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Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:27 PM

 

Did Obama say that Social Security needed to be 'tweaked' in the debate or not?

Because since he did, all the people telling us to shut the fuck up and wait and see, can now shut the fuck up themselves.

WE are not idiots. WE have been studying the history and actions of the Democratic party perhaps a little longer than 2 months.

Our ancestors fought for US.

The programs they pushed FDR and others into putting in place created the best standard of living on earth and the largest healthy middle class the world has ever seen.

The right wing and their deregulation allowed millions of homes to be stolen from the middle class, crushing millions into poverty and homelessness.

We now have Millions of homeless school children who did absolutely nothing to deserve that.

They were just born into a world where the adults had grown ignorant and complacent.

Now they want to take our retirement and health care we have paid for already, that they stole to pay for wars and Big Government while giving themselves tax cuts so they could hoard more money.

Is this the history we want to leave for future generations?

FDR did not act alone, he was pushed into being the hero we remember now.

Let's make Obama a hero of the future.

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Reply Did Obama say that Social Security needed to be 'tweaked' in the debate or not? (Original post)
RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 OP
BainsBane Nov 2012 #1
still_one Nov 2012 #2
mzmolly Nov 2012 #5
RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #8
mzmolly Nov 2012 #13
still_one Nov 2012 #10
HiPointDem Nov 2012 #16
mzmolly Nov 2012 #24
Still Sensible Nov 2012 #3
RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #7
Still Sensible Nov 2012 #9
RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #11
rocktivity Nov 2012 #4
RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #6
Enrique Nov 2012 #12
RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #14
Liberalynn Nov 2012 #17
RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #18
cthulu2016 Nov 2012 #25
HiPointDem Nov 2012 #15
cthulu2016 Nov 2012 #19
Rosco T. Nov 2012 #20
RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #22
Rosco T. Nov 2012 #23
riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #21
JoePhilly Nov 2012 #26
still_one Nov 2012 #27
RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #28
still_one Nov 2012 #31
Bluenorthwest Nov 2012 #29
toddmiller Nov 2012 #30

Response to RepublicansRZombies (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:29 PM

1. He said the fund was more or less secure

and that it required a bit of tweaking but wasn't a serious fiscal concern like Medicare.

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Response to RepublicansRZombies (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:30 PM

2. He actually said that romney's views on social security were not that much different than his own.

That happened in the first debate

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Response to still_one (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:04 PM

5. Romney has several

views. As such, I'm sure the President referred to a rational statement made by Rmoney at some point in history.

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Response to mzmolly (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:49 PM

8. "rational statement made by Romney"- good one

 

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Response to RepublicansRZombies (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:20 PM

13. In hindsight,

that is funny.

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Response to mzmolly (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:12 PM

10. Good point, make a choice, a, b, or c

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Response to mzmolly (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:32 PM

16. c'mon, posters here just finished painting romney as the political anti-christ & now you're saying

 

he may have made a rational statement?

romney is the man who was going to bring on the apocalypse if elected, don't you remember?

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Response to HiPointDem (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:18 PM

24. ... A rational statement in an attempt

Last edited Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:02 PM - Edit history (1)

to garner support from rational people at one time. Not a rational statement because he IS rational.

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Response to RepublicansRZombies (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:31 PM

3. It all depends. Will it be "tweaked" with a scalpel

or a chainsaw?

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Response to Still Sensible (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:38 PM

7. none of the above

 

if we stand up for ourselves

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Response to RepublicansRZombies (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:08 PM

9. Simply raising the cap

on earnings that are subject to SS withholding would be a helpful "scalpel" tweak.

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Response to Still Sensible (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:14 PM

11. that would work

 

and they could stop borrowing from it to pay for wars and big government while giving tax cuts.

Who the hell do these people think they are anyway?

Why don't we cancel Congress' retirement and health care, THEY spent the money, not US.

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Response to RepublicansRZombies (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:37 PM

4. "Tweaking" SS is as simple as removing the salary cap

which can result in EVERYONE paying a LOWER rate.


rocktivity

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Response to rocktivity (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:37 PM

6. sounds good

 

but I don't think that was what he was talking about....

