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Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:11 PM

There Is A Brutal Civil War In The GOP, And It Looks Like Karl Rove Will Be The First Casualty

Grassroots Republican operatives and Movement conservatives are quickly turning against the GOP Establishment in the wake of the party's expensive defeat this election cycle.

Republicans we spoke to this week voiced a near-universal disgust with the national Republican Party leaders and Washington political class, who are seen as having put their personal financial interest above winning the election.

As this internecine struggle gathers steam, the first target appears to be Karl Rove, the former Bush campaign mastermind who has dictated much of the GOP's strategy over the past decade.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/karl-rove-gop-money-civil-war-republicans-2012-11

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Reply There Is A Brutal Civil War In The GOP, And It Looks Like Karl Rove Will Be The First Casualty (Original post)
FarCenter Nov 2012 OP
morningfog Nov 2012 #1
Plucketeer Nov 2012 #38
geckosfeet Nov 2012 #52
cali Nov 2012 #2
IL Lib Nov 2012 #21
LuvLoogie Nov 2012 #43
SalviaBlue Nov 2012 #68
ailsagirl Nov 2012 #3
niyad Nov 2012 #4
aletier_v Nov 2012 #5
Frustratedlady Nov 2012 #26
irisblue Nov 2012 #48
kestrel91316 Nov 2012 #57
uponit7771 Nov 2012 #49
CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2012 #6
Cirque du So-What Nov 2012 #7
BeyondGeography Nov 2012 #8
reACTIONary Nov 2012 #45
klook Nov 2012 #50
mick063 Nov 2012 #66
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HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #9
Live and Learn Nov 2012 #10
madinmaryland Nov 2012 #11
malaise Nov 2012 #23
CrazyOrangeCat Nov 2012 #37
BadGimp Nov 2012 #12
get the red out Nov 2012 #13
LukeFL Nov 2012 #30
Azathoth Nov 2012 #14
ThoughtCriminal Nov 2012 #15
Live and Learn Nov 2012 #18
hibbing Nov 2012 #47
n2doc Nov 2012 #58
Voice for Peace Nov 2012 #67
BainsBane Nov 2012 #77
99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #16
struggle4progress Nov 2012 #17
GliderGuider Nov 2012 #19
JHB Nov 2012 #31
CTyankee Nov 2012 #20
JaneyVee Nov 2012 #22
BainsBane Nov 2012 #78
summerschild Nov 2012 #24
Frustratedlady Nov 2012 #32
summerschild Nov 2012 #42
AlinPA Nov 2012 #25
sadbear Nov 2012 #27
BouzoukiKing Nov 2012 #39
Richard D Nov 2012 #28
JHB Nov 2012 #29
Mr.Bill Nov 2012 #33
Tutonic Nov 2012 #34
TomClash Nov 2012 #35
Neon2012 Nov 2012 #36
Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #40
Cha Nov 2012 #41
kenny blankenship Nov 2012 #44
AlbertCat Nov 2012 #46
adieu Nov 2012 #51
AlGoreRhythms Nov 2012 #53
Warpy Nov 2012 #54
Myrina Nov 2012 #55
tpsbmam Nov 2012 #56
heaven05 Nov 2012 #59
Ikonoklast Nov 2012 #60
ffr Nov 2012 #61
donco Nov 2012 #62
Odin2005 Nov 2012 #63
Voice for Peace Nov 2012 #64
ReRe Nov 2012 #65
blue sky at night Nov 2012 #69
defacto7 Nov 2012 #70
Yavin4 Nov 2012 #71
Aristus Nov 2012 #72
Love Bug Nov 2012 #73
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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:15 PM

1. I wish them continued disarray and finger pointing hate.

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Response to morningfog (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:29 PM

38. And may it all end with nothing more

than a smoldering, stinking pile of lifeless ashes. One where not so much as one glimmering cinder threatens to foster a flame. Let the baggers sift thru those ashes and wonder how their faith and hate has failed them. They'll have the party of hope and help to blame for their misery.

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Response to morningfog (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:05 PM

52. ^^ This ^^

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:17 PM

2. Joy! Revelry!

Seeing Rove kicked around is almost orgasmic.

