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Oh no!!! Bernie smears Hillary

with more of that truth telling http://www.politicususa.com/2015/11/17/toughest-attack-yet-bernie-sanders-accuses-hillary-clinton-healthcare-flip-flop.html

Sen. Sanders has kept his vow not to attack personally former Sec. Clinton, but he is trailing in the polls, and his campaign is getting more aggressive while trying to close the gap.

What is it about insuring everyone that HC and her supporters hate so much? Is it because it'll take money away from the next war she'll start or support, or that there'll then no longer be any insurance companies she can give speeches to?

Does anyone know how it is that 3rdway types/supporters weigh these things? MY likely flawed political calculus says that those issues, along with her Pontius Pilate act with the TPP, all individually dwarf whatever human harm comes from Bernie's gun votes.

It's almost up is down/less is more-like, ain't it?

And don't even get me started on the wisdom of his making the case that AGW is our greatest security threat. http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/11/16/3722355/bernie-sanders-climate-change-national-security-paris-climate-talks/ I thought that the Pentagon made that clear better than a decade ago now. http://training.fema.gov/hiedu/docs/crr/catastrophe%20readiness%20and%20response%20-%20appendix%202%20-%20abrupt%20climate%20change.pdf

My HC smear of the day -- Third Way Policies Gave Us the Great Recession

More generally Third Way has supported trade policies that have been designed to redistribute income upward and cost the country millions of good-paying middle income jobs. (must we all learn to share her love of NAFTA for example?) They also have refused to support measures that would address the ongoing trade deficit by adopting serious policies on currency management. It is understandable that Third Way would justify policies designed to redistribute income upward by saying they care about opportunity ("more money for Wall Street" is not a good political slogan), but that hardly makes the claim true.

On the other hand, policies advocated by Sanders, like a financial transactions tax and universal Medicare system, could provide a solid boost to growth by eliminating hundreds of billions of dollars of waste in the financial and health care sectors. These resources could be freed up to support productive investment, leading to an enormous boost to growth.

Hillary Clinton Does NOT Support a Financial Transactions Tax


surely there are very good reasons why that anyone on the other/right side of where the idiological center line use to be could understand and agree to.

The taxes proposed by Sanders and O'Malley would be a huge hit to Wall Street, bringing it back to the size, relative to the economy, that it was at two or three decades ago. Secretary Clinton has explicitly chosen not to go in this direction.

It is important for the public to recognize this difference. While the other two candidates are proposing measures that would be a major hit to the financial industry, Secretary Clinton is not. Voters should recognize this distinction in their positions; the reporting almost seems designed to hide it.

I don't have any idea why that "we all want HIllary destroyed!!" corporate MSM wouldn't be trumpeting such a thing, do you?

anti-hillary "liberal" media and her supporters overselling Bernie's email remark?

say it ain't so!!!!

These comments are something of a shift, but the media is also probably overselling them. It's not a gaping contradiction to say that American voters are sick of the media hype over Clinton's emails and the degree to which that hype has crowded out substantive discussion of policy and also say that a nonpartisan investigation (i.e. not the House Benghazi Committee) is reasonable and valid. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/11/05/1445027/-Bernie-Sanders-calls-investigation-of-Hillary-Clinton-s-emails-valid?detail=hide

they would never do anything like that, would they?

How Conservatives Exploited The Charlie Hebdo Terror Attack In Paris

it appears that the only one/thing not attacked is Glenn Greenwald. Is that because he's considered one of them by them these days or something?


America's real patriots fought to expose and end torture

obviously. Those that did the opposite aren't patriots, even if the POTUS thinks so. Maybe the torturers are just normal patriots, whereas those that worked against them are "superpatriots"???

After more than a decade of denial and concealment on the part of our government, President Obama's recent acknowledgment that "we tortured some folks" felt like a milestone. Even in its spare, reductive phrasing, the president's statement opened up the possibility, finally, of national reflection, contrition and accountability.

