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Respectfully disagree with your tactical analysis, Walt.

I've been peeing and moaning about the nazis, here, for years. And I never knew anything about any of these guys.

I heard about gamergate and Sarkeesian, heard about mra's for decades, and thought they were assholes, and ignored them. (I don't play those new videogames, don't have online facebook twitter youtube pages, so the bad guys are operating in a place I only touch through acting on an Ultraviolet e-mail action request.) I heard about the Leslie Jones attack, knew about Breitbart, thought the bad guys were assholes, and ignored them. (I did go see the new Ghostbusters, though.)

I saw the increased visibility of Jones' Infowars, just knew he was a bircher nazi repug when some progressive types were thinking he was a lefty, occasionally heard about some awful crazy nazi thing he was pulling, thought him and his people were assholes, and ignored them. I saw the echoes attacks against Julia Ioffe and then others, with all the death threats and high tech sophisticated exhibits of bad guys saying "we can reach you anywhere". I started to pay attention, & noted dozens of on-line nazi ties to t Rump, (Little Bird analysis, for example).

So where we're at, now, is that there's this orange nazi the repugs are running. He brings Alex Jones, Roger Stone, Eternal Sentry, and some street thugs together. He hires Bannon, yannopolous and Mchugh from breitbart. He aids and uses the aid of the echoes crowd, with fishbonehead, the RNC-page-posting crowd during Lingle's RNC speech, western_triumph, & whitegenocidetm crawling all over his massive 24/7 online campaign presence.

These mutants, in the o.p., are those mutants, in my last 3 paragraphs. They're all tied up in the single squirming bundle of maggots that is the drump campaign. The alt right has lately been screaming their hysterical whiny complaints (I call them "RaHoWahhhs!") about Sec. Clinton bringing up their existence, they're pretending to mock her "invention" of a boogeyman that "doesn't even exist". Simultaneously they're blanketing on-line venues with their froggies and baskets of froggies and howling joyful brags about how she made them famous and let a lot more people know they exist. Apparently, they're schizos.

They're not the street muscle nazis I complained about here for all these years, but they're the "hip" publicists and recruiters for them. They're like the 19 year old baby creepster Roger Stone was, during Nixon's Watergate felony initiatives. Stone was totally rubbing elbows with the hitmen and nazi intel people that Nixon was using for all those felonies, and Rog was pulling his own felonies as a young repuglinazi. (Fun fact: Der drump has the same large amount of mob ties that Nixon did, and will be the first candidate since Nixon to not release his tax returns.)

I'll allow it's possible that you're in a group here that monitors, discusses, and counters the online nexus of old line active and intellectual nazis (like Richard Spencer, political cesspool, v dare, worldnutdaily), and yez believe that these baby creepsters are small potatoes. But they're making threatening and effective large sized moves, and I haven't seen your discussion group, DU's a very large site. This K. Logan stuff is informative and important to me, and I could never have watched the hundreds of hours of garbage these youtube nazis put out, in order to excerpt all those key "we hate Women, Gays, Moslems, Jews, Blacks, Mexicans, but we love tRump" quotes. I have a delicate stomach.

So that's why I kick this info back up, and anyone can trash thread or ignore it, pass right on by. Just please don't mistakenly confuse any nihilists for fascists, and deck them, Sen.

Say Hi to fishbonehead1 from me, the next time yer tweeting, donnie.

His campaign has more "other shoes dropping"

than Imelda Marcos after a typhoon hit.

He showed up today, spoke at a shale (fracking) conference,

a bit after noon., at the Convention Center. Snuck in, I was not tipped off by any group that he would be here. I've looked at his campaign site, and have been scanning my e-mails from all orgs to see if any news of him coming to town could be had. It wasn't a rally, it was a convention of energy producers letting him be the keynote speaker. Then he went up to the Mellon's Duquesne Club for a fundraiser.

https://stateimpact.npr.org/pennsylvania/2016/09/22/trump-addresses-shale-insight-conference-in-pittsburgh/

I only heard about him being in town on the front page, here, after 1 pm. Looked online, and saw that protests had followed him to the Duquesne Club, and hustled down there. Got there at 1:45, and it was all over. But at least I know what that helicopter circling the city this a.m. was about, now.

