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Sun Jun 10, 2012, 05:35 PM

Dylan Ratigan Leaving MSNBC

Source: New York Times

June 10, 2012, 5:01 PM

Dylan Ratigan Leaving MSNBC

By BRIAN STELTER

Dylan Ratigan, the opinionated and sometimes hotheaded television host, is leaving MSNBC, the cable channel where he has worked for the last three years.

Mr. Ratigan, whose news analysis show is now broadcast at 4 p.m. Eastern time, said in a telephone interview that he was electing to leave cable so that he could put into practice what he has talked about on TV. Mr. Ratigan has attacked political systems, corporations and special interests on his show and promoted movements for job creation, bank reform and campaign finance reform in the past.

“Once you’ve said your piece, you can either keep saying it — and then it’s a job, good job, pays well, everybody knows your name, it’s great — or you can decide what you’re going to do about it,” he said. “And the answer is, I don’t know. But I do know, in order to figure it out, I have to dismount.”

On MSNBC, Mr. Ratigan will be replaced by the man whose show precedes his at 3 p.m., Martin Bashir. MSNBC staff members were told of the changes on Sunday afternoon after a reporter inquired about the plan.


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Hissyspit Jun 2012 OP
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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 05:38 PM

1. Good riddance

I never watch him.

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Response to Politicalboi (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 10:05 PM

82. I was shocked at how bad he treated Ed Schultz!

I quit watching him. STFU!!!

Chris Matthews has the same train ... so annoying. STFU!!!!

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Response to coldbeer (Reply #82)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 11:01 AM

106. what'd he do to Ed Schultz? nt

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Response to Politicalboi (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 03:00 AM

123. +1

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 05:38 PM

2. Good.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 05:42 PM

3. I'm not really a fan, though I

respect the decision to try to move from talk to action.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 05:44 PM

4. I couldn't take him for to long. He is such a bag of wind.

 

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 05:51 PM

5. I tried to like his show

It took time to warm up to Rachel Maddow and Al Sharpton and now I really like their shows. I can't say the same for Ratigan. His schtick was always that both sides are equally bad, left and right. No matter what Republicans did, he would always frame the situation as 'both sides suck'.

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Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #5)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 06:24 PM

19. Exactly. I couldn't take that false equivalence crap. nt

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 05:53 PM

6. I won't miss him. His ego is larger than

anyone on T.V. Glad Martin Bashir is going to replace him. He is afraid of nothing.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 05:54 PM

7. In the dictionary, next to "pompous ass" they have his picture

A windbag in love with the sound of his own voice and a proponent of the "both sides are equally guilty" theory of WTF is wrong with American government.

I won't miss him because I never deliberately watched him, but I did make the mistake of turning the TV on a few times when his silly ass show was on. I was pretty lame.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 05:55 PM

8. I'm one of the few here who kind of liked him

I really learned a lot from his show, especially when he would almost give a school-type lesson.
I think his opinions about bank reform were spot-on.

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #8)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 06:05 PM

12. You're not alone! I did, too!

 

I found his search for the truth and the facts and the outline he painted as to how our government was being sold out to the highest bidder exactly correct. His views on the way a capitalist worldwide economic system leaves the little guys out, quite correct.

Admittedly, I turned off the TV machine some days when he came on. I just couldn't take all that truth later in the afternoon. But he's got a wonderfully precise view of what we are up against. Can't fault him for that!

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #8)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:07 PM

30. I thought his Wall Street experience and prouducer for top MSNBC Show gave him special Outlook

And, I will be sorry to see him go.

But, here's what NYT says he said to them:

Mr. Ratigan said he would keep in touch with viewers through his personal Web site, DylanRatigan.com, which includes a campaign-style e-mail list. “Basically my plan is to meet with tons of people, learn from tons of people, and then figure out a way to take the narrative I’ve been talking about, and show the most effective ways to resolve it.”

That might take the shape of a media property, he said, but no plans have been set up yet. Returning to the Broadway play analogy, he said, “I need to write the next script.”


http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/10/dylan-ratigan-leaving-msnbc/

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Response to KoKo (Reply #30)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 04:36 PM

120. I agree, he had great commentary on the corporate power structure

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #8)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:47 PM

48. Dylan wasn't a cheerleader ...

... and that's why a lot of folks here don't like him.