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Response to RepublicansRZombies (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:17 PM

12. keep this up, and Obama-defenders will swear at you

and tell you to slurp vomit off the floor, whatever that means.

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Response to Enrique (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:28 PM

14. I support and defend Obama- but he needs to be pushed into doing the right thing, nobody is perfect

 


And he said at some point (can't find the quote) that he wants us to push him.

He needs to be able to take the bully pulpit and say this is what they American people are demanding, and I must follow the will of the people.

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Response to RepublicansRZombies (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 03:02 PM

17. +1

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Response to RepublicansRZombies (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 03:41 PM

18. Does anyone have the quote about Obama wanting us to push him?

 

n/t

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Response to Enrique (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:21 PM

25. I am totally confused by the mixed metaphor

DUers who support entitement benefits swallow bullshit but they slurp vomit.

I still haven't figured out what they do with pee-pee. Inject it?

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Response to RepublicansRZombies (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:30 PM

15. yes he did. and he said his position on SS was similar to romney's.

 

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Response to RepublicansRZombies (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 03:46 PM

19. You are a vomit slurper. You are a vomit slurper.

Nah na na nahhh na.

You are a vomit slurper.

Only RW trolls support entitlement benefits. Well known fact.

Hey trolly-mac troll-troll.

Yeah... yer Mother is on Medicare.

You eat boogers.


<the preceding is a joke. The fact I have to explain that it is a joke is a tragedy>

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Response to RepublicansRZombies (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 03:48 PM

20. Oh FFS...

raising the cap would be a 'tweak'...

wait till you see the cards he plays before you condemm

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Response to Rosco T. (Reply #20)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:02 PM

22. has he mentioned raising the cap as a tweak?

 


Bring it on.

For the record, I fully support Obama.

I think he has a gun pointed at his head by corporations and that any capitulation he does is not exactly his fault.

I think he wants us to push him, he needs us to push him to the point he has to say "I have no choice'

This is what happened during FDR, the people pushed him to make changes, to set up the programs we fight to save today.

It has to be an unstoppable movement of We the People.

WE have to stop allowing the current Republican party nut jobs to get in the way of human progress.

WE have to be the ones to make Obama a great president in the history books, as our ancestors did of FDR.

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Response to RepublicansRZombies (Reply #22)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:08 PM

23. It HAS been mentioned... n/m

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Response to RepublicansRZombies (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 03:49 PM

21. Why yes, yes he did. Now welcome to the vomit slurping club. nt

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Response to RepublicansRZombies (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:23 PM

26. And another Manufactured Outrage Widget hits the shop room floor ... THUD.

And some say that America doesn't manufacture anything anymore.

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Response to RepublicansRZombies (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:30 PM

27. The main reason I voted for Obama was the Supreme Court. I did not and do not have any illusions

About anything else

This does not mean the president will not defend social security, we will need to find out

Nothing stops anyone from writing your congress person, senators, or president telling them what you want

Actually social security is not the problem, just raise the cap, and no more problem

That is what I believe will happen

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Response to still_one (Reply #27)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:58 PM

28. From what I read on DU, the only acceptable tweak is a raise on the cap- agreed?

 


So we'll make it clear to Congress that is the only change we will accept and draw a line in the sand.

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Response to RepublicansRZombies (Reply #28)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:37 PM

31. I agree

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Response to RepublicansRZombies (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:04 PM

29. "I suspect that on Social Security, we've got a somewhat similar position." Obama

to Romney, first debate. I called the WH and asked them to tell me what Willard's position IS, because he's had many of them. Seems Obama is the one man in America who knows and agrees with Mitt's position on Social Security. The WH has yet to send along an answer to that question.

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Response to RepublicansRZombies (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:13 PM

30. Tweaking could mean Rich Pay in More

You only pay into SS for first $110,000. If you raise that number enough then it's solvent for the next century. Given the vagueness of the Presidents' statements it's hard to say that's not part of his plan. Also, many statements obviously were made to appeal to independent voters so now he doesn't have to do that for himself anymore (maybe for party) so will just have to wait and see.

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