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Wed Apr 25, 2012, 03:09 AM

Pennsylvania Primary: Blue Dog Democrats Lose Seats

Source: huffingtonpost

WASHINGTON -- It was a not-so-super Tuesday for Pennsylvania's Blue Dog Democrats.

Reps. Tim Holden (D-Pa.) and Jason Altmire (D-Pa.), both members of the dwindling conservative Democratic coalition, lost their primary races on Tuesday. Before the defeat of the two incumbents, there were just 25 Blue Dogs left in Congress, after the coalition's members were wiped out in the 2010 election.

Holden lost to progressive candidate Matt Cartwright, an attorney who attacked the incumbent for voting against President Barack Obama's health care reform. Holden is the second House member to lose to a newcomer in the 2012 primaries. The other lawmaker was Rep. Jean Schmidt (R-Ohio). Both were also targeted by the anti-incumbent super PAC, the Campaign for Primary Accountability.

Getting a progressive Democrat into Pennsylvania's newly redrawn 17th Congressional District was a priority for progressive groups, including MoveOn and the League of Conservation Voters. The latter ran the largest independent expenditure campaign in the race, which included a $230,000 TV ad buy on broadcast and cable networks in the Scranton media market. The spot criticized Holden for opposing Obama's clean energy plan.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/24/pennsylvania-primary-blue-dog-democrats_n_1450926.html



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Reply Pennsylvania Primary: Blue Dog Democrats Lose Seats (Original post)
Grassy Knoll Apr 2012 OP
left on green only Apr 2012 #1
ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2012 #2
BumRushDaShow Apr 2012 #3
PADemD Apr 2012 #17
goclark Apr 2012 #4
peacebird Apr 2012 #5
mathematic Apr 2012 #7
Justice wanted Apr 2012 #9
mathematic Apr 2012 #13
Justice wanted Apr 2012 #24
Recursion Apr 2012 #8
Codeine Apr 2012 #22
bemildred Apr 2012 #6
Crowman1979 Apr 2012 #10
Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2012 #11
Recursion Apr 2012 #14
mathematic Apr 2012 #15
bemildred Apr 2012 #16
Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2012 #18
bemildred Apr 2012 #19
Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2012 #20
bemildred Apr 2012 #23
Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2012 #25
bemildred Apr 2012 #27
Hubert Flottz Apr 2012 #12
closeupready Apr 2012 #21
Downtown Hound Apr 2012 #26

Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 05:09 AM

1. Ba buy now. I hope you all do not let the door slam into......

your asses on the way out.

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Response to left on green only (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 05:23 AM

2. Yeah. I'd hate to damage the finish on the door.

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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 05:23 AM

3. Let's hope the Dems in those districts come out in November

because the crazy rethug zombie hoards certainly will even if they hate Rmoney.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 09:56 AM

17. Phone banker here

We're working on GOTV every week until November!

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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 05:25 AM

4. Keep it coming~

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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 07:14 AM

5. So two r-lite blue dogs are replaced with two progressive D's? What's not to love about that? : )

One is progressive, the other has heavy union support. Sweet!

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Response to peacebird (Reply #5)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 09:16 AM

7. Critz is hardly a DU Progressive

He's against environmental protections. He's pro Marsellas Shale natural gas development. He's stridently pro life. He's pro war. He was against the repeal of don't ask don't tell. These are all things that he's more to the right of Altmire on. Nevertheless, Critz and Altmire are substantially similar. If you hate one you probably hate the other.

Also this district was a merge between two D held districts. Both Critz and Altmire are currently Representatives.

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Response to mathematic (Reply #7)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 09:27 AM

9. So we exchanged one jerk for another... Typical PA...

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Response to Justice wanted (Reply #9)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 09:39 AM

13. There's really no way around that, given the district

It's the rural outskirts of pittsburgh. I'm not at all convinced that any other type of dem can win in the area.

