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Mon Mar 11, 2013, 05:25 AM

"Please, do NOT pray for Japan.."

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Today of course is the anniversary of 3/11 the Tsunami and Earthquake in Japan. I was trying to think about something to write about, and so I want to relate a story about what happened shortly after 3/11.

Some of you may know that I do hang out in some chat rooms, that are open to international traffic. Because of this I have made many close friends in Asia. Places like Taiwan, Beijing, The Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia, South Korea and of course Japan.

After the Earthquake and Tsunami, one of my close friends told me he had lost some close friends there. I, of course asked him what I might do and the first thing he said, surprised me.

"Well first of all, do not tell me you want to Pray for Japan! I am sick to death of hearing this. Prayers will not provide people with blankets, food, and shelter. Japanese are mostly atheists anyway. They do follow Shinto and Buddhism but not to the point that they believe that there will be divine intervention. That some God will swoop down and save people from the on rushing waters of the ocean. What you can do is donate if you wish. Any amount will help."

He thanked me and said he was really too upset to talk any further about what had happened. He was correct, people were saying on twitter and other places on the internet that they would like to offer their prayers to Japan. To the people who lived in areas, that had ended up looking like this..



Prayers were not what they needed. In my experience, Japanese were ALL profoundly moved by all the help and good wishes they received. By and large, most Japanese have no idea that their small country is important to Americans at all. They do not feel they are important to the US in the same way they feel the US is important to them -and they were all moved by the aid they received.

I rallied many of my friends on line to dig in and donate. Over a span of four months I had donated 800 US dollars to Japan's relief effort. Many of my friends did what they could. Some only because they loved Anime, or loved to watch Japanese Drama, or loved listening to Jpop, Jrock and Visuel Kei. Many of us were concerned about our friends who seemed to go missing during that time period. Fortunately they all returned to the website and checked in with us to tell us they were okay, and had to help out locally.

It was during this time period I had started on DU a photo of the day posting, trying to keep peoples mind on how this disaster were affecting the people in Japan. There were photos of mass burials, of Buddhist priests saying their quiet prayers over the bodies of those who were gone. (I should note that, for Japanese, Buddhism comes for those who are departing this life, while Shinto and its ideas are for the living.) There were photos from the make shift shelters and mostly photos of the ruined towns taken out by the Tsunami. Of course there was also the news from Fukushima, and how children were given devices like a Geiger counter to use on their way to school to avoid hot spots.

The information was constantly coming from Japan about all that had happened and of those who preformed heroically during this bad situation. Stories of an American Teacher who died saving their students, and the horrific videos of cars being swept away as those inside were helpless to escape. The stories of brave older men, wanting to go into the plant, knowing that radiation might end their long lived lives, only to help save the area from further contamination.

DU was very supportive during that time period. I want to thank many who did donate their hard earned money to help the people of Japan. Americans have always found a way to reach out and send money to those who are in need. Our country has done this again and again in the past and for that I am grateful to all of you who did, and to have been a part in a small way for the relief effort.

some of you may recall seeing this video


**Edited to note this video makes me cry. Like all that has happened it has touched me deeply as well.






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AsahinaKimi Mar 2013 OP
malaise Mar 2013 #1
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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 05:28 AM

1. I remember the earthquake and tsunami as if it were yesterday

Excellent post

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Response to malaise (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 06:05 AM

4. doumo arigatou gozaimasu!

Thank you.

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Response to malaise (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 08:01 AM

15. Here's my original initial thread reporting it here:

Last edited Mon Mar 11, 2013, 09:46 PM - Edit history (1)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4765035

I was walking down the hall finally getting to go to bed when the text message popped up with 8 Richter scale number on my phone. I did a 180 in the hallway and rushed back to the computer. I knew it was going to be bad, but it turned out to be worse than I imagined. I turned on the TV to see the aerial live footage of the tsunami (it's 2 a.m. ET, remember), and I began to realize I was watching people die.

The first photo thread I did: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=612443&mesg_id=612443

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Response to Hissyspit (Reply #15)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 08:18 AM

16. How I remember

Thanks Hissyspit.

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Response to Hissyspit (Reply #15)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 09:09 AM

18. Who could forget many of those images..



It was a nightmare.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Reply #18)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 09:55 PM

91. Look at posts #80 and #47.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 05:34 AM

2. I second that. EXCELLENT post.

Thank you for a reality check that continues to sink into the apathy pit.
BHN

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Response to BeHereNow (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 06:06 AM

5. doumo arigatou gozaimasu!

