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I suppose there are some who are in this only to win, and will lose further interest if they don't,

but I hope there are many more who are in this more deeply than that. Bernie has started a
movement. Furthermore, there are followers of Elizabeth Warren. They are so similar in their
goals and ideals. Please see my Post 4 here in this thread a little further down.

You are correct. Bernie has started a movement, and this movement will continue after he will have

left the political scene, whether he wins the presidency this November or not.

Furthermore, Elizabeth Warren has a similar following, although she is not so much encouraging them
at this moment. I believe she doesn't want to draw attention away from Bernie's presidential campaign
right now.

After November, or earlier if Bernie does not win the primaries, I hope both groups will unite. Bernie
and Elizabeth are so much alike in their political, economic and humanitarian views. This union will
strengthen them, and I hope they will take quick action. Our whole nation needs to reform -- and needs
it very badly. To me it looks like the democracy we have always known is on its last legs. We can't go
on much longer like this. And more and more people are finally becoming aware of the situation.

I am rooting for the both of them.

Just saw on Fox News at 11:25 A.M.: 6% of Americans trust the news media - about the same number as

those who trust Congress! The last I heard, it was 9% that trusted Congress. This was some months ago.
The number must have come down still further.

And Fox News is (in my opinion) one of the main causes of the lack of trust in the news media. Are they
openly admitting this? Does this mean that they might be thinking of changing their style? It might be
good for their business if more people trusted them, wouldn't it? Money talks, right?

I watch Fox News once in a blue moon, and for about 5 minutes or so. Glad that I caught this one.

iT'S probably a question of timing. He is doing a lot of work, practically non-stop. I

wonder how a 74-year-old guy has that much energy. He needs to win the
presidency first, and then he and Elizabeth Warren will be working together
hard to get more Progressives into Congress. Then they will be able to get
the ball really rolling and make those reforms.

The Republicans will be blocking him all the way, as they are doing with
Obama.

Hillary will probably help elect more Third-Way Democrats. We have too many of them already. We

need more Progressives. Without more Progressives there will be no reform in the Dem. Party -- only
more status quo. I think that's one of the reasons why Bernie is doing what he does.

"Would the world survive President Hillary?" by Dr. Paul Craig Roberts. In this article

Roberts summarizes some of the main errors Hillary has made during her political career. A pretty story it is not. He muses
as to why so many Americans do not see her as she really is.

President Killary — Paul Craig Roberts


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President Killary
Would The World Survive President Hillary?

by: Paul Craig Roberts


April 13, 2016 | Categories: Articles & Columns | Tags: | Print This Article Print This Article

President Killary
Would The World Survive President Hillary?

Paul Craig Roberts

This is an English translation of an article that I wrote for the German magazine, Compact. I was encouraged by the high level of intelligent discourse that Compact brings to its readers. If only the US had more people capable of reaching beyond entertainment to comprehending the forces that affect them, there might be some hope for America.

Compact brings hope to Germany. The German people are beginning to understand that their country is not sovereign but a vassal of Washington and that their chancellor serves Washington’s hegemony and American financial interests, and not the German people.


Hillary Clinton is proving to be the “teflon candidate.” In her campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination, she has escaped damage from major scandals, any one of which would destroy a politician. Hillary has accepted massive bribes in the form of speaking fees from financial organizations and corporations. She is under investigation for misuse of classified data, an offense for which a number of whistleblowers are in prison. Hillary has survived the bombing of Libya, her creation of a failed Libyan state that is today a major source of terrorist jihadists, and the Benghazi controversy. She has survived charges that as Secretary of State she arranged favors for foreign interests in exchange for donations to the Clintons’ foundation. And, of course, there is a long list of previous scandals: Whitewater, Travelgate, Filegate. Diana Johnstone’s book, Queen of Chaos, describes Hillary Clinton as “the top salesperson for the ruling oligarchy.”

Hillary Clinton is a bought-and-paid-for representative of the big banks, the military-security complex, and the Israel Lobby. She will represent these interests, not those of the American people or America’s European allies.

The Clintons’ purchase by interest groups is public knowledge. For example, CNN reports that between February 2001 and May 2015 Bill and Hillary Clinton were paid $153 million in speaking fees for 729 speeches, an average price of $210,000.

As it became evident that Hillary Clinton would emerge as the likely Democratic presidential candidate, she was paid more. Deutsche Bank paid her $485,000 for one speech, and Goldman Sachs paid her $675,000 for three speeches. Bank of American Morgan Stanley, UBS, and Fidelity Investments each paid $225,000. https://theintercept.com/2016/01/08/hillary-clinton-earned-more-from-12-speeches-to-big-banks-than-most-americans-earn-in-their-lifetime/

Despite Hillary’s blatent willingness to be bribed in public, her opponent, Bernie Sanders, has not succeeded in making an issue of Hillary’s shamelessness. Both of the main establishment newspapers, the Washington Post and the New York Times have come to Hillary’s defense.

