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Sat Apr 6, 2013, 01:53 PM

Economic War or Peace? A Political Decision.

Peace is precious, war is terrible. But the vast majority of us, Democrats included, accept that despite all of our best efforts, sometimes there is a time when a people must stand and fight. That of course is how this nation was founded, through a war in which thousands of lives were lost to the resulting violence. They say there is a stalemate in Washington.True enough, so how will it be broken? War or Peace?

No I am not proposing violence now, but I do see us in a political war. The Republicans and those they serve have closed off all other options, we are left to either retreat or stand and fight, knowing full well that lives are lost in any real fight, and this is definitely a real fight. When do you refuse to pay ransom to a kidnapper? When must pirates be fought rather than bought off?

The Republicans continually hold our economy hostage and demand concessions not to harm it. Yes they are fully capable of cutting off one of that hostages fingers if their demands are not met. One day they hold unemployment benefits hostage, the next day medicare reimbursement payments. They choose their hostages well, knowing that real suffering will be faced by many if their demands are not met, and we of course deplore real suffering, and so we continue to negotiate. And so they continue to hold hostages.

At what point do we declare war or do we ever? At what point do we say we must suffer casualties in a fight now in order to abolish a tyranny that has seen this nation's wealth systematically plundered over the last three decades, transferred from the yearly incomes of the vast majority of American citizens into the coffers of the one percent in order to feed their gluttony habits? Now even that isn't good enough. Now they demand that we shrink the bare minimum economic safety net that tens of millions of Americans are barely clinging on to. Lost for all time moving forward under the terms that they propose, and that our President is seemingly agreeing to.

Fighting back now might well cause significantly more real pain in the short term as we engage in this economic war, than if we retreated once again. That is always the strongest argument for appeasement, but is appeasement really in our long term interests?

How many lives must be sacrificed to a widening circle of poverty? When does "retirement" become the same, for all practical purposes, as being a dead man walking? How many of us even get to decide anymore when we become too old for gainful employment? Which "trim" breaks the Camel's back? People are evicted when they offer to pay most of the rent.

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Reply Economic War or Peace? A Political Decision. (Original post)
Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 OP
slipslidingaway Apr 2013 #1
Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #2
slipslidingaway Apr 2013 #3
Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #4
slipslidingaway Apr 2013 #5
slipslidingaway Apr 2013 #6
dawg Apr 2013 #7
slipslidingaway Apr 2013 #8
Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #9

Response to Tom Rinaldo (Original post)

Sat Apr 6, 2013, 08:09 PM

1. knr, certainly something to think about, thanks. n/t

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Response to slipslidingaway (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 6, 2013, 09:49 PM

2. Thanks for the K&R. And this now is my K n/t

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Response to Tom Rinaldo (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 6, 2013, 11:04 PM

3. Silly me ...

I thought a perfect time to stand and fight would have been with a universal health care system, an opportunity to speak of the consequences to Medicare and other "entitlement" programs especially with all the boomers moving to Medicare and SS.

Unfortunately that chance was missed and we're still compromising




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Response to slipslidingaway (Reply #3)

Sat Apr 6, 2013, 11:20 PM

4. Me too. Medicare for all, building on an extremely popular government service

And a public option certainly didn't seem too much to ask or fight fervently for. The successful model of Medicare was rarely even mentioned let alone trumpeted during that prolonged public political debate. And that is how 3rd rails get defused.

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Response to Tom Rinaldo (Reply #4)

Sun Apr 7, 2013, 09:48 AM

5. Exactly " And that is how 3rd rails get defused." nt

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Response to Tom Rinaldo (Original post)

Sun Apr 7, 2013, 11:20 PM

6. Seems any fight is still a long ways off...

judging by the replies, but it is something I've thought about for years ... if not now then when?

As much as a fight, I think we also need to find common ground on important issues and move forward from there.





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Response to Tom Rinaldo (Original post)

Sun Apr 7, 2013, 11:33 PM

7. The fight is over.

The 1% controls this country. Firmly.

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Response to dawg (Reply #7)

Sun Apr 7, 2013, 11:38 PM

8. It certainly becomes more difficult ...

just like a water leak that is allowed to continue for years without being addressed. At some point it needs to be fixed, it just takes more work and more sacrifice.

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Response to dawg (Reply #7)

Mon Apr 8, 2013, 10:01 AM

9. They firmly controlled this country before also

Back in the days before Teddy and then Franklin Roosevelt. Back in the days before the Wobblies and then the AFL-CIO. Once upon a time the British firmly controlled this country also. The fight is never over. Up or down, it is never over.

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