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Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:33 AM

Jill Kelley asks for 'diplomatic protection' from police (Updated w/Photo!)

So she thought she was immune, apparently the Generals helped her get some position at the Korean Consulate? Something like that..

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http://www2.tbo.com/news/breaking-news/2012/nov/13/2/jill-kelley-asks-for-diplomatic-protection-from-co-ar-563651/

TAMPA --

Jill Kelley so treasured her association with military leaders that the special Florida license plate on her silver Mercedes-Benz reads, "Honorary Consul 1JK."

When she called police about news crews camped out in front of her waterfront mansion, she described herself as an "honorary consul general" and asked for "diplomatic protection."

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Kelley has not spoken with reporters this week about her relationships that are at the center of the scandal. But she made her status known to Tampa police when she summoned them four times in two days to get camera crews and reporters away from her property.

"I am an honorary consul general," Kelley said in one call Sunday to a police nonemergency number. "I have inviolability. They should not be on my property. I don't know if you want to get diplomatic, uh, protection involved as well. It's against the law to cross my property. It's inviolable."

Though she has the special license plate, it remained unclear Tuesday how she qualified for it.

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:38 AM

1. Wtf?

Is she royalty? This is the strangest story ever.

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:39 AM

2. She's kind of like a groupie

with delusions of grandeur, very dangerous!

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:42 AM

61. Nothing but a military starfucker... as is Broadwell. They're ALL idiots, and...

this whole thing is like a middle-aged 90210 episode. It's embarrassing how the media have been fawning over this whole sideshow... but what's new?

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Response to kysrsoze (Reply #61)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:45 AM

64. In this case we want them to fawn

because Republicans are being outed as the usual mix of sleazy and dishonest!

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Response to kysrsoze (Reply #61)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 03:01 AM

104. "Though she has the special license plate, it remained unclear Tuesday how she qualified for it."

No kidding. I think we can all venture a guess or two.



This is nuts. Getting nuttier and nuttier. Where did I hear the phrase "Real Housewives of CentCom"? I think this qualifies. America sure loves a reality show. They're the most surreal shows out there. Out there indeed!

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Response to calimary (Reply #104)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:07 AM

120. A guess or two

Guess number one: On her knees

Guess number two: On her back

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:39 AM

3. Wow she feels entitled...

Inviolable...really?

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Response to haikugal (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 03:33 AM

107. Most people who live in mansions do!

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #107)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:48 PM

148. Part of the group that "wants stuff"

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:41 AM

4. Get the big net for this one

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:43 AM

5. Who the hell has the power to give her titles of ambassador and consul

Complete with license plate and all....


Where exactly is Cheney's bunker?

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Response to Horse with no Name (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:54 AM

101. Someone needs to talk to the Ambassador from Lebanon. nt

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Response to MADem (Reply #101)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:09 AM

122. It's not for Lebanon

That *almost* might somehow make sense. She's "honorary consul" for South Korea.

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Response to Aerows (Reply #122)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:17 PM

144. Yeah--I found that out later! But this explains the "State Department" confusion about her at the

outset.

Lebanon does have a large number of honorary consuls, in US, Canada, and elsewhere. Given her heritage, that's the leap I made!

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:43 AM

6. I bet she's getting a ton of anonymous email now :)

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Response to aletier_v (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:47 AM

9. Sans shirt and trousers!

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:08 AM

23. Black Adder Ditty

 

Row row row your boat gently down the stream
Belts off trousers down
Isn't Life a scream

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:46 AM

7. Great stuff, but

Can you cut it back to four paragraphs so it doesn't violate DU's copyright policy?

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Response to blogslut (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:50 AM

12. Well those are mostly single sentences

the rule is paragraphs so it's not really much more, it's the way they write this stuff now

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:47 AM

8. "it remained unclear Tuesday how she qualified for it..."

 

it's called "fellatio".

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Response to BlueMan Votes (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:48 AM

10. You sir are

probably right ..

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Response to BlueMan Votes (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:50 AM

11. yeah, I also liked the comment that Patreaus' staff was "puzzled by her presence"

To quote Kyle Reese....