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Response to cali (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:57 PM

21. LMAO n/t

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Response to cali (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:41 PM

43. Rove and orgasmic in the same sentence? Seriously?

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Response to cali (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:57 PM

68. I know!! It's delicious.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:20 PM

3. We knew it had to go down in flames...

but, frankly, I'm surprised it took this long.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:20 PM

4. awww, me widdle heart just bweeeeeds for them.

may they receive everything they deserve.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:24 PM

5. Ah, this explains why the GOP primary was so incredible flaky yet predictable.

"Karl Rove was out raising money to keep Santorum alive until they could kill Newt — Santorum basically ran for Governor of Iowa in 2011, visiting all 99 counties; Santorum, out of Iowa, had no organization, no money and no chance in 2012 to be the Republican nominee; he was only a stalking horse for Mitt Romney — Rove kept Santorum alive until he could kill Rick Perry first, and then Newt Gingrich"


One by one,
Rove popped them like targets,
and knocked them down.

Hard to believe he could have been this insightful and calculating,
but if true, he has no friends left in GOP.

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Response to aletier_v (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:06 PM

26. I'm surprised one of them didn't take Rove behind the shed...

He'd wilt, as he's a bully until pushed in a corner. Remember how he lost all that weight when he didn't know what Fitz was going to do about Plame?

He's a dirty manipulator and someone's going to do him in if he doesn't retire and stay out of politics.

I adore this in-fighting. However, I ate all the popcorn during the election and can't !

I can just see Obama and Axelrod ROTFLTBO.

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Response to Frustratedlady (Reply #26)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:56 PM

48. watching them slap each other around

is worth making another batch....

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Response to irisblue (Reply #48)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:15 PM

57. Hey, it's worth making a special trip to the store JUST for more popcorn.

And beer.

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Response to aletier_v (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:01 PM

49. +1!

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:26 PM

6. And it couldn't happen to a more deserving person!

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:27 PM

7. Turd Rove is certainly well past due for receiving his comeuppance

although I'd rather see it come from the judicial system than the comparatively mild rebuke at the hand of the flacks in his party.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:28 PM

8. The best thing about that article is they're pissed at Rove

for things he actually got right, like wanting to dump Akin and preferring Romney over the rest of the primary clown car members.

This is classic movement/machine tension. The conservative movement wants to reassert itself now. Problem is, the machine has it right about their policies being unsellable.

It's a lovely mess.

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:44 PM

45. +1 (NT)

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:02 PM

50. Exactly - the "legitimate rape" theorists,

Jesus-on-a-dinosaur fundamentalists, and birthers won't settle for sanity.

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:42 PM

66. Rove is the only guy

 

they have that knows how to "sell" bad candidates. Hell, he was able to sell W.

Now they propose using a rookie to sell their crap ideas?

They kick out Rove and they are finished. Toast.

As if they weren't already.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:29 PM

9. .

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:30 PM

10. If they divest themselves of those out to enhance their own personal fortunes

they will be left with only the religious kooks, the mentally unstable and the ignorant. What a party!

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:33 PM

11. He belongs in jail. RIGHT FUCKING NOW!

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Response to madinmaryland (Reply #11)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:01 PM

23. True but do you mind watching his own

devour him - I'm freaking lovin' it.

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Response to malaise (Reply #23)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:23 PM

37. Yeah, this is gonna be fun.

He weasled out of the Plame thing . . .

But his own incompetence and complacency has finally done him in.



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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:35 PM

12. Kay Karl

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:36 PM

13. May this war rage on!!!

They still won't recognize their real problem, that they are old, white, patriarchal, and EXTREMIST. They demand that this country be run according to their religious views, and that nobody pays taxes; that's their "grassroots", the Christian Taliban and the guys that think Somalia has good government.

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Response to get the red out (Reply #13)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:10 PM

30. So true

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:37 PM

14. Couldn't happen to a nicer scumbag n/t

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:38 PM

15. Rove is not their biggest problem

Stupid ideas from corrupt, horrible people. That's something that they cannot fix anymore - there's nothing else left.

