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Good lord, I loved him in that flick.
Posted by freshwest | Tue Apr 21, 2015, 03:28 AM (1 replies)
Oops, they're laughing there. Let me see if I can find another one now. Clearly, Michelle was forced to stand beside her:
Okay, that's not the one. This must be it:
Alright, alright. At least Obama and her can't agree. See this. That means she sucks, right?
Hum, don't worry. I'll find it sooner or later. Well, never. I'm not gonna look for it after all.
Yes, CDS is like ODS which means it's actually DPDS (Democratic Party Derangement Syndrome), commonly found on Breitbart, Boortz, Savage, Rush, Freeperville, Libertarian GOP, Infowars and any number of fine RWNJ websites.
Bonus pic for the files of the Kissinger & Clinton crowd:
Well, that's it. The Dalai Lama is apparently... Something.
Posted by freshwest | Tue Apr 21, 2015, 02:58 AM (3 replies)
Inexplicably, I had a soft spot for him. Since 'Mittens Rhymes with Kittens.' Nonetheless:
Posted by freshwest | Tue Apr 21, 2015, 12:37 AM (1 replies)
Another one who is 'more libertarian than anything else' is Alex Jones. Who supports - LOL - Rand Paul for POTUS, followed by another one he says he *really* likes - who woulda guessed - none other than Ted Cruz! This 'more libertarian than anything else' is part of a long running scam on Democrats to create F.U.D.
I stumbled on a view from an ABC story - no kidding and tortured myself watching a video of the imminent 'collapse of the dollar!!!111!!' while Ron Paul was interviewed by Alex Jones in January of this year.
They used the familiar bogeymen, 'federal reserve' evil, 'banksters' evil, MartialLaw© to be declared by the 'unitary executive,' AKA the 'imperial presidency of Obama,' etc. They threw in the now mandatory false flags on every news story, too.
Note, I'm editing this as I go:
They carried on about the banksters (guess who first came up with that name - yes, invoking Godwin) as if they are so different from the evil corporations that are their bread and butter. And they never saw a regulation on a corporation they liked, not about pollution or tax breaks or anything.
And that 'federal reserve evil' thing - let's get rid of the only public regulation of the banks - let's see, who is in favor of that and been pushing it for years - none other than old Charles Koch hisself. But then, they're a Koch creation. And their fans are useful tools.
Then Paul and Jones proceeded to blow all the dog whistles!
They explained how the riots that will cause 'MartialLaw©,' will be because of the 'inner city' people who just happen to be poor (and *cough* black people, but they were smart enough to not say it directly, 'cause they're not racist, you know!) Paul said it's because they have 'an entitlement mentality' and want 'welfare.' Not kidding me.
All said with that oh, so familiar Clive Bundy 'Let me tell you about the Negro' tone. *winkwink* Oh, yeah, true voice of progressives!
Then they bloviated about the events in Ferguson, without bringing up the death of Michael Brown, huh. You'd think they'd have mentioned his name...
And how the protestors (who just so happened to be - uh - black, but don't mention that) had burnt down businesses and not respected property rights as they 'didn't understand the 2nd amendment there' and did it because they were incited by 'race baiters,' that is Sharpton (specifically mentioned as 'how could anyone think he represents anyone?') and unsaid miscreants like Obama, Holder, Democrats, etc. No, let's not bring up Michael Brown's name. And where, pray tell, are they when whites go on a rampage?
It's always *crickets* or *false flag* if white people do it. And they are for personhood laws (against the rights of women over their bodies), eliminating public schools as 'indoctrination centers' as Bircher literature says, Social Security, rights for immigrants, gays and for church schools and theoracy, and all that uber progressive stuff!
Paul really gets on my last nerve when he gets that smarmy tone and starts talking that shit. Black people aren't really progressive, and don't know what they are talking about, is what we can take away from this thread here... BTW, that's not racist!
And it got worse from there...
Needless to say we've got so many Libertarians, like Bryan Fischer, Rand Paul (both 'concerned' about teh gay) and the old standbys. I see things with themes to appeal to liberals and Democrats, or make them outraged. When you follow the links, they all go to websites like 'Reason.'