"WHO IS IN CHARGE HERE?"

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Response to BlueMan Votes (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:59 AM

16. The State Department referred questions to Korea? This is crazy.

Though she has the special license plate, it remained unclear Tuesday how she qualified for it.

Applicants must show proof they are members of the Honorary Consular Corps, which appears from the U.S. Department of State website to consist of representatives from foreign countries. Florida verifies that with the State Department, said Courtney Heidelberg, who is with the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles.

Florida has issued 107 such license plates.

Mark Toner, deputy spokesman with the State Department, said Kelley "does not work for State, has no affiliation with State."

His office referred all questions about Kelley to the Republic of Korea in an email received after hours
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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:17 AM

36. Yes, I though she was sort of a voluntary liason btw LEBANESE nationals and the military.

KOREA? What the....

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:19 AM

38. NOTE: We're talking about Florida here

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #38)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:25 AM

45. True, true.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:53 AM

100. This accounts for the initial confusion about a STATE DEPARTMENT connection, though. nt

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:54 AM

13. Exactly What Makes Her Inviolable?

 

1. Secure from violation or profanation: an inviolable reliquary deep beneath the altar.
2. Impregnable to assault or trespass; invincible: fortifications that made the frontier inviolable.


Being a groupie at the O Club now has that kind of power? INCONCEIVABLE!

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Response to HangOnKids (Reply #13)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:58 AM

15. I bet the loansharks don't see her as

inviolable or

Synonyms: holy, sacred, sacrosanct

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #15)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:06 AM

22. Sharks Are Born Swimming

 

They will eat her ass alive. Will Petraus and Allen be their to protect their friend" then?

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Response to HangOnKids (Reply #22)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:11 AM

26. She better make up a conspiracy and quick

to get into the witness protection program! Maybe they'd set her up in the Caymans!

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #15)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:29 AM

49. And the CIA let someone with that kind of debt

be that close to a general who has top secret clearance for that long a time.

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Response to JimDandy (Reply #49)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:33 AM

51. He must have enjoyed the desperation or be naive



A General has got to have some issues. Perhaps he dresses in a tutu in his time off. I only fear we won't get the true story!

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Response to HangOnKids (Reply #13)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:56 AM

73. But was she just a groupie? She cavorted with two Generals, appears to have

had a relatively close relationship with them. Enough that both of them intervened in her twin sister's custody case. Now it has been reported that a top Democratic Fundraiser lent her over $300,000 and that she knew Sen. John Kerry and Sen. Whitehouse who her twin sister also used in her custody case, referring to her meeting them with her young son.

So, to put it mildly, these two twin sisters appear to have had relationships with top members of both political parties.

So who are they? On the surface she is just an ordinary person, married to a doctor. Not an elected official, not part of any Government entity. Her sister was married for one year to what appears to have been a Military Contractor. They had a child and according to court records, she lost custody of her child despite recommendations from both Gen. Petraeus and Gen. Allen and references to Sen. Kerry and Sen. Whitehouse.

What 'groupie' has this kind of support from such powerful people? And what groupie has the money to become the kind of Hostess to the powerful that she appears to have had. And despite all these connections she appears to be in millions of dollars worth of debt. Yet was able to get a personal loan of hundreds of thousands of dollars from a top Democratic Fundraiser?

I don't think this was just an ordinary groupie. I have no idea who they are, but there is something really strange about all of this and it appears to be bi-partisan.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #73)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:14 AM

87. It is not really bi-partisan.

She had a relationship with one Democrat who raised money for John Kerry. All other relationships, and there appear to be thousands, were with Republicans.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #87)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:06 AM

119. So she isn't really bi-partisan - she just experimented a bit when she was younger? n/t

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Response to whopis01 (Reply #119)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:49 AM

137. Sophomore year. Everyone in her dorm was doing it.

Just to experience all the fuss over what being a Democrat was all about.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #73)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:20 AM

92. I'm with you, it is mighty strange. At first I thought maybe her sister

was a name dropper; and was dropping major names to the family court judge.

