Tue Sep 4, 2012, 06:40 AM
Omaha Steve (35,830 posts)
35 years later, Voyager 1 is heading for the stars
Source: AP-Excite
By ALICIA CHANG PASADENA, Calif. (AP) - Thirty-five years after leaving Earth, Voyager 1 is reaching for the stars. Sooner or later, the workhorse spacecraft will bid adieu to the solar system and enter a new realm of space - the first time a manmade object will have escaped to the other side. Perhaps no one on Earth will relish the moment more than 76-year-old Ed Stone, who has toiled on the project from the start. "We're anxious to get outside and find what's out there," he said. FULL story at link. Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20120904/DA12T06O1.html
This artists rendering provided by NASA shows the Voyager spacecraft. Launched in 1977, the twin spacecraft are exploring the edge of the solar system. Thirty-five years after leaving Earth, Voyager 1 is reaching for the stars. Sooner or later, the workhorse spacecraft will bid adieu to the solar system and enter a new realm of space _ the first time a man-made object will have escaped to the other side. (AP Photo/NASA)
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| Omaha Steve | Sep 2012 | OP | |
| tomm2thumbs | Sep 2012 | #1 | |
| rfranklin | Sep 2012 | #3 | |
| tomm2thumbs | Sep 2012 | #4 | |
| Ian David | Sep 2012 | #23 | |
| tomm2thumbs | Sep 2012 | #32 | |
| awoke_in_2003 | Sep 2012 | #21 | |
| mwooldri | Sep 2012 | #22 | |
| Missycim | Sep 2012 | #24 | |
| Archae | Sep 2012 | #38 | |
| rfranklin | Sep 2012 | #44 | |
| mwooldri | Sep 2012 | #57 | |
| oldsarge54 | Sep 2012 | #65 | |
| enough | Sep 2012 | #17 | |
| tomm2thumbs | Sep 2012 | #31 | |
| roamer65 | Sep 2012 | #54 | |
| rfranklin | Sep 2012 | #2 | |
| Wilms | Sep 2012 | #7 | |
| Auggie | Sep 2012 | #5 | |
| JustABozoOnThisBus | Sep 2012 | #11 | |
| Missycim | Sep 2012 | #25 | |
| octothorpe | Sep 2012 | #47 | |
| Missycim | Sep 2012 | #48 | |
| Ian David | Sep 2012 | #26 | |
| Missycim | Sep 2012 | #49 | |
| daleo | Sep 2012 | #64 | |
| Surya Gayatri | Sep 2012 | #6 | |
| oldsarge54 | Sep 2012 | #8 | |
| Fearless | Sep 2012 | #13 | |
| Missycim | Sep 2012 | #27 | |
| Fearless | Sep 2012 | #41 | |
| Missycim | Sep 2012 | #42 | |
| Fearless | Sep 2012 | #45 | |
| oldsarge54 | Sep 2012 | #29 | |
| tonekat | Sep 2012 | #63 | |
| christx30 | Sep 2012 | #67 | |
| Bernardo de La Paz | Sep 2012 | #9 | |
| Throckmorton | Sep 2012 | #12 | |
| Missycim | Sep 2012 | #28 | |
| oldsarge54 | Sep 2012 | #30 | |
| Bernardo de La Paz | Sep 2012 | #35 | |
| Paulie | Sep 2012 | #46 | |
| Selatius | Sep 2012 | #10 | |
| geckosfeet | Sep 2012 | #14 | |
| Mustellus | Sep 2012 | #16 | |
| geckosfeet | Sep 2012 | #19 | |
| IADEMO2004 | Sep 2012 | #15 | |
| Robb | Sep 2012 | #18 | |
| Baclava | Sep 2012 | #20 | |
| allan01 | Sep 2012 | #33 | |
| allan01 | Sep 2012 | #34 | |
| EX500rider | Sep 2012 | #36 | |
| AtheistCrusader | Sep 2012 | #39 | |
| SWTORFanatic | Sep 2012 | #50 | |
| Kablooie | Sep 2012 | #37 | |
| neverforget | Sep 2012 | #52 | |
| Kablooie | Sep 2012 | #58 | |
| snooper2 | Sep 2012 | #40 | |
| SWTORFanatic | Sep 2012 | #43 | |
| Odin2005 | Sep 2012 | #51 | |
| ThoughtCriminal | Sep 2012 | #53 | |
| roamer65 | Sep 2012 | #55 | |
| Posteritatis | Sep 2012 | #56 | |
| Kablooie | Sep 2012 | #59 | |
| Duer 157099 | Sep 2012 | #60 | |
| burrowowl | Sep 2012 | #61 | |
| ChairmanAgnostic | Sep 2012 | #62 | |
| and-justice-for-all | Sep 2012 | #66 |
Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 06:44 AM
tomm2thumbs (9,187 posts)
1. just amazing when you consider the way they must control it - with all the old bells & whistles
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must be like changing channels on the TV with a hairdryer |
Response to tomm2thumbs (Reply #1)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 06:47 AM
rfranklin (13,200 posts)