Hillary is a war-monger. She pushed the Obama regime into the destruction of a stable and largely cooperative government in Libya where the “Arab Spring” was a CIA-backed group of jihadists who were used to dislodge China from its oil investments in eastern Libya. She urged her husband to bomb Yugoslavia. She pushed for “regime change” in Syria. She oversaw the coup that overthrew the democratically elected president of Honduras. She brought neoconservative Victoria Nuland, who arranged the coup that overthrew the democratically elected president of Ukraine, into the State Department. Hillary has called President Vladimir Putin of Russia the “new Hitler.” Hillary as president guarantees war and more war. http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/02/hillary-clintons-six-foreign-policy-catastrophes.html

In the United States government has been privatized. Office holders use their positions in order to make themselves wealthy, not in order to serve the public interest. Bill and Hillary Clinton epitomize the use of public office in behalf of the office holder’s interest. For the Clintons government means using public office to be rewarded for doing favors for private interests. The Wall Street Journal reported that “at least 60 companies that lobbied the State Department during her tenure as Secretary of State donated a total of more than $26 million to the Clinton Foundation.” http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/02/hillary-clinton-exposed-part-1-aggressively-lobbied-mega-corporations-secretary-state.html

According to washingtonsblog.com, “All told, the Clinton Foundation and its affiliates have collected donations and pledges from all souces of more than $1.6 billion, accoring to their tax returns.”

According to rootsactionteam.com, multi-million dollar donars to the Clinton Foundation include Saudi Arabia, Ukrainian oligarch Victor Pinchuk, Kuwait, ExxonMobil, Friends of Saudi Arabia, James Murdoch, Qatar, Boeing, Dow, Goldman Sachs, Walmart, and the United Arab Emirates.

According to the International Business Times, “Under Hillary Clinton, the State Department approved $165 billion worth of commercial arms sales to 20 nations whose governments had given millions to the Clinton Foundation.” http://www.ibtimes.com/clinton-foundation-donors-got-weapons-deals-hillary-clintons-state-department-1934187

Hillary Clinton has escaped unharmed from so many crimes and scandals that she would likely be the most reckless president in American history. With the arms race renewed, with Russia declared “an existential threat to the United States,” and with Hillary’s declaration of President Putin as the new Hitler, Hillary’s arrogant self-confidence is likely to result in over-reach that ends in conflict between NATO and Russia. Considering the extraordinary destructive force of nuclear weapons, Hillary as president could mean the end of life on earth.

Dr. Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and associate editor of the Wall Street Journal. He was columnist for Business Week, Scripps Howard News Service, and Creators Syndicate. He has had many university appointments. His internet columns have attracted a worldwide following. Roberts' latest books are The Failure of Laissez Faire Capitalism and Economic Dissolution of the West, How America Was Lost, and The Neoconservative Threat to World Order.
This is an English translation of an article that I wrote for the German magazine, Compact. I was encouraged by the high level of intelligent discourse that Compact brings to its readers. If only the US had more people capable of reaching beyond entertainment to comprehending the forces that affect them, there might be some hope for America.

Compact brings hope to Germany. The German people are beginning to understand that their country is not sovereign but a vassal of Washington and that their chancellor serves Washington’s hegemony and American financial interests, and not the German people.


Hillary Clinton is proving to be the “teflon candidate.” In her campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination, she has escaped damage from major scandals, any one of which would destroy a politician. Hillary has accepted massive bribes in the form of speaking fees from financial organizations and corporations. She is under investigation for misuse of classified data, an offense for which a number of whistleblowers are in prison. Hillary has survived the bombing of Libya, her creation of a failed Libyan state that is today a major source of terrorist jihadists, and the Benghazi controversy. She has survived charges that as Secretary of State she arranged favors for foreign interests in exchange for donations to the Clintons’ foundation. And, of course, there is a long list of previous scandals: Whitewater, Travelgate, Filegate. Diana Johnstone’s book, Queen of Chaos, describes Hillary Clinton as “the top salesperson for the ruling oligarchy.”

Hillary Clinton is a bought-and-paid-for representative of the big banks, the military-security complex, and the Israel Lobby. She will represent these interests, not those of the American people or America’s European allies.

The Clintons’ purchase by interest groups is public knowledge. For example, CNN reports that between February 2001 and May 2015 Bill and Hillary Clinton were paid $153 million in speaking fees for 729 speeches, an average price of $210,000.

As it became evident that Hillary Clinton would emerge as the likely Democratic presidential candidate, she was paid more. Deutsche Bank paid her $485,000 for one speech, and Goldman Sachs paid her $675,000 for three speeches. Bank of American Morgan Stanley, UBS, and Fidelity Investments each paid $225,000. https://theintercept.com/2016/01/08/hillary-clinton-earned-more-from-12-speeches-to-big-banks-than-most-americans-earn-in-their-lifetime/

Despite Hillary’s blatent willingness to be bribed in public, her opponent, Bernie Sanders, has not succeeded in making an issue of Hillary’s shamelessness. Both of the main establishment newspapers, the Washington Post and the New York Times have come to Hillary’s defense.