But I don't know, it all smells. Were these women collecting information (domestic or political intel)? Seeing that Petraus was the CIA Director, was he using Kelly? Was she gathering info on Allen for Petraus or for someone else? Which might explain the 20,000 emails. Are there other women, or other leaders who have been compromised?

Earlier today, I was telling this story to my adult son, and I found myself, without realizing it, saying repeatedly to him, "Remember, they're all Neo-cons. They're not the same as your run of the mill Republican." I don't even know if that statement is true, or why I kept repeating it. I believe Petraus is a Neo-con, though.

I'm babbling. Time for bed.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #73)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 03:42 AM

109. Are these women illegal

aliens who married Americans and had anchor babies?

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #73)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:56 AM

118. Oh I Get This Is No Ordinary Groupie

 

I was being facetious. These twins are much more than that, how much more is the BIG QUESTION.

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Response to HangOnKids (Reply #118)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:12 PM

150. Fascination with TWINS entice Men of Mystery....




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Response to HangOnKids (Reply #13)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:58 AM

128. May she was on the pill?

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:57 AM

14. God, it's a circus of morons.

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Response to Marr (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 08:09 AM

115. Succinct, exact, perfect

You summarized my thoughts on reading this story. Indeed, you taught them to me better than I knew them!



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Response to Marr (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:08 AM

121. I want to frame this and hang it on my wall.

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:00 AM

17. Falling Down

A summer sun that blows my mind
is falling down on all that I've ever known

Time will kiss the world goodbye
Falling down on all that I've ever known


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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:03 AM

18. Apparently she is authorized in some way to conduct business for the South Korean government

http://consularchamber.blogspot.com/2009/05/what-is-honorary-consul.html

HONORARY CONSULS

Like their counterparts the standard consuls and consuls general (often referred to as “career consuls”), the honorary consul is an official of the sending country. Unlike regular consuls however, the honorary consul is not a government employee of the sending state, and therefore does not change posts based on changes of administration in the sending country.

Honorary consuls are generally dignitaries or persons of position in business and society in the receiving state, while having some connection to the sending state. Honorary consuls are not necessarily citizens of the sending states; rather, they are recognized by the sending states as persons of influence, capable of furthering the objectives of the sending state in the receiving state.

Honorary consuls may represent large and densely populated counties, or, as is often the case, small countries in the developing world which seek to promote business diplomacy. As big business often seeks to establish itself in the developing world, honorary consuls are often chosen for their acumen in such environs.

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Interesting. I had no idea such diplomatic positions exist but apparently they are not uncommon and most countries hire citizens in other countries to be such folks.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:06 AM

21. "business"

now what might that be ... there are two equally compromising angles: military business and um social coordinator work

I hope Paula's dad is right and there's a big story underneath. We need to tie up the loose ends and move on to the next Republican meltdown

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:11 AM

27. Given that she was born in Lebanon

it would make more sense if she had a diplomatic position granted by, ya know, Lebanon.

However, in this drama I realize that is way to rational.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:34 AM

53. If she's authorized to conduct business for S. Korea, what was a U.S General doing sending her tons

of e-mails? I don't care if they were discussing baseball, it doesn't seem right for a top general to deal with someone engaged in conducting business on behalf of a foreign state without the authorization of the state department.

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Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #53)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:41 AM

59. It wouldnt make a difference either way. She is still a US citizen.

Lets say I knew a lot about port business here in NYC and the new pacific island nation called "Republic of NewBeach" couldnt afford to have a person sent here full time. They could name me an honorary consul and I could work to set up business contacts on their behalf, even though I am not a citizen of NewBeach and dont have any other ties to them.

I would still be a US citizen and there is no reason to think I would pass any kind of security information to the Republic of NewBeach.

I'm just learning about this in real time, but have now done a bit of research and think I have a pretty good handle on it.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #59)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:15 AM

88. Maybe it's a way of getting around the Agent of a Foreign

Country idea that is kind of serious and meant for those pushing political interests

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:04 AM

19. Ooops, someone took her ID card away. LOL. Guess they finally

starting wondering why this woman was allowed to be on a military base, "planning parties".