Ain't fooling me. None of 'em.
I looked it up because Paul was warning 'seniors' to look out for a disastrous change about the devastation to hit this year and change everyone's lives, so that 'seniors and anyone who lives on government assistance' will be hurt. They must be prepared!
All caused by Obama, the federal reserve, banksters, etc. That rumor is that it will hit in the month of September. Old Paul was just so *concerned* about seniors - but he must NOT be listening to what HIS party is doing right now! Who's kidding who here?
So much deflection in all this canned bullshit. I can tell what some posters are hearing from their buzz words. The Bilderbergers, the all encompassing evil of those rich guys! Except these are evil rich guys, not like their heroes who love all the poors (well not quite) so much, so get out and go vote for Rand Paul! Or Ted Cruz!
The mind of a person who can hold together the idea that Paul cares about seniors, as that was how it was billed on the ABC website while supporting 'Throw Granny under the bus' Paul Ryan and 'All disabled people are lazy' Rand Paul and 'Their wealth should be taken from and given to the Righteous' Ted Cruz at once, is mindboggling.
The Pauls won't even say the word Democrat, and Alex ALWAYS says the word with a SNEER. This is subliminal manipulation at its worst, where people don't recognize it while the demagogues wave the shiny in front of them. And facts do no good in these arguments, because it's talking to a cult. Don't you just love the 'facts' without links posts, LOL.
Posted by freshwest | Mon Apr 20, 2015, 05:34 PM (2 replies)
I trust this woman to know what a progressive is, as they were a huge factor in the progressive legislation of the seventies that it's likely some here know nothing about. Also they had skin in the game and were very serious.
I will not forget the rightwing's plot, their engineered destruction of ACORN by lies, as a major slap in the faces of the minorities and poor that were in desperate need of a voice in local, state and national politics. They were and are, damn good people, far better than the media gadflys and Bircher heros whose faux ideology is touted here daily.
The shrill opposition to Democrats and the outright dismissal, verging on denial of the rights of women and all minorities and the poor, disabled and otherwise discriminated against by the powerful and those who focus on money alone is becoming tiresome.
That is not progressive and they are not. This just keeps on going on here and it's a shame that we are wasting time arguing with them. I'm going to quote Bain's Bane again:
Dismissing the rights and concerns of people of color and women is reactionary. It is way more reactionary than Third Way. There is nothing progressive or liberal about it, and I don't consider people who do so to be leftists. Period.
Posted by freshwest | Mon Apr 20, 2015, 04:14 PM (1 replies)
The back of my insect hand to 'em!
Posted by freshwest | Mon Apr 20, 2015, 05:44 AM (1 replies)
The 14th Amendment didn't cost any famous candidate but Lincoln his life. But the Civil War fought to bring those rights to pass cost 625,000 to 850,000 lives.
And it's not over yet. More have died since then. Supporting the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Act cost MLK, Jr. his life and that of Medgar Evers, the girls in the church in Birmingham, the Freedom Riders and more. The history of African Americans in America is one of bondage and terrorism for so many years that Americans ceased paying any attention to it. Untold numbers of African Americans died trying to live in peace and get their rights as human beings. For over five centuries.
Supporting reproductive rights have cost a number of people their lives. There have been so many incidents it has also been classified as terrorism:
Roe vs Wade reduced the number of women lost to illegal abortions. Those were lives being lost and why others were willing to lose theirs for rights.
Supporting marriage equality has set up a firestorm of genocidal ideology and religious fanaticism that calls for gays to be put to death, and some have been killed by those who can't stand the idea they might get those rights. There is a cost in human rights for seeking them.
Those are the costs that matter. These things are about living things, not money. People did not fight and die for some candidates, but for their very lives. This is not a game.
It is social indifference that permits the people you think are in charge to cause these deaths and this misery. We must work from the ground up. Then they will have to give in, they always have from a unified front. Supporting civil rights is a major part of unity. Ignoring civil rights is a major divider and permits those in power to get away with what they do.
To think of human rights only in terms of money is what the most powerful have taught us to do to divide us. Each of us will leave our record here of what we think and what we care about in this online community.