Hillary is a war-monger. She pushed the Obama regime into the destruction of a stable and largely cooperative government in Libya where the “Arab Spring” was a CIA-backed group of jihadists who were used to dislodge China from its oil investments in eastern Libya. She urged her husband to bomb Yugoslavia. She pushed for “regime change” in Syria. She oversaw the coup that overthrew the democratically elected president of Honduras. She brought neoconservative Victoria Nuland, who arranged the coup that overthrew the democratically elected president of Ukraine, into the State Department. Hillary has called President Vladimir Putin of Russia the “new Hitler.” Hillary as president guarantees war and more war. http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/02/hillary-clintons-six-foreign-policy-catastrophes.html

In the United States government has been privatized. Office holders use their positions in order to make themselves wealthy, not in order to serve the public interest. Bill and Hillary Clinton epitomize the use of public office in behalf of the office holder’s interest. For the Clintons government means using public office to be rewarded for doing favors for private interests. The Wall Street Journal reported that “at least 60 companies that lobbied the State Department during her tenure as Secretary of State donated a total of more than $26 million to the Clinton Foundation.” http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/02/hillary-clinton-exposed-part-1-aggressively-lobbied-mega-corporations-secretary-state.html

According to washingtonsblog.com, “All told, the Clinton Foundation and its affiliates have collected donations and pledges from all souces of more than $1.6 billion, accoring to their tax returns.”

According to rootsactionteam.com, multi-million dollar donars to the Clinton Foundation include Saudi Arabia, Ukrainian oligarch Victor Pinchuk, Kuwait, ExxonMobil, Friends of Saudi Arabia, James Murdoch, Qatar, Boeing, Dow, Goldman Sachs, Walmart, and the United Arab Emirates.

According to the International Business Times, “Under Hillary Clinton, the State Department approved $165 billion worth of commercial arms sales to 20 nations whose governments had given millions to the Clinton Foundation.” http://www.ibtimes.com/clinton-foundation-donors-got-weapons-deals-hillary-clintons-state-department-1934187

Hillary Clinton has escaped unharmed from so many crimes and scandals that she would likely be the most reckless president in American history. With the arms race renewed, with Russia declared “an existential threat to the United States,” and with Hillary’s declaration of President Putin as the new Hitler, Hillary’s arrogant self-confidence is likely to result in over-reach that ends in conflict between NATO and Russia. Considering the extraordinary destructive force of nuclear weapons, Hillary as president could mean the end of life on earth.





You are quite correct. I hope Sanders wins. If he does not win, he and Elizabeth Warren will have

started a Movement to reform the corrupt and degenerate group that the Democratic
Establishment has become. They are too much under the sway and influence of that
Great Corrupter -- Wall Street.

This Movement will be taken over by others, and will continue the needed reforms
after Warren and Sanders will have left the political scene. It's here to stay.

Welcome back. This time to stay!!!

What, at heart, is the Republican Political Agenda? The only thing of importance to them is money,

and the power that goes with money, the power that can be bought through bribery and other
methods of corruption. They will use all means, both fair and foul, to get ever more money,
which, among other things, they will use to subjugate the rest of the country. They are trying
to become the royalty and nobility of ancient times, and make the rest of the American people
their servants and serfs - their property. In short, the goals of Republicans and Corporate Big
Business are one and the same.

Would they dare to openly say this in public? Of course not. Even they are not that stupid!
They are already stupid enough to try going back to feudal times to begin with. Quite a few have
already tried, and all of them have eventually lost - however successful their beginnings might
have been.

So what do they talk about, during political debates for example, in order to win over supporters
to their side? They seem to concentrate on trying to ruin the reputations of their opponents.
Digging up personal dirt, and inventing lies while doing so are not beyond them.

Above all they must avoid discussing the national, economic and political issues that are facing
our nation. Why so? Because they basically have nothing to offer the American people! in fact,
all they are interested in is taking away ever more from them. And this truth they must never
let out. It must remain hidden.

So, how do Republicans handle this situation? They are coming out with ever more propaganda
and lies. Oddly enough, I must say that they are quite successful with this. They have nearly
half of the voting people in this nation fooled. Yes, nearly half of our people are actually
supporting them!

Of all the presidential candidates today, Bernie Sanders is the only one who is emphasizing the
political issues facing our country at the present time.

Go figure!

By now just about everybody knows about the Dem. Establishment's Rigged Elections. It's not

simply an occasional local happening, it covers all 50 states, plus the Territories. It is nationwide!
Does anybody still doubt what happened in Arizona, Nevada, and now Wyoming?

What are the Sanders people doing about Wyoming, Arizona, Nevada? The Dem. Establishment
does the vote-counting, and the Dem. Establishment people are apparently beholden to Clinton.
I don't doubt that, if it weren't for the voter and election frauds, Sanders would be winning by
even larger percentages in many states.

From their behavior, it has become obvious that Third Way Democrats are more like Republicans
than Democrats.

Bernie and his supporters have got to fight back, and with vigor. I think we ought to demand
a re-election in all those states where there is proof of election or voter fraud.

This bullshit has got to stop, and the practitioners of fraud brought to court. Anything less than
this, and they will just continue their fraudulent practices, and they will "WIN."
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