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #19)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:34 AM

54. Why did it take so long for them to do so? The investigation has been going on since MAY!

"She did have base access but does not currently because of her involvement in an ongoing investigation," a military official told the Tribune.

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Response to JimDandy (Reply #54)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:37 AM

55. Current MacDill commander must not be under her special magic spell.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #55)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:10 AM

84. Aaah, a change in base commanders btw now and then.

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:05 AM

20. This is almost incestuous.

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Response to Blue_In_AK (Reply #20)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:08 AM

24. Yes. It is creepy.

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:10 AM

25. Wait a damn minute.




That is not a diplomatic plate, unless Florida is a nation state.

No, I am serious as a heart attack. Diplomatic plates are issued by State and are property of the FEDERAL government.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #25)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:12 AM

28. Is this a fake plate?

That could land her in trouble, probably used with unsuspecting cops to avoid speeding and parking tickets!

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #28)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:13 AM

30. No

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #28)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:15 AM

31. Here

http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ficheiro:US_Diplomatic_Plate.jpg

And cops should know what a diplomatic plate looks like.

I had a momemt of wtf since I see them often at the Federal Building downtown.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #31)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:17 AM

35. But factor in the eyelash batting and name dropping

and they might overlook the fake-o plate! Something tells me she's had experience along those lines.

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #35)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:19 AM

39. That is another story

But if I am at a scene and somebody pulls that shit...my camera goes on burst.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #25)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:13 AM

29. Read the article.

Then you will have even more questions.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #29)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:15 AM

32. Exactly, I can buy that she has some connection

consular something, but the plates are meaningless apparently if not issued by the state, or .. something.

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #32)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:17 AM

33. haha. It's a "personalized plate"

"Secretary of State"

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Response to aletier_v (Reply #33)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 03:55 AM

110. WELL

Now who in their right mind (I know this is obviously not the case here) would have the vanity plate say "honorary" on it?

I think she's just bling-crazy and tries to use it to try and look hot. Aside from the fact that the other photos in the media show her in pret-ty short skirts for a gal in her 30's. Just sayin'...

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #29)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:17 AM

34. I read it

The plate is not a diplomatic plate.

And her position, that alone should have prevented any access to any us base, or limited it with military police. NoFor used to mean something.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #34)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:22 AM

42. One more time - Broadwell's lost driver's license means something. :)

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Response to aletier_v (Reply #42)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:24 AM

44. Yup

At this point a runner going out for a run losing their dl a a well known running path is no coincidence. I know.

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Response to aletier_v (Reply #42)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:25 AM

46. I have to admit this one really bugs me

Seems like it was jettisoned by someone but meant to be found.

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Response to aletier_v (Reply #42)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:26 AM

47. Rock Creek Park is where Chandra Levy's body was found.

Has anyone seen Paula since Sunday?

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Response to aletier_v (Reply #42)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:48 AM

68. Has Broadwell had anyrhing to say about her DL

being found in the park?

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Response to aletier_v (Reply #42)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 08:01 AM

113. convenient way to

place her whereabouts in DC. ?

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #25)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:19 AM

37. "That is not a diplomatic plate, unless Florida is a nation state"

are you trying to tie this scandal back to the secession threads?

bravo!

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Response to aletier_v (Reply #37)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:22 AM

40. They did while we were at the movies

Apparently a James Bond flick connects me to a parallel universe.



It almost feels that way.

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Response to aletier_v (Reply #37)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:22 AM

41. Jill Kelley is Secretary of

State in the newly seceded state of Floriduh

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Response to aletier_v (Reply #37)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:24 AM

43. I am going to call tomorrow and see if my state issues that type of tag.

If they do then I will call a friend in Estonia who works for the government and see if I can get a letter and get one of those. Unfortunately I don't have a Mercedes to put it on.

This tag thing is the craziest bit yet.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #43)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:26 AM

48. I want one too

any country will do.

