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Wed Jun 20, 2012, 07:58 AM

President Obama leaps ahead of Romney in Bloomberg poll; Romney seen as 'out of touch'

Barack Obama leads challenger Mitt Romney 53 percent to 40 percent among likely voters, according to a new Bloomberg National Poll published Wednesday.

Conducted June 15 through 18, the poll reflects Romney's weakness more than Obama's strength, according to Bloomberg, and shows Romney has yet to recover from a damaging Republican primary.

The Romney campaign has seized on Obama's ill-timed "The private sector is doing fine" comment, with an ad, titled "Doing Fine?" However, a majority (55 percent) of likely voters still view Romney as out of touch with average Americans, according to the Bloomberg poll, compared with 36 percent who say Obama is out of touch.

Meanwhile, 39 percent of Americans view Romney, the former Massachusetts governor and private equity executive, favorably, while 48 percent see him unfavorably.


read: http://www.bizjournals.com/boston/blog/mass_roundup/2012/06/obama-leads-in-bloomberg-poll.html


U.S. President Barack Obama waits during the group photo session of the G20 Summit in Los Cabos June 18, 2012. G20 leaders will kick off two days of meetings in the Pacific resort of Los Cabos on Monday.

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Reply President Obama leaps ahead of Romney in Bloomberg poll; Romney seen as 'out of touch' (Original post)
bigtree Jun 2012 OP
Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2012 #1
Dawgs Jun 2012 #7
NNN0LHI Jun 2012 #2
DCBob Jun 2012 #3
Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2012 #13
DCBob Jun 2012 #14
rocktivity Jun 2012 #23
hifiguy Jun 2012 #30
rocktivity Jun 2012 #33
calimary Jun 2012 #38
malaise Jun 2012 #4
Dawgs Jun 2012 #8
CTyankee Jun 2012 #44
malaise Jun 2012 #45
CTyankee Jun 2012 #46
KharmaTrain Jun 2012 #5
Fawke Em Jun 2012 #9
KharmaTrain Jun 2012 #11
Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2012 #12
KharmaTrain Jun 2012 #19
KharmaTrain Jun 2012 #21
magical thyme Jun 2012 #16
uponit7771 Jun 2012 #20
Robbins Jun 2012 #15
Hippo_Tron Jun 2012 #37
SidDithers Jun 2012 #6
WI_DEM Jun 2012 #10
90-percent Jun 2012 #17
EnviroBat Jun 2012 #18
Aviation Pro Jun 2012 #40
JohnnyRingo Jun 2012 #22
Fawke Em Jun 2012 #27
JohnnyRingo Jun 2012 #28
Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2012 #31
Scurrilous Jun 2012 #24
Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #25
graham4anything Jun 2012 #26
Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2012 #32
PatrynXX Jun 2012 #29
Fozzledick Jun 2012 #34
CobaltBlue Jun 2012 #35
demgrrrll Jun 2012 #39
lindysalsagal Jun 2012 #36
Gman Jun 2012 #41
Kolesar Jun 2012 #42
McCamy Taylor Jun 2012 #43

Response to bigtree (Original post)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 07:59 AM

1. Bloomberg has polls? Where have I been. nt

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 08:59 AM

7. They've had polls for years - just not that often. n/t

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 08:04 AM

2. Kaboom

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 08:06 AM

3. That sounds about right.

Finally a national poll that makes sense.

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Response to DCBob (Reply #3)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 09:36 AM

13. sounds like Obama's strategy part I of making Romney look weird is paying off...thanks in large

part to Romney actually being weird

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #13)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 09:39 AM

14. Maybe the ads are working.

I have seen a few recently. Anyway its very good news if its accurate.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #13)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 11:24 AM

23. Romney has done an excellent enough job of making HIMSELF look weird

I nicknamed him "The Candidate From Another Planet" months ago -- and Romney is the only person who "made" me do it!


rocktivity

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Response to rocktivity (Reply #23)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 02:20 PM

30. He has all the famililar affability of Beldar Conehead.

And less personality. At least the Coneheads never flip-flopped on being from "France."