But the president moved quickly to limit that conversation, painting those who authorized torture as "patriots" who were making difficult decisions under enormous pressure and urging the public not to feel "sanctimonious" because our military and intelligence leaders have "tough jobs." (the only honest deconstruction possible for his words on the matter imo as an educated used car salesman)

Obama was wrong to do this, and not only because patriotism isn't a defense to criminal conduct. The deeper problem with the president's account is that it consigned to obscurity the true heroes of the story: the courageous men and women throughout the military and intelligence services who kept faith with our values, and who fought to expose and end the torture.

Missing from Obama's remarks was any recognition that the decision to endorse torture was a contested one. In fact, that decision was challenged over and over in interrogation rooms and conference rooms and at every level of government. Soldiers intervened to protect prisoners from cruelty. FBI agents refused to participate in abusive CIA and military interrogations. Military judge advocates general decried the withholding of Geneva Convention protections and rejected the arguments of civilian lawyers justifying torture. Military prosecutors at the U.S. prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, resigned rather than prosecute prisoners on the basis of coerced evidence. Some CIA agents were so vocal about the abuses they saw in the field that they sparked a major agency investigation.

I roll my eyes every time I hear/read "Nation of laws/rule of law" from those

best able to make it so, whether it be a prosecutor in front of a grand jury seeking an indictment against a potentially murderous cop or the POTUS and his AG who have no substantial guilt-establishment burdens to overcome.

Which of those two is most likely to be making the "rule of law" utterance going froward, and has done so with the highest frequency in the past?

And if you're gonna give the POTUS/AG a pass in the form of a lack of condemnation for their lack of prosecuting, shouldn't the same be done for the prosecutor that never put the murdering white cop on the hook? It seems to me that their respective sins are largely the same in principle and practice -- a a willful and knowing denial of justice to the victims.

Of course both could ultimately be all my fault for not having been vociferous enough in my condemnations of the two-plus-tier criminal justice system in this country, or for not having come up with the method and means by which prosecutors can be made to eat their discretion in such matters, but I promise to keep working on both....

A Day Late & a Dollar Short: Obama & China agree on Languid Climate Goals

but it will be a good trade for a pipeline approval for his most avid supporters. It's obscene how the dem leaders coincidentally and in a very timely manner decide to use that pipeline in an effort to save a "liberal/progressive", no?

It is a sad commentary that this agreement is actually an improvement on previous goals of the two countries. And it is better to have an agreement with firm dates and targets than to have the two carbon monsters take turns hiding behind each other at climate talks. But this agreement isnít a commitment to reduce carbon emissions on a timescale appropriate to the magnitude of the crisis. It mostly kicks the ball down the road.http://www.juancole.com/2014/11/dollar-languid-climate.html

The new loss is the same as the last loss, ain't it

in terms of demographics?

2010 http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1110/44802.html

yesterday http://crooksandliars.com/2014/11/wave-65-voters-put-wingnuts-control-senate

a failure to sell the product sufficiently to the customers most likely to show up, as well as lacking in inducements for the younger crew to come out? Gee, who do you suppose a chained cpi proposal motivated? http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCYQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.salon.com%2F2013%2F04%2F05%2Fnew_poll_shows_many_hate_chained_cpi%2F&ei=XEBaVMPdLYq5yQSmzIGoCg&usg=AFQjCNESOMlhHhOFrXG4oS4WMyFAFFwz1w&bvm=bv.78677474,d.aWw http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=7&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CFAQFjAG&url=http%3A%2F%2Famericablog.com%2F2012%2F12%2Fpelosi-caves-on-chained-cpi-i-consider-it-a-strengthening-of-social-security.html&ei=XEBaVMPdLYq5yQSmzIGoCg&usg=AFQjCNHwmp3GOvtBTssFfUd1v4zhnXzVfw&bvm=bv.78677474,d.aWw

Personally I blame this guy http://crooksandliars.com/2014/11/nader-time-clean-out-top-dems-and-start who in many ways popularized the criticising of our leaders (from the left) that according to some is the real if not sole cause for the losses, which is why it has so stridently been discouraged.