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Response to ThoughtCriminal (Reply #15)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:50 PM

18. +1 The rest of the crooked, racist, sexist, homophobic, religiously intolerant

members of the party are just as bad.

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Response to Live and Learn (Reply #18)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:49 PM

47. Image v policies

Hey,
I agree totally. Have watched a lot of the political class on the teevee proclaiming it is the image. So they will promote their few token minorities and not analyze that it is their policies not the image that need to change. The blatant racism really does frighten me.

Peace

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Response to ThoughtCriminal (Reply #15)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:15 PM

58. Their biggest problem is that idiots like Rush, Beck and Palin control their party now

These people have absolutely no idea on how to win elections, just to get people riled up/scared/horny. Can't run a party with them leading the way.

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Response to n2doc (Reply #58)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:46 PM

67. Isn't there an uninhabited island somewhere so they could all live together government-free

???

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Response to ThoughtCriminal (Reply #15)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:44 AM

77. Yeah, but Rove took the billionaires' money

Which means he's headed to the wood chipper.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:38 PM

16. Couldn't be happening to a more deserving crowd

Who knows? Maybe we'll even get a more reasonable and moderate GOP out
of this election. But they have "outed" themselves so thoroughly, to be such
scumbags to the core, that it may take them a decade to pull that off.

It's difficult to imagine what the fuck they are going to do with this Teabagger
millstone around their collective neck, as there's probably no way on God's
green earth that they will ever be dissuaded from their loony anti-science worldview.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:49 PM

17. It's just family night with the yahoos: dad gets fired from his job, so junior kicks uncle

in the nuts, mom takes out a contract on sis, auntie punches dad in the schnozz, &c&c

they'll all be back to playing nicey-poo and kissy-face with each another when the 2014 primaries end

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:50 PM

19. They finally ratfucked themselves into a corner with no exit.

We've been waiting a long time for this moment...

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Response to GliderGuider (Reply #19)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:12 PM

31. That's the thing about ratfucking...

Eventually, it becomes just another tool to use against rivals on your own side. And that always ends in a clusterfuck.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:52 PM

20. Ah, yes, heads posted on spikes outside the city walls! Perfect!

And there is tiny Karl's.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:59 PM

22. I will supply them with the horses & bayonets.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #22)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:47 AM

78. :)

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:02 PM

24. Off-topic, but isn't that Petreaus on the right-hand foreground photo in the OP?

I was reminded the General had been suggested as running mate to Romney. No date or link on this picture.

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Response to summerschild (Reply #24)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:13 PM

32. I saw that and was sure it was Petreaus, as well.

Glad I'm not the only one. He's been on my mind a lot of late.

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Response to Frustratedlady (Reply #32)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:35 PM

42. His resignation is bizzarre enough to be part of a Rovian plot to sink Obama.

They hoped Benghazi was.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:05 PM

25. "Grassroots Republican operatives and Movement conservatives" are the teabaggers, Christian

religious leader and conservative media who are also the leaders of the GOP. So it doesn't make sense.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:06 PM

27. I'm gonna miss Ham Rove.

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Response to sadbear (Reply #27)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:34 PM

39. No reason to.

He'll be coming soon to a store near you...

Sliced.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:08 PM

28. This makes me sad . . .

. . . they shouldn't be infighting like that.
I truly hope they can get it together soon.
Soon in geologic time.
At least 20-50 years.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:09 PM

29. Some say "KR" is a secret Kenyan Muslim Socialist...

Just reporting. You decide!

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:13 PM

33. When you see the flat-earth knuckledraggers

that replace him, you're gonna miss Karl.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:15 PM

34. Set up a circular firing squad.

Equally to blame.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:18 PM

35. Let's hope it's the Hundred Years War eom

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:22 PM

36. Fuck.

 

This is hilarious.

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Response to Neon2012 (Reply #36)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:34 PM

40. Welcome aboard.

It is fun to watch a political party that has based itself on attacking its political opposition now using that talent on itself.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:41 PM

44. No tears here. I'm sure he'll manage to land on his flab.

Just like he always does.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:49 PM

46. having put their personal financial interest above winning the election.

Uh oh! They are 100% correct in that! It scares me when they see the truth....


