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Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:19 AM

This gun set up is perfectly legal most places.




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Reply This gun set up is perfectly legal most places. (Original post)
ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2012 OP
Kurska Dec 2012 #1
ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #3
ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2012 #4
ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #6
ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2012 #2
exboyfil Dec 2012 #5
ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2012 #7
nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #8
ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2012 #9
nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #10
ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2012 #11
nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #12

Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:26 AM

1. There is a reason no one actually uses bump firing, it sucks

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bump_fire

"Bump firing is the act of using the recoil of a firearm to fire multiple shots in rapid succession. This process involves holding the foregrip with the non-trigger hand, releasing the grip on the firing hand (leaving the trigger finger in its normal position in front of the trigger), pushing the rifle forward in order to apply pressure on the trigger finger from the trigger, and keeping the trigger finger stationary. The firearm will recoil and then return to its previous position after the round has been fired first resetting and then pressing forward against the trigger thereby firing successive shots."

"All these techniques horrendously degrade the accuracy of the firearm, due to the necessary jerking of the weapon, which makes viable aiming impossible. The techniques trade accurate, aimed fire for an increase in the firearm's rate of fire. Bump-firing requires practice and concentration. It is uncommon to "empty the mag" without at least one stoppage. The inaccuracy, difficulty, and ammunition costs render the practice uncommon."

Someone who actually is aiming with a semi-automatic is almost always going to be more effective than someone firing in nearly uncontrolled bursts. It is very difficult to aim while bump firing, this may be true with automatic fire, but bump firing makes it even worse AND even most automatic weapons are used in short controlled bursts.

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Response to Kurska (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:35 AM

3. It also overheats the weapon and damages it

It and the big mags are just gun bling. No serious user does it or buys them.

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:40 AM

4. No serious user does what?

Sliding stocks are selling like crazy right now, especially for AR15's. Quality AR15's can take the rapid fire after all their brother the m-16 is made to shoot bursts and f/a.

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:53 AM

6. Not sure I agree with you

In military usage, full auto fire is limited and soldiers are taught not to overheat the weapon. Its a light automatic rifle not a full up machine gun like the SAW. Bumping though a 100 round double snail magazine would seriously overheat the gun and damage it.

I assume you mean one of these: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/578817/slide-fire-ssar-15-sbs-standard-battle-stock-bump-fire-stock-ar-15-mil-spec-diameter-right-hand-polymer-black They may be selling well, but I have not seen one at public range. Seems more like bling than serious stuff. Damned expensive too.

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:31 AM

2. Watch again.

These people aren't just bump firing. They're using a sliding stock which makes it a lot more accurate than bump firing by hand.


And when you have a sliding stock and a hundred round drum you have the ability to do a lot of damage really fucking quick.

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:43 AM

5. Which if it damages the weapon means that we are talking

single use. What could you want to fire off a 100 rounds as single use for degrading or destroying an expensive piece of equipment? Maybe so one who does not care about the aftermath.

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:54 AM

7. Better explanation of how these stocks work.

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:55 AM

8. Why these stocks were part of the AWB.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #8)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:05 AM

9. Technically it doesn't make it an automatic.

Its not mechanically assisted.

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:14 AM

10. But that is why they were part of it.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #10)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:17 AM

11. I didn't think they were around then.

If you're referring to the federal awb.

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #11)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:18 AM

12. I am, I remember those discussions with gun nutters.

One complaint was bayonet lugs, the other the stocks.

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