The bewildering part about all of this is what's the difference between all the criticisms that has led to a dem schism involving complaints about thirdwayisms and a lack of liberalism/progressivisms or too much rightwingnut that carries with it, and whines about how the dems that lost being attributable to their cutting the tether between themselves and all the alleged liberal/progressive accomplishments outta DC in the last few years. Aren't they both whines about losses that a lack of liberal/progressive policy advocacy?

It seems to me that this election has made ______ of us all, no?

a successful experiment in bad compromises

likely intended from the start to be little more than a brake on the inevitable, and to facilitate the continuing growth in income/wealth inequality. The larger both are when a reversal occurs, the bigger it will be when the dust settles so to speak, leaving them (the 1%) still kings of the mountain of cash and influence. http://blogs.rollcall.com/beltway-insiders/billionaires-dominate-campaign-spending-crp-reports/?dcz= http://truth-out.org/news/item/27154-in-depth-how-big-business-buys-state-courts

For the American people, the moral of this story couldnít be clearer: If we donít get money out of politics, weíll lose our democracy altogether. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article40105.htm

Is there any doubt that the creators of the Saint Raygun revolution were far from clueless about the result of their work product we see all around us today?

I've long thought and argued that the reason for the uptick in rightwingnut extremism in recent years, e.g. the creation of the Pea Party, has more to do with the preservation of wealth and therefore political power accumulation and preservation than anything else, with an eye towards the likely major erosions that AGW is likely to result in given the "socialistic" solutions it is gonna require. All the recent "I'm not a climate scientist!" BS http://eclipsenow.wordpress.com/2014/05/31/if-your-local-politician-says-im-not-a-scientist/ coming from their pols and pundits is nothing more than the first pillow being tossed down to cushion the fall for themselves and to prepare their frothing minions for the costs and offense to the ideolological mandates their Frankenstein Monsters have lapped up like poisoned Ambrosia in relatively recent years. Put simply, imo AGW is inevitably gonna compel/be the end of modern rightwingnuttery as we know it. It's not a question of if but rather when...

The simple fact of the matter is however, unless and until the moral of this story is accepted and acknowledged and acted upon, and money taken outta our politics, they are still gonna wield the most influence and be in a position to slow the reduction in human misery and worse that remedial actions on AGW will result in. This is not to say of course that they wouldn't have followed the same course absent AGW, just that AGW represents a foil to their desires of keeping all of their ill-gotten gains, and one they have long been acutely aware of. That's why they've been so shamefully dishonest in their anti-climate science efforts -- it's a threat to their trillions still in the ground, as well as the MIC that is geared towards pumping it out. One of the most bewildering things to me is how the DoD for years has been sounding the alarm on climate change, and yet they are used for little these days but expanding and perpetuating the empire that requires Texas Tea and more.

All of this is of course why so many of us see all the recent NSA revelations as being more about efforts to quell the equally inevitable social unrest that AGW will bring with it, as opposed to the "keeping us safe/phony war on terror" BS it is justified by.

The turdway has been nothing more than an addition of sprinkles to the rightwinger turd that has made it palatable to millions lacking the figurative olfacory sense to smell it, or that like the sprinkle icing enough to eat the turd cake too. The baubbles/icing they've provided along the way have placated and produced enough supporters to allow the robbery like that which has occurred during the last "recovery".

How much solace should be taken in or praise offered for the fact that we didn't go off the cliff with the knowledge that the 1% is the one holding the rope representing their gains that we're all effectively lassoed by, now and into the future as long as the money is speech doctrine survives, given that their political survival is every bit as dependent on it as is their rightwinger cousins? To their monied masters, the rightwingnuts are their warriors, and the turdwayers usefull and expendable idiots when their need for votes requires requires stepping into lefty territory bearing gifts. In this cneter-left country left we live in though, it's rather clear at this point that the monied masters woulda never been successful but for the good cop/bad cop game the turdwyaers have played an intergal role in foisting upon a far too ignorant or distracted public, much as they wouldn't have without the "liberal" media.

This is why turdwayers are often as immune to facts and logic as their rightwing cousins -- to accept and acknowledge their role in our current plight is to drown in the Sea of Shame...
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