I guess they just want a Democratic Party--Obama hack 24 hours a day on MSNBC.

I liked Ratigan because he did call Democrats out when they are wrong, i.e., the Geithner, Summers, bankers and corporatists wing of the Party.

And, yup, occasionally he had on a Repuglican like Coburn, and so what ... I hope Democrats don't become as pig-headed and fanatically ideological like the Teapublican types.

So, I'll miss Ratigan's show, but you've got to give him credit for wanting to do more to really upset the banksters and one percenters and elitists ... than just talking about it.

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #8)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 08:11 PM

60. Same here. I liked the lessons, too. nt

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #8)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 09:09 PM

73. Me too, some people though don't like it when another tells it like it is. nt

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #8)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 09:28 PM

79. I think you're not as isolated as you may think

Ratigan spoke my favorite rant of all time:


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Response to OKNancy (Reply #8)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 10:11 PM

84. I liked him

I always felt like I could trust him to give me the straight story, spin free. I will miss his show. Plus, his rants seemed honest. Not just the...my side good, their side evil...meme that's entertaining, but...lacking in substance. Sometimes you want the whole story, not just half of it. And, I learned a lot without all the conspiracy theories.

MSNBC seems to be dropping hosts like flies all of a sudden.

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Response to onpatrol98 (Reply #84)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 03:56 AM

101. If ONLY they'd drop Joe Scarborough. He's been kept artificially alive by MSNBC.

He would be perfectly at home at Fox. MSNBC shouldn't stink up a potentially fine cable network by having him and his repellant group working there in the same spot where they could have intelligent, worthwhile people.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Reply #101)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 11:20 AM

109. Why do we even allow fox to continue?

They have no journalistic standards. They are pure propaganda for the wrong wing. Outlaw them, or this country is really lost.

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Response to Mosaic (Reply #109)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 04:10 PM

117. Seriously?

The GOP sends their "spokespeople" out to call us communists, and you want to emulate them?
Without the First Amendment, we have nothing. Please remember, no matter what your crazy aunt told you, there are just as many of "them" as there are of us.

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #8)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 12:58 AM

97. I think he's the only one on MSNBC who has..

the first clue about economics.

The rest are just hopelessly lost. Which is, I suppose, what the corporatists at GE prefer.

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #8)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 03:03 PM

115. I give him a lot of credit for calling out the corruption problems with $$$ in politics

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #8)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 03:47 PM

116. I generally liked him

I like a lot of his basic premises, but he was a DIEHARD "they are both bad" type.

Ds are no great shakes, but on their worst days they can not even BEGIN to do the damage the Rs do.

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #8)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 04:11 PM

118. I'm with you

I liked him a lot. I especially liked that he highlighted civil liberties issues on his show. He wasn't afraid to ask his guests tough questions that made them squirm. He also didn't allow his guests to answer his questions with non-answers. He asked follow up questions which is sorely missing on most of the cable shows. I'm not a cheerleader for the Democratic Party. When they do good I'll compliment them but expect journalists to hold their feet to the fire. I also expect people like us to do the same. You get no free pass from me just because you have D after your name.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 05:57 PM

9. Good for Martin. Much more exposure...Yay!..n/t

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Response to monmouth (Reply #9)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 06:02 PM

11. Agreed! Martin Bashir is a favorite of mine! n/t

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Response to monmouth (Reply #9)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:13 PM

33. I've not watched "Martin"...who is he and what does he do that you like?

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Response to KoKo (Reply #33)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:42 PM

47. Martin Bashir. His show has been coming on at noon pacific, 3 PM Eastern on MSNBC.

You can search for his videos on YouTube.

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Response to KoKo (Reply #33)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 08:09 PM

57. Besides being progressive, The Man ...


Speaks the best English I have ever heard.

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Response to bayareaboy (Reply #57)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 08:38 PM

67. So...I should watch him because he speaks the "best English you have heard." ?????

What does that mean? What is the content of his show that appeals to you. I don't know who he is...so I'm asking. Your answer leaves me clueless...because I have no idea what you are saying. "Speaks best English...you have heard?" Where do you live?

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Response to KoKo (Reply #67)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 09:04 PM

72. Martin asks very good questions

without sounding rude or aggressive. He comes across as very authentic, likable, humble, and smart. He is a pleasure to watch and the "best English" may be referring to his wonder British accent.

