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Wed Jul 18, 2012, 10:52 PM

I want to go #OffTheCliff on Jan 1

Do you?

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Reply I want to go #OffTheCliff on Jan 1 (Original post)
MrScorpio Jul 2012 OP
GoCubsGo Jul 2012 #1
KarenS Jul 2012 #2
a kennedy Jul 2012 #16
Booster Jul 2012 #3
Terminator_Barbie Jul 2012 #4
Samantha Jul 2012 #5
proud2BlibKansan Jul 2012 #6
csziggy Jul 2012 #25
one_voice Jul 2012 #7
Zanzoobar Jul 2012 #8
DebJ Jul 2012 #9
SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #10
lunatica Jul 2012 #35
SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #36
carolinamg25 Jul 2012 #11
Waiting For Everyman Jul 2012 #12
DURHAM D Jul 2012 #13
kctim Jul 2012 #14
DURHAM D Jul 2012 #15
kctim Jul 2012 #20
DURHAM D Jul 2012 #22
SalviaBlue Jul 2012 #28
kctim Jul 2012 #30
DURHAM D Jul 2012 #31
kctim Jul 2012 #32
DURHAM D Jul 2012 #33
Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #17
kctim Jul 2012 #21
Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #23
BumRushDaShow Jul 2012 #18
Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #19
SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #24
montanacowboy Jul 2012 #26
Gothmog Jul 2012 #27
Gothmog Jul 2012 #29
lunatica Jul 2012 #34
afrommi Nov 2012 #37

Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Wed Jul 18, 2012, 10:55 PM

1. Yes.

Absolutely.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Wed Jul 18, 2012, 11:00 PM

2. Yes!

Lawrence explained it well.

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Response to KarenS (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 02:10 PM

16. Was kinda scratching my head, but I DO get it now......

after listening to Lawrence.....he did lay it out very nicely, and I do want #off the cliff!!!

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Wed Jul 18, 2012, 11:13 PM

3. Absofuckinglutely.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 12:00 AM

5. I am ready

Eyes wide open, over we will go. And we will love every minute of it.

Sam

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 12:01 AM

6. Explain to the unenlightened?

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #6)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 04:46 PM

25. Lawrence O'Donnell says it will END Grover Norquist control of Congress

If Congress allows the Bush Tax Cuts to expire (go "off the cliff") at the end of the year, then force the Republicans in Congress next year to pass tax cuts for ONLY the 99% (or whatever percentage actually deserves them).

Link to video and article: http://thelastword.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/19/12837776-submit-designs-for-off-the-cliff-campaign

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 12:04 AM

7. Yes.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 12:06 AM

8. You have my blessing. Walla!

 

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 12:06 AM

9. Yes. But when he first said that, the image I got was

the commercial where a Republican is pushing an elderly woman in a wheelchair
off the cliff.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 12:08 AM

10. I'm lost

can you at least find me before we go off the cliff?

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Response to SunsetDreams (Reply #10)

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 04:14 PM

35. Read response #13

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Response to lunatica (Reply #35)

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 04:40 PM

36. Thanks :)

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 02:15 AM

11. Already jumped

O'donell described it beautifully. Republicans and Norquist be scared be very scared. Democrats please for once stand your ground and do the right thing.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 02:25 AM

12. Yes! #OffTheCliff, and #TaxTheRich, and #BringJobsHome

Very cool to see those trending on Twitter right now. And to see the 'thuggers freaking out about it!

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 01:14 PM

13. For those who don't know...

Here is what this post is about -

http://www.democraticunderground.com/101742454

video from last night's Lawrence O'Donnell MSNBC show

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 02:02 PM

14. Not if it means my taxes go up

 

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Response to kctim (Reply #14)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 02:07 PM

15. Not even for just one or two weeks?

Edit - sorry, missed the fact you are a 1%er

Of course you don't want your taxes to go up.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #15)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 03:27 PM

20. Nope, not even for "just" a few weeks

 

Like the majority of Americans, my wallet is a big part of my vote. You cut my pay, I have less enthusiasm to vote for you.

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Response to kctim (Reply #20)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 03:39 PM

22. Are you a democrat?

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #22)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 05:09 PM

28. His sig says he's a 1%er...

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #22)

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 02:23 PM

30. Been Democrat my entire life

 

Democrat, not liberal or progressive.