But what the hell am I frightened about. They'll do the exact WRONG thing about it. They just don't live in the real world.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:04 PM

51. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy

Actually, given his complete ineptness in helping candidates succeed, I would love to see Rove continue in his blind, messianic quest to get another Bush clone elected.

The American electorate have learned from the Bush II fiasco. We're no longer satisfied with a wry smile and a chummy personality. The candidate has to have some skills. Meritocracy and technocracy beats out charismocracy.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:06 PM

53. I'm going to sit back with a beer

and watch the republican party implode.

It's a great time in America.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:09 PM

54. yeah, I think Fat Karl has had it.

He blew too much smoke up too many rich and powerful asses. It's one thing to lie to the people, quite another to lie to the owners and bosses. In fact, since I haven't seen him over the last 24 hours, I suspect he might already be part of an overpass support somewhere.

Most of the other liars and smoke blowers will just point to him as the source, hoping they'll get off the hook. It's not likely to work for most of them.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:10 PM

55. Please tell me why anyone even remotely associated with the GOP would be surprised ...

... that anyone else in the party would "put their own personal financial interest above winning the election".

ADVANCING THEIR OWN PERSONAL FINANCIAL INTEREST is primarily all the GOP is about, down to the very last one of them.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:11 PM

56. What I love is it's coming from the teabagger base who blame Rove for losing the base

or the "establishment" GOP for losing the base and, thus, the election. At least in this article, it's the fundies/social conservatives that are having snit fits. Cited is the example of the Republican establishment's "tar and feathering" of Akin after his idiotic comments. I guess the GOP was supposed to give full-throated support to Akin after that and that would have made it hunky-dorry and Akin would have won. Yeah, right.

They just don't bloody well get it and as long as they insist the GOP go further right where the fundies and baggers want it, there will be civil war if the establishment GOP finally gets a clue about American voters and their rejection of this current sicko, obstructionist, socially completely out of touch with the majority of Americans GOP. They don't get that continuing to push the Akins & Mourdocks & Bachmanns will lose them election after election and they're pushing the GOP to up their game to go further in their direction.

I love it!






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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:15 PM

59. yep

I hope they drum him out to the streets never to darken our doorways ever again. Won't happen but I'm entitled to my fantasies.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:20 PM

60. Seems that Rove forgot one really important fact: Every election is different.

He ran this campaign as if that drunkass W was the candidate, and he could bullshit the electorate into thinking that Romney was just another guy they'd like to have a beer with.

W was and is a mean-spiritied vindictive little shit, and Romney was a candidate with so many major flaws he seemed to be a collection of mistakes all flying in the same direction more than a single person.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:32 PM

61. Karl's too liberal for the new Teaparty GOP.

Makes complete sense for a party that's eating itself like a cancer.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:33 PM

62. its good to see a

turd blossom in full bloom.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:37 PM

63. Turd Blossom is not the genius he thinks he is.

His shock live on Faux that Obama won proves that.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:39 PM

64. gosh

Attacks on the GOP Establishment and Washington political class have not been limited to Rove. In a post leading the conservative site RedState this weekend, the Romney campaign is accused of being a "con job," in which consultants spun "false data as truth in order to paint a rosy picture of a successful campaign as a form of job security."

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:40 PM

65. All I want to see is....

... Rove being FROG-MARCHED to jail.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:09 PM

69. I always wished turd blossom would just go away....

during the bu$h crime family era but you know it was almost worth it to endure the shithead for four more years just to see him turning like a pig on a spit like he his now. See Ya kkkarl! you know you are washed up when you can't even be on faux news anymore.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:25 PM

70. Another desolved into the ethers

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:28 PM

71. I Don't Think That Ken Burns Will Make A Documentary About This Civil War. n/t

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:31 PM

72. See GOP-ers?

There's a difference between being an evil genius, and just being evil. That's Rove for you...

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:55 PM

73. I thought "personal financial interest" was the reason

anyone became a republican in the first place! They were just exercising their core values of selfishness and greed.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:00 PM

74. Schadenfreude

Thanks Senator Franken!