As unassuming as he appears, he does not let people get away with half-truths or flat out lies.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #72)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 09:57 AM

103. Thanks all for the replies as to who Martin is--Sounds interesting. n/t

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Response to KoKo (Reply #67)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 10:26 PM

88. Martin asks the tough questions - he is not afraid to say that republicans are screwing the economy

on purpose - will bring repubs on his show to try and prove him wrong, and calls them out on their bs....
as an example.


About his English - he has a British accent which makes him kinda fun to listen to.

Him and Rachel are the 2 I have on my dvr so I never miss either of their shows.

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Response to jillan (Reply #88)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 10:40 AM

105. My only complaint about Martin Bashir's show

was timing. It seems that his time slot was frequently interrupted for live speeches from the president. Now maybe we'll get more Bashir.

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Response to KoKo (Reply #67)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 07:55 PM

121. Then don't watch Martin ...


I like to hear someone who has a good grasp of the language, who can express himself very well and asks good questions.

Would you prefer Huntz Hall?

And I didn't even take it personal.

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Response to KoKo (Reply #33)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 11:37 PM

91. He's extremely well informed and articulate,

and keeps the show moving along smoothly. He doesn't take nonsense from anyone, and challenges those he thinks is mistaken, politely.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 06:01 PM

10. I will miss Martin Bashir's handoff to Dylan - it always cracks me up...

Martin is so spot on, delivers a powerful punch at the end of his show and then hands it over to Dylan who just bumbles.


Other than that - buh-bye Dylan!

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Response to jillan (Reply #10)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 10:33 AM

104. The handoff is hilarious

It always feels like there is some inside joke there that we're missing. Its all downhill after that though!

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 06:15 PM

13. YAY!

While Ratigan could be right sometimes, he was often a blowhard and won't be missed.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 06:15 PM

14. He worked for the wall street banksters for years

 

so he knew all the tricks of the trade, all the cons the banksters used. He has street smarts and was a pain in their rear ends. I'm sure the banksters are happy he is gone. As for me, I will miss him, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

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Response to magic59 (Reply #14)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:21 PM

37. Yes...I have to agree with you there...because I knew his background and

knew how upset he was over the Banksters throwing the rest of us under their wheels.

I watched the change in him....and it was turmoil. He thought Dem side would be better...but, UNDER THE BUS WITH DYLAN...

There's NO WAY he was going to APOLOGIZE like the rest of those on MSNBC have had to do...an he probably knew that he was going to say something that would "cross his basic principles" and so is bowing out early.

Yes...he made a lot of money...but, many DU'ers only trash those who RAIL AGAINST THE SYSTEM while taking the money and promote those who have values that collide with the FDR Type Dems who TAKE THE MONEY and MORE for FAVOR....and APPAUDE THEM.

Good for you Dylan... A person of PRINCIPLES..has a tough time these days. Finding a Party and a Platform.

He may end up like Geraldo......but, he DID TRY...and that doesn't work ...for anyone who isn't "total inner circle these days."

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Response to KoKo (Reply #37)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 10:08 PM

83. Out in the real world.

..maybe 2-4% of Americans have any idea what is happening. Here at DU it's maybe 5%. People who have absolutely no clue what is going on get upset when someone tells them uncomfortable truths. Ratigan told uncomfortable truths, he is not going to be popular with many people because they just fucking don't get it.

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Response to sendero (Reply #83)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 11:18 AM

108. Yes, indeed.



"... he is not going to be popular with many people because they just fucking don't get it."

Reminds me of the 60's bumper sticker that said: All the world is watching the USA and all of the USA is watching television.

It's tough to spell some words when you've only heard them on TV...

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 06:21 PM

15. Another good journalist forced out by the mainstream media

DLC-types, banksters, and tea puppets hated him.

Most people who appreciated his sticking up for the average American victimized by Wall St. will be sorry to see him go, though.

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Response to brentspeak (Reply #15)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 12:50 PM

113. yup--I'll never forget how he took apart people like Hensarling

like they were tinker toys.

He's just a business oriented Democrat. Not afraid to call bullshit when he saw it. Goodbye! (of course. among many on our own side saying good riddance.)