Are you under the false impression that ALL Democrats enjoy paying high taxes?

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Response to kctim (Reply #30)

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 02:29 PM

31. The question was - Are you a democrat ? (note small d)

You know... someone who believes in equality. Which would, of course, mean fair taxing policy.

I guess you are not.

So, why are you here?

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #31)

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 03:01 PM

32. Give me a break

 

The mistake you make is in thinking that YOU get to define "equality for all people," and you do not.
Raising taxes on us lower income people at this time would create undo hardship on us and I am not willing to suffer additional hardship because progressives THINK Republicans will fold.

You want to raise taxes on the wealthy, fine. But do it without raising mine.

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Response to kctim (Reply #32)

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 04:06 PM

33. Huh?

What is this "us lower income people"? Which is it - are you high income or low income?

"suffer additional hardship" LOL if you are indeed 1%.

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Response to kctim (Reply #14)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 02:12 PM

17. Even if it keeps the economy from collapsing, again?

Your taxes are going to go back to where Clinton had them, deal with it.

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Response to Motown_Johnny (Reply #17)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 03:35 PM

21. Your OPINION

 

that the economy will collapse, means nothing. Your OPINION that people should suffer hardship so that you can win some political point, means nothing.
You OPINION doesn't mean jack-shit on this.

Deal with it.

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Response to kctim (Reply #21)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 04:38 PM

23. Well, the economy did collapse while we had these tax rates.

Also the people who are actually suffering hardship are not in the one percent. The very fact that you think you are the ones suffering hardship proves beyond any doubt that it is your OPINION that is mistaken here.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 02:20 PM

18. Go for it

I usually can't stay up to watch LO, but did and he burst out of the gates as soon as he opened the show!

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 02:42 PM

19. I've been saying that about the Bush tax cuts for over a year


why are people just catching on now?



I'm not crazy about the cuts to domestic spending that are included with going off that cliff but the Bush tax cuts need to go away so we can pass our own tax cut bill. The Obama Tax Cuts must be the new norm and the new phrase used for the next decade.

I would even try to include a higher tax bracket or two for people making very large amounts of money and place higher rates on them. Let the (R)s fight a tax cut for 98% of American, even if it does raise taxes on 1%. Screw 'em.


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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 04:44 PM

24. It will be painful for a few weeks

But if that's as long as it lasts, it won't have a long-term deterimental effect on the economy. If it stretches out too long, and the lower and middle class get stuck with a sizeable tax increase, it will do some damage in that disposable income will be reduced.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 04:51 PM

26. I'm ready to go!!!!

absolutely off the cliff

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 04:53 PM

27. Yes

I really support this campaign. I love the The Last Word

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 06:14 PM

29. Button Design contest

THe Last Word is having a button design contest for the official "Off the Cliff" campaign button http://thelastword.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/19/12837776-submit-designs-for-off-the-cliff-campaign?lite

I have a button machine and can make up some samples if anyone has a good design

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 04:11 PM

34. Yes.

This type of opposition is something I really like. Almost always there's a way of taking the power away from someone which doesn't entail direct confrontation or conflict. It usually entails going through the 'back door' and taking the power away in a way the power monger is incapable of stopping.

It's kind of like Wiley Coyote and the Roadrunner. Let Norquist hang there in mid air off the cliff so he falls because of his own actions.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Thu Nov 1, 2012, 12:04 PM

37. Off the cliff

Yes, After we fall off the cliff, AND Obama wins taxes for the middle class and working poor will DECREASE. We need to give President Obama a good congress that loves this country and is willing to negotiate a new tax code. If Romney wins, he will send social programs to the states and state taxes will rise in those states that adopt the programs. The wealthy who don't want to pay higher state taxes will move to states that do not adopt those programs. And the middle class and working poor who cannot move will be overwhelmed with taxes. Government needs to exist to regulate. They are not there just to collect taxes and make policy that protect wealth.
Privatization of government is fascism. We cannot allow our taxes to go to CEO who will require millions of dollars in salaries. Those will have to come from us. Our taxes will have to go up. We prefer to pay a civil servant's salary instead of private companies CEOs salaries.

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