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Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:47 PM

Why doesn't Hillary want to stay in for the second term?

Just occurred to me I have no idea why this seems to be almost a done deal.

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Reply Why doesn't Hillary want to stay in for the second term? (Original post)
gateley Nov 2012 OP
msongs Nov 2012 #1
Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #2
justiceischeap Nov 2012 #3
Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #4
justiceischeap Nov 2012 #8
graham4anything Nov 2012 #10
justiceischeap Nov 2012 #13
graham4anything Nov 2012 #26
justiceischeap Nov 2012 #30
Journeyman Nov 2012 #17
Raine1967 Nov 2012 #19
graham4anything Nov 2012 #25
Democrat 4 Ever Nov 2012 #31
graham4anything Nov 2012 #32
liberal N proud Nov 2012 #5
scheming daemons Nov 2012 #6
Kolesar Nov 2012 #20
graham4anything Nov 2012 #7
Raine1967 Nov 2012 #23
gateley Nov 2012 #9
PatSeg Nov 2012 #11
calico1 Nov 2012 #12
elleng Nov 2012 #14
Kurovski Nov 2012 #16
Stinky The Clown Nov 2012 #15
HappyMe Nov 2012 #18
phleshdef Nov 2012 #21
SoCalDem Nov 2012 #22
spanone Nov 2012 #24
JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #27
murray hill farm Nov 2012 #28
gateley Nov 2012 #33
WI_DEM Nov 2012 #29
Shankapotomus Nov 2012 #34

Response to gateley (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:48 PM

1. maybe she wants a real life doing cool things for herself nt

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Response to gateley (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:49 PM

2. Have you looked at her lately?

She's exhausted. She has said she would not serve a second term.

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Response to gateley (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:49 PM

3. She says she wants to enjoy her "golden" years

She'd like to read a book (or was it write one). Not have to worry about hair and make-up. I think she's tired. She's 65, she's earned some time off. Though some will argue that she's gearing up for 2016 but she's said twice now that she isn't running for President again.

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Response to justiceischeap (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:49 PM

4. She's 65....

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:51 PM

8. Doh, I'll edit. Thanks.

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Response to justiceischeap (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:51 PM

10. do you realize that ageism is the same as racism/sexism/homophobia & other isms?

 

Hillary45
and I wasn't a fan in 2008
I am now.
She earned her loyalty

btw, she is the same age as the legendary female leader Golda Meir was when she charted a new course through history.

one should be ashamed of themselves for mentioning age in 2012.

sheesh, do we want a young pup like Paul Ryan?I would hope not.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #10)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:54 PM

13. It's not sexism to point out that she's 65 and tired and wants her own time.

She recently told Marie Claire that she does not plan to run for president in 2016, and that she’s looking forward to being off the “high wire of national and international politics and leadership” and having her own time back.

She has said she plans to write another book and continue fighting for women’s rights. Her husband told CBS’s Face the Nation that he has “no earthly idea” what she’ll do, but that she is tired and needs a break.

So, as the first former first lady to serve in a president’s cabinet prepares to step down, let’s take a look back at some of the many reasons we heart Hillary.

http://www.refinery29.com/hillary-clinton


Saying that she can't do something because she's 65 is sexist, stating her age is not.

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Response to justiceischeap (Reply #13)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:28 PM

26. if you believe this, then I have a bridge under water to sell for you in my NYC

 

and I will bet you Mitt's 10grand that you are wrong

"she does not have plans"

means

she will be 45.

there is NO other choice, unless you want a republican to win.

Obama himself said he wasn't running in 2008 til he did

as did JFK RFK Teddy, Jimmy Carter and every other person but LBJ who remained true to his heart and word in 1968, even though he would have kicked Nixon's ass.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #26)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:55 PM

30. Until she says otherwise, I'll believe

if she does decide to run, I'll support her. If she wins the primaries, I'll support her, if she's nominated, I'll support her but to think that we can't win in 2016 without Hillary is nearsighted and defeatist.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #10)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:05 PM

17. 65 isn't the same for everyone. . .

I'm 58, lift weights an hour or more a day and walk 4 to 5 miles a day. All I take are vitamins. My wife is 57, has RA, and though not debilitated is certainly not "in her prime." Her condition is no fault of hers, and my condition (given all the abuse I heaped on my body in my youth) is certainly not attributable to "clean living" or any lifelong desire to live to a healthy old age.

I hope Hillary is fit and able to campaign in '16. But if not, that won't be anything to fault her for.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #10)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:09 PM

19. FAIL

Sorry -- that wasn't Ageism.

Can we at least respect What the Woman herself has said before you go around excoriating other people with such labels?