And they wonder why the media is further and further right.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 06:21 PM

16. Dylan, leaving

doesnt surprise, his program turned from fire to cotton candy, and one has to wonder is the msnbc has again turned from hard truths.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 06:24 PM

17. I'm saddened to hear this. I liked

his show. I hope his efforts are successful.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 06:24 PM

18. Go Martin!!

Ratigan wants to form a third party to undercut the dems, imo

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #18)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 08:06 PM

53. I remember him ...

on his program telling folks that he was a Republicon on many occasions

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Response to bayareaboy (Reply #53)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 08:39 PM

68. I won't miss him

but he did have some interesting fluff segments

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #18)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 10:13 PM

86. Should Martin get 2 hours?

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Response to Dawson Leery (Reply #86)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 12:53 AM

94. Or maybe Chris Hayes

He's not fluff either

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 06:25 PM

20. Praise Jesus. nt

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 06:34 PM

21. C Ya Dylan!

His occasional nuggets of wisdom were not worth the pomposity. From my perspective, his guests were much better in expressing their ideas and philosophy.
The hand offs between Martin Basher and Dylan were often laugh out loud funny, he usually looked so goofy in contrast to Bashiers' coolness of delivery and manner.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 06:39 PM

22. Good. I couldn't stand him. I thought he was a complete ass.

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Response to demgrrrll (Reply #22)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 06:47 PM

23. I liked him sometimes but felt I could never really trust him.

He came from CNBC and as such, he was completely steeped in 24/7 corporate/Wall Street culture. That's an awfully big bunch of Gordion Knots from which to disengage, and they sure buttered his bread for a long time (and who would his friends be, and who would he hang out with, and whose cocktail parties would he be invited to and who would he go out for drinks and dinner with?) I was never sure he was not still a wholly-owned subsidiary. Like that little camera-cupcake Erin whatever-her-name-is on CNN who came from CNBC, to replace Eliot Spitzer and only served to keep the ratings in the cable news basement. Her inquisitional and oppositional questioning of people in the Occupy movement betrayed who still owned/owns her.

Glad to hear Martin Bashir's gaining from it. Wish they'd give him a two-hour show! He's utterly BRILLIANT!

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Response to calimary (Reply #23)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 08:40 PM

122. I did not have all that information my response was purely visceral.

Very interesting. I am a huge fan of Martin Bashir.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 06:47 PM

24. I for one

will not miss Dylan and his good friend Sen Tom Coburn. And glad for Martin.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 06:47 PM

25. Who will get Martin's slot? nt

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Response to onehandle (Reply #25)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 06:54 PM

27. I was wondering the same thing. I'm not too sorry to hear Ratigan is leaving

Sometimes I liked him...sometimes I turned him off. I love Martin Basher!

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 06:52 PM

26. I hope either Krystal Ball, Angry Black Lady, or Goldie taylor takes his place.

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Response to FarLeftFist (Reply #26)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:23 PM

39. I'm sure you do! n/t

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Response to KoKo (Reply #39)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:40 PM

46. Yep, maybe Krystal Ball can take Ratigan's place, and Imani ABL & Goldie can take Tweety's 2nd spot.

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Response to FarLeftFist (Reply #26)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 08:09 PM

58. How long do you think it would take for "ABL" to be asked by MSNBC to Apologize

to Viewers for something she said?

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Response to KoKo (Reply #58)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 08:27 PM

65. I think she can handle herself. Twitter & television are 2 different things.

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Response to FarLeftFist (Reply #65)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 08:32 PM

66. ABL would be the most contentuous Media Host...ever to appear....unless "Black Agenda" was

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opposite her... BLOOD BATH!

Edited: typo in subject line.

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Response to KoKo (Reply #66)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 08:43 PM

71. I'm pretty sure she would do just fine.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:05 PM

28. Sheesh...why doesn't MSNBC hire back Geraldo Rivera...he did well for Clinton during MonicaGate?



MSNBC seems to have a history of throwing out their brightest and best...

Yet, their actions are mostly CHEERED ON by "Democratic" Undergrounders.

How can this be?

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:05 PM

29. Now he's going to run for some elected office.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #29)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:08 PM

32. I think he would do well in House or Senate. He has lot's of Wall St. Exprience and could Beat Them

at THEIR GAME!