We can all take lessons from Jill

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #43)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:51 AM

70. Heartily agreed. nt

PB

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #25)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:47 AM

66. according to the article, Florida does issue those

plates on behalf of State, once the qualification has been verified. But, the article also quotes someone stating adamently, that Kelley has no affiliation with, and does not work for State.

Unless I read that wrong, but that's what I got out if it.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #25)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:07 AM

82. It appears to be legit, according to this:

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Response to bayareamike (Reply #82)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:49 AM

125. I will be damned

Florida has taken over a function of the Federal Government.

So how limited is the actual immunity? That cannot be a rolling embassy.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #125)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:18 PM

145. CA does it as well

 

Probably a few others

scroll down

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/plates/specialplates.htm

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:30 AM

50. I heard....

I heard she's a member of the Royal Family of the Conch Republic.

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #50)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:34 AM

52. Key West royalty huh?

She seems a bit too elite for that but in the end she'll be wasting away in Margaritaville

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:37 AM

56. As I posted earlier, apparently this is legit

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consul_(representative)#Honorary_consul

Any country can appoint any citizen of any other country to be an honorary consul and they essentially have some diplomatic rights, privileges, etc.

Of course, there is usually a good reason a particular person is selected. They may have good business contacts in an area, etc.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #56)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:40 AM

57. I wonder how many states issue that sort of tag.

I have never seen one in NC.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #57)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:45 AM

63. I'm guessing all states would/can issue consular tags. Diplomatic tags I think are a different story

I think the federal govt has to issue diplomatic tags.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #56)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:42 AM

60. In some related article it indicated that the Generals helped her get this post

So the poor clueless Koreans don't have any idea who they're dealing with -- and she may have thought it was a good thing but it's probably more social coordination and not much pay-off (they're cheap?).

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #60)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:48 AM

67. Better than cheap, they're often free. It all depends on the arrangement.

I'm fascinated by this now. I'm only sad I wouldnt be useful as one to any country because I live in NYC and most countries have a consulate here staffed by permanent folks. Honorary Consuls are generally named who live in cities and regions where those countries have no consular representation.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #67)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:53 AM

72. I am finding this interesting also.

I really don't think most states issue those tags btw. Something to keep in mind, her sister Natalie dated Charlie Crist so maybe he helped arrange the S. Korean relationship and tag.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #72)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:59 AM

76. Think of it this way, a country can open up a consulate in virtually any town or city

it has to be approved by the host country, but these requests are almost always approved. England could open a consulate in Atlanta (assuming they dont already have one there) or Raleigh, or Provo, or Las Vegas. Those states would have to have tags for the consular staff. Its possible that to this point there are no consulates and no honorary consuls in states like Wyoming and because of that Wyoming may not have tags created for this, but it would seem each state would accomodate this when it occurs.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #76)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:06 AM

80. I currently live in NC.

I have lived in the Midwest, the Southwest, the West, and the Pacific NW - car cultures all. I have never seen a state issued tag of that type.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #86)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:21 AM

93. Thanks - I see most states are pretty subtle.

Florida has the best, they look important. But then that state is bat crap crazy.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #56)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:04 AM

79. "there is usually a good reason a particular person is selected."

Banging half the top commanders at CENTCOM might qualify....

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Response to davepc (Reply #79)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:01 AM

129. Or procuring Koreans for said same

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Response to davepc (Reply #79)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:11 AM

132. Apparently bangin' them Gangnam-style.

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Response to JBoy (Reply #132)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:11 PM

143. the "sesy lady" line was written for Jill I hear!

part of the Korean conspiracy scandal just beginning to break

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #56)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:16 AM

90. Plenty of "good reasons" to select Jill!

I'm sure the Koreans saw a thing or two about her

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:40 AM

58. So ludicrous - must K & R for all the rest.

They need their minds blown too.

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Response to JimDandy (Reply #58)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:44 AM

62. I'm addicted to this story

because I sense a boiling cauldron of Republican evil at the center of it all. We can only hope. It would be a nice extra gift to Obama and clear out some of the cobwebs.

