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Sun Sep 2, 2012, 02:41 PM

Just got contacted by phone by Americans for Prosperity caller,,,,,

He informed me who he was representing and then asked
"Do you feel Obama's stimlulus helped or hurt the country?"
I told him, "It definitely helped the only issue I had was it was not large enough".
He replied,"Uh,oh, well do you know the debt under obama has risen,blahblahblah,,,,"

I cut him off and told him,
Do YOU realize you are reading from a prepared script given to you by an organization who does not care about this country and is only in it to discredit Obama while he is in office preventing him from doing ANYTHING worthwhile, and when he does(healthcare) it has to go to the SCOTUS?
And ALL the GOP govenors that oppose it at the state level need to be voted out of office by their residents since they care less about them than staying in office?
So tell me your personal opinion, Do you really feel in your heart Obama is doing things right in this country and the GOP is mucking things up on purpose?
He hung up
Wasn't expectiing that,,,,,,

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Reply Just got contacted by phone by Americans for Prosperity caller,,,,, (Original post)
benld74 Sep 2012 OP
skeewee08 Sep 2012 #1
hobbit709 Sep 2012 #2
nanabugg Sep 2012 #3
nxylas Sep 2012 #34
A Simple Game Sep 2012 #4
chknltl Sep 2012 #5
SunSeeker Sep 2012 #6
obxhead Sep 2012 #7
calimary Sep 2012 #8
Ineeda Sep 2012 #36
calimary Sep 2012 #50
Brother Buzz Sep 2012 #9
AllyCat Sep 2012 #23
CBHagman Sep 2012 #49
Politicalboi Sep 2012 #51
RavensChick Sep 2012 #10
Kyad06 Sep 2012 #11
ailsagirl Sep 2012 #12
LiberalAndProud Sep 2012 #18
ailsagirl Sep 2012 #20
bayareaboy Sep 2012 #13
barbtries Sep 2012 #14
DavidL Sep 2012 #15
obxhead Sep 2012 #16
DavidL Sep 2012 #19
Patiod Sep 2012 #21
DavidL Sep 2012 #43
gateley Sep 2012 #39
DavidL Sep 2012 #42
tclambert Sep 2012 #17
IdaBriggs Sep 2012 #24
1GirlieGirl Sep 2012 #30
tclambert Sep 2012 #48
NOLALady Sep 2012 #22
PotatoChip Sep 2012 #25
1GirlieGirl Sep 2012 #32
PotatoChip Sep 2012 #33
Curmudgeoness Sep 2012 #44
PotatoChip Sep 2012 #46
Curmudgeoness Sep 2012 #47
PotatoChip Sep 2012 #52
KegCreekDem Sep 2012 #26
avebury Sep 2012 #27
madrchsod Sep 2012 #28
hue Sep 2012 #29
KurtNYC Sep 2012 #31
jillan Sep 2012 #35
coldbeer Sep 2012 #37
lonestarnot Sep 2012 #38
pansypoo53219 Sep 2012 #40
southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #41
elbloggoZY27 Sep 2012 #45

Response to benld74 (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 02:44 PM

1. WTG

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Response to benld74 (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 02:45 PM

2. That's their usual reaction when they hear something they don't want to.

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Response to hobbit709 (Reply #2)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 02:47 PM

3. GOOD you were able to get that much fact in....way to go! nt

 

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Response to hobbit709 (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 11:35 AM

34. Or that wasn't in their script

The caller was probably some low-wage peon who gets paid by the number of calls they make, and wasn't going to get shitcanned for falling below target. Been there, done that (not for political campaigns, but it's the same whoever you're calling on behalf of).

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Response to benld74 (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 03:41 PM

4. I feel about those pollsters the same as I feel about the trolls on DU.

They're fun to play with if you have the time.

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Response to benld74 (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 03:59 PM

5. He probably stuck his fingers in his ears...

...and said something profound like; "la la la can't hear you, neener neener." The facts challenged crowd does that a lot I think.

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Response to benld74 (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 04:00 PM

6. K&R

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Response to benld74 (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 04:36 PM

7. I put them on hold.

I tell them I'm very concerned, but am in the middle of something. Can they hold for 2 minutes?