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Response to hifiguy (Reply #30)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 02:52 PM

33. But unlike Mitt, the Coneheads have a LEGITIMATE excuse for not quite fitting in as earthlings

Last edited Thu Jun 21, 2012, 03:56 AM - Edit history (2)

They WERE from another planet!!!


rocktivity

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Response to rocktivity (Reply #33)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 11:51 PM

38. GOOD one! Nailed it!

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 08:06 AM

4. Better than my blue mountain coffee this morning

I'm lovin' it.
Poor Joe Scum is not too happy

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Response to malaise (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 09:00 AM

8. Did that actually mention it?

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Response to malaise (Reply #4)

Thu Jun 21, 2012, 09:02 AM

44. I loved the way everyone was solemnly trashing Bloomberg.

"They usually have good polls...bwah..."

Spinning furiously I note...

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #44)

Thu Jun 21, 2012, 11:46 AM

45. My view is that any poll that does not show Obama leading by a distance

is suspect

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Response to malaise (Reply #45)

Thu Jun 21, 2012, 12:00 PM

46. You and me both, Malaise!

Maybe we can't be all that objective but I don't see ANY enthusiasm for Mitt Romney and the pundits are just spinning their heads off trying to explain how Obama "could lose the election."

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 08:15 AM

5. How Nice...Means Nothing...

Just as I will dismiss any national "popularity" poll that shows President Obama losing by 13 points I also don't think much of this one. The major reason is we don't have a national election but 50 separate state elections...that's all that matters. This is good stuff for the talking heads on the teevee to waste hours of electons mental masturbating about but tomorrow will come yet another poll that shows different and all the happy dancing today will turn to hand wringing the next...

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Response to KharmaTrain (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 09:20 AM

9. True, but Obama's beating Job Destroyer there, too.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

(too many polls there to post)

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Response to Fawke Em (Reply #9)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 09:28 AM

11. That's What I Watch...

Nate still is the best site to follow what's going on and he does focus on the state by state numbers not the beauty pageant ones.

Rmoney has a big hole to dig out of...and he can't do it pandering with the south alone. My concern is with the House and Senate races where the SuperPac money is really going to be felt.

Cheers...

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Response to KharmaTrain (Reply #11)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 09:34 AM

12. I agree...what a mess we will be in if they get both houses. Surely, surely

they won't do nothing for 4 more years, how could the country survive? guess if they
can't get 60 - can't overturn vetoes - but then nothing will get done. zero.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #12)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 10:21 AM

19. It's The "I've Got Mine" Attitude...

The biggest problem of the beltway is it's an industry town...one that isn't suffering the same fate of thousands of small towns that saw their factories close up and jobs get outsourced. This is a boom town where billions are flowing through K Street and legislation is bought and sold...and we live in a 24/7/365 election cycle now. There's a growing industry in elections...thanks to Citizens United...the money has never been better and the good times are rolling. Meanwhile the rest of the country can rot.

Reid has been a poor leader and not only allowed the rushpublicans to push through that 60 vote rule once but twice. He now claims he won't be fooled again. Care to bet a shiny dime on that one? The problem is the Senate lives by "protocol" and this is upheld even at the expense of the best interests of millions. It's all about "process". And it's a reason why their popularity is in single digits...but they don't care. Once you're in the beltway bubble you're insulated and isolated from the problems of the "little people".

Sorry to sound so cynical and pessimistic but I see obstruction as a succesful tool that continue to be used against this President and Democrats and that there's little push by the DCCC or DNC to really get things in gear for November yet.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #12)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 11:12 AM

21. We Came Real Close To The Abyss...

Seems few remember those dark days of 2005-06...the rushpublicans not only "won" the Presidential election but also increased their hold on the House & Senate. In the '06 election the Democrats were facing the possibility of a veto proof rushpublican House and Senate. I thank Mark Foley and his Blackberry for saving us from that fate, but Democrats won not because of who they were but because they weren't the other guys. Unfortunately the electorate has a short-term memory and we now face a similar situation where the rushpublican could make gains in the House and Senate that will only prolong this country's decline...if not accelerate it...