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:46 AM

65. Does this mean she has Diplomatic Quimmunity?



PB

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:51 AM

69. FYI all, this request by her for police protection seems to be an abuse of her position. An honorary

consul CAN request this kind of assistance and also is entitled to limited forms of diplomatic immunity ONLY IF AND WHEN THEY ARE CONDUCTING CONSULAR BUSINESS ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTRY FOR WHOM THEY ARE WORKING.

An honorary consul cannot sic the police on people for the heck of it, as this person seems to have done.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #69)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:53 AM

71. I hope the Koreans send over a motorcade and demand

that she be treated in accordance with Korean law!

Throw in a few ninjas for effect.

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #71)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:58 AM

74. And you know they never said

if it was North Korea or South Korea.

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Response to JimDandy (Reply #74)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:06 AM

81. Of course! This is not your garden variety conspiracy, not at all!

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Response to JimDandy (Reply #74)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:10 AM

85. Hope they get the national anthem right when she enters the room.

I recall a little problem at the Olympics. Apparently it is easy to get confused.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #85)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:16 AM

89. He he he. We're getting pretty punchy.

Must go to bed, but carry on.

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #71)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 03:37 AM

108. ROTFLMAO (altho I think ninjas are Japanese, technically

 

speaking

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #69)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:21 AM

94. She did it before

She also asked the topless FBI guy to protect her in a cat fight. LOL

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #69)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 03:42 PM

154. No harm in asking

however I'm sure when Tampa Police dept showed up they laughed their asses off. They probably just asked the press to stay on a sidewalk or something. I'm sure no one was arrested.

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:59 AM

75. For what it's worth here is a story of another random honorary consul in FL

Some guy became an honorary consul for Austria just by applying and they "took him up on the offer":

http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/national/BO42595/

Seems like this might just be a kooky thing going on in Florida? Of all places, this would be going on in Florida

Bizarre, bizarre, bizarre.

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Response to bayareamike (Reply #75)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:03 AM

77. I AM TOTALLY ALL OVER THAT SHIT NOW- I want to collect those titles like Pokemon.

But fuck that shit with France or some country that's going to check with my parole officer.

Namibia. Namibia's not going to check up on me. They would totally make me an Honorary Council. I just fucking got a haircut, too.

PB

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Response to Poll_Blind (Reply #77)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:22 AM

96. Oh, geez laughed so much I had to run for bathroom.

Stop, Stop.

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Response to JimDandy (Reply #96)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:54 AM

102. I just talked to a dude in Windhoek who said if I send him $300 it's a done deal!

I already put in a suggestion for more fitting accommodations.

PB

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Response to Poll_Blind (Reply #102)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:24 AM

134. Nigeria....That's the ticket!!!!

Betcha you can get one from there, for only a small fee.

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:03 AM

78. I'm honorary Queen of England

How send over my crown.

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:09 AM

83. The abuse of power. nt

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:20 AM

91. "Honorary" means just that. Fake.

Defined as; held or given only as an honour, without the normal "privileges" or "duties". Emphasis on without the normal "privileges".

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Response to Lint Head (Reply #91)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:23 AM

97. You'd think that- but actually it's a "Real Deal". See here:

HERE

PB

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Response to Lint Head (Reply #91)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:24 AM

98. Thats not correct in this case. An honorary consul can perform various official consular functions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consul_(representative)#Honorary_consul

Some consuls are not career officials of the represented state at all; some are locally-engaged staff with the nationality of the sending country,and in smaller cities, or in cities that are very distant from full-time diplomatic missions, a foreign government which feels that some form of representation is nevertheless desirable may appoint a person who has not hitherto been part of their diplomatic service to fulfill this role. Such a consul may well combine the job with his or her own (often commercial) private activities, and in some instances may not even be a citizen of the sending country. Such consular appointments are usually given the title of honorary consul. Graham Greene used this position as the title of his 1973 novel The Honorary Consul.

