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For the BOG. Popcorn gets a reprieve. What about Carmel?



Obama and his daughters brave a wet and windy day to pardon turkeys at the White House.

Barack makes some humorous remarks, even made a comment about 'less fortunate turkeys.'

There is a mention of Carmel running for the honor next year. Was he pardoned, too?

It seems to me, that Obama is the first president to pardon more than one turkey a year.

I'll leave out my thoughts on the turkeys in Congress at this time.

VIDEO: Epic sliding in Seattle to great music. It's really good and no one gets hurt...



Where I live the hills are much steeper. So no, I won't go. That was some snow that year. Stuck inside for a couple of weeks.

VIDEO: Howard smacks GOP toadies. Rick, go back to World Nut Daily. Candace, adopt a rapist!



STHU, GOPigs.


It's always they. Or them. I know all about this stuff:



No one can prove this isn't true:



Makes sense to me!

That and They Live.

My mind is open!

Now where did my horse go?


Agree 'in theory' that the American people are being bombarded with bullshit; but you omitted this:

One thing is, that the pain and loss of the actions described, and how they affected the minds of millions. JFK, MLK, RFK and the desire of people to change the nation for the better. Moral, eloquent, intelligent, determined men cut down in their prime.

History shows that the death of some people means the death of a movement. In these cases, the result was not as peaceful to make change as it could have been, but perhaps it never would have been peaceful, anyway. And the movements survived through the seventies, and then regressives acted with more boldness, some say, because of the assassinations of these men.

But is that true? There is a saying that 'Good comes to those who wait... But the evil things are always in a hurry.' That's the philosophy and strategy of the regressives, and it works. Strike fast, hard, ruthlessly, like any marauder or wild animal, make off with the spoils quickly and leave nothing but disarray.

That's just unbearable for many, a loss that cannot be overcome. They will nurse that grudge through generations, just as the South has, just as some on our part of the aisle have. It's true, many people will never get to parity with what they had before the attacks, which was not an unintended consequence, either. The American consciousness has been a battleground for years, and now we have taken sides that are irreversible, perhaps.

Some people want to liken these times to those, but they really cannot do so. A generation was united with a belief in justice and equality and those ideas came not from media trends, but from a document that had real legal power, the Constitution. Now we have many who have no knowledge of how that works and so they have lost that power. They lhave no idea how to make it work, so they flail about.

Was it all planned? Were the lone gunmen stochastic terrorists or where they flunkies for those with the most to gain? In a way, I want it to be about the people I despise, since they do not see me as a human being. I want to pull all the threads together to make a devil. Team spirit, yeah!

Grief goes through a series of stages. Among them are shock, anger, denial, bargaining and then acceptance that things will never be the same. In those days, JFK, MLK and RFK were beloved by millions of people, whose hearts soared as they saw them walk among them, and saw men who were human beings with power who cared. Now, the American people can no longer fathom that such a person truly exists, they think it's all an act like a movie. Yes, Hollywood has done its part to make the world look like a fantasy, and yet it is real and suffering, but we are too preoccupied to face it. We love that reality more than the world.

Some romanticize the sixties and those men and refuse to let them go, will not quit their desire for the way things were then. They want a justice served that will never come, as the world is not necessarily built on that.

Was it just to create the USA over the bodies of the natives? Did the clearing of the land by slaves from Africa just because it was expedient to create wealth the right thing to do because the ends justify the means? Our side of the aisle gives a strong NO. The other sees it as inevitable.

A lot of incredibly evil things were going on in the sixties. A lot of festering wounds were being opened and put in the light. Some are still in denial about those, too. I'd say our side of the aisle wants those wounds cleaned out and the infection excised. The right wants to put a bandage on it and would allow the patient to die of gangrene.

But now, due to technical and social engineering, we live in a disjointed and disconnected society. Our public education system that, for good or bad, taught people basic things that created our reality, and gave them tools to make a living has been under attack since Nixon, in order to reduce the number of people able to comprehend how we got here and make effective changes in a way that will last. And that was intentional. Is it a conspiracy or simply the nature of the regressives, with the time and money to do such things?

There were only a few networks to give the same message and in comparison to now, it was that 'liberal media' the right keeps whining about to shut down any discussion. It is now reduced solely to the propaganda of a few billionaires who are conservative libertarians. For them, laissez faire capitalism with no regard for the poor or equality and have destroyed WORLDS, human, natural and mental, is ideal. They can loot and leave like pirates.

Was that a conspiracy? Or was it the xcorpion following its true nature? Do we have any control over these things? These are the things that fuel CT. It just can't be that simple, it must be super natural or global or some ancient plan and not our fault.

Another thing that fuels the disagreements on the matter of the assassinations, is what we have been taught is the nature of the American mind. In comic book style, it is like this:



We are taught to rebel against all authority, to be free thinkers, to resist and be argumentative. Just like the Warren Commission is suspect because it is part of the evil gubbermint. Just like the 9/11 report because Bush was there. Is it all a cover up?

We may want to believe so, as we have NOT been satisfied by the explanations given. Our grief and loss has not been healed. We suspect, but cannot prove. That is the power of a great CT. We cannot bring these great men of our youth back to life, nor can we go back to what some see as a more honest, noble time.

So perhaps we are dealing with a part of ourselves that is hurting and irrational. And we are dealing with the great building up era being torn down. We can deny this is happening, but it will happen. All that we believed in at one time will come to an end. I leave you with perhaps not a very well thought out response as I am in a hurry, but is from a story using a quote that to me is both painful and liberating:

A man named Charles Sanders Pierce once said:

'If man were immortal he could be perfectly sure of seeing the day when every thing in which he had trusted should betray his trust, and, in short, of coming eventually to hopeless misery. He would break down, at last, as every good fortune, as every dynasty, as every civilization does. In place of this we have death.'

Put that way, death can be seen as a blessing. A way to hold on to some of your ideals and beliefs, to not get completely embittered by life.


Have a good week, PC Intern.

Well, you could give 'em that. Me, not so much.

You are a classy person. PBO is way beyond my league, too. I get exasperated faster than before. So many times, I just want to say:



But see, I didn't say it to anyone. The cat did it!!!

Never forget that a vote for the GOP is voting for organized crime.



LOL! And gas went down another half buck where I live!



VIDEO: Raw: Obama Visits Immigration Activists on Mall



AssociatedPress - Nov 29, 2013

On the day after Thanksgiving, President Barack Obama stopped by a white tent on the National Mall where some activists have been fasting to protest House inaction on immigration legislation for the past 18 days. (Nov. 29)


to Richard D.

Please visit his thread:

Just the President chilling with protestors.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017162029

A Large PIcture of a Healthy Pacific Northwest Elk Herd:



But they, the deer and bears are terribly stressed by suburbia. At one time there was enough farmland and timber land for them to co-exist. Now the folks moving in from out of state don't want any native plants that wildlife feeds upon. They clear cut the land and plant grass and nothing else. They never go out, they live inside.

The elk and deer used to walk right up to you, or be relaxed and unworried if you took a picture of them in a stream by the roads. But the last time I saw any, they were terrified, thin, dehydrated, chased out of the last slivers wooded acreage by coyotes.

It was refreshing to the soul my first few years, but now when one walks the woods, instead of people treating these areas with respect as they used to do, they dump household garbage and junk cars out there.

Sad stuff, being separated from nature. I notice too that yards are no longer kept up for the lovely native plants, ferns, etc. but are being trimmed to look like poodle trees or whatever in a video game. People seem to have no idea what makes anything grow. Makes me sick.

Just thought you guys would enjoy that picture, too. Are they not amazingly beautiful?

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