Thank you.

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Response to BeHereNow (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 12:38 PM

41. Japan

the only thing prayer achieves : making the person praying feel good about themselves having " done something " , albeit not something the people really need , actual physical support .

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Response to kardonb (Reply #41)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 01:55 PM

48. My good friend

Was so angry when I talked to him. He had seen signs every where on the internet, postings on Facebook and even twitter, saying "Please Pray for Japan". The guy was probably ten miles away from the actual devastation, had lost two or three of his best friends and all people were saying was "Please pray for Japan"



I could imagine his frustration. I also remember the story of Akane Ho and the iconic image of her sitting and crying, and how she had lost her dog, and how things turned out;

Akane Ho embraces her dog Mei at an evacuation center in Natori near Sendai, Miyagi prefecture, Japan, Friday, March 18, 2011. Mei was returned to her today, seven days after she went missing following the earthquake triggered tsunami on March 11. 2011.


Akane Ho hugs her dog Mei at an evacuation center in Natori near Sendai, Miyagi Prefecture, Japan, Friday, March 18, 2011. Mei was returned to her today, seven days after she went missing following the earthquake triggered tsunami on March 11.

It was truly an amazing story.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Reply #48)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 07:20 PM

77. Wow. Awesome!

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Reply #48)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 08:56 PM

84. Oh dear, that made me start crying like a baby.

And I don't cry easily. Thank you for sharing. It's is almost too tragic to take in.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #84)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 11:30 PM

96. And..it was just

Two years ago. Its going to take a life time to put things back to together. I remember reading about a town that decided it would move itself higher up the hill, just in case there might be a larger quake and Tsunami. Some are also building larger walls towards the ocean but remember at some places, the water was 35 foot high. Its going to take a larger wall.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 05:59 AM

3. Two hands at work do a thousand clasped in prayer.

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Response to sakabatou (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 06:08 AM

6. Excellent

a nice little kotowaza. (proverb)

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Response to sakabatou (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 06:59 AM

9. .....

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 06:22 AM

7. A rare example of man's Humanity to man...

Thank you for your poignant post and for your fund raising efforts during Japan's time of need.

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Response to ReRe (Reply #7)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 06:27 AM

8. Thank you for your kind comments

ReRe san wa totemo yasashii desu ne. Too kind.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 07:36 AM

10. Very well put

I can understand from living in another country how people don't realize how much of a part they are of an international community. I'm sure the Japanese people helped when the Boxing Day tsunami hit SE Asia in 2004 (I had been on Koh Phi Phi island just about 5 months before the tsunami and a mother and daughter from Japan was in our tour group), and when Hurricane Katrina hit in the US. Maybe the only thing you can say to people when a tragedy like that happens and they feel like unimportant is that we are all one community.

The tragedy in Japan was it wasn't one single event, but three. I can't imagine how frustrated the people who lived in that area are. It is bad enough to try to rebuild after a tsunami, but the problems with the nuclear power plant caused a 20 km "no go" zone. They say it will be 40 years before it will be cleaned up.

One of the few things coming out of the disaster is that countries are taking a closer look at their nuclear power programs and how the plants are maintained. South Korea found fake parts in their plants. A large hurricane could have caused enough damage (all the plants are near the coast as well) to cause the same damage.

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Response to davidpdx (Reply #10)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 07:49 AM

13. I was amazed to hear

That after the devastation from several Tornadoes here in the United States, many Japanese donated, in return to help us. This while still cleaning up their own towns and cities.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Reply #13)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 07:58 AM

14. Even though it's hard to say it when it comes to disasters

They should be proud of it. I think it proves that Japanese are more important then they realize.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 07:39 AM

11. Well spoken!

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Response to Katashi_itto (Reply #11)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 07:48 AM

12. Arigatou !

Thank you.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 08:28 AM

17. I watched the 2nd anniversary memorial service on NHK-TV today

Among the speakers were the Heisei Emperor, Prime Minister Abe, and several people whose lives had been devastated by the disasters.

The Japanese themselves gave a one-minute silent prayer ("mokutou") for the victims at 2:46 p.m., the time of day when the earthquake struck. It was a very moving ceremony.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 09:18 AM

19. 50,000 souls perished that day.

Among them, many children were left orphaned.

Through the hardships and the loss, the spirit of the Japanese people has inspired me. They are tough, resilient and cannot be kept down.

