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Mon May 28, 2012, 04:07 PM

 

Remember the time when ECHELON was just a tinfoil hat conspiracy theory?

Those were the days, I tells ya.

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Reply Remember the time when ECHELON was just a tinfoil hat conspiracy theory? (Original post)
Zalatix May 2012 OP
Octafish May 2012 #1
99th_Monkey May 2012 #3
jberryhill May 2012 #2
Octafish May 2012 #4
jberryhill May 2012 #5
Octafish May 2012 #6
jberryhill May 2012 #7
WriteWrong May 2012 #8
Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #9
Zalatix May 2012 #10

Response to Zalatix (Original post)

Mon May 28, 2012, 04:15 PM

1. It was a simpler time, yes.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #1)

Mon May 28, 2012, 04:54 PM

3. That's a weird link

as there is no way to comment on it, like
I am doing now with your post.

Interesting stuff though. It does make a
certain amount of sense. JFK, MLK, RFK,
murders were all monumental shifts to the
dark side, from which we still have not
recovered. Instead the Coup is raping
America for all it's worth, monitarily, as
well as rendering Constitution meaningless.

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Response to Zalatix (Original post)

Mon May 28, 2012, 04:40 PM

2. No

But I remember when there were a lot of tinfoil hat conspiracies about how it was being used to lock people up in FEMA camps.

Perhaps you might point to something which called it a "tinfoil hat conspiracy theory".

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #2)

Mon May 28, 2012, 06:43 PM

4. I don't remember that.

I do remember how US Senator Frank Church saw the implication of CIA domestic operations and the NSA using its technology in violation of its charter to spy on Americans.



“That capability at any time could be turned around on the American people and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything: telephone conversations, telegrams, it doesn’t matter. There would be no place to hide. If this government ever became a tyranny, if a dictator ever took charge in this country, the technological capacity that the intelligence community has given the government could enable it to impose total tyranny, and there would be no way to fight back, because the most careful effort to combine together in resistance to the government, no matter how privately it was done, is within the reach of the government to know. Such is the capability of this technology.

I don’t want to see this country ever go across the bridge. I know the capability that is there to make tyranny total in America, and we must see it that this agency and all agencies that possess this technology operate within the law and under proper supervision, so that we never cross over that abyss. That is the abyss from which there is no return.” -- Frank Church, 1975


Gee. That foreshadowed all the domestic full-spectrum domestic spying operations to come.

Oh. Almost forgot: Something that is no theory: The ONE and ONLY Telcom executive to oppose the illegal surveillance got railroaded on insider trading -- the very same law that all the Wall Street insiders and their toadies on Capitol Hill somehow circumvent. What a coincidence!

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Response to Octafish (Reply #4)

Mon May 28, 2012, 06:48 PM

5. I am waiting for an answer to my question


Specifically, when was the time that Echelon was dismissed as a tinfoil hat conspiracy theory.

I guess you don't know either.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #5)

Mon May 28, 2012, 07:20 PM

6. Actually, I have written about ECHELON on DU.

Know your BFEE: Spying on America isn t just business, it s tradition.

Sorry, I don't remember what you implied before your clarification.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #6)

Mon May 28, 2012, 07:25 PM

7. Once more, with feeling....


The subject line of the OP is:

"Remember the time when ECHELON was just a tinfoil hat conspiracy theory?"

Would you care to identify, even in your thread, where "ECHELON" is dismissed as "just a tinfoil hat conspiracy theory"?

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Response to Zalatix (Original post)

Mon May 28, 2012, 08:00 PM

8. Yep. I Remember when the CIA smuggling drugs was tinfoil-hat too, and the NSA spying on Americans

 

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Response to Zalatix (Original post)

Mon May 28, 2012, 08:04 PM

9. I remember when many people were dismissing it as such. n/t

 

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Response to Egalitarian Thug (Reply #9)

Tue May 29, 2012, 03:18 AM

10. Now the general feeling is, "Okay, it's true. So? We need it."

 

Frog, water, pot.

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