3. Actually, sonny, we used to get up off the couch and turn the dial on the tv set...
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We old folks remember those days wheb there were only three stations.
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Response to rfranklin (Reply #3)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 06:49 AM
tomm2thumbs (9,187 posts)
4. heh heh heh -
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I remember we had a remote that used a sound clicker to turn the power on and off -- like a tuning fork or something inside... but lo and behold, it worked!
Dad used to build Heathkits so there was always a garage full of goodies around |
Response to tomm2thumbs (Reply #4)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 09:34 AM
Ian David (68,425 posts)
23. I remember those. And my grandmother used to have a crystal candy bowl...
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... and if you tapped it with a spoon, the TV would change channels.
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Response to Ian David (Reply #23)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 10:09 AM
tomm2thumbs (9,187 posts)
32. omg - that must've been hilarious the day you figured that out
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crazy how far and fast things have come |
Response to rfranklin (Reply #3)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 09:13 AM
awoke_in_2003 (18,500 posts)
21. My dad had three remote controls...
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me and two sisters
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Response to rfranklin (Reply #3)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 09:32 AM
mwooldri (5,987 posts)
22. Geesh - I *must* be old. 38.
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I remember having 3 channels until about 1985... though I got a snowy glimpse of the fourth earlier than that.
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Response to mwooldri (Reply #22)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 09:35 AM
Missycim (950 posts)
24. I remember when
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the cable remote was connected to the TV by a wire.
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Response to Missycim (Reply #24)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 12:01 PM
Archae (26,369 posts)
38. Heck, our first TV wth a remote had a wire!
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Oh yeah! Mid 1960's, the remote was connected to the TV with a 15 foot cord.
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Response to mwooldri (Reply #22)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 04:48 PM
rfranklin (13,200 posts)
44. In 1960, we rented a modest shore house in NJ but it had an electric antenna!
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We could get NY stations or turn the antenna and get Philly as well! That was the height of technology in those days!
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Response to rfranklin (Reply #44)
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 09:23 AM
mwooldri (5,987 posts)
57. I will admit we could have got more channels when I was younger.
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I grew up with BBC 1, BBC 2, and Southern (later TVS). London stations were available with a large outdoor antenna, forbidden in our neighborhood at that time. So we had the three South Coast stations. Channel 4 came to the South very late - we moved in the later 80's and we finally got Channel 4 with an antenna pointed at London. Along with Thames (weekday) and London Weekend TV (well... weekends).
Ireland had it worse - two channel land for most of the country at that time. Many households in Dublin had antennas on very high poles pointed at Wales to get the British channels. |
Response to rfranklin (Reply #3)
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 05:31 AM
oldsarge54 (582 posts)
65. Worse than that
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When I was a kid my father was stationed in Berlin (just before the Wall went up. We had one TV station, and it was in German from the Communist side. Our "cartoons" were having the Sunday comics read on AFN radio.