I love this country and I thank anyone here at DU that contributed through thoughts, words and deeds.

I also thank those of you that have chosen to remain respectfully quiet about talking solely about radiation issues, knowing that for us in Japan, it is the loss of life that was the real damage and, as of yet, no one has died from radiation. So, all of you that have chosen NOT to take this tragedy to make posts ignoring this loss of life, I thank you humbly.

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Response to Bonobo (Reply #19)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 09:23 AM

20. This was so lovely, and appropriate

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Reply #20)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 09:28 AM

21. A very famous poem.

My son had to memorize that in 2nd grade.

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Response to Bonobo (Reply #19)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 05:58 PM

71. Respectfully

There is nothing we can do for the dead. The living; can do.

Last I heard there were over 160,000 Japanese people who, because of radiation, can not go back to their homes. May never be able to. We can't do anything about earthquakes and Tsunamis, but maybe we can do something about radiation?

On the lands the tsunami washed away, people can return, rebuild, and have homes and make babies again. Not so in the places radiation rules.

When voicing concerns about radiation it is to represent the voiceless. I think of those 160,000 Japanese and their lands that may never be habitable again. I think about the future.

Japan will recover from earthquakes and tsunamis as it always has. Can it recover from radiation? That is the question.

Peace.



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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #71)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 07:25 PM

78. Respectfully

Those are just homes. Compared with lost lives, faces we will never see again, laughs we will never hear again, lips we will never kiss again, it is nothing.

Here on my island, there is a family that moved away from Fukushima area and has been living here. They are returning this month. We have become friendly and I am sad to see them leave. But there life is moving on. They are fortunate that their family is intact and everyone is healthy.

There were no deaths from the radiation and the going on and on about it in the face of 50,000 deaths smells to me like the people who do so do not "get it". I don't think we need you to speak for us as we do have mouths and we use them.

The land is habitable, the food is edible and we are still picking up the pieces of rubble from the wave. Please take it from someone that lives here and comforting the mourners of the dead.

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Response to Bonobo (Reply #78)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 07:43 PM

80. 50,000 deaths? Are you sure?

I never read that before. Last I read was 20,000.

You do know that 160,000 people had to leave their lands, right? Maybe never to return? Like I said, there is nothing we can do about earth's actions except to be warned and retreat. However, we can do something about nuclear radiation. And being as there are over 400 nuclear possible Fukushimas on this planet, my feeling is that not enough voices are being heard by those who control nuclear power.

From what I have been reading, there are many living souls around Fukushima that appreciate my speaking for them here on DU and in RL.

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #80)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 07:46 PM

81. It's 25,000. You're right.

I guess it feels like twice that many sometimes.

Speak for whoever you like, but you are commenting on the hair on a victim who lost his arm.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 09:41 AM

22. Our local PBS has been running the "NOVA" episode on the tsunami.

It's still as riveting to watch now as it was two years ago. I appreciate your video, because it shows some of the recovery, which we really aren't getting to see. I am amazed at how it has come along given the level devastation, but not surprised. The Japanese sure know how to get things done. I wish NOVA would do a follow-up episode on it.

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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #22)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 10:23 AM

26. Found this photo in

archives in DU2. I was looking for photos from back than, that I had posted.

Here you can see the waves reaching the Fukushima power plant. The size of the waves were immense.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Reply #26)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 11:00 AM

28. That is a frightening picture

Thank you for posting this thread.

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Response to Marrah_G (Reply #28)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 05:23 PM

66. It was.. the one I remember most though

Was this..


kowaii ne!!! scary!!

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Reply #66)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 05:27 PM

67. OMG

it's hard to wrap one's mind around that photo

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Response to Marrah_G (Reply #67)

Tue Mar 12, 2013, 09:17 PM

115. Just found this one in my files.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Reply #66)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 05:54 PM

70. Whoa...

Don't think I ever saw that one!
Insane!

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Response to zappaman (Reply #70)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 06:05 PM

73. Really...

You can see those trees. They are not small. The size of the cars give you some scale. It is insane.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Reply #26)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 12:41 PM

43. They discussed Fukushima in the NOVA episode.

It was really scary to watch the reactor explosions. And, it's frightening to know that the situation there is still ongoing two years later. Many of the videos I saw right after the earthquake showed the waves coming in elsewhere. One could see the water rising against multi-story buildings, one floor after another, while smaller buildings got covered with water. What saddened me was all the cars and vans that were being carried along by the waves. I kept hoping all of that their occupants were able to get to high ground before they got swept away. I still do, two years later, even though I know better.