There is a positive way to look at this though. Since PA is losing a representative and that representative is a D, due to R control of the redistricting, it's good that it was one of these two.

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Response to mathematic (Reply #13)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 12:50 PM

24. That's true all around. I unfortunately LIVE are the area you are calling rural outskirts of Pittsb

urgh. Funny how my area gets lumpped into that grouping.


What amazes me about the area is that I know 3 interracial couples and the white partners all hate Obama and wouldn't trust him because he's a "Muslim"


I want to move so badly just can't afford to right now.

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Response to peacebird (Reply #5)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 09:21 AM

8. It's great -- assuming the progressives can beat the Republicans in those districts

Nominating a progressive who can win is awesome. Replacing a blue dog with a progressive who can't win is stupid. Fortunately both of these are somewhat more liberal districts than last time around.

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Response to peacebird (Reply #5)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 12:36 PM

22. Assuming we don't lose those seats it's great. nt

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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 09:12 AM

6. Good. This is where it is at, people.

This is how we "take back America", throw them out when they disobey.

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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 09:29 AM

10. What is so intimidating about a blue dog?

A blue dog is something you bring out to a parade or a cheap circus.

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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 09:31 AM

11. No one has yet answered the question: Can they beat the Republicans? Their districts were redrawn to

give Republicans the advantage. All of this celebration is moot unless they can beat the Republicans.

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #11)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 09:40 AM

14. The districts themselves are a bit more Democratic than they were 2 years ago

The advantage to the Republicans is that there are fewer D districts; the districts that do remain are more solidly Democratic. Same thing as in Ohio -- Kucinich's district is even more Democratic than it was before, but it put him head to head with another D Representative.

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #11)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 09:41 AM

15. Yes, Critz can beat a Republican

Since he's currently a sitting Congressman. This was a district merge, like the kucinich/kaptur OH merge. Unlike that merge, nobody's crying over the loss of one of these guys.

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #11)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 09:49 AM

16. We will never find out if we never elect them in the primary,

So if you want progressive policy to have a voice in Congress, this is how you go about it.

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Response to bemildred (Reply #16)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 10:57 AM

18. Are you kidding me? This is something that I've been screaming about for years!!

All this blaming Obama for not "passing" liberal/progressive policies. I and many others here on DU have been spitting out a spleen trying to get people to understand that we must have MORE progressives in Congress if we want more progressive/liberal policy outcomes. So, you don't need to preach to me. I was only asking if it is possible for these progressive candidates to beat the Republicans that they will face in November. I am thrilled that Democrats went out and defeated at least one (not Critz) Blue Dog.

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #18)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 11:34 AM

19. Screaming doesn't accomplish a damn thing. nt

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Response to bemildred (Reply #19)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 11:44 AM

20. Have you ever heard of "figure of speech" or are you just trying to be a smart ass?

I am working very hard on the ground trying to get progressives in office. What are you doing? Trying to start fights on an online message board? Pathetic!

We're on the same side. There's no need for this attitude!

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #20)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 12:48 PM

23. I'm not keeping you from your work am I?

Dang, I thought you were here yapping away on a message board.
I don't know what side you are on, but it's not mine.

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Response to bemildred (Reply #23)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 01:04 PM

25. If you have nothing positive, intelligent or useful to write to me, then don't.

You are now on IGNORE. Have a nice day.

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #25)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 02:34 PM

27. "You are now on IGNORE. Have a nice day."



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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 09:38 AM

12. Good!

I'm glad the voters are awake again.

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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 12:03 PM

21. Karma can suck, can't it, guys?

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Response to Grassy Knoll (Original post)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 02:00 PM

26. How is it that progressives keep driving the Democrats to victory

only to see assholes like the Blue Dogs take it over and then ruin what we have gained? Progressives propelled Obama to victory in 2008. Blue Dogs led them to a disaster in 2010.

Fuck the Blue Dogs and fuck "conservative Dems." Good riddance to bad rubbish.

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