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This is how it looks to me a couple of months

from the first primary vote.

Polls this week will show Hillary still leads Sanders and O'Malley.

Hillary will win IA. NH is a toss up at this point.

Hillary will take SC as Bernie can't make inroads into the AA community.

Hillary will take Nevada as Bernie can't make I raids there in the Hispanic community.

Come Super Tuesday Hillary will wrap up the nomination by winning enough delegates.

The current OP's attacking Hillary are looking to me to be increasingly hostile but futile. There isn't much there in the form of debate just mean spirited attacks.

I think that is because Bernie's campaign is a continuous round of events were he repeats his talking points with no substance as to how those things get done beside raising taxes.

By contrast Hillary is laying out her program one step at a time with substance.

Both candidates support similar ideals.

I take no stock in what Bernie folks say about Hillary.

The main contrast I see here is Bernie's plan relies on raising taxes and increased Federal spending to pay for his ideas.

Hillary's plan is a mix of government programs and private investment.

So we will look back on Sanders' and O'Malley's campaigns as one were we are told that government can solve everything if we just pay into it enough and another one that never really took off.

So we are going into the holiday season then soon the primary elections.

May we all come together again and to those who will not support the nominee,
good bye.

Infrastucture bank is not an evil plot by Hillary


By establishing a centralized federal lending authority in the form of an infrastructure bank, the United States could:

Increase public investment in infrastructure

Leverage billions in additional private investment

Streamline existing federal lending initiatives

Increase the share of federal money that flows to projects meeting rigorous cost-benefit criteria
With a relatively modest investment, the federal government could enable the completion of numerous large-scale projects of critical economic importance throughout our country, potentially producing thousands of jobs in the process.

So the defense of Bernie Sanders' lack of a foreign policy is to make up shit about Hillary

Bernie gives the same speech he's given for 40 years at every venue he goes to.

I don't even need to go to one of his functions to know what he has to say. I've heard it on "brunch with Bernie" for years on Thom Hartman's radio show. I heard it in two debates so far. Probably if we had 100 more debates we would hear it 100 more times.

Free tuition
$15 per hour
Family leave
Job creation
single payer
break up big banks
the top 1% have most of the wealth
Take the country back form the oligarchs

These are all good things

What is lacking is the "how do we get there" and a foreign policy

Now in defense of the above we hear this:

Hillary is a war monger
Hillary is in bed with Wall Street
Hillary is a republican
Hillary is not progressive
Hillary is not a Democrat
Hillary is Bill Clinton II

For six months now I have been waiting for Bernie to tell me how we get there.

Maybe Bernie will get the message like he did with BLM (when he added social justice) and add to his stump speech some "how" instead of just "what."

My dread is that Bernie is like Bill McKay in the movie "The Candidate"

Bill McKay, a novice who has just won an improbable victory, turns dazedly to his campaign manager and asks, "What do we do now?"

Bernie is really no leader. He is mostly a rehearsed set of talking points.

If single payer gets a foothold in this country

it could most likely be my state of CA that passes it.
We are leading in most progressive issues.
We need to legalize pot and a few other things like prison reform but we have the ability to try new things.
So all you single payer fans contribute to Gavin Newsom.
He will bring single payer closer to you than Bernie will.

This is old but still doable


Posts Tagged ‘Gavin Newsom’
OneCare in 2012? Yes. WE can.
December 1st, 2010 .What’s the Insurance Corporations’ Biggest Fear?
YOU and the Populist Uprising you Support!
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I think all of us think that single payer

health care is a good idea.

So is that all we need to do just agree that it is a good idea?

We elect Bernie and the next thing you know all health care providers set up for single payer. They will be willing to work longer hours for less reimbursement.

Medical clinics will invest in more equipment to cover the increased number of patients though their reimbursement goes to Medicare levels.

Insurance companies will shut their doors and lay everyone off and their investor's stock will go to zero value.

The wealthy will agree to pay higher taxes because they want health care for all.

Colleges will crank out more medical professionals who pay nothing for tuition and books.

Yep vote for Bernie because no problem is so big we can't ignore it.

What is the most resent example of a country switching

from for profit medical care to single payer?

What happened to those in the for profit health care business?

I'd like to hear from all the Hillary supporters

who will be switching to Bernie when the primary voting starts.

Hillary is above 50% and Bernie is around 30%. That leaves under 20% undecided. If they all break for Bernie (not likely) then some Hillary folks would have to switch to Bernie for him to win the nomination.

We are reading that 2015 is 2007 again and Bernie is Obama so who are you Hillary now Bernie later people?

Who Here is a hunger games fan?

"Single payer because other countries do it"

Is that enough to get people to vote for your candidate.

Someone says "well let's take a closer look at that."

Oh no! You lurched to the right!

Hell you look at a used car closer before you buy it than you do at Bernie's ideas.

You all know that Medicare is not free health care right?

Medicare part A (hospital bed day) coverage has a deductible for every plan year. There is a daily cost for days over 60.
Part B has a premium based on income.
There is part D which has costs for prescriptions
Then there is the payroll deduction.
I guess Medicare for all will cost us too.
I don't think Bernie's single payer means taxing us then care is free.
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