Posted by freshwest | Mon Apr 20, 2015, 05:11 AM (5 replies)
A veritable glittering galaxy of batshit RWNJs.
I sooo appreciate RW smear jobs being posted here at DU, don't you? C'mon now, don't you?
Posted by freshwest | Mon Apr 20, 2015, 04:26 AM (0 replies)
Both Paul Ryan and Rand Paul have called for an Article V Convention. While the reason for calling it per this article is to overcome Citizens United that's not what they want it for.
Paul, Ryan, the Koches, Tea Partiers, Constitutional Party, Tenther and Sovereign Citizens movements have less democratic reasons. A little more of their agenda below. This is what they intend to do, and it will all be completely legal and the law of the entire USA if they get 38 states to ratify the changes. While this has not been done in the past, there's no certainty they can't do it. Especially since they are imposing draconian laws on their citizens right now which somewhat 'normalizes' it.
Attacking of the 14th Amendment is their goal. But don't think it would stop there, as they intend to eliminate the IRS and women's sufferage. Even women who are GOP elected officials say that women should not vote. So many laws we have taken for granted could be gone, as the Constitution supercedes all. Think about who is on the court now, which some already call the Koch Court:
See below what we stand to lose with them tinkering with or repealing it. **
Ryan said when they turned enough state legislatures 'red' they'd call for the Constitutional convention. Ryan gave the reason that they needed to repeal birthright citizenship to eliminate 'anchor babies.'
Paul is also eager to 'reform' the 14th to allow Congress 'to define what a human life is.' He says they'll define the unborn as having every right under the Constitution. Women will have none in that case. Isn't this the trend now throught the states?
I don't trust these legislatures to be in charge of a Constitutional convention.
It requires 34 states to call for an Article V Covention. Consider the makeup of the 'red' legislatures and what they have done in power since 2010 and more since 2014. Most of these legislators are Koch lackeys. Then read the Koch agenda below.***
Convention to propose amendments to the United States Constitution
A Convention to propose amendments to the United States Constitution, also called an Article V Convention, or Amendments Convention, is one of two procedures for proposing amendments to the United States Constitution described in Article Five of the Constitution. The other method is a vote by two-thirds of each house of Congress.
According to Article V, Congress must call for an amendment-proposing convention, “on the application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States," meaning 34 state legislatures would have to submit applications. Once an Article V Convention has proposed an amendment or amendments, then the amendment or amendments would have to be ratified by three-fourths of the states (38 states) in order to become part of the Constitution.
Congress has the power to choose between two methods of ratification*: ratification by the state legislatures, or instead ratification by state conventions called for that purpose. In contrast to those separate state ratification conventions, a convention to propose amendments to the United States Constitution would be a single federal convention. While there have been calls for a second federal convention based on a single issue such as the Balanced Budget Amendment, it is not clear whether a convention summoned in this way would be legally bound to limit discussion to a single issue; law professor Michael Stokes Paulsen has suggested that such a convention would have the "power to propose anything it sees fit". All 27 amendments to the Constitution have happened in a procedural sense by going through Congress and not through proposal by state legislatures.
In recent years some constitutional scholars have argued that state governments should call for such a convention. They include Michael Farris, Lawrence Lessig, Sanford Levinson, Larry Sabato, Jonathan Turley, and Mark Levin. As of 2015, there is an active nationwide effort to call an Article V Convention. Citizens for Self-Governance, through a project called Convention of the States, is promoting Article V legislation in all 50 states in a bid to rein in the federal government. In March 2014, Georgia became the first state to pass the group's Convention of States application. Alaska and Florida followed suit in April 2014. Similarly, the group Wolf-PAC chose this method to promote its cause, which is to overturn Citizens United v. FEC. Their resolution passed first in Vermont in May 2014 and a month later in California. On December 3, 2014 Illinois became the third state to pass this resolution; and on February 23rd, 2015 New Jersey became the fourth.
*The Congress is dominated by the GOP radicals. What do you think they will do with that power?
**Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution
The Fourteenth Amendment (Amendment XIV) to the United States Constitution was adopted on July 9, 1868, as one of the Reconstruction Amendments. The amendment addresses citizenship rights and equal protection of the laws, and was proposed in response to issues related to former slaves following the American Civil War. The amendment was bitterly contested, particularly by Southern states, which were forced to ratify it in order for them to regain representation in Congress. The Fourteenth Amendment, particularly its first section, is one of the most litigated parts of the Constitution, forming the basis for landmark decisions such as Roe v. Wade (1973), regarding abortion, and Bush v. Gore (2000), regarding the 2000 presidential election. The amendment limits the actions of all state and local officials, including those acting on behalf of such an official.
The second, third, and fourth sections of the amendment are seldom litigated. However, Section 2's reference to "rebellion and other crimes" has been invoked as a constitutional ground for felony disenfranchisement. The fifth section gives Congress enforcement power.
The amendment's first section includes several clauses: the Citizenship Clause, Privileges or Immunities Clause, Due Process Clause, and Equal Protection Clause. The Citizenship Clause provides a broad definition of citizenship, overruling the Supreme Court's decision in Dred Scott v. Sandford (1857), which had held that Americans descended from African slaves could not be citizens of the United States. The Privileges or Immunities Clause has been interpreted in such a way that it does very little.
The Due Process Clause prohibits state and local government officials from depriving persons of life, liberty, or property without legislative authorization. This clause has also been used by the federal judiciary to make most of the Bill of Rights applicable to the states, as well as to recognize substantive and procedural requirements that state laws must satisfy.
The Equal Protection Clause requires each state to provide equal protection under the law to all people within its jurisdiction. This clause was the basis for Brown v. Board of Education (1954), the Supreme Court decision that precipitated the dismantling of racial segregation, and for many other decisions rejecting irrational or unnecessary discrimination against people belonging to various groups.
***BERNIE SANDERS Uncovers 1980 Koch Agenda- "What Do the Koch Brothers Want?"
What else do the Koch brothers want?
In 1980, David Koch ran as the Libertarian Party's vice-presidential candidate in 1980.
Let's take a look at the 1980 Libertarian Party platform.
Here are just a few excerpts of the Libertarian Party platform that David Koch ran on in 1980:
We urge the repeal of federal campaign finance laws, and the immediate abolition of the despotic Federal Election Commission.
In other words, the agenda of the Koch brothers is not only to defund Obamacare. The agenda of the Koch brothers is to repeal every major piece of legislation that has been signed into law over the past 80 years that has protected the middle class, the elderly, the children, the sick, and the most vulnerable in this country...
Tomorrow it will be Social Security, ending Medicare as we know it, repealing the minimum wage. It seems to me that the Koch brothers will not be content until they get everything they believe they are entitled to.
Our great nation can no longer be hijacked by right-wing billionaires like the Koch brothers.
For the sake of our children and our grandchildren, for the sake of our economy, we have got to let democracy prevail.
People must ponder the implications of every item on that agenda that has been working on us for over 30 years. They have, or are close to, achieving all of them. We are at a tipping point. It is no time to attack each other, unless these goals don't mater to you.
If you look into the finances of the conspiracy pundits who scream about the government listening and reading email, or whatever outrage du jour is being presented, you can smell the stench of Koch above. They peddle anti-science for the masses, too.
Alex Jones and the rest say they are non-partisan but 'more Libertarian than anything else' as they spew old Bircher conspiracies. It's been an impressive psychological operation. Think the Koch brothers couldn't afford to fund this through the Tea Party, GOP, AFP, FreedomWorks, etc.?
Ever wonder where those slick production values for their films come from, with their 24/7/365 a year in multiple venues to get their message out, and where they get their money?
Not from the poor or nickel and dime contributors. They're never punished like real whistleblowers, who, BTW, are often out of the public eye and are not compensated. It's a con.
Note: The use of pronouns does not imply I am speaking to the OP author, DU posters or DU at large.
Posted by freshwest | Mon Apr 20, 2015, 02:31 AM (1 replies)
She's stated that she intends to support Obama's legacy. Here she was at a crucial point with Obama:
Both joyfully embrace each other in celebration of the passage of the ACA. See the electronic vote count board on the wall behind Barack. She's been for his goals all along.
Posted by freshwest | Mon Apr 20, 2015, 12:20 AM (2 replies)