Good on HIM ...if he decides to do this.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:08 PM

31. Not a fan...

"...members of Ratigan’s current staff will work to create a new show for the earlier time slot."

WHY? Assuming it was in his contract and Ratigan gets a cut. Time for The Karen Finney Show.

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Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Reply #31)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:15 PM

34. not the best player on our team... but

I think Ratigan made some good points in every show if you could stand the occasional popinjay persona. I hope he finds new ways to harrass the 1%ers.

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Response to TahoeGrandpa (Reply #34)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:23 PM

38. welcome to DU!

I never watched his show so I can't comment on that--I do admire him for giving up the big paycheck/steady job if "action" is really his next step--but I'm happy for Martin Bashir. I've only seen him a few times, when he was subbing for Lawrence, but boy did I like him!

Anyway, welcome!

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Response to renate (Reply #38)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 08:11 PM

61. Thom Hartmann chatroom

Thanks for the welcome Renate. I'm tahoekevin from Thom's chat thing a while back.. I think I know you from there.

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Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Reply #31)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:17 PM

35. Ohhhhhhhhh... love me some Karen Finney.

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Response to Gidney N Cloyd (Reply #35)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:35 PM

44. She's ready, and she'd be a great lead-in to Bashir.

She "guest hosted" his show several times recently. I remember watching Rachel Maddow progress from K.O. guest sports to her own show. Karen has shown the same career trajectory. Time for top billing.

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Response to Gidney N Cloyd (Reply #35)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:39 PM

45. Please, no!

Talk about a political hack -- that's Karen Finney.

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Response to earthside (Reply #45)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 08:08 PM

55. Hack? She has hacked into my heart, my friend!

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Response to earthside (Reply #45)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 03:25 AM

124. Correction: The "hack" is leaving. Karen, OTOH, would be a welcome addition by Democrats....

who use MSNBC as their news source. I can see why the self professed "uber-liberals" and "third party advocates" here at DU wouldn't care for her. She's a Democrat. And MSNBC has learned that "democrats" will tune in for folks like Karen, Al, Melissa, Rachel, et al. The numbers don't lie.

Hey! There's always Current TV, a few hundred clicks up the dial.

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Response to Gidney N Cloyd (Reply #35)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:51 PM

50. Be still my heart!!!!!!! ...


I just love to see her as being a part of a show. Not only that she makes sense and herself well.

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Response to Gidney N Cloyd (Reply #35)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 01:28 PM

114. She plays both sides of the fence a bit too often

but she is quite smart, so if given a chance ..

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:20 PM

36. No doubt Ed Schultz is doing a happy dance.

He and Ratigan had some on-air tiffs after Ratigan bloviated overtime and then interrupted Ed after every third word,

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:28 PM

40. I'm very HAPPY to hear this. His show is my least favorite of the afternoon ones n/t

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:30 PM

41. Now maybe they will

Bring back Keith Olbermann.

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Response to Spacer125 (Reply #41)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 08:09 PM

59. I hope not.

I wouldn't watch MSNBC while they had him on their slots. He's just so pompous and awful. He's like a progressive Bill O'Reilly. He's dumb and offers nothing intelligent. I only started watching MSNBC after they got rid of him.

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Response to Spacer125 (Reply #41)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 08:40 PM

69. Ahh...You were a Keith Olbermann Fan...were you? What do you think Keith did better

on his show and how did it differ from Dylan Ratigan's show? They weren't in competing time slots, if you are aware..... So, Dylan was competing with a different audience.

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Response to Spacer125 (Reply #41)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 03:28 AM

125. Ain't ever gonna happen. Trust!

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:32 PM

42. I know that he might go to FAUX NEWS....since it's losing viewers and if he does

it might be good for us.

Changing MEDIA is what many of us here on DU have been about. And hopefully we will see "THE CHANGE" that so many of us have been hoping for.

CNN goes LEFT and drags FAUX with it as more and more of us and our kids, grandkids and selves are caught up in BAILING OUT THE BANKSTERS.

Frankly speaking....he'd do better there educating the RIGHT "Investors" than speaking to those who feel that the BAIL OUT WAS GOOD and that "Americans got the best deal they could have gotten" after REAGAN, BUSH I and II.

CHANGE IS COMING.....

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:33 PM

43. Who leaving what?

Which, of course, is the why.