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Response to tomm2thumbs (Reply #1)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 08:08 AM
enough (6,913 posts)
17. No full-time staff on the job.
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snip from the article>
These days, a handful of engineers diligently listen for the Voyagers from a satellite campus not far from the NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory, which built the spacecraft. The control room, with its cubicles and carpeting, could be mistaken for an insurance office if not for a blue sign overhead that reads "Mission Controller" and a warning on a computer: "Voyager mission critical hardware. Please do not touch!" There are no full-time scientists left on the mission, but 20 part-timers analyze the data streamed back. Since the spacecraft are so far out, it takes 17 hours for a radio signal from Voyager 1 to travel to Earth. For Voyager 2, it takes about 13 hours. snip> |
Response to enough (Reply #17)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 10:08 AM
tomm2thumbs (9,187 posts)
31. Must be lots ot trips to the surplus JPL hardware bins to get parts
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or perhaps they haven't had anything to upgrade - just letting it work the way it always has -- figured the further it was away, the more sophisticated the receiver had to be on earth to collect the data still, entirely amazing |
Response to enough (Reply #17)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 10:08 PM
roamer65 (6,380 posts)
54. Delete.
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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 06:45 AM
rfranklin (13,200 posts)
2. What's powering the spacecraft...too far for solar power isn't it?
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Last edited Tue Sep 4, 2012, 06:49 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) anybody know?
On edit: nuclear powered according to the article at the link. |
Response to rfranklin (Reply #2)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 06:55 AM
Wilms (20,662 posts)
7. Radioisotope thermoelectric generator (RTG) n/t
Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 06:50 AM
Auggie (16,185 posts)
5. Nuclear-powered. Each has an eight-track tape recorder. And 68 kilobytes of memory.
Response to Auggie (Reply #5)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 07:32 AM
JustABozoOnThisBus (9,916 posts)
11. We're sending eight-track tapes to the stars?
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I wonder what those advanced civilizations will think of the BeeGees and Led Zeppelin? Oh, the inhumanity!
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Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #11)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 09:36 AM
Missycim (950 posts)
25. You know whats sad?
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The beeGees and Led Zeppelin is better music then 99% of the crap thats out there today
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Response to Missycim (Reply #25)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 06:58 PM
octothorpe (962 posts)
47. Also read as "GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!" :P
Response to octothorpe (Reply #47)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 08:08 PM
Missycim (950 posts)
48. I am only 42 I will have you know :p
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but the music does stink and this is coming from someone who grew up in the 80's
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Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #11)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 09:36 AM
Ian David (68,425 posts)
26. I've worked with a robotic 8-track system before...
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Response to Ian David (Reply #26)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 08:10 PM
Missycim (950 posts)
49. I dont remember that far back but I think either I had one of these or a friend did. lol
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nt
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Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #11)
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 11:16 PM
daleo (19,944 posts)
64. We also sent a gold plated 70's era laser disc
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On voyager two, I think.
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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 06:54 AM
Surya Gayatri (4,205 posts)
6. "To boldly go where no man has gone before..."
Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 06:57 AM
oldsarge54 (582 posts)
8. And
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And what happens when Vger comes back?
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Response to oldsarge54 (Reply #8)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 07:43 AM
Fearless (12,392 posts)
13. It's not set in an orbit. It won't be coming back unless we somehow retrieved it.
Response to Fearless (Reply #13)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 09:38 AM
Missycim (950 posts)
27. You didn't see the first Star Trek movie?
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Voyager 6 fell through a black hole and ended up near a world ran by machines and those machines built a HUGE space craft for Voyager.
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Response to Missycim (Reply #27)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 01:57 PM
Fearless (12,392 posts)
41. Lol, I hadn't thought of that. Touche'
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Response to Fearless (Reply #41)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 02:03 PM
Missycim (950 posts)
42. Worst costume design I have ever seen
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not to mention bad 70's haircuts
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Response to Fearless (Reply #13)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 09:56 AM
oldsarge54 (582 posts)
29. Sorry
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Star Trek moment. Archaic cultural reference. My bad.
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Response to oldsarge54 (Reply #8)
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 08:17 PM
tonekat (901 posts)
63. It'll have Firewire ports N/T
Response to oldsarge54 (Reply #8)
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 04:17 PM
christx30 (1,169 posts)
67. We might
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Have to worry about Voyager I, buy Voyager II will be destroyed by the Klingons in about 200 years (opening mi utes of Star Trek V). Stupid turtle heads and their target practice.