Another thing that I found really unsettling were the huge whirlpools. NOVA featured footage a large ship spinning toward the center of one of them.

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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #43)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 02:00 PM

49. I remember this...

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Seeing the Whirlpool in some of the videos coming out of Japan. I remember thinking, how in the world is that even possible, something that large. Its quite true that Nature has powerful forces.. yet it just boggles the mind.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Reply #26)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 12:47 PM

45. It turns out that, ultimately, the tsunami was irrelevant to the meltdown.

The quake broke the cooling systems at the word 'go'. The tsunami simply compounded the problems with cleaning it up/fighting the hydrogen explosions.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 09:56 AM

23. I am so sorry.

 

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 09:57 AM

24. Rec.







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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 09:59 AM

25. A well deserved K & R.

I am not the praying kind, I long ago stopped thinking that prayer would have any effect on the real world. Change, improvement, these things require action.

Struggling with college tuition right now - and with enormous debt, but I'll donate what I can. One thing I often wonder is if there is some sort of relief effort that needs more hands. I mean, beyond the obvious financial aspects, are they in need of workers in Japan to help clean up or to rebuild?

Great post. I can't cry anymore, but if I could, your video would have me in tears.

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Response to davidthegnome (Reply #25)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 10:30 AM

27. Today I just got an email from GlobalGiving

Last edited Mon Mar 11, 2013, 05:29 PM - Edit history (1)

Japan Earthquake and Tsunami Relief Fund, a project on GlobalGiving.org that you gave $100.00 to on March 11, 2011, has posted an update on how they are using your donation. Here's the unedited update from the field:

Thank you for helping Japan - Two Year Anniversary
By Mari Kuraishi - President, Founder of GlobalGiving


This is a personal message from Mari Kuraishi, President and Co-Founder of GlobalGiving.

To the generous donors of GlobalGiving's Japan Relief Fund,

This coming March 11th will mark the two-year anniversary of the Great Tohoku Earthquake and Tsunami in Japan. A year ago, Britt and I visited our partners' project sites. While we were happy to see that the projects were making remarkable progress, we were also overwhelmed by the sight of the damage that the earthquake and tsunami brought to Tohoku.

Japan still has a long way to recover, and our partners on the ground are working hard to help rebuild the communities affected by the disaster. With your donations, children in Fukushima can go to summer camps and play outside without worrying about radiation. We supported our partner who ran special career sessions for junior high school students in Tohoku, so that they will continue to be motivated about their future. We sent young entrepreneurs like Naoko to Tohoku so that they can start businesses to revitalize local economic growth. I believe that the youth that you have helped through our fund will become the next generation of leaders.

I personally would like to thank you for supporting the recovery effort. I am touched how you continuously contributed to the fund throughout these past two years. Today, I'd like to ask you to consider giving again. To honor the two-year anniversary, GlobalGiving is running a special matching campaign for projects that are working in Tohoku. We are matching your donations 100% from March 1st to the 15th, and on March 11th, we are matching the donations 200%.

I appreciate you standing with us for supporting the Japanese people. On this day, I hope that you will join me reflecting on the loss the people have gone through and the ongoing recovery efforts.

Warmly,
Mari



http://www.globalgiving.org/dy/v2/content/search.html?vo=true&hl=true&filter=false&q=japan&x=0&y=0

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Reply #27)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 08:38 PM

82. I was going to ask where I might best give at this point

Thank you.

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Response to tavalon (Reply #82)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 11:51 PM

98. You are welcome..

I am sure even at this late juncture, they will appreciate any funds that are available.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 11:12 AM

29. Made me cry too...Thanks for posting

I hope you have a good day...


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Response to BlueCollar (Reply #29)

Tue Mar 12, 2013, 04:19 AM

112. The Light Before We Land (The Delgados)

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 11:24 AM

30. Prayer: An excellent way to sit on your ass and still feel like you helped. [nt]

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 11:28 AM

31. Dear AsahinaKimi tomodachi

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Response to tblue (Reply #31)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 11:35 AM

33. I just posted this in Video and Multimedia

But I thought I would post it here as well

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Reply #33)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 10:06 PM

93. Thanks AsahinaKimi

My mother and I watched these videos with many tears for the brave survivors.

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Response to Generic Other (Reply #93)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 11:19 PM

95. I had forgotten about this one..so

I will post this here:

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Response to tblue (Reply #31)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 11:39 AM

34. Arigatou

Some of the videos and photos I will never forget ...

