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What response would an indictment of Wilson for voluntary manslaughter elicit?

What do you think?

I don't buy the conspiracy theorists that say the fix is in or that a decision has been made or that they outcome was known and pre-determined. As of this afternoon, the grand jury was still in session and had not yet reached a decision.

It is not impossible that they will reach or have reached a decision that charges Wilson with some criminal liability but is shirt of murder.

I think there will be some exercise of the rights of association and expression regardless of the outcome. How will those marches or protests look different if there is an indictment?

This is still the call of 9 of 12 individual citizens. It is up to them. I read nothing into the local and national cops girding their loins for war. That is indicative of nothing other than their racism and itch to fight. And Wilson negotiating a separation is as consistent with a concern that he is about to be indicted as it is that he is about to be absolved.

No one yet knows the outcome. How will it look if Wilson is indicted on some theory of homicide?

Let's hope the cops and the Klan don't turn violent if Wilson is indicted.

There is the very real possibility that the grand jury will indict for second degree murder or voluntary manslaughter.

I hope the leaders of the white community can keep the cops, the Klan and the other whites from turning violent.

FBI (Stoking the fire) Warns Ferguson Decision ‘Will Likely’ Lead to Violence By Extremists

As the nation waits to hear whether a Missouri police officer will face charges for killing unarmed teenager Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., the FBI is warning law enforcement agencies across the country that the decision “will likely” lead some extremist protesters to threaten and even attack police officers or federal agents.

Peaceful protesters could be caught in the middle, and electrical facilities or water treatment plants could also become targets. In addition, so-called “hacktivists” like the group “Anonymous” could try to launch cyber-attacks against authorities.

“The announcement of the grand jury’s decision … will likely be exploited by some individuals to justify threats and attacks against law enforcement and critical infrastructure,” the FBI says in an intelligence bulletin issued in recent days. “This also poses a threat to those civilians engaged in lawful or otherwise constitutionally protected activities.”

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Within hours of the FBI issuing its bulletin, some police departments across the country issued their own internal memos urging officers to review procedures and protocols for responding to mass demonstrations.

Still, the bulletin’s conclusions were blunt: “The FBI assesses those infiltrating and exploiting otherwise legitimate public demonstrations with the intent to incite and engage in violence could be armed with bladed weapons or firearms, equipped with tactical gear/gas masks, or bulletproof vests to mitigate law enforcement measures.”


The only basis the FBI cites for this fear peddling is "a series of recent messages threatening law enforcement, including a message posted online last week by a black separatist group that offered “a $5,000 bounty for the location” of Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, who fired the shots that killed Brown on Aug. 9." Thanks for your help FBI.

No one knows what the Darren Wilson grand jury will conclude, not even Nixon

No one knows because the final vote has not occurred.

It seems that the prosecutor has either presented all the evidence or is very nearly done. Once the grand jury has all the evidence, it will be up to the jurors. It takes only 9 of the 12 for a true bill and there are four homicide charges available. The grand jury could also add charges.

The homicide charges include first degree murder, second degree murder, voluntary manslaughter and involuntary manslaughter. No one, not even the reactionary governor knows what the result will be.

It is likely that even the 12 grand jurors do not yet know what the result will be, unless they have been taking polls and votes along the way.

It is entirely possible that an indictment on something other than first degree murder is issued.

Since the national guard deployed today, it can be inferred that the prosecutor has (or will soon) closed the record and requested an indictment.

Camel's nose under tent: Obama 'Would Order' US Troops Into Combat If ISIS Got Nuclear Weapon

President Obama has been unwavering and definitive in declaring he will not deploy U.S. ground troops into combat to fight ISIS militants. Period.

But for the first time since the start of then anti-ISIS offensive dubbed Operation Inherent Resolve, the president volunteered a scenario which he said would change his mind.

“If we discovered that had gotten possession of a nuclear weapon, and we had to run an operation to get it out of their hands, then, yes,” the president told reporters at a news conference in Brisbane, Australia, on Sunday. “I would order it.”

There is no indication that ISIS currently possesses or could easily obtain a nuclear weapon, officials say.

Still, Obama’s declaration of a nuclear weapon in the hands of ISIS is a noteworthy new “red line” – and a very high bar for a U.S. offensive role on the ground.

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Last week, Dempsey testified on Capitol Hill that the Pentagon is “certainly considering” whether to embed U.S. military advisers with Iraqi combat units deployed to the front lines. Obama has also maintained openness to the idea, but already rejected one recommendation to do so.