Notwithstanding their other roles, Honorary Consular Officers (in the widest use of the term) also have responsibility for the welfare of citizens of the appointing country within their bailiwick. Thus, particularly within a port town, an Honorary Consul may be called out (at any time, day or night) to attend to the well-being of a citizen of the appointing country who has been arrested. Their role in this situation is to ensure that the arrested persons are treated in a like manner as would be the citizen of the country in which this person was arrested, and understand their rights & obligations.

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:22 AM

95. What a DimWinger!

Honorary Consuls are not entitled to "Diplomatic Protection" even in the foreign country where they are working because they do not have accreditation. Sure, the country for which they are working could raise hell with a host country that harassed them but they would not provide protection. No Consul, accredited or not, has any right to diplomatic protection in the country for which they are acting.

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:50 AM

99. There are quite a few of these Lebanese "honorary consuls" around the world.

They are usually wealthy people who are well connected. Really--do the google, you will be surprised.

I don't know if the "honorary" title entitles them to diplomatic immunity or protection, though, any more than being an honorary fireman entitles someone to a fireman's outfit, a paycheck and a pension...!

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Response to MADem (Reply #99)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:56 AM

103. Twice as many Israeli "honorary consuls"! What does it mean?



PB

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Response to Poll_Blind (Reply #103)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:46 PM

147. It's a bifurcated effort, I think.

It extends the reach of the embassy for very little outlay, and it provides customer service to citizens of these foreign nations.

And, who knows, there may be a Pollard or two in those ranks as well...but if there are, they're hiding in very plain sight.

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Response to MADem (Reply #147)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:04 PM

149. Or maybe it's not about "Lebanese" or "Israeli" at all, just individuals. nt

PB

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Response to Poll_Blind (Reply #149)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:33 PM

152. I meant "bifurcated" from the perspective of the issuing nation--in this case, the South Koreans. n

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 03:17 AM

105. ''I have inviolability.''

- This is Florida, right? StandYourGroundsville? I suppose those reporters are lucky she didn't come out shooting.....


K&R

''Jus, run em over. That's
what I always do......''

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 03:26 AM

106. Give us a break, Jill.

But, if this is indeed true, here is some information about "honorary consuls."

http://consularchamber.blogspot.ch/2009/05/what-is-honorary-consul.html

Here is more information about this, and specifically about Kelley:

...
The position of honorary consul is symbolic and has no official responsibilities, the official said.

"She does not work as a real consul. They play a role to improve the relationship between the ROK and the U.S.," the official said. "Jill Kelley helped to get support for and she arranged meetings between the ROK Ambassador to Washington and local businessmen when the ROK Ambassador visited the Tampa area."

There's no implication that the South Korean government has anything to do with the growing scandal that involves Kelly, Allen, Petraeus, and Paula Broadwell, Petraeus's biographer and alleged mistress. But her work on behalf of the South Koreans may explain some of the 20,000 to 30,000 pages of e-mails between her and Allen that the Defense Department's Inspector General's office is investigating now.
...
In fact, "honorary" diplomats have no specific privileges or protections under the 1961 Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations and therefore her property is not actually ''inviolable" as a matter of international law.


http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/11/13/jill_kelley_is_an_honorary_consul_of_south_korea

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Response to BlueMTexpat (Reply #106)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:12 AM

112. Awww

the poor thing, to be exposed this way in public! She's not entitled after all... how sad.

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 03:57 AM

111. Gee, an airhead socialite who can afford a 100K Mercedes but can't figure out how to use Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consular_immunity

No diplomatic immunity, no inviolability of residence or office, no get-out-of-jail-free card when reporters come a-knocking.

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Response to Azathoth (Reply #111)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:29 AM

123. Well, the immunities they have only come into play when they are performing consular duties.

A consul rushing to the police station to meet with a person who has been arrested as part of their consular duties cannot be cited for speeding or reckless driving and their car should not be towed for doubleparking.

It definitely does NOT include sic'ing the police on reporters camped out on her lawn.

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 08:04 AM

114. kick!

