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"How to spot a misogynist"

Do any of these sound familiar?


If you want to see real oppression, go to the Middle East.

The problems here are threefold. First, it implies women in the west should be grateful for the benevolence of their natural overlords. Who cares if 1 in 3 of you will experience sexual assault in your lifetime, while also enjoying the privilege of lower pay than your male counterparts and the symbolic annihilation of yourselves in literature and film? In case you didnít know, women in Afghanistan are being stoned to death. So why donít you just go ahead and submit your complaint to the STFU file . . .

4. Itís a science thing

ďLook, men and women are built differently. Itís biological. Men are more visual, women are more emotional. Thatís why more men are in executive roles. Itís about merit. If women were better, they wouldnít be so crap. I didnít make the rules.Ē


And the ever so popular

5. Men are oppressed too, therefore women arenít! Or something.

ĎIf feminists really cared about equality, theyíd be addressing all the inequality that faces men. Like, why do feminists only care about breast cancer and not prostate cancer? Why arenít feminists advocating for single dads? Why wonít women sleep with me when Iím a really nice guy and Iíve made a particular effort to be nice to them, particularly? Until feminism can answer that, Iím afraid I donít really see it as being legitimate.Ē

This is the last bastion of the misogynistís argument Ė their self fancying checkmate, if you will. What these people are basically saying is that, despite the overwhelming evidence of entrenched sexual, physical and ideological oppression of women, the only way feminism can really be fair is if it first identifies and solves all of the ways in which the patriarchy also oppresses men.


http://www.dailylife.com.au/news-and-views/dl-opinion/how-to-spot-a-misogynist-20120430-1xueh.html

Imagine thinking the worst thing about rape is not the crime or the harm to victims

but that a man might be exposed to a PSA that mentions rape and men within the same 60s seconds?

It turns out this so-called "misandrist" PSA was made by a men's group at FSU, men who like women and don't want to see them raped, men who aren't so self-absorbed that they worry more about their egos being bruised at the mention of the word rape than the actual crime or its victims. This is a group of young men who likes and respects women and isn't so self-pitying that they see an ad that mentions the word men as an attack upon themselves. In fact, they made that PSA. These are strong men, confident enough in themselves that do not need or want to see rape victims blamed for the assaults against them. Rather than actively promoting rape culture by trying to silence victims and claim men have nothing to do with a culture that promotes sexual assault, they tell other men "don't rape her." "Don't rape her." That is all. These are not men who worry more about their warped persecution complexes than victims of sexual assault. These are allies to women and good human beings who want to see a better society.

Yet some insist rape PSAs should focus only on women, since they see women as responsible for their own assault. PSAs must never mention the word men, despite the fact that 99% of rapists are men (and 10% of victims in civil society, far more in prison). The misogynists insist they should not have to teach their sons to respect women's boundaries. Mind you this mindset is simultaneously accompanied by protestations that having sex with a drunk woman should not be considered rape. The law is irrelevant to them. This same mindset also claims women who say no really mean yes.

The students at FSU, thankfully, do not revel in such intensely misogynistic ideology. They care about women because they are human beings, friends, and partners. Astoundingly, they are concerned more about rape victims than their own egos, which clearly are far stronger and healthier than those who take offensive at PSAs directed at rapists. The self-pity some enjoy wallowing in is pathetic. This PSA was funded and created by a group of young men--men who care about women and the world they live in.


Courtesy of csziggy, a proud alumnus of Florida State University, this is the info on the group behind the video:

Men Advocating Responsible Conduct (MARC) is a group of students at FSU

Group that made this PSA:
Men Advocating Responsible Conduct (MARC) is a group of students at the Florida State University who seek to educate their peers concerning the importance of appropriate and responsible behavior.

The Mission of MARC is to raise awareness about the socialization of men and the cultural issues of sexism and gender violence. Through advocacy, education and training we are committed to creating a campus culture in which gender equality and respect prevail.

Members of MARC include undergraduate and graduate students of Florida State University who demonstrate strong leadership skills and who exhibit a sincere interest in addressing issues such as sexual assault on college campuses. If you are interested in becoming a member of MARC, simply fill out and submit the application form to MARC and meet with the director for an informal interview.

Campus Partners

Victim Advocate Program
Dean of Students Department
Division of Student Affairs

http://sga.fsu.edu/marc/


For those who may have missed the context, here is the video:

A PSA that targets rapists rather than victims.



Don't rape. That's all there is to it. Just don't. A simple message.

Courtesy of csziggy:
Men Advocating Responsible Conduct (MARC) is a group of students at FSU

Group that made this PSA:
Men Advocating Responsible Conduct (MARC) is a group of students at the Florida State University who seek to educate their peers concerning the importance of appropriate and responsible behavior
.

The Mission of MARC is to raise awareness about the socialization of men and the cultural issues of sexism and gender violence. Through advocacy, education and training we are committed to creating a campus culture in which gender equality and respect prevail.

Members of MARC include undergraduate and graduate students of Florida State University who demonstrate strong leadership skills and who exhibit a sincere interest in addressing issues such as sexual assault on college campuses. If you are interested in becoming a member of MARC, simply fill out and submit the application form to MARC and meet with the director for an informal interview.

Campus Partners

Victim Advocate Program
Dean of Sudents Department
Division of Student Affairs

http://sga.fsu.edu/marc/


Let's have a hand for these great guys from FSU!

On this day the heavens opened up, Satan ascended to the earth

and the Hillary haters cried, Elizabeth, why hast thou forsaken us?




Stand the President in the corner

and make him write men 500 times on the blackboard. Feel better now?




I pay health insurance for lots of conditions I don't have

I pay for coverage for heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes--none of which I myself have. I pay for coverage for spinal cord injuries, bronchitis, kidney failure, and lung diseases. I pay for coverage for leukemia, breast cancer, testicular cancer, throat cancer, bone cancer, as well as lots and lots of diseases that I have been fortunate never to develop in my lifetime. I also pay for maternity coverage that I myself will never take advantage of. Why? Because that is what medical insurance is: it pools together funds across a population and spreads the risk. We never know what coverage we will eventually need, but we do know at some point in our lives we will need medical care of some type.

Why all this angst over paying for childbirth? Set aside the fact that we are liberals here who are supposed to have some concern for the broader society, as human beings we all have an interest in the propagation of the species. So what if your gender means you won't use certain types of medical services? There are a lot of medical services that, if you are fortunate, you will never need. No one uses every type of medical coverage. So what's with the belly aching about insurance companies having to cover birth control and child birth? Are the profits of the insurance companies really more important than your fellow citizens? And for those whose income is low enough to need government subsidies, why do liberals suddenly turn on each other because being female is no longer a pre-existing condition? Folks

three pages didn't make a lot of difference

despite the wider variety of topics.

Yep, I'm one note, or 1.25 note

You can't do a journal feed but you can paste the text. This is the first page of mine. I'm one and a quarter note.

Men's room

I just noticed my name appears. Sigh. Quite the contrast with HOF.

Here is HOF

and don't you dare say the gun control reform activism group is the gungeon.

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