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Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:36 AM

Rebellion against the Constitution is a felony! SIGN THE PETITION

"WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO:

Enforce Section 3 of the 14h Amendment

Section 3 of the 14th Amendment states: “No person shall … hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath… to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof...”

States have no Constitutional authority to secede from the United States. Threats of secession constitute a rebellion against the Constitution.

We petition that all elected officials who have signed petitions demanding secession, or who have otherwise engaged in rebellion against the Constitution by, for example, calling for the arrest of federal agents operating under Constitutional authority, be identified and removed from office."


https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/enforce-section-3-14h-amendment/fGXWgtts

Note that not only does this address the issue of secession, but also the situations like we have in Wisconsin in which some legislators have proposed arresting federal agents who enact federally-mandated health care provisions.

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Reply Rebellion against the Constitution is a felony! SIGN THE PETITION (Original post)
Lefta Dissenter Nov 2012 OP
bowens43 Nov 2012 #1
Marrah_G Nov 2012 #2
struggle4progress Nov 2012 #3
enlightenment Nov 2012 #4
SCantiGOP Nov 2012 #5
Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #6
Nye Bevan Nov 2012 #7
Locrian Nov 2012 #8

Response to Lefta Dissenter (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:40 AM

1. no thanks. what a horribly bad idea.

let's have the government punish people for what they think, say and propose.......what next imprisonment for speaking out against the federal government?

we have a voting process to remove people from office.

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Response to Lefta Dissenter (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:43 AM

2. I don't agree

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Response to Lefta Dissenter (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:50 AM

3. meh. being a fuggin loudmouth and idiot ain't illegal: it's a Murkin tradition

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Response to Lefta Dissenter (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:55 AM

4. There is no textual passage in the Constitution

or the amendments that prohibits States from seceding, so first statement of that petition is incorrect.

Insurrection and rebellion are specific terms and cannot be legally used in the fashion that this petition lays out. Sedition might be a possibility.

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Response to Lefta Dissenter (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:11 AM

5. dumb, very dumb

runs into something called free speech.
I remember a Junior High civics class where the teacher asked if anyone ever had the right to advocate the overthrow of the government. Of course, everyone said no, so he pointed out that is exactly what the out-of-power party is doing in every Presidential election. The only prohibition is to advocate that overthrow by violence or subversion.

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Response to Lefta Dissenter (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:32 AM

6. discussing secession is not rebellion.

Just as Congress can add a state, it can allow one to leave. Until the secessionists actually act outside of the law, they are not in violation of the law.

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Response to Lefta Dissenter (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:38 AM

7. Try not to be so afraid of those nutcases.

Just ignore them, and they will eventually shut up.

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Response to Lefta Dissenter (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:54 AM

8. renounce citizenship?

Isn't this like renouncing citizenship? Doesn't that have a lot of implications for voting, buying a gun etc? Might want to mention that to some of the nutbags out there

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