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Response to KharmaTrain (Reply #11)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 09:45 AM

16. at least it will help if Obama has really big coattails to hang on to nt

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Response to KharmaTrain (Reply #11)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 10:54 AM

20. +1, by August rMoney should be done...in the high 30s on approval, he's pandering to a narrow

...base hopping to increase turn out but if every white voter voted for rMoney he could still lose giving swing state votes

The real issue is congress, it's easier to by a congress person than the president

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Response to Fawke Em (Reply #9)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 09:41 AM

15. 538

Chance to win Obama 63 % Romney 36%

Popular vote projection Obama 50% Romney 48 %

Electoral Vote Projection Obama 290 Romney 247

Indiana,NC,and Florida would flip to Romney In this projection.Obama would keep the Kerry States,the Gore states of Iowa and NM.
Plus keep Nevada,Ohio,and Virginia.

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Response to KharmaTrain (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 09:25 PM

37. There are 50 states, but they don't each vote in a vacuum, especially not in a presidential election

If the President really does have a 13 point lead, his odds of losing the electoral college are almost nill.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 08:29 AM

6. DU rec...nt

Sid

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 09:27 AM

10. this is the only poll I've seen that type of national edge for any candidate, I'd like

to see other polls back it up before I get too excited.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 10:09 AM

17. Don't forget

Unverifiable electronic voting machines.

Obama could win with a 95% majority and those stinking machines still in use all over the fucking place could still declare Rmoney the winner.

Not to mention the aggressively disenfranchised voters in Republic governed states!

-90% Jimmy

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 10:11 AM

18. Maybe voters are confused as to who Romney actually is...?



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Response to EnviroBat (Reply #18)

Thu Jun 21, 2012, 12:44 AM

40. Close...

...but it's Lurch the Fucking StiffTM

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 11:16 AM

22. The Romney campaign is calling this an outlier

However, the candidate just recently got up before a crowd and remarked at how "amazing" it is that he can get a sandwich at a Sheetz gas station. He asked the crowd if they ever heard of such a thing where he can just push on what he incorrectly called a "touch-tone keypad" (he meant a touch screen) and his sandwich comes to the counter. Apparently it astounded him that this would be possible without a maitre'd and full waitstaff.

Mitt Romney has proven himself so out of touch with average Americans, he seems almost like an alien who just arrived on Earth and is struggling with our terms and customs, much like the Jeff Bridges character in "Starman". Until recently, he's kept himself mostly to private fundraisers attended by his lofty peers. Romney is self-destructing before the public media, and that will swing polls downward. They call it an "outlier", I call it the beginning of a trend.

His only hope now is to hurry the pick for VP and pray that person can add a sense of humanity to the campaign. Team Romney will have to thrust that candidate into the spotlight to explain Mitt's positions in a language we can understand while Mitt himself handles daily fundraising at the country clubs.

It'll be interesting if that pick is Pawlenty because his speaking skill rivals that of a Disney World animatron. His mouth moves while a droning monologue emanates from the podium, and his limbs move in a distracting pre-programmed sequence unrelated to his words that leaves listeners struggling to recall what he just said.

Please, let it be T-Paw.

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #22)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 12:27 PM

27. He can call it what he wants, but the fact is that this

poll surveyed "likely voters," and not "registered voters."

Likely voters are motivated. I can be registered to vote and, if I'm white and live in the right neighborhood, I can skip voting for years and still be registered (if I'm of color and/or have a foreign-sounding name, I could vote religiously, in every primary and local election and still lose my privilege).

That said, we don't vote as a united nation, we vote state-by-state, but this poll just shows that the media meme that people won't vote for Obama because of the economy is as out-of-touch as Romney. People see changes happening despite Republican obstructionism and may, as a result of the War on Women, even gift Obama with a Democratic congress. (I may be dreaming on that last part).

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Response to Fawke Em (Reply #27)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 12:55 PM

28. I've been questioning the neck and neck media horse race for months.

I know there are Obama devout haters who would vote for a ressurected Richard Nixon before they would cast a Democratic ballot this fall, but all I hear from Team Romney is "don't vote for me".

On every issue from immigration to gay rights, Romney cedes the edge to Obama by avidly standing firm against the voting bloc. He speaks of union members as if they are a national threat, and tells young people his White House will ignore their concerns. His only olive branch to women is that while he "supports" them, he will have to walk back every gain they've struggled for in the last 50 years.

Poor people are told they will see relief through a form of tough love that involves termination of benefits, and the elderly can expect deep cuts in social security under a Romney administration. People losing their homes to predator banks are advised by Romney to learn to swim through the financial tide that sweeps over them and expect no help from his Oval Office.

