin got almost all the attention and sort of won, we repealed our Governor's union busting law by almost 2 to 1. We have recently got a fair redistricting commission amendment to the sate constitution on our ballot and I know that an overwhelming majority now support the concept. What sitting out do you mean?

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Response to daybranch (Reply #17)

Sat Sep 8, 2012, 03:55 PM

20. total eligible voters= 8,560,205 total turnout= 3,956,028 ;total sit out= 4,604,177

 

even if ohio is 50-50 r/d that leaves 2,302,088.5 dems sitting out.
sb5 is a separate issue sb5 mobolized the dems after the ass kicking - also remember that the people voting against sb5 were not all democrats alot of republicans stood to lose is they lost bargaining rights
remember when dems vote dems win. if they dont we lose

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Response to Kolesar (Original post)

Sat Sep 8, 2012, 11:22 AM

7. Put the economy aside for a moment...

Two issues that need to hammered home are: obstructionist Reeps in congress AND voter suppression.
My understanding is a Americans want a government that works and is fair - this is neither.
When is it made unmistakably that PrezO has been unable to get anything done - THAT HE WAS ELECTED TO DO - because of Mitch McChinless AND now they don't even want you to be able to help - I think those fence sitters will fall to the left.

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Response to VPStoltz (Reply #7)

Sat Sep 8, 2012, 12:40 PM

11. Well, I hope they vote as early as possible and not wait til last weekend

 

that would defeat their plan, for now. Especially if they are voting for Obama and straight ticket, to get rid of obstructionists.
They should organize registration and a few very early state wide votes for the DEM early voters, especially in cities to keep lines down on Nov 6/12. They don't have to wait if they already know who they will vote for.
Is that Att. General up for reelection?

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Response to Kolesar (Original post)

Sat Sep 8, 2012, 12:11 PM

8. this case and other voter suppression cases

demonstrate just how far from a true democracy the american system really is. we can not even claim to be a legitimate representative democracy. most of us aren't represented, and apparently by design. a country of those who count and those who are no-counts.
the no-counts don't get to vote or they have their votes thrown out and our federal government either doesn't have the power or will to do anything about it?
how much of this shit would thomas jefferson have put up with before calling for a new revolution?

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Response to Kolesar (Original post)

Sat Sep 8, 2012, 12:20 PM

9. Where the hell is the Justice Dept on this?

We know the retughs are going to use every trick in the books to get romney in...MR AG...it's to late to lock the barn door after the horse has been stolen.....Do you think he/AG is not getting the message...I called his office last night and left a message....

on edit: here in TN when we had our primary...at least one county had more republican votes when counted then there was republicans living in the county..don't remember the exact number but we know what the did to Kerry..The rethugs are all over the place on the new rules for voting...and the SCOTUS should step in...but....will they?

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Response to Tippy (Reply #9)

Sat Sep 8, 2012, 01:04 PM

14. I wish they would at least look into it, but...

... I think it would be tough to prove discrimination on this even though everyone paying any attention at all knows why Husted is doing it. But there isn't any Federal mandate for early voting.

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Response to Tippy (Reply #9)

Sat Sep 8, 2012, 03:09 PM

19. and the SCOTUS should step in...but....will they?

A number of months ago, I sent this email to the SCOTUS. I have no idea if it helped or not, but was going to send an email to SC Justice Roberts, thanking him for his decision on 'Obama Care.' It showed that he 'really and truly' cared for 'we the people.'

As the Subject says: 'I Used To Trust And Have Respect For the united
states supreme court.' (the small case is NOT a typo). To use capital
letters, would indicate respect, of which I have NONE for the
supreme court.

I've been a Democrat since I was a teenager, and my father told me
that the Democrats were for the poor people, and the republicans
were for the rich. History has proven him right.

I also used to believe the supreme court was Untouchable, like Eliot
Ness and the Untouchables. (I'm sure some of you are old enough to
remember that). But tsc is FAR from Untouchable. The republicans
and the rich and super rich have finally reached your price and
bought you. I'm referring to the corporations being 'people' and
taking away health care for the poor, tuasc fiasco.
----------------------------------------------
(I researched and found the info below).

What is the term of office for US Supreme Court justices?

Supreme Court justices serve "during good behavior," which means
"for life" or until they choose to resign or retire, as long as they don't
commit an impeachable offense (bad behavior).

The nine Supreme Court justices hold their offices "during good
behavior" according to Article III, Section 1, of the US Constitution.
This means that they may hold office for life; however they may be
involuntarily removed from office by impeachment for and
conviction of treason, bribery or other high crimes and
misdemeanors, the same as the President.

'THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW!'

Thank you for taking the time to read this.

Daniel aka TJ Daniels poet.

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Response to Kolesar (Original post)

Sat Sep 8, 2012, 12:35 PM

10. Normally, a Secretary of State wouldn't have the balls to do something like this but

 

this one has the backing of tens of millions of dollars from the fascist party and he can afford to get the best legal team to help make their fascist dreams come true.

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Response to magic59 (Reply #10)

Sat Sep 8, 2012, 07:49 PM

21. I know people in Ohio and Husted is getting poor legal advice and is .....

... very shaky ground trying to block the ruling of a Federal Judge ...... just
because you have appealed a judge's ruling it does not mean that the Judge's
ruling has no legal standing.

Husted will get a public slap down from the Federal Judge w/in days if he pushes
this crap.

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Response to Kolesar (Original post)

Sat Sep 8, 2012, 12:46 PM

12. No RepubliKKKan has ever been elected president without Ohio. Ohio is #1 for dark money

 

and we're seeing how this no-names-attached money is playing out.
Why isn't the national Democratic Party fighting as hard as they can?
Can't Biden, at least, be spared to tour Ohio and call attention to this
theft of voters' rights?

Is there an organization that is effective in this arena that will accept
donations?

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Response to Kolesar (Original post)

Sat Sep 8, 2012, 01:08 PM

15. Obviously the GOPT can't win in Ohio

without lying and cheating.

Husted knows this - and is doing his best to be the sycophantic creep of the GOPT

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Response to Kolesar (Original post)

Sat Sep 8, 2012, 01:09 PM

16. a scary thought

if they do steal this election, what will happen in this country? I shudder to think....

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