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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 07:03 AM
Bernardo de La Paz (7,142 posts)
9. V'ger . . . nt
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Last edited Tue Sep 4, 2012, 07:05 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) (on edit: beaten by six minutes while I researched exact spelling. No probs! Good going.)
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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #9)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 07:43 AM
Throckmorton (2,654 posts)
12. I will just give up the information N/T
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Nothing like a bald robot that looks like your ex-girlfriend in your shower asking you for information.
Must be a little like alimony payments. |
Response to Throckmorton (Reply #12)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 09:39 AM
Missycim (950 posts)
28. Sorry
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the bald held freaked me out as a kid lol
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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #9)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 10:04 AM
oldsarge54 (582 posts)
30. Harse Mistress reference
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Lead any good moon rebellions with Mike helping out?
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Response to oldsarge54 (Reply #30)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 10:34 AM
Bernardo de La Paz (7,142 posts)
35. Adam Selene will speak at the Democratic Convention, I hope. nt
Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #35)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 06:52 PM
Paulie (5,827 posts)
46. Or Prof
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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 07:29 AM
Selatius (20,440 posts)
10. We'll see it again, perhaps. We simply need to master fusion energy and new propulsion drives.
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And we need to muster the will to stop destroying each other and the planet. So much potential and energy is eaten up in man's quest to destroy himself and everything around him.
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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 08:00 AM
geckosfeet (8,805 posts)
14. Ahhh, the good old minimal tech days.
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Last edited Tue Sep 4, 2012, 08:02 AM USA/ET - Edit history (2) 35 years later, Voyager 1 is heading for the stars Voyager 1 is currently more than 11 billion miles from the sun. Twin Voyager 2, which celebrated its launch anniversary two weeks ago, trails behind at 9 billion miles from the sun. They're still ticking despite being relics of the early Space Age. Each only has 68 kilobytes of computer memory. To put that in perspective, the smallest iPod - an 8-gigabyte iPod Nano - is 100,000 times more powerful. Each also has an eight-track tape recorder. Today's spacecraft use digital memory. The Voyagers' original goal was to tour Jupiter and Saturn, and they sent back postcards of Jupiter's big red spot and Saturn's glittery rings. They also beamed home a torrent of discoveries: erupting volcanoes on the Jupiter moon Io; hints of an ocean below the icy surface of Europa, another Jupiter moon; signs of methane rain on the Saturn moon Titan. |
Response to geckosfeet (Reply #14)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 08:06 AM
Mustellus (43 posts)
16. Actually, that was Maximal Tech ....
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.. just at the time it was designed.
As a Rocket Scientist in the real world, I am always painfully aware how far behind we are.. by the time of launch. The shuttle's main computers were 8 bit word, 1 megahertz cycle rate, 64 K main memory. (Yes, I said 64 K! ) |
Response to Mustellus (Reply #16)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 08:23 AM
geckosfeet (8,805 posts)
19. Of course. But engineers always strive to sqeeze the last bit of performance out of everything.
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And those who remember the days of 64k ram and 1M hard drives may still retain their frugal digital habits.
I chuckle when people complain that their .5Tb hard drive is full. They probably use about 1% of the data. |
Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 08:03 AM
IADEMO2004 (1,393 posts)
15. 11 billion mile message in a bottle
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but don't open the power system
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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 08:11 AM
Robb (38,327 posts)
18. Great stuff. I also recommend a visit to the Voyager mission page at NASA:
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http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/voyager/index.html
It's amazing they're still controlling it, inasmuch as it can be controlled. They turned off an instrument heater in January to reduce power usage. |
Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 08:37 AM
Baclava (4,260 posts)
20. At Voyager's speed it would take 50,000 years to reach the nearest star
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Just maybe long enough for us to build up our starfleet to repel the alien armada.
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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 10:31 AM
allan01 (627 posts)
33. re:35 years later, Voyager 1 is heading for the stars
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and mittens, the colonials built that , not you.( i had to slip that in) god speed Voyager 1. may you beam us back all kinds of good info. vger needs the information |
Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 10:33 AM
allan01 (627 posts)
34. re:35 years later, Voyager 1 is heading for the stars
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any of you all ever in your lifetime build a crystal set radio? kf6uxj here .