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 11:34 AM

32. K&R n/t

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #32)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 11:45 AM

35. BBC News Panorama Documentary: Japan Tsunami: The Survivors' Stories

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Reply #35)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 11:49 AM

37. Thanks, I'll watch it this afternoon

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 11:48 AM

36. Kick and Rec! n/t

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Response to zappaman (Reply #36)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 12:15 PM

38. Japan M9.0 earthquake and tsunami: How it happened on 11 March 2011.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Reply #38)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 03:08 PM

55. This was very good

Very informative about what happened. The explanations of the geology of the event really made things clearer for me.
Thanks for posting this.

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Response to catchnrelease (Reply #55)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 03:23 PM

56. I have found a few other videos

That I have posted here in this posting, including one from NOVA. All of them were very informative.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 12:29 PM

39. EVERY nation's life involves me... for I am involved in humanity

Japan should never feel that the US regards it as small or unimportant. On the macro levels-- political, economic, etc.-- we are closely intertwined. We have much mutual debt to one another, for hurts and help. We're not keeping a ledger, but we know. It would be as silly to try and figure out who "owes" more to the other as it would be for an old married couple after fifty years of fighting and making up and being there for one another to try and figure out which one "needs" the other one more.

We have done each other wrongs, we have tried to atone. We have hazarded our fortunes together, and thrived or suffered.

We have learned from one another-- sometimes we've made good use of what we learn, sometimes not so much. But we have shared talent and discovery and progress and art and music and beauty and greed and ugliness and insight and ignorance.

We are each proud of our culture(s) and the things that make us different and unique-- from one another and from the rest of the world. We each secretly know we're the best, but try not to annoy each other too much about it. And on some level we laugh about the futility of this delusion, and understand it within each other. This, too, is humanity.

We have chosen many of the same paths. We still have much to teach one another, and much to learn.

And so when one of us is injured, the other can feel the pain, if we allow ourselves to do so.

Those of us, in each place, who are human, know that sharing that pain is part of what makes us human, as is helping the injury to heal.

As nations, our abilities may be limited by many things.

As people, we are limited only by the limitations we accept.

As the Japanese people have proved abundantly this past two years.

respectfully,
Bright

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Response to TygrBright (Reply #39)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 09:28 PM

88. Lovely, TygrBright!

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 12:34 PM

40. You know what I usually tell people who will pray regardless

"After you are done, take out your wallet and give some money to insert charity here."

I was told after Haiti by a very religious person, "god will provide," I countered with the "god helps those who help themselves."

We do live in a very religious society, it's life.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #40)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 01:40 PM

47. not only religious but

bigoted as well. I remember the Facebook comments like, "Well they deserved it for bombing Pearl Harbor" or other nasty comments about how "This was god's punishment for them not becoming Christians" disgusted me to no end.

The only thing to do was ignore the ignorance of comments like that and reach out and physically do something, like start a drive to raise money, or find a way to donate. I may have been born in the United States, but this place is where my family came from. My roots spread across the Pacific Ocean and I have family still there.

I think many people can understand that, if they had family from another country, and some disaster hit, they would want to do the right thing to help out as best as they could.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Reply #47)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 02:01 PM

50. Yup, and I usually go biblical on them as well

(Which they hate) something about the sins of the fathers and sons and turning the other cheek.

For somebody who is pretty agnostic I can quote it with the best of them.

It turns the hypocrisy back at 'em. As I told a fundy, "your Christian faith requires f you to cloth the unclothed, feed the hungry, heal the sick, visit he prisoner and house the. Homeless."

This person was left stammering...I was just paraphrasing the New Testament he claims to read, without opening one.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 12:40 PM

42. Japan means the world to me.

The people, the culture, the history, the land.

Two years ago, my heart broke.

The connections are real: I have friends in Japan now. I have family who have lived in Japan.

Then, when the triple-meltdown happened, Japan and the U.S. news media weren't truthful, so I did all I could to warn the people there about what was happening. This re-posting expresses, in a way, why the tragedy is so very painful:

322 years ago, Basho walked the wilderness of atomic Honshu.



Basho wrote "Journal of a Weather-Beaten Skeleton" and "Narrow Road to a Far Province."

The great man walked and saw what was then the magical Japanese frontier and today is a nightmare disaster zone.