I've gotten a couple of those calls to sit there and listen while I go about my chores for as long as 20 minutes. I'll pop in every 2 or 3 minutes to tell them I'm almost done, just be patient.

While they're holding for me, they're not calling someone else that might actually listen to them.

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Response to obxhead (Reply #7)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 04:48 PM

8. Yeah, the more you tie them up as a "stealth CONservative," the less time they'll have

to infect somebody else.

Dirty trick? Yeah, if you feel like calling it that. Fuck it! They do it, I think WE should too!

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Response to calimary (Reply #8)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 12:02 PM

36. "Praise Jesus. Hold on a minute while I get my credit card,"

works after the spiel. Make a little noise rattling stuff around as if you're really looking, call out, "Hold on, hold on -- just a second. I'll be right with you." After several minutes, you fumble around, hit a couple of numbers on the phone and then 'accidentally' hang up. Great fun and well worth the five minutes or so it takes.

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Response to Ineeda (Reply #36)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 07:41 PM

50. OMG! Gotta remember that one!!!!

Only problem is - we don't get many republi-CON phone callers to casa de calimary. But I've GOTTA remember that one! Burn up those minutes stringing them along on the phone so they aren't able to hit up more easy marks.

LOVE the "hit a couple of numbers on the phone" part! LOVE that!!!!

Might also want to figure up some variations on this, just to mix it up a little and keep them off their game.

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Response to obxhead (Reply #7)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 04:49 PM

9. I've discovered they don't like waiting for long

When they start their spiel, I interrupt it by telling them, "wait a second, I got water boiling on the stove", and set the receiver down and listen for the disconnect sound from the phone. Generally, they don't hang around for more than thirty seconds.

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Response to obxhead (Reply #7)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 12:44 AM

23. We let our preschooler answer the phone.

But I have done your trick too. "Great! I've been waiting for you folks to call! Hold on while I finish up something". Then wait for the beeping to start.

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Response to obxhead (Reply #7)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 07:40 PM

49. I'll have to remember that one.

Any obstacle to throw up before Grover Norquist and his minions.

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Response to obxhead (Reply #7)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 07:50 PM

51. I've heard of putting small children

On the line while mommy or daddy is busy works good too. LOL!

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Response to benld74 (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 05:14 PM

10. I love those questions!

Hope you don't mind, but I'm going to copy and paste the questions so when I get a call from those fucks I'll be ready!

Thank you!!

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Response to benld74 (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 05:16 PM

11. probabley some poor temp help

making minimum wage at a call center working against his own interests

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Response to benld74 (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 05:18 PM

12. Aren't they just supposed to poll people? And not inject repug rhetoric into the call??

Guess the rules have changed there, too

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Response to ailsagirl (Reply #12)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 05:59 PM

18. Americans for Prosperity is not a polling organization.

It was a push poll. I think they must be an effective campaign tool, because it's a campaign season hazard.

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Response to LiberalAndProud (Reply #18)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 07:19 PM

20. I see. I missed that--thanks

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Response to benld74 (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 05:37 PM

13. I can't imagine folks doing those calls for free ...


I have done it free as a union member with maybe a slice of pizza thrown in.

So do you figure that pretty soon this will go offshore as well?

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Response to benld74 (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 05:39 PM

14. probably just some kid making minimun wage

whose calls are being recorded. after all isn't that the koch's organization?

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Response to benld74 (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 05:44 PM

15. You have to realize these people are only "doing their job"

 

These people who call you and are real live voices, they are being paid $7.25 an hour, (minimum wage in states that have only a federal minimum wage).

They work on getting you to give $5 $10, $20 to Romney, and they get $.25 for every $10 they get, (2.5%), and their employer gets $1 for every $10 contributed.

That's who and what these callers are.

I have a strategy for dealing with these people.