Of course this hypothetical offered by the President is absurd and would never happen. And that is what should raise eyebrows. He didn't have to offer such an hyperbolic example, unless it was offered to prep the field. Dempsey is clearly heading towards recommending combat troops on the ground. Hagel is not far behind. Obama will undoubtedly follow his chief advisers.

As fucking predicted: Pentagon Officials Say Islamic State Fight May Need U.S. Combat Forces

Top Pentagon officials said Thursday that the U.S. military strategy in Iraq and Syria remains an “Iraq-first” approach aimed at stabilizing that country and doesn't include current plans for U.S. combat troops, but that conditions on the ground could change U.S. calculations.

In testimony before the House Armed Services Committee, U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel and Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, began outlining scenarios that could prompt a review of the U.S. strategy against the militant group Islamic State.

As Iraqi security forces prepare to go on the offensive and mount an effort to retake control of the country’s second-largest city of Mosul from Islamic State and to re-establish the border between Iraq and Syria, Gen. Dempsey said, these more complicated efforts could require ground assistance from U.S. forces.

“I’m not predicting at this point that those forces would need to be accompanied by U.S. forces,” he said, while adding that he is “certainly considering it.”


Dempsey is Obama's chief military adviser. Everything Dempsey says, Obama follows within weeks.

Thich Nhat Hanh, 88, hospitalized with severe brain hemorrhage

There are a couple contradictory reports out there about how likely he is to recover. From "he is dying" to "full recovery possible."

Either way, my thoughts are with him a Plum Village tonight. I wish a wonderful teacher peace and comfort.

Study identifies pre-symptomatic markers for hemorrhagic viruses like Ebola

A new study has found it is possible to distinguish between different hemorrhagic fevers, including Marburg (Ebola cousin) and Lassa before the person becomes symptomatic.

The study, which appears in the journal BMC Genomics will allow for the development of better diagnostics, especially during the early stages of disease, when treatments have a greater chance of being effective.

Hemorrhagic fevers include Lassa, which is endemic in Western Africa and Marburg, which causes sporadic outbreaks in Africa associated with high rates of mortality. The early symptoms of these viruses (fever, flu-like symptoms) are not unique, making it difficult to diagnose properly. More disease-specific symptoms and the ability to spread the virus from person to person, do not begin until virus has accumulated in the blood. Current diagnostics detect the virus after it spills out of primary sites of infection into the blood. The ability to identify the infection prior to this point would significantly aid early intervention and containment, and could improve outcomes.

Researchers from Boston University School of Medicine (BUSM) approached the diagnostic dilemma by trying to "see" infection prior to the point where viruses enter the blood stream. Collaborating with researchers at the U.S. Army Medical research Institute (USAMRIID), they used two experimental models: one that had involved Lassa virus, and one that involved Marburg virus infection. The researchers extracted genetic material (RNA) from a sample of white blood cells from each infection group at multiple times after the models were infected. Using next-generation sequencing techniques, gene expression changes in hosts cells that "recognize" early stages of infection were identified. This was seen prior to clinical symptom onset and before the models became infectious.


The US is Ebola-free again. Dr. Spencer has recovered.

Dr. Craig Spencer, the New York City doctor who tested positive for Ebola after treating patients in Guinea, has recovered and been declared free of the virus. Health officials say he will be released from his Manhattan treatment center on Tuesday.


Mali due to declare 108 Ebola-free after quarantine (Great News!)

Mali is preparing to release 108 people from Ebola quarantine in a tentative step toward declaring it has contained an outbreak.

Mali became the sixth West African country to report a case of Ebola when a 2-year-old girl died last month, leading to an urgent search for anyone who may have been infected during her 1,200-km bus trip from Guinea to the Malian town of Kayes.

The Malian Ministry of Health is expected to confirm later on Monday that 29 people who may have had contact with her during a two-hour stopover in Bamako, along with 12 people in Kayes, can be released from a 21-day quarantine on Tuesday.

A further 67 contacts, including three relatives who traveled with her and 33 healthcare workers, are due to be given the all clear on Saturday.

"If all goes well, by this Saturday all 108 contacts we were following up will be safe and will have completed their 21 days," WHO representative Ibrahima Soce Fall said.

Two further contacts who got off the bus in a village called Niamiga have been traced to Paris and Dakar and are still being monitored, a WHO spokesman said. They are thought to be at low risk, as are about 37 contacts who have not been traced.

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