Reasons why I love Japan, its history, culture and people, thanks to National Geographic:



On the Poet s Trail

Footsteps fall softly
Following the path
Of Japan’s haiku master.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 12:44 PM

44. Prayer does fuckall.



This was a natural process. Part of our living world. No supernatural hoo-ha caused it, and no supernatural hoo-ha can fix it.
Humans and their infrastructure were injured, humans will have to fix it.

Prayers don't fix anything.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 01:16 PM

46. Thanks, I am so sick of people thinking that prayer makes any real difference.

I have news for them. The only person who it does any good for, is the person praying. So unless you are quite selfish, you should pray for NO ONE!
Actions speak much louder, any way.

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Response to RoccoR5955 (Reply #46)

Tue Mar 12, 2013, 12:40 AM

99. Two years ago

Last edited Tue Mar 12, 2013, 01:23 AM - Edit history (1)


Buddhist Priest writes the word "Kizuna" .

"Lets Pray for Japan" almost became a slogan on Facebook and around the internet. We have seen disasters in Haiti, in China, and even here in the United States and during those events, no one ever made a huge slogan out of "Lets pray for this place." Why Japan? I have
a theory about it..

In Japan less than 1% of the population are Christians. Missionaries have been trying for years to convert the Japanese to Christianity, and yet they have not been able to do so. A lot might have to do with the History of Japan, and how the Shogun threw out many of the visitors to Japan, and had demanded that the converted Christians go with them. Those that didn't leave were slaughtered. The lords of Japan didn't want this "new" Religion there. Japan started out as Shinto ... and many years later the first Chinese Buddhist priests came to Japan, trying to spread their teachings of the Buddha.

Shintoists and Buddhist fought each other to maintain control, but eventually because of very smart Buddhist Priest, the two religions merged and became apart of each other. Buddhism for the dying... Shinto for the living. They worked hand in hand in this concept.

Now suddenly you had Portuguese Catholic priest showing up on the shores of Japan.. trying to convert the people to Christianity. You can imagine how well that went, especially after the fighting about which religion would be apart of Japan.. Buddhism or Shinto.

Japanese are very superstitious people. To become Christian was almost like inviting bad luck. Mormon Missionaries have tried to go to Japan to convert the Japanese, but have always come back disappointed. Other Christian groups have tried to go to Japan and convert them as well..only to be turned back. While Christianity has done well in South Korea and even China... Japan was a nut that could not be cracked, only because of its history.

This slogan of "Pray for Japan" was put forth probably because it made sense to Christians.. but probably made no real sense to the people of Japan.

Some of you may remember this badge:


The kanji reads: Kizuna (bonds, ties, fetters) This badge represented something that makes sense to the Japanese people. We will never give up.. We are bond together.. We have the fighting spirit to go on no matter what. What I like to call the "ganbatte" spirit... or do your best. Kids going to school are often told "ganbatte kudasai.. Ganbariyo!" do your best. This is ingrained in Japanese culture.

This makes more sense than to sit and pray for something, hoping it will happen. Get out there and endure.. we are bond together.. do your best.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 02:13 PM

51. K&R

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Response to midnight (Reply #51)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 02:26 PM

52. Surviving the Tsunami (NOVA)

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Reply #52)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 08:58 PM

86. Each story is an amazing example of not giving up.....

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 02:28 PM

53. k&r

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 02:39 PM

54. I didn't pray for them but I 'liked' the recovery efforts on Facebook

Is that a useless a thing to do too?

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 03:30 PM

57. Where are the best places to donate?

Edited to answer my own question:

Global Giving has a Japan Earthquake and Tsunami Relief fund.

Mercy Corps also has a Japan Emergency Response Fund

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Response to LongTomH (Reply #57)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 03:32 PM

58. see message #27

You can see where you dollars go exactly. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022488303#post27

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Reply #58)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 03:45 PM

59. OK, I missed that. I did Google up some links!

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 04:30 PM

60. GREAT post, Kimi!!!!

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Response to gateley (Reply #60)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 04:39 PM

62. Aw thanks..

I felt it was needed. All of this touched me very much, two years ago. The videos I have found, have shed further light on what happened. Some of it, I didn't even know.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 04:32 PM

61. k&r...

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Response to spanone (Reply #61)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 04:40 PM

63. thanks for the

kick and rec.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 04:54 PM

64. thank you, asahinaKimi for all your wonderful

posts and updates on the situation. Your calm and caring attitude has affected many very deeply.