1) get a caller ID phone, with an answering device attached.
2) don't answer numbers you don't recognize
3) Make sure everyone you WANT to call you calls you from a phone where their name and number comes up. Even police, fire, hospitals, and other emergency services calling you to inform you that your older great uncle just go shot.. they will call back or leave a message as to who to call. ("This it the XYZ police department, please call us back as soon as possible regarding your great uncle... full name.") Unless you run an ambulance service from your home phone number, there is no need to answer these calls. If your house is about to be hit by a tornado, the caller will leave a message.

4) Don't answer these calls, as soon as random calling or fund-raising calling becomes not profitable, it will stop, hopefully within the next 4 years.


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Response to DavidL (Reply #15)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 05:54 PM

16. I disagree

As I posted up thread, answer the calls and try to burn as much of their time as possible.

Are they going to change your mind? No, not likely.

Pick up the phone and BS with them or otherwise tie them up for as long as you possibly can. Even 1 wasted minute might be 1 or 2 calls that person can't make that day.

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Response to obxhead (Reply #16)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 06:09 PM

19. We disagree, but I have been there!

 

in 1990, I worked for one of the first "push polling" places in Southern California, FOR FIVE DAYS!

We were taught a script, we could vary it here and there, but we had to complete each call in 9 minutes.

We could be nice and friendly to people who pledged $20 or more, we had to hang up when the person that we had called showed any signs of aggression, hostility, disrespect, or indicated in ANY way that continuing the call would be a waste of time. I hung up several calls within the first minute, and went on to the next sucker, asking them 8-10 questions and then asking them for $20. A couple of times in that week, I got $50 from the person I called. Never got $100. We called to make you feel like we wanted to know your opinion, and then put our hands on your wallet, nothing more, nothing less. We didn't care what you thought, we wanted to know if you'd give us money.

We got $6.something an hour, and bonuses for over $200 a day in contributions to our candidate. We worked a split shift, 9AM to 1 PM, 4PM to 9PM, yes 9 hours a day. Weekends were different but I quit on Friday.

Over 100 calls each day were a waste of time, both for me and the person I called. (I apologize now for waking people up from naps, or home sick from work.) I think I made quota one day, after about 120 calls that day, in nine hours. Lunch and dinner could only be eaten in break rooms, no food or drink on the "call floor" where we were 5-8 feet away from the next call guy/gal, and were being watched and random call monitored every minute.

Don't waste these poor folks' time. I was poor, had no job, no income, a $500 rent, and a car to get to and from work and gas was $1 a gallon, even then in S. Cal. I think I took home a total of $218 for all those 4.5 days of work before I just quit, had enough of being yelled at.

I got a job the next week waiting tables at a breakfast place, $3 an hour plus tips, made $440 the first week.

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Response to DavidL (Reply #19)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 07:27 PM

21. My husband is an actor, and will take ANYTHING

except something he believes is a rip-off (furniture rental, payday loans) or scam (Republican politics).

There are some things a person just has to say "no" to.

Better to work waiting tables at that breakfast place.

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Response to Patiod (Reply #21)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 01:13 PM

43. Your husband is a better man than I was 22 years ago!

 

I learned never to do something like that ever again.

Your husband knows that lesson.

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Response to DavidL (Reply #19)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 12:26 PM

39. Good post. I just say "thank you but I'm not interested" and hang up, so the poor

worker can get on to the next call. Neither they nor their bosses care about our political leanings, why the other side is so evil, or how good our candidate is. They only care about the money, so let the guy/gal move on and try to make a buck or two.

If we want to change minds, that's not the arena.

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Response to gateley (Reply #39)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 01:12 PM

42. Thanks but not interested is a wonderful response.

 

So is, simply, "don't call this number again". (It gets you off the computer list they have, just with the click of a button on the computer screen.... of course that only works in that ONE call center, they don't want to waste time with you the next begging session of push-polls or whatever they are doing next month to make money).

I grew up a lot that week. Found out that I would never take a job I didn't believe in, ever again!

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Response to benld74 (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 05:59 PM

17. "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not

understanding it."
- Sinclair Upton

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Response to tclambert (Reply #17)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 08:01 AM

24. Love this quote. nt

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Response to tclambert (Reply #17)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 10:15 AM

30. Sinclair Upton?

Thanks for posting, it's a good quote, I've received it before from Quote Of The Day.

