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He showed up today, spoke at a shale (fracking) conference,

a bit after noon., at the Convention Center. Snuck in, I was not tipped off by any group that he would be here. I've looked at his campaign site, and have been scanning my e-mails from all orgs to see if any news of him coming to town could be had. It wasn't a rally, it was a convention of energy producers letting him be the keynote speaker. Then he went up to the Mellon's Duquesne Club for a fundraiser.

https://stateimpact.npr.org/pennsylvania/2016/09/22/trump-addresses-shale-insight-conference-in-pittsburgh/

I only heard about him being in town on the front page, here, after 1 pm. Looked online, and saw that protests had followed him to the Duquesne Club, and hustled down there. Got there at 1:45, and it was all over. But at least I know what that helicopter circling the city this a.m. was about, now.

My dad's old union, Local 66 Operating Engineers, pulled out of the shale conference in protest of them giving dummy a speaking slot, and the only union support he could boast of in media was from a retired plumber B.A. from an Ohio local union. Joe the Plumber's buddy, I guess.

http://powersource.post-gazette.com/powersource/policy-powersource/2016/09/21/Trump-s-speech-puts-unions-involved-in-shale-industry-in-uncomfortable-spot/stories/201609210195

So he had no high profile incursion into the city, and r-u-n-n-d-o-f-f right away. But I guess he gets bragging rights that he campaigned in the heart of blue downtown Pittsburgh. Wish I'd known he was making his appearance, but it was a blink and you miss it hit and run visit.

Of course, there will no doubt more chances to invite him to leave my city in the next month and a half. Like the bad penny, or previous repug prez candidates, I'm sure he'll be back around again.

Just waiting for the inevitable news that the actual perp

had his family admitted to the country from the Afghan war zone by Raygun/Poppy, or that his family was admitted during li'l bush's admin, at the exact same time shrub and dickhead Cheney were extrodinary renditioning even regular Moslem Americans to 3rd world nations for detention and torture. Or that he got into the US under the shrub Visa Express program.

Something like that.

I'd like to add here,

I don't have cable, so only see TRMS through on-line sources, or Youtube via Apple TV. This 10.5 min segment was initially posted, cleanly, by a pro-Maddow youtuber. Within a half hour, youtube made it so the straight version dropped off the page of listed offerings on Apple TV, and wasn't available through the search function.

And there were dozens of versions of it added from far right sources, targeting Rachel with "echoes" (she's not Jewish), saying she's suicidal over PePe, calling her unhinged and crazy on channels that featured pro-hitler, pro-bircher Alex Jones, pro-Breitbart vids, etc. This segment threw them into a tizzy and became a rallying cry to them, and they "proved" how "powerful" they were through gaming the Youtube function.

Yep.

This week, we got dRump's Flint "outreach" screw ups, then his "putting the birther issue behind him / hotel grand opening" screw ups, then increasing coverage of his alt-right nazi connections, then his death threat against Sec. Clinton.

Cue the explosions.

Very interesting, I didn't know that about Rog and Nikki.

I know that they do have some non-standard family values, from a "traditional family values championed by the repub party" standpoint. The quickness of buckhead's debunking of the memo shows the memo came from their side.

I did see this little Stone statement from right before the il Douche A press conference, that the birth certificate "might be fake":

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141574444

There seems to be some command and control problems syncing the campaign's public positions and statements. Or they're trying to run in two diametrically opposite directions on the issues, at the exact same time.

The nazis are the issue, for sure. Thanks Rachel. Rec, Nt.

That's way back in '04.

There's also a creep named Jim Geraghty from Natl Review who pushed and published the theory in early March of '08, 2 1/2 months before the anonymous alleged "Clinton supporter" e-mail chains.

Rove always struck me as a great nominee to receive credit for being the actual person identified as "anonymous Clinton supporter", but having to even discuss the lie about the origins coming from the Clinton campaign only lends credence to the orange cannonmouth's false argument.

His whole argument is "Hey, look over there at Clinton. Just because I've spent 6 or 7 years publicly being the face for the fake birther scandal, and I've been all over mass media pushing this lie internationally, that is no reason for you not to blame my opponent for this, because I just said 9 words that put my years-long flogging of this lie behind me permanently. I deserve thanks, accolades and credit for the part I played in this issue, and she's horrible for creating this controversy I demagogued forever about."

Thanks for your work. Congratulations on 50,000.

I didn't have the whole historic overview of where the on line / street theatre right wing provocateur movement was coming from, and the MS article fills in the info. There were a lot of people and incidents in the article that I saw reported on by different media sources as they came up, but I hadn't ever put the pieces together.

It all boils down to some whiny right wingnuts wailing "How dare you not be tolerant of our nazi-style intolerance?" The creeps who attack and death threaten everyone now piss and moan about how they're being attacked.

There is one big squirming maggot nest of them, all combined, the echoes people, the O Keefe breitbart Milo provocateur "reporters", the online MRA manosphere. They attack, then the staid authorities in charge of academia and in the corporate press give credence and coverage to their hysterical claims that they're being attacked. Exactly like the coverage of the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, and the debate around it.

Their crazy, gleefully evil crowd has constantly attacked (EVERYONE) and threatened violence, and then runs and makes an appeal to authorities to "please defend us poor right wingers because we're being attacked". To be forced to debate that alt-reality with these people, by "referees" who are academic or media authorities, is itself a propagandic black psy-op attack on all the people who those rightie freaks are attacking. ("Dig, it's like Gaslight" -- Lenny Bruce)

When this crowd were 7 year olds, they were cowardly bullies on the playground. They would see a kid they thought they could pick on, and once they were sure of a win, would take the kid's hand and hit the kid in the face with it, and say "stop hitting yourself!" There was never a valid "free speech" debate argument to be had, in a discussion between the coward bully and the person getting hit, about who was attacking and who wanted the attacks to stop. In any discussion occurring during the attack, any verbal response was another victory for the attacker, because their stupid seven year old alt-reality was being discussed, when both sides knew it was fiction. The only proper response was a good swift kick in the ding ding.

And those rightie cowards still think their seven year old kid alt-reality strategy is genius. Because actual reality hasn't caught up to them yet.

There are 2 bombshells that indies and lower-info voters can grasp.

Trump's foreign policy favors could be bought by Putin, with real estate projects. Our country's foreign policy could be sold to Putin. Just Trump and his family would profit, and the US would pay the price.

And the major media source concluded that the only way this wouldn't be true is if the Trumps completely and permanently divest from the Trump Org. Which would just leave them Trump Foundation, I guess, and maybe Trump University. Newsweek is calling for Trump to be forced to divest, and issuing a challenge to other media to follow them in endorsing this solution to candidate Trump's serious foreign policy - financial ethics conflict of interest.

Failure to completely divest completely disqualifies candidate Trump from being President.

I think that Prez O doesn't want to go into this election with another

explosively fractured and destabilized factor in the Middle East combat maelstrom. And I know that the repugs DO want to add another explosive Mid East problem for the Dems to deal with.

I can't stand the bush family's Saudi buddies as much as anyone else can't, but where were these repug law makers, with their calls to punish the Saudi terror connection, for the last 15 fucking years? Or where were they to even investigate it, for goodness sake? They had 9 hearings about 9/11/12, and NEVER DID a thing about the real 9/11 attacks.
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