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Fri Jan 25, 2013, 11:56 PM

ABC News showed a big problem in the gun debate...

Namely, stolen guns.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/hot-guns-fueling-crime-us-study/story?id=18318610

This is a big problem.

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Reply ABC News showed a big problem in the gun debate... (Original post)
Archae Jan 2013 OP
alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #1
BlueJazz Jan 2013 #3
krispos42 Jan 2013 #5
dsc Jan 2013 #10
krispos42 Jan 2013 #11
ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #12
dsc Jan 2013 #13
OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #9
TheCowsCameHome Jan 2013 #14
oh08dem Jan 2013 #2
Archae Jan 2013 #4
oh08dem Jan 2013 #8
Enrique Jan 2013 #6
OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #7

Response to Archae (Original post)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:01 AM

1. It would be wonderful if we had some kind of, uh, I dunno

registry or something, where every gun was tracked, and then if it was stolen, we could compile, like, I dunno, statistics or data on that, and track how these things are, y'know, like, kinda like disseminated or circulated through different communities. of, geez, if only such a thing were possible! If only there were some mechanism for figuring out who owned a gun and when, when it changed hands, if it was ever lost or stolen, what its progress was after that and from the time it was recovered! Oh, if only such a miraculous set of protocols could exist.





http://www.theatlanticcities.com/politics/2013/01/9-questions-researchers-may-now-be-able-answer-about-urban-gun-violence/4418/

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:06 AM

3. We'll just have to wait until some sort of calculating thing-a-ma-jig is invented.

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:07 AM

5. If it's stolen, then by definition it become unregistered.

So I fail to see how this helps anything.


In addition, you can't bust a prohibited person from owning an unregistered gun. You can bust them for own or possessing a gun, but not for failing to registering their gun.

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Response to krispos42 (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:17 AM

10. the gun still has a serial number

but thanks to the NRA gun stores don't have to take inventories.

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Response to dsc (Reply #10)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:19 AM

11. Well, that is something that needs to be fixed, then

But I was talking about post-sale registration.

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Response to dsc (Reply #10)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:26 AM

12. Ahhh...not entirely true

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #12)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:27 AM

13. what part isn't true

that guns have serial numbers or that gun stores aren't required to take an inventory.

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:15 AM

9. It's not like the guy who stole the weapon is going to register it.

 

It falls entirely off the map until it turns up later at a crime-scene. For all the cops know, Rand Paul could have been using for snuggling to keep warm with at night and snort up shirly-temple shots. ...

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Response to OneTenthofOnePercent (Reply #9)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 05:37 AM

14. Or use it to do harm

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:05 AM

2. The NRA response...

Gun owners that have their guns stolen need to buy more guns to replace the stolen ones... And people that don't already have guns need to buy guns to shoot the people that stole other gun owners guns.

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Response to oh08dem (Reply #2)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:06 AM

4. Of course.

Why do you think I call the NRA the "GSA?"
(Gun Sales Association)

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Response to Archae (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:13 AM

8. I'm guessing NRA membership is quite high with those that

believe the south should have won the Civil War ... maybe our side should highlight the fact that the NRA started out to train Union army members how to shoot...

I'm sure you see where I'm going with this.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:07 AM

6. for example the guns Adam Lanza used n/t

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:11 AM

7. It's a good thing criminals can't get a list of names/addresses of where to find & steal guns!

 

Oh, wait... in some cities they can.
And numerous people on DU cheered this newspaper's actions...

N.Y. news site stirs outrage after publishing gun owners' names:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-newspaper-gun-owners-20121226,0,2883615.story

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