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Response to bbgrunt (Reply #64)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 04:57 PM

65. Thank you for your kind

words.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 05:29 PM

68. NPR today

Thank you (all) for the posts. Today on NPR's Talk of the Nation interviewed two women, one Tokyo correspondent for AP and one who has written a book Above the Waves. Their stories are heart-breaking about 300,000 people still in temporary shelters, the terrible affects of Fukishima for all of Japan, the government which still wants to go back to the same nuclear industry, and the incredible resilience of the Tohoku (north) people who have suffered so much. You can listen to it online.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 05:42 PM

69. Thank you for posting that video

I had not seen it, and it did make me cry, also.

In our house, a disaster elsewhere is cause for making a donation. Dollars help buy comfort, especially since we can't just pick up and go help.

Prayers? Ok, if that makes you feel better. But only praying is like putting one of those yellow ribbon magnets on your car saying "I Support the Troops"... really? All you did was slap a cheap magnet on your car.

I wish for continued progress for the Japanese people. I was really ashamed of the anti-Japanese sentiments on FaceBook, etc. Ignorance knows no bounds when it comes to empathy, for some.

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Response to Lifelong Protester (Reply #69)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 06:04 PM

72. Some of the

Anti-Japanese sentiments were really and truly disgusting. I remember we talked about them here on DU, but I won't further repeat what had been said. It was racism in its purest and ugliest form.

I am not going to ask anyone to donate today, however if someone really wants to post #27 has the information.



I think the videos are important, especially the one called "Surviving a Tsunami" from Nova. The West Coast sits on the ring of fire. There are faults off the Washington, Oregon and California coast line. California has seen major earthquakes in the past, including the one I remember in 1989. We were lucky it was only an Earthquake. Had there been a Tsunami.. imagine what that could have done to the Bay Area? San Francisco has 812,826 people listed as living here. Oakland and the remainder of the Bay Area more. A major series of ten meter waves (32 feet high) could wreak havoc on the city and the surrounding areas. Its not a matter of if.. but when.

I hope we will not see anything like that in my lifetime.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 06:06 PM

74. Thank you for your beautiful, commemorative post on Japan's Earthquake

and Tsunami, AsahinaKimi.

We here on Kaua'i have many Japanese friends who were personally affected by the devastation. Here is a statement from our Senator Mazie Hirono..

“Today, Hawai‘i and our nation join with our friends in Japan in remembrance of all the victims of last year’s earthquake, tsunami and nuclear crisis,” U.S. Rep. Mazie Hirono, D-Hawai‘i, said in a statement.

“While this disaster took so much, it did not take the resolve, the courage or the ‘gaman,’ or strength, of the Japanese people. We in Hawai‘i and across the United States will continue to help them rebuild — from our donations to the launch of the Tomodachi Initiative, which will use educational exchanges with students to deepen the friendship between our countries. It is this investment in the future which will help heal the wounds of March 11, 2011,” Hirono said.

http://thegardenisland.com/news/local/kaua-i-marks-anniversary-of-japan-earthquake-tsunami/article_fe726f82-6c20-11e1-b7f2-0019bb2963f4.html

Japan

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Response to Cha (Reply #74)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 06:19 PM

75. That is awesome.

Ya' know, I remember waiting up till like 4am in the morning watching a live cam out of Hawaii facing an area which they thought the wave would come ashore, coming from Japan. I think many people dodged a bullet that it had not been as bad as it had. On the other hand, there was one place in the Bay Area, (And I forget where..) where someone had been killed going down to watch the Tsunami come in. The wave wrecked a bunch of sailing boats and there had been some film on it..







When I heard it was coming to the San Francisco I was really scared. I spent that morning on the phone with my mom.. for about an hour till after it passed.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Reply #75)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 06:53 PM

76. We did "dodge a bullet" here. We evacuated for the night from

where we lived in the Hanapepe Valley. I went with my landlady and her family up to a vacant house in the hills where we slept on mattresses for the night.

Thank you for the vids, Asahina. Tsunami Warnings are always scary because you don't know what will happen only that it could happen.

Here's to the strength of the People of Japan for everything that they actually have gone through.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 07:39 PM

79. Excellent post, Kimi...

Recently I`ve been spending time on the coast of Washington crabbing and clam digging.. there have been "tsunami evacuation route" signs out there for years, but after watching the videos of the disaster in Japan, just driving by those signs has become very unsettling...