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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 11:37 AM
EX500rider (299 posts)
36. I thought Pioneer 10 had already left the solar system...
Response to EX500rider (Reply #36)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 12:22 PM
AtheistCrusader (14,181 posts)
39. Nope. Voyager is faster.
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Eventually, Pioneer 10 and 11 will join it, but they are just reaching or in the heliosheath.
On November 17, 1998, Voyager 1 overtook Pioneer 10 as the most distant man-made object from Earth, at a distance of 69.419 AU (1.03849×1010 km). It is currently the most distant functioning space probe to receive commands and transmit information to Earth. The spacecraft's mission now is its eternal mission, to study and wander the interstellar medium. At 17.26 km/s (10.72 mi/s) it has the fastest heliocentric recession speed of any man-made object. |
Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #39)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 08:19 PM
SWTORFanatic (385 posts)
50. Massive scale of the universe. Nearest star is 270,000 AU away
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Voyager was 60 AU in 97 and about 120 AU in 2012.
Too bad it was launched with chemical rockets and not nuclear pulse propulsion. |
Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 11:58 AM
Kablooie (8,854 posts)
37. I'm heading to a presentation about the Voyagers at JPL tonight.
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If I can get a seat. I'm sure it will be crowded.
The auditorium has a full scale replica of voyager in the corner and a display of the photos and sounds that the spacecraft carry. |
Response to Kablooie (Reply #37)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 09:16 PM
neverforget (6,315 posts)
52. I'm jealous!
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I would love to go to that!
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Response to neverforget (Reply #52)
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 12:56 PM
Kablooie (8,854 posts)
58. Here's a video of the whole presentation.
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It was very interesting.
I learned some things I didn't know about the mission. Did you know they received some startling unexpected data just last week! http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/25191976 |
Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 12:58 PM
snooper2 (16,603 posts)
40. and no sign of heaven yet LOL
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All we have to do is believe!
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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 02:28 PM
SWTORFanatic (385 posts)
43. sad we never used nuclear pulse propulsion. we could still get to alpha centauri in my lifetime
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If we launched today (maybe, im 32 and if it took 50 years)
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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 09:08 PM
Odin2005 (48,255 posts)
51. Those 2 spacecraft amaze me.
Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 10:07 PM
ThoughtCriminal (9,797 posts)
53. Video Tribute to a lonely Space Probe
Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 10:10 PM
roamer65 (6,380 posts)
55. I am assuming that New Horizons will eventually overtake the Voyagers...maybe?
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Last edited Tue Sep 4, 2012, 10:31 PM USA/ET - Edit history (4) It was launched in 2006 and is less than 3 years away from Pluto now. It speeds by Pluto in July 2015. Then through the Kuiper Belt and on to the stars as well.
Only thing that would give Voyager 1 a leg up on New Horizons is the gravity assists from Jupiter and Saturn. |
Response to roamer65 (Reply #55)
Tue Sep 4, 2012, 11:14 PM
Posteritatis (17,280 posts)
56. Voyager's doing 17km/sec to New Horizon's 13 or 14. (nt)
Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 01:07 PM
Kablooie (8,854 posts)
59. You can view the daily current Voyager data on the web.
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http://voyager.gsfc.nasa.gov/heliopause/heliopause/recenthist.html
This is where the scientists get their data each day. If you want to learn more about what this data is, watch the video of the JPL presentation given on Tues. Sept 4. It's pretty interesting. http://www.ustream.tv/nasajpl2 |
Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 01:10 PM
Duer 157099 (16,527 posts)
60. That's what can happen when "planned obsolesence" is taken out of the equation
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Imagine if all of our cars etc were as reliable?
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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 02:38 PM
burrowowl (8,954 posts)
61. Voyager is one of the best things we've done
Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Wed Sep 5, 2012, 02:40 PM
ChairmanAgnostic (23,985 posts)
62. who said 8-track tapes would not come back?
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'cause that is all this baby has for data storage.
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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 12:45 PM
and-justice-for-all (14,763 posts)