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Response to sofa king (Reply #43)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 08:42 PM

70. Well...if you are a "Sofa King" ....and asking "Which of course, is the why"

It does give credibility to your post.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:48 PM

49. Anyone here think that they would put S.E. Cupp in that time slot?

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Response to Jamaal510 (Reply #49)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 08:00 PM

52. I don't think so ...

SE Cupp is it seems to me to be just in for working against a demo on the other side of the table. She doesn't have any sort of thing going on except trying to finish things with her BS RePUG theories.

I really think that she is light weight.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:59 PM

51. But it's not a "news analysis show".

Ratigan goes for the sidelights, the odd angles, the hidden trends. What he doesn't do is analyze the day's news, which actually I would kind of prefer.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 08:06 PM

54. I've never liked Dylan Ratigan's show

I would change the channel when he came on. I'm not even sure if he's really a progressive. I've heard that he's conservative.

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Response to AJTheMan (Reply #54)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 08:20 PM

62. Let me ask you: How did you find "DU" and why did you sign up here and

what is it about Dylan Ratigan that you found offensive to your sensibilities that you needed to post about him in reply to this thread?

You say you would "change the channel when he came on"...but, I would like to know "WHY" you found him so offensive.

Since you are a new "DU Member" it would be interesting to know about this. Can you give more info?

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Response to KoKo (Reply #62)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 08:26 PM

64. I found DU whenever I typed "Democrats" into google.

My reason for signing up can be found here. The reason that I didn't enjoy his show is because I felt like he would be more at home at Fox News rather than a progressive MSNBC.

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Response to AJTheMan (Reply #64)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 09:26 PM

77. And welcome to DU!

I don't think Ratigan has ever indicated he was a progressive. I'm not really sure what he is, but he is very self-absorbed and he speaks in exasperating run-on sentences.



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Response to PatSeg (Reply #77)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 10:11 PM

85. Thank you! It's so nice to be welcomed by friendly people!

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Response to AJTheMan (Reply #85)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 10:19 PM

87. You're welcome

I just wanted to be sure you knew that most of us are friendly here. Your above answer was very sharp and I like your reference to your "Welcome" thread.

I've met some life-long friends here. I hope the same for you. When politics gets overwhelming, there's a lot of other topics to explore as well.

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Response to AJTheMan (Reply #85)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 10:28 PM

89. Yes, Ratigan has said he's a conservative. I change the channel too.

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Response to AJTheMan (Reply #64)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 03:35 AM

126. Nail on the head there AJ. Don't mind the Ratigan fan club. They don't like Democrats much.




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Response to AJTheMan (Reply #54)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 11:45 PM

92. Welcome to DU, AJTheMan!

Thanks to the link to your 'intro' thread. I like you!

And more importantly, I think YOU'LL like it here. You'll need all the Democratic friends you can find if you live in a Red area.

Hopefully you've lurked for awhile so you know that sometimes things can get testy, but underneath it all, we're very supportive of one another AND the Democratic agenda, natch.

Glad you're here!


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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 08:09 PM

56. He will not be missed. Dylan is obsessed with complaining how bad things are.

He offers few solutions if any to the current problems. He is a whiner.

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Response to Dawson Leery (Reply #56)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 08:23 PM

63. Dawson...please tell us more about why you so disliked Dylan Ratigan..

You've been here since 2009...so you might have an interesting perspective that could give insight to those of us who will miss Ratigan's Wall Street Perspective and his rants against those who wanted to tear down our Unions.

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Response to Dawson Leery (Reply #56)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 09:25 PM

76. I myself would rather hear the truth even when it's

bad news, living in denial means waking up to a horrid reality. Plus he does offers solutions ... maybe you haven't actually listened to his show otherwise you would have heard them.

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Response to Dawson Leery (Reply #56)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 09:28 PM

78. He offers solutions............

Just buy his book "Greedy Bastards"! He reminds viewers as often as possible.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 09:16 PM

74. The first time I was turned off by Ratigan

was back in the early days of his show. On two occasions he used baby dolls and puppets as visual effects to explain finance. It was both pathetic and insulting to the viewer. It felt like the segment would never end.

Then he had his on screen temper tantrum, which I thought was scripted. He got a lot of attention, as he took time off to finish writing his book (convenient timing). When he returned, the show became an one hour infomercial for Dylan's book for weeks.