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Response to opiate69 (Reply #79)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 11:47 PM

97. Believe me I know how you feel.

My house is maybe.. guessing about two miles from the Ocean. As you know, San Francisco is a city of hills, and my place sits on a slope where, if you go stand by the street, you can see the Pacific at the end of it. Now, this Tsunami traveled something like 30 miles in land, before it stopped and rolled back to the Ocean.

Imagine what a wave like that could do to San Francisco? Even sitting on the top of Mt. Davidson might not be that safe.



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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 08:43 PM

83. Prayer

Mostly a selfish act. Nice way to feel good about yourself while doing absolutely nothing.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 08:57 PM

85. There are none more ignorant and useless

than they that seek answers on their knees, with their eyes closed.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 09:02 PM

87. I am just a mess after reading through this post.

I knew it was horrible, but your post really made this personal to me. I am just crushed by seeing all the suffering.

Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #87)

Tue Mar 12, 2013, 12:59 AM

104. Not only that but we

Especially on the West Coast can learn from this. Sooner or later it will happen to us. I remember reading an article some where about a geologist who was up in Oregon. He was something like 20 miles from the shore line, where someone had asked him to explain why there was a large sand deposit in this one spot. Digging though he found it sea shells and things one would find walking along the beach. How did it get there? The area historically never was under water.

Than one day it came to him. There must have been a mega Tsunami. A wave so huge, it picked up the sand from the beach and dragged it 20 miles in land. That is enough to give anyone pause.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 09:28 PM

89. Recommend with thanks!

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Response to babylonsister (Reply #89)

Tue Mar 12, 2013, 12:53 AM

103. awww

back atcha!

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 09:42 PM

90. "Well first of all, do not tell me you want to Pray for (insert place here)."

That is the greatest and truest thing ever said! When your life is taken in a second, prayer is not what you need at that time. You need help, not words. It takes forever to even think you can just survive ever again.

I feel very much for the people affected by this. They have a long way to go still.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Reply #101)

Tue Mar 12, 2013, 02:49 AM

108. Sadly, I can't watch. PTSD issues.

The damage in it makes me remember the Joplin Tornado.

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Response to Lady Freedom Returns (Reply #108)

Tue Mar 12, 2013, 02:54 AM

109. it wasn't referring to the video

but in regards to the theme " Pray for Japan".

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022488303#post99

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Reply #109)

Tue Mar 12, 2013, 02:58 AM

110. Sorry, link for some reason sent me to post 52 not 99 the first time around.

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Response to Lady Freedom Returns (Reply #110)

Tue Mar 12, 2013, 03:00 AM

111. its okay

Thanks!

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 09:57 PM

92. K&R

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 11:14 PM

94. all I remember about the quake was Japan stole $50 million in donations

to fund the Whale Hunts. Talk about sick politicians there

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Response to PatrynXX (Reply #94)

Tue Mar 12, 2013, 01:09 AM

105. I don't think you can blame this entirely on

The government of Japan. Perhaps, like us, they have more than a few corrupted representatives. I don't blame the entire population for Japan's whaling atrocities. Even my dad, as a kid, was forced to eat whale meat from a can, that was served at his school. Notice I used the word "forced". He told me all his life, he felt like he could never get that foul taste out of his mouth..

There are not a lot of people who love or crave whale meat in Japan. Yet, like the Tobacco companies were here, they are probably a powerful group who can influence the government. I am glad they are losing money.. maybe people there will start to stand up and say we don't want this any more. Please stop!

I have talked with many of my Japanese friends on line. I have asked them about this..and many say, that it needs to stop as well. Whale meat is just not that necessary to feeding the people of Japan. And...as for the taste.. if you could see the sour look on my father's face.. He would never "want to eat that crap again." (His words,not mine.)

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Response to PatrynXX (Reply #94)

Tue Mar 12, 2013, 09:26 PM

116. "All I remember"

That says it all.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Tue Mar 12, 2013, 12:42 AM

100. I donated

I can never watch extended coverage of tragedies without making a donation - the way I see it, if I am unable to help directly, I can do the next best thing and help with a financial contribution - yes INDEED. Lovely post AsahinaKimi.

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Response to Skittles (Reply #100)

Tue Mar 12, 2013, 01:13 AM

106. Most Honored

Skittles san, doumo arigatou !

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Reply #106)

Tue Mar 12, 2013, 01:42 AM

107. awwwww

that makes me feel so honored

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Tue Mar 12, 2013, 04:33 AM

113. I had never seen that video!

I'm ferclempt.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Original post)

Tue Mar 12, 2013, 05:25 AM

114. You are not alone

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