My dad's old union, Local 66 Operating Engineers, pulled out of the shale conference in protest of them giving dummy a speaking slot, and the only union support he could boast of in media was from a retired plumber B.A. from an Ohio local union. Joe the Plumber's buddy, I guess.

http://powersource.post-gazette.com/powersource/policy-powersource/2016/09/21/Trump-s-speech-puts-unions-involved-in-shale-industry-in-uncomfortable-spot/stories/201609210195

So he had no high profile incursion into the city, and r-u-n-n-d-o-f-f right away. But I guess he gets bragging rights that he campaigned in the heart of blue downtown Pittsburgh. Wish I'd known he was making his appearance, but it was a blink and you miss it hit and run visit.

Of course, there will no doubt more chances to invite him to leave my city in the next month and a half. Like the bad penny, or previous repug prez candidates, I'm sure he'll be back around again.

Just waiting for the inevitable news that the actual perp

had his family admitted to the country from the Afghan war zone by Raygun/Poppy, or that his family was admitted during li'l bush's admin, at the exact same time shrub and dickhead Cheney were extrodinary renditioning even regular Moslem Americans to 3rd world nations for detention and torture. Or that he got into the US under the shrub Visa Express program.

Something like that.

I'd like to add here,

I don't have cable, so only see TRMS through on-line sources, or Youtube via Apple TV. This 10.5 min segment was initially posted, cleanly, by a pro-Maddow youtuber. Within a half hour, youtube made it so the straight version dropped off the page of listed offerings on Apple TV, and wasn't available through the search function.

And there were dozens of versions of it added from far right sources, targeting Rachel with "echoes" (she's not Jewish), saying she's suicidal over PePe, calling her unhinged and crazy on channels that featured pro-hitler, pro-bircher Alex Jones, pro-Breitbart vids, etc. This segment threw them into a tizzy and became a rallying cry to them, and they "proved" how "powerful" they were through gaming the Youtube function.

Yep.

This week, we got dRump's Flint "outreach" screw ups, then his "putting the birther issue behind him / hotel grand opening" screw ups, then increasing coverage of his alt-right nazi connections, then his death threat against Sec. Clinton.

Cue the explosions.

Very interesting, I didn't know that about Rog and Nikki.

I know that they do have some non-standard family values, from a "traditional family values championed by the repub party" standpoint. The quickness of buckhead's debunking of the memo shows the memo came from their side.

I did see this little Stone statement from right before the il Douche A press conference, that the birth certificate "might be fake":

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141574444

There seems to be some command and control problems syncing the campaign's public positions and statements. Or they're trying to run in two diametrically opposite directions on the issues, at the exact same time.

The nazis are the issue, for sure. Thanks Rachel. Rec, Nt.

That's way back in '04.

There's also a creep named Jim Geraghty from Natl Review who pushed and published the theory in early March of '08, 2 1/2 months before the anonymous alleged "Clinton supporter" e-mail chains.

Rove always struck me as a great nominee to receive credit for being the actual person identified as "anonymous Clinton supporter", but having to even discuss the lie about the origins coming from the Clinton campaign only lends credence to the orange cannonmouth's false argument.

His whole argument is "Hey, look over there at Clinton. Just because I've spent 6 or 7 years publicly being the face for the fake birther scandal, and I've been all over mass media pushing this lie internationally, that is no reason for you not to blame my opponent for this, because I just said 9 words that put my years-long flogging of this lie behind me permanently. I deserve thanks, accolades and credit for the part I played in this issue, and she's horrible for creating this controversy I demagogued forever about."
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