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Response to Raine1967 (Reply #19)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:25 PM

25. Elizabeth Warren is the same age as Hillary is by the way so I take it she is out too?

 

every single major politician doesn't say they are running 4 years ahead. Obama didn't either

you gotta be naive to think anyone would announce

AND HILLARY IS BY LAW NOT ALLOWED TO WHILE SOS
It is NOT a political job

like 'duh

I would think people here were smarter

Do you think Bill worked his ass off without knowing Hillary was running and that Obama was supporting her?

btw-just a fact- Elizabeth Warren IS THE SAME AGE AS HILLARY.
you do realize that, don't you

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #25)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:00 PM

31. Warren and Clinton may be the same age but the jobs they both have been doing for the last four

years are worlds apart. Hillary has been a great Secretary of State, she has worked her butt off, logged millions of miles traveling to deal with some of the most difficulty situations in the WORLD. Before that she was a hard driving Senator, and before that First Lady with daily attacks to herself and her family and before that First Lady of Arkansas and before that.... she has always worked for the good of our country and its citizens.

Give the lady her due, if she says she wants to rest and enjoy life, so be it. That's not to say a couple of years of chilling out and she won't be ready for another fight but I take her at her word. She has earned our respect, well wishes and our undying thanks for the jobs she has done.

And I would be proud to call her President Clinton if she changes her mind.

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Response to Democrat 4 Ever (Reply #31)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:01 PM

32. YUP. Hillary has the credentials as no one (male or female) does for 2016

 

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Response to gateley (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:49 PM

5. That job has to be exhausting

And not too many stay more than 4 years in that position.

The whole cabinet and staff will evolve over the next few months and look nothing like the current cabinet.

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Response to gateley (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:49 PM

6. Secretary of State is mentally and physically exhausting


Very few people are Secretaries of State for more than one term.

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Response to scheming daemons (Reply #6)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:10 PM

20. Nobody sticks around in that job for long

It is tough. We should throw her a party or a parade for her effort.

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Response to gateley (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:49 PM

7. because she is going to rest before becoming Hillary45 in 2016

 

most people only stay one term in the cabinet positions

and she has done a major good spot-on job

I salute her and will vote for her in 2016

only reason she lost in 2008 was that us Obama voters voted for him.
With her loyalty to him the last 4 years, she earned my and our vote and shall destroy Jeb Bush in the general election 2016

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #7)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:14 PM

23. Idon;t know about you, but I respect her enough

to actually listen to what she has said about 2016.

If you respect her, respect what she has said. And maybe you should wait another few years before dedicating your vote.

Right now, I'm pretty glad that the guy who earned my vote on Tuesday is POTUS -still.

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Response to gateley (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:51 PM

9. Thanks, everyone!

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Response to gateley (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:53 PM

11. She looks so tired

The woman really needs a break. She took the job as SOS after a long, brutal presidential campaign.

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Response to gateley (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:54 PM

12. It's an exhausting job. n/t

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Response to gateley (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:54 PM

14. Tired, or looking for new job?

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Response to elleng (Reply #14)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:05 PM

16. Yessssss

Yesssss indeeeeed.

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Response to gateley (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:56 PM

15. Have you seen her Frequent Flyer account???

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Response to gateley (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:08 PM

18. She wants time for herself

and with her family.
SoS has to be a mentally and physically exhausting job. She gave her all from being SoS, to her role in her husband's presidency.

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Response to gateley (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:12 PM

21. She said ages ago that she couldn't do more than 4 years. I don't think any SOS stays in that long.

Its a grueling job with high stress, long hours and neverending jet lag. Given that any particular President is doing his/her job as they should be, the SOS is arguably the second hardest job in government.

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Response to gateley (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:14 PM

22. She's tired..

She needs a rest and she's probably looking forward to some down-time..

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Response to gateley (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:15 PM

24. non, non, non, non stop traveling....did i mention non stop traveling?

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Response to gateley (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:29 PM

27. She's been in public life

for a very long time. Maybe she wants a personal life? Or maybe just a break between projects...

Whatever it is, she's let it be known for some time now she will stop being SOS sometime after '12 elections.

I say let her do as she pleases with nothing but a THANK YOU! from all of us.

Julie

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Response to gateley (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:44 PM

28. It is her choice to make..

and I trust that choice....and respect her right and courage to make it for all the reasons suggested above...and her own.

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Response to murray hill farm (Reply #28)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:03 PM

33. Totally agree -- just curious if she'd shared her reasons.

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Response to gateley (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:45 PM

29. Tired--been going non-stop in public service for 30 years.

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Response to gateley (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:08 PM

34. It's good political strategy

She had a relatively great run as SOS, well, until the Benghazi attack, which may or may not mar what still was a stellar performance in that position. If she gets out now, she has an almost perfect performance as SOS under her belt, she stays out of politics for four years and, in so doing, avoids any possible political controversy or criticism, she then coasts to a presidential nomination in 2016. Very good strategy.

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