Dylan Ratigan made some good points about the financial system in this country, but his on-air style was grating. His questions sounded more like monologues and his guests only seemed to be props so he could expound on his great and profound thoughts.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #74)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 06:56 AM

102. His questions sounded more like monologues

That's why I disliked his show and took the time to do something around the house, like pull weeds or vacuum.

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Response to PADemD (Reply #102)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 12:43 PM

112. So true

Now can we lose Chuck and Andrea also? What a dream.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 09:21 PM

75. Hope he stays visible, and stays loud

Seems like some people are only interested in cheerleaders, Pollyannas, and echo chambers.

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Response to demwing (Reply #75)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 03:46 PM

133. He wants to pump up the "third way" and that means Libertarians and Repuke Lights

Just wait and see, this is what he was pushing previously

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 09:36 PM

80. Dylan

I didn't want him much, but I generally liked his style. His coverage of Wall Street and Big Banks was probably some of the best of the recent era.

He seemed to really know the nuts and bolts of Wall Street and Big money and Finance. And he seemed to do a great job calling out ALL THE CORRUPTION.

He was sure as hell no Jim Kramer and I'll have to stay abreast of his new endeavors.

-90% Jimmy

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 09:42 PM

81. Good!

I couldn't stand Dylan, and I'm thrilled Martin is replacing him....

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 11:24 PM

90. I'll be one of the few who likes him. Agree with a lot of the negative points made,

but I thought he knew his financial stuff. And he would speak his mind, which I always admire. Like Biden.

I wish him the best.

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Response to gateley (Reply #90)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 12:57 AM

96. I appreciated his financial knowledge

that's a loss. I was never sure what he was using his knowledge for and fret that he'll go about consolidating the various third party / libertarian types to gain a voice for what could split the vote in critical elections. Luckily, he's late for the fall..

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #96)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 12:01 PM

129. Hmmm. Interesting. I hadn't thought of that but I could see him doing it. nt

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 12:43 AM

93. Now I can keep MSNBC on all of the time.


and i am pleasantly surprised to see how many agree with my deep dislike of this gasbag.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 01:09 AM

98. I never watched him.

So I won't miss him. The few snips of him I saw here and there never impressed me much.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 01:22 AM

99. Too much explicit facts for you to absorb?

There are more than "a few" positives. He can never be mistaken for conservative...real silly.
He knows the inside Wall St cons. He is more difficult..for you rejecting. Can talk too fast only negative.

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Response to savisticate (Reply #99)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 11:13 AM

107. You Know What's Hard to Absorb?

Your post!!!


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Response to otohara (Reply #107)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 03:41 AM

127. +1




Word Salad!


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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 03:20 AM

100. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out...

Never did care for his style or his message. Actually, I probably never really got too deep in "his message", as his style was such a turn off, I usually flicked the channel before he could have more than a minute of my time on this planet.

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Response to Hulk (Reply #100)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 04:24 PM

119. Style over substance

It's very interesting to see the number of people who actually prefer style over substance.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 11:23 AM

110. My suggestion

Recruit Alyona Minkovski, she is amazing with the truth. She would really shake up the establishment though, and she'll end up at Current most likely. msnbc is really a low rate, minimally liberal channel. We Dems have to wake up to their corporate slant!

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Response to Mosaic (Reply #110)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 03:44 AM

128. I'm a Democrat, and I love MSNBC, and it's only getting better. Hopefully DR can join Cenk up.....

the dial.

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Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #128)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 03:45 PM

132. +1

MSNBC is improving

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 11:34 AM

111. Tolerable next to Scarborough any day. nt

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 12:48 PM

130. Dylan

 

Oh Dylan the one who told the truth. Your famous rant made me proud finally someone stopped bs ing and told it like it is. I will miss listening to you because I am very direct in stating the truth. Hope Your buddy moves over from Current TV. Best wishes and go after the Greedy Basta$ds.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 01:26 PM

131. I found him tolerable, but ...

Often, he came off as self-absorbed. Let your guests talk for a while and finish their statements! This is to say nothing of his almost messianic perception of himself when it comes to creating revolutions.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 08:35 PM

134. I guess peole can't handle the truth

 

Four legs good, two legs bad!

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