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Sat Nov 17, 2012, 08:01 AM

Romney was not a drag on the Republican party. The Republican party was a drag on him.

All of these writers are intelligent people (some of them friends of mine). None of them makes the mistake of assuming that this election should have been easy to win given the weak economy, the public’s dissatisfaction with the status quo, and the unpopularity of Obamacare. They know that the economy has been improving, that the Democratic base in presidential races has been expanding for decades, and that the public still blames George W. Bush and his party for an economic crisis that began during his second term. Nor are they entirely wrong in their diagnoses of Romney’s distinctive weaknesses and errors. They err mainly in attributing too much importance to them.

Romney was not a drag on the Republican party. The Republican party was a drag on him.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/333344/party-s-problem-ramesh-ponnuru#

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Reply Romney was not a drag on the Republican party. The Republican party was a drag on him. (Original post)
kpete Nov 2012 OP
Voice for Peace Nov 2012 #1
GoCubsGo Nov 2012 #2
ananda Nov 2012 #8
BeyondGeography Nov 2012 #3
Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #4
lalalu Nov 2012 #5
yardwork Nov 2012 #6
Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #7
HopeHoops Nov 2012 #9

Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 08:05 AM

1. both were equally a drag.



glad we're not them.

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Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 08:06 AM

2. Yep.

Six of one. A half dozen of the other.

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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 09:05 AM

8. Ditto.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 08:09 AM

3. This makes the point rather well

Aaron Blake pointed out in the Washington Post that Romney ran ahead of most of the Republican Senate candidates: He did better than Connie Mack in Florida, George Allen in Virginia, Tommy Thompson in Wisconsin, Denny Rehberg in Montana, Jeff Flake in Arizona, Pete Hoekstra in Michigan, Deb Fischer in Nebraska, Rick Berg in North Dakota, Josh Mandel in Ohio, and of course Todd Akin in Missouri and Richard Mourdock in Indiana. In some cases Romney did a lot better. (He also did slightly better than Ted Cruz in Texas, a race Blake for some reason ignored.)

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 08:50 AM

4. Romney was equally to blame...a candidate is responsible for his own campaign....

I was thinking about this very matter while walking my dog this morning. After winning the nomination Romney should have made his pivot to the center, instead he lacked the spine to do so and continued to play to the lunatic fringe of his base. If the plan was to make that pivot as soon as he walked on stage for the first debate thus throwing Obama off his game, well it was a successful tactic, but a terrible strategy. Win the battle, lose the war.

He had an opportunity to gain the trust of millions of women when Limbaugh went on his anti-Fluck campaign....Romney stepped into his own coffin when he didn't cut Limbaugh off at the knees. Sure he might have lost a few hundred thousand lunatic fringe votes, but he would have gained the votes of millions of women who were balancing on the edge of a knife because of the economy. It also revealed just how spineless he is...how can he be trusted to stand up to China, Russia, Iran when he can't stand up to Limbaugh?

So, now he's lying in the coffin he did indeed build, albeit with the assistance of others, and he gives the Obama campaign team the nails with which to seal that coffin with his 47% remarks. Neither he nor his campaign team recognized the amount of damage those remarks would do to his candidacy and their response was slow, weak and totally ineffective. It was not the fault of the republican party that both Romney and his campaign team were, and remain, so deaf they couldn't hear the screams of millions of Americans saying "No, we are not takers". There were plenty of people within the party who recognized the problem, Romney chose not to listen to them. That is a failing of candidate Romney, not the party.

I agree that the party and its platform is a major problem, but to absolve Romney of blame is, IMHO, foolish in the extreme. If the GOP gets a handle on and moderates its message or, failing that, games the primaries so a more moderate candidate can win, 2016 will be an entirely different race. I will be watching Chris Christie...if he runs and wins a second term as governor of NJ, he could well be a formidable candidate in 2016. NJ is a True Blue state, although they tend to like Republican governors. If he is reelected Christie will have proven himself to be a very adept politician, which Romney is not.





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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 08:51 AM

5. If Romney could not lead and change the

 

direction of his own party then how could he do the same for the country?

Both are drags.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 08:53 AM

6. This is a smokescreen. The Republicans picked up a lot of governorships and control of many states.

The Republican Party is now in stealth mode. While everybody is pointing at the national elections, they are quietly consolidating even more power at the state levels. And that means more Republican Secretaries of State and more vote theft in future elections.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 09:04 AM

7. Why even care why Willard lost?? He is LOSER

He should just shut up and go count his money .........
It was proven that calling them on their lies we can win, that is all that is important

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 12:58 PM

9. When you've got two 72 Datsuns with bum transitions, how can either do the dragging?

 

They have both been fucked all along.

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