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:13 AM

116. She sounds like an epic narcissist.

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:18 AM

117. kardashians with generals

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:49 AM

124. Check this from 2007: "Florida man with no Austrian ties becomes country’s honorary consul"

http://arbroath.blogspot.com/2007/02/florida-man-with-no-austrian-ties.html



Toby Unwin was an unlikely choice as Austria’s newest honorary consul. He has never been to Austria, has no Austrian heritage, and doesn’t speak German, the country’s official language. But he is a successful businessman with a clean background, and he did ask nicely. The 33-year-old, originally from England, once read that people could become amateur diplomats by writing foreign officials and inquiring. After he made several attempts, Austria took him up on his offer.


The job doesn’t pay, but Unwin does get the authority to issue emergency visas, the title of honorary consul, Republic of Austria, and a license plate that can get him out of tickets. To start the office in late October, Unwin received a map of Austria, stamps for official documents, a CD and sheet music of the national and European anthems, and three flags. He has been studying German and plans to visit Austria this summer.

Unwin has already helped one Austrian arrested for allegedly keeping a rental car too long.

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Response to Chiyo-chichi (Reply #124)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:09 AM

130. This is great.

I can not stop laughing about this whole mess.

I have learned a lot in the past few hours.

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Response to Chiyo-chichi (Reply #124)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:35 AM

135. If the tea-baggers EVER had a case for "gov't. is too big", this MIGHT be

considered somewhat acceptable evidence!

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:51 AM

126. You could not make this stuff up

then again this is in FL

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:55 AM

127. I got an e-mail once from Nigeria saying I had been made a diplomat for that country.

Just had to send $1,000.00 to speed up the processing of paperwork and I would soon get my diplomatic license plates and I.D. in the mail.

J/K!

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #127)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:20 AM

133. go for it, then you'll have

inviolability!

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:09 AM

131. Whack. Job. And wowser is she ignorant too boot. nt

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:37 AM

136. This story gets more bizarre by the day

If she wasn't married I would have been wondering if she wasn't a high paid escort or something, its all just so weird. I am at a loss as to how a doctor's wife, without a job gets access to so many people in such powerful positions.

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Response to Marrah_G (Reply #136)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:25 PM

138. I still think they are republican hookers

 

doing spying on the side.

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Response to Marrah_G (Reply #136)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:25 PM

151. If the truth ever comes out, it'll read like some schlocky supermarket paperback political thriller

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:57 PM

139. "Though she has the special license plate, it remained unclear Tuesday how she qualified for it."

It remains unclear how she, her sister, and Broadwell qualified for a LOT of things.


rocktivity

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:58 PM

140. the rest of her plate says: 'I joking'.

 

ha

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:00 PM

141. All Republican women are crazy...every freaking one of them...nt

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:03 PM

142. I smell a lot of people headed for the Big House

if they don't head for distant hills first.

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:21 PM

146. I can only imagine what she was like at the DMV trying to assert her need for special plates.

Throws a whole new light on the type of person that would call the FBI over e-mails she didn't like, and calling 9-1-1 over her attempt to hide behind falsely presumed diplomatic immunity.

Entitled much?

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:52 PM

153. Not uncommon, a friend and I did that in Italy.

I was in Genoa several years ago, US Counsel came to meet us. She said for us not to hesitate to call if there was anything she could do for us, so I asked her for a diplomatic tag (since parking was a nightmare, and we didn't want to get towed) and a "get out of jail free card". She laughed, I told her we knew the Ambassador, and she was like "yea, sure you do". So she went back to her office, called the Ambassador, he confirmed he knew us, and she came back to us with some kind of Special Counsel certificates ( which meant if we were arrested by police they had to take us to consulate instead of jail), and a tag to hang from mirror so we wouldn't get ticketed or towed.

The tag was a big help. The "get out of jail free card" of course we didn't need, but it was great fun showing it off to friends.

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Response to flamingdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:56 PM

155. Kick again for a fun, must read thread!

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Response to JimDandy (Reply #155)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:20 PM

156. We had our fun but now it looks like things will be

swept under the carpet, noooo! What about the North Korean connection, we'll have to contact the FBI, this is too important to national security, uh I think.

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