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:52 AM

75. Gee...ya think?

"Republicans we spoke to this week voiced a near-universal disgust with the national Republican Party leaders and Washington political class, who are seen as having put their personal financial interest above winning the election."

What they may not realize is that party leader's and political classes' personal finances are directly tied to how favorable rethug policies will be to the 1%. That's where their true bankroll comes from.

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Response to tex-wyo-dem (Reply #75)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:30 AM

76. To survive in the GOP, you need to make one of three factions happy.

 




Rove pissed them all off.
He pissed off the Teabillies because he shot Newt down.
He pissed off the Evangelicals because he shot Santorum down.
He pissed off the 1% because he shot a few hundred million down.

I don't know how Rove survives this except for the fact that he sells snake oil and the GOP is addicted to it.

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Response to mick063 (Reply #76)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 03:52 AM

79. Good points

Universally despised: Rove's true talent.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:26 AM

80. Remember all thos Fitzmas carols on DU2?

Just remembered this one--better late than never.

Rove’s Nuts Roasting on an Open Fire

Rove’s nuts roasting on an open fire
John Law snapping at his toes
Federal indictments being read by the hour,
And perps dressed up in prison clothes.

Everybody knows those turkeys in a prison cell
Would help to make the season bright
Fiendish plots had their eyes all aglow
But they'll find it hard to sleep tonight.

They know Fitzgerald's on his way
With big indictments in his attaché
And every one of us will crack a smile
To see Dick Cheney put away for awhile.

And so I’m offering these simple words
To all those neocons who choose
Not the truth, but to lie through their teeth
"Merry Fitzmas! You lose!"

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 06:55 AM

81. In over his head

and likely because of his Bush administration job. All he did was organize dirty tricks since the Nixon era. That did not give him the pulse of the polls or the people, not the skills needed to campaign. He styled himself as a modern Hanna but the modern plutocrats are nowhere so self entitled as they were then. There is not just some opposition from poor regional populist Democrats out of power since the Civil War. There is no real modern conservative philosophy, just cheating and power tripping back to the nineteenth century- which ain't happening. It was like Kissinger admiring and modeling German nineteenth century foreign policy, but much less professional.

Let's not forget another GOP powerhouse, Ralph Reed and the Christian coalition- who also tried to make a comeback of sorts this year and remains most famous for enriching himself largely out of the campaign funds. Inflated importance, diminishing results and backward thinking.

Was there any genius in the GOP this year? Much sound and fury which guaranteed a loss of the presidency AND the Senate when even modest competence and moderately "good" candidates(if they have more than handful left anyway) would have given them unmerited success. Maybe they just wanted to gamble and see how little they could offer America and still shove a GOP "victory" of Monsters and Morons(a good title for a biopic) down our throats and operate a corporatist behind the scenes tyranny behind the scenes. Did they even purge the nuts and remove the stain of having plundered and murdered and economically ruined the country? They tripled down and actually expected to win.

The only real assumption they tested far beyond its simplistic limits was that as the economy was bad so the sitting party loses votes. Big money and unfair media buys elections. The slightest bit of give in this thief take all scenario might have made it work, but despite all their obstruction, the attempt to crush the economy failed- as did their nerve, intelligence and the skills absolutely necessary for a minority party to survive. They have forgotten since Reagan that they ARE the minority party and still shrinking. They dissed their own moderates and now they are eating their own, the true sign they have utterly abandoned their former power as a disciplined and "conservative" party. In the process they spit on their moderate base and whole groups ripe for divide and conquer.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 07:02 AM

82. Perhaps, but in 2 months they are going to be calling for Boehnor's head, too.

And a player to be named later.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:32 PM

83. There's a problem here, however. Rove is the one who said the Tea Partiers are crazy

Which, of course, they are. He didn't like the tea party, and now they are the ones who are going to take over?

They're winning every election almost here in NC.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:39 PM

84. Repuke cannabilism....LOVE IT!!! nt

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 12:44 PM

85. They need to be more with the Evangelists and Fascists!

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:16 PM

86. Their problem is they cant win without the wacko's and they cant win with them either. nm

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #86)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:34 PM

87. Good way to put it. Very good.

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