But the man's name was Upton Sinclair.

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Response to 1GirlieGirl (Reply #30)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 07:38 PM

48. About that, sorry. Bad my.

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Response to benld74 (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 10:56 PM

22. My caller didn't hang up on me.

We talked about a half an hour. By the time I was finished with him, I am certain he was ready to switch sides. He left the script and started agreeing with me.

I really enjoyed that encounter.

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Response to PotatoChip (Reply #25)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 10:24 AM

32. Doesn't matter what persuasion the caller was

The caller approached the poster from the point of view of an anti-Obama repub. There was only one way to respond, and the poster did.

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Response to PotatoChip (Reply #25)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 01:31 PM

44. I am not sure that the callers are not supposed to hang up on you.

Every single time that I get these types of calls, and I don't give them the "correct" answer from the first question, I am hung up on. This leads me to believe that it is standard practice for them to cut the call off in short order if they have someone who is not in agreement with their agenda.

Or maybe just all of the ones who call ME are not doing it right.

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Response to PotatoChip (Reply #46)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 07:26 PM

47. Hmmm, differing suggestions in this thread.

You say they do not mind if the person goes on and on. Others say that they are only wanting to get donations/sales, so that keeps them from being able to reach the goals. So now I don't know if I am doing the caller (who I realize probably does not believe what they are saying from the script) a favor or screwing them out of the job or money if I keep them on the phone. I really don't want to do harm to any of the people calling, even if I have been know to be angry about being bothered.

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Response to benld74 (Original post)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 09:44 AM

26. Thanks - I will have to post this by the phone

in case Americans for Prosperity (of Billionares) calls.

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Response to benld74 (Original post)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 09:44 AM

27. K&R nt

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Response to benld74 (Original post)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 10:00 AM

28. my daughter did this during one election...

she was calling for a candidate in a southern state. funny thing is the firm she worked for could`t call about for candidate in illinois because that`s where she was calling from.

she was making about 8 an hour,reading from a script,could not answer a question , and was monitored during her call. she really did`t like her job.

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Response to benld74 (Original post)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 10:06 AM

29. Lol! Nice!!! K&R!!

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Response to benld74 (Original post)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 10:21 AM

31. Chris Rock: If you vote against Obama because he can't get stuff done, it's like saying,

"this guy can't cure cancer. I'm gonna vote for cancer."

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Response to benld74 (Original post)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 11:37 AM

35. I had a similar call from some constitutional group that was telling me that Obama's ss card is from

Connecticut and that just proves he was not born in the US.
On and on and on with more lies.

When it was my turn to talk - I told them that President Obama was elected because he won the majority of votes and the electoral votes. That's how it works in a Democracy. If they don't like living in a democracy - then move.

Then I told them the were the least patriotic Americans for spreading lies about the leader of the free world - while we have troops on the ground (love to use their line against them) - and said HOW DARE YOU try to weaken the President of the US???


Then I hung up because my other phone was ringing.... But it sure felt good




These people living in the bubble need a reality check.

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Response to benld74 (Original post)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 12:03 PM

37. WOW! that was super benld74.

I should copy that and put it next to my phone.

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Response to benld74 (Original post)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 12:13 PM

38. They know better than to call me.

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Response to benld74 (Original post)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 01:07 PM

40. human?

i was HUMAN polled last week. 2 questions, at least 2 for me. who will i vote for. obama of course. 2nd, wo can fix the economy, republicans of republicans(the rite was ALWAYS 1st)? "well, since the republicans ruined the economy, i'll say democrats."

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Response to benld74 (Original post)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 01:11 PM

41. That's great and you did it on their dime and time. Way to go

 

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Response to benld74 (Original post)

Mon Sep 3, 2012, 02:30 PM

45. Got the Real Story

 

Watched Bill Moyer's show the other day and will read "The Party is Over". It lays out the real Agenda of the GOP.

Wake up Americans because we have been sold out to REALLY BIG MONEY.


The President does not say NO but you know who does.

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