In nearly every case exept the uber-wealthy and bigotted middle aged white males expecting some magic trickle down, the Romney message is "vote for the other guy", but the media still portrays the race as a dead heat. I suspect the reason is the same as when Don King promotes a lopsided bout as the "fight of the millenium". To keep us tuned in.

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Response to Fawke Em (Reply #27)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 02:37 PM

31. The Corporate Media is falling all over themselves at this poll. It's like they're incredibly

disappointed that their unwillingness to vet Mitt Romney hasn't seemed to pay dividends. It seems that many of them are close to tears wondering why anyone would support Obama with the economy the way it is. It's like they are rooting for the economy to fail, just as Republicans are doing, so that they can blame Obama and not the Republicans who are deliberately obstructing progress.

I'm hoping to God that Americans are finally waking up. They may be angry at Obama for whatever reason, be it the economy or something else on the long list of Obama transgressions. *rolling my eyes*

And yet, perhaps maybe...just maybe Americans can see what the Republicans are doing. Maybe the Independents, especially are seeing that something is wrong.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 12:00 PM

24. K & R

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 12:15 PM

25. I like the sound of this!

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 12:19 PM

26. This poll is probably the nearest to truth of all of them

 

I would say this poll is close to where the polls should be and probably this poll includes a better % of the different voters than the other.

This race is not close, but the MSM wants it to be.

I would say Obama +8 at this point, and way over 300 in the electoral vote (with only 270 needed.)

Remember in 2008 they claimed McClain was close all the way and election night no one (even MSNBC) would dare say otherwise
til later on.

and if a Fox/Rasmussen poll takes a poll of 80% Fox voters, whaddaya think the outcome will be, why is Ras even included in the composite polls at all?
Last time you looked, how many of any minority was in the audience at a Romney event? Even one???

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #26)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 02:38 PM

32. I actually noticed that Republicans try to put a few blacks in the background to make it look

as though they have diverse crowds. I don't know what makes me angrier: the fact that they think we're that fucking stupid, or the minorities that allow themselves to be used as pawns.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 02:04 PM

29. out of touch even among most normal Republicans

lets see anti gun, women, pro choice, anti women, anti poor, anti middle class, anti american (yes I can say that. calls the public sector as not american in saying we don't need more public sector jobs, we need jobs for real americans.) and oh anti gun. that and he's a pretender. and actions speak louder than words..

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 03:23 PM

34. What really strikes me about this is Romney's 39/48 unfavorable rating.

Nobody wins when their favorably is that far under water.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 08:35 PM

35. Not encouraged

Typically what happens when an incumbent president wins re-election is he gains in his electoral-vote score. To do that, it would be necessary to have an increase in the popular-vote margin. And that refers to a shift (however small or big).

All the polls I have come across are insisting that this is a 1- to 3-point race, meaning President Barack Obama loses about 4.26 to 6.26 off his 7.26% victory, in 2008, over John McCain.

A 13-point victory would mean gaining nearly 5.75. That means some states President Obama didn't get in 2008 would flip to him for 2012. (I'm looking at Arizona, Georgia, Missouri, and Montana as a quartet that would stand out.)

Too early to say?

Well, it's the next-to-final week in June.

Obama is in danger of getting unseated. He's either Woodrow Wilson, nearly 100 years later, or he's going to have to turn this around. And typically an incumbent who gets reduced (in bid for re-election) gets reduced right out of the White House.

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Response to CobaltBlue (Reply #35)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 11:55 PM

39. Don't be so glum. He will win.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 08:57 PM

36. I really really like that photo. Can't say exactly why.

Cute/smart/cute/smart.. oh, hell. He's so cute when he's being smart.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Thu Jun 21, 2012, 03:54 AM

41. Teaching Romney how to look like he's in touch is like tryin to teach Ralph Stanley Country Western

It just doesn't work.

This will be Romney's ultimate reason why he lost.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Thu Jun 21, 2012, 07:02 AM

42. Gazing stones and secret underwear

We're not done with you yet, Willard

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Thu Jun 21, 2012, 08:57 AM

43. 48 % unfavorable for Romney? This is what Citizens United caused.

The press held up each and every GOP rival as the Great (Not Romney) Hope, thanks in large part to a handful of donors who were willing to give millions to keep the chances of people like Newt alive. Any surprise that Americans now see Romney as leftovers?

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