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I think soon after the elections are over, you pro-Hillary guys won't be seen on DU again

for a long time -- maybe until the next election? In the meantime, you are trying to create
as much trouble as you can. And you're not succeeding too well.

Here's the prediction from Western Illinois Univ. Presidential Prediction polls for 2016. They

began their predictions in 1975 (that's 40 years!!), and have been correct every single time so
far. They predicted 49% for Sanders, and 38% for Bush. They even predicted O'Malley as
Sanders' V-P. Until now, their accuracy rate has been 100%.


Jimmy Carter: 'Unlimited Political Bribery' subverts nation.

Corporate America is simply rotten and corrupt through and through. Here we have it from the former President Jimmy Carter himself:

The United States is no longer a democracy because of "unlimited political bribery" that's created "a complete subversion of our political system as a payoff to major contributors," former President Jimmy Carter says.

In an interview on the "Thom Hartmann Program," Carter said Supreme Court cases like the 2010 Citizens United decision have turned America into an "oligarchy," where wealthy elites wield the most power.

The United States is no longer a democracy because of "unlimited political bribery" that's created "a complete subversion of our political system as a payoff to major contributors," former President Jimmy Carter says.

In an interview on the "Thom Hartmann Program," Carter said Supreme Court cases like the 2010 Citizens United decision have turned America into an "oligarchy," where wealthy elites wield the most power.

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"It violates the essence of what made America a great country in its political system," he said. "Now it's just an oligarchy, with unlimited political bribery being the essence of getting the nominations for president or to elect the president. And the same thing applies to governors and U.S. senators and Congress members."

"The incumbents, Democrats and Republicans, look upon this unlimited money as a great benefit to themselves," Carter added.
"Somebody's who's already in Congress has a lot more to sell to an avid contributor than somebody who's just a challenger."
In 2012, Carter called the Citizen United decision "the stupidest decision that the Supreme Court ever made," The Hill reported.


Is this How Hillary pays back a good turn?:

Bernie initially said that he would not say anything negative about fellow Democrats during the
campaign, and he kept his word. During the first Democratic Primary Presidential debate, he
even helped Hillary, when the subject of her e-mails was brought up, in stead of taking
advantage of the situation. Very gentlemanly of him, indeed!

Then later Hillary started attacking him personally. Well, is that her way of repaying him for
having been a gentleman? It struck me that she was the type who believes in "Win at any Price,
no holds barred" -- not a very pleasant character trait to have, in my opinion! It would have been
foolish of Bernie to continue taking it lying down under these circumstances, wouldn't it? Being
the fighter that he is, he is striking back.

Now Hillary supporters are complaining about Bernie supporters "hating Hillary" when they criticize
her. Who started the negativity first?

Do Hillary supporters see what I have written above also as "hate?" I consider it as a criticism of
Hillary, based on fact. Nobody's perfect. I don't particularly like Hillary, but I don't hate her either.
As I have stated in past posts, I will vote for her in the GE, should she beat Bernie in the Primaries.

Bernie, as president, will do far more good for the American people than Hillary can. A Republican

president in 2016, of course, might spell the beginning of Fascism in our nation.

We must all have noticed that the Main Stream Media have been very quiet about
Bernie Sanders. They report little or nothing about what he says or does. They
try their best to avoid mentioning him altogether.

Why? I think they are AFRAID of having him as an opponent in the General Election.
And the best way of not having him as an opponent is to keep him in the dark as
much and as long as possible.

On the other hand, Hillary does get mentioned in the MSM -- often. Again, Why?
The Repubs. would much rather have her as an opponent. They think she will be
easy to beat. They have so much more negative things to say about her. Repubs.
think of her as easy pickings.

Let's help stop Fascism from taking over our Government.


Here's something that's more definitive about last Tuesday's Dem. Primary Debate:

Bernie won by large margins in all the online polls that were taken last Tuesday and Wednesday, and
Hillary won the debate in the opinions of most of the news media pundits.

The question is, which of the above two will count more in terms of votes, come Election Day in
November, 2016?


Swiss study shows that 147 large corporations (mainly banks) rule our world.

The Swiss Federal Institute (SFI) in Zurich released a study entitled “The Network of Global Corporate Control” that proves a small consortiums of corporations – mainly banks – run the world. A mere 147 corporations which form a “super entity” have control of 40% of the world’s wealth; which is the real economy. These mega-corporations are at the center of the global economy. Among them are: • Barclays • Goldman Sachs • JPMorgan Chase & Co • Vanguard Group • UBS • Deutsche Bank • Bank of New York Melon Corp • Morgan Stanley• Bank of America Corp • Société Générale.


However as the connections to the controlling groups are networked throughout the world, they become the catalyst for global financial collapse. James Glattfelder, complex systems theorist at the SFI explains: “In effect, less than one per cent of the companies were able to control 40 per cent of the entire network.” Yet because of the facts presented in the study, the financial crash of 2008 can be traced back to these tightly-knit networks. Future disasters can also be projected based on this analysis because of the “connectedness” of these influential entities which are only 147 corporations.


As the banking cartels force countries in the EuroZone into sovereign debt, there is a weakening of the many multi-national corporations around the world. Wells Fargo and JPMorgan Chase have financially gained while stocks are being unloaded in other markets.............The European Central Bankers agreed to give any nation in the Euro-Zone a bailout if they agreed to hand over the country to them under the guise of “new rules and conditions when applying for assistance.”


As America drifts downstream toward economic implosion, the Federal Reserve headed by Ben Bernanke has chosen a different approach. They unveiled QE3 last week as a pump and dump scheme to prop up the US dollar by printing cash that is backed by nothing, while purchasing the mortgage-backed securities from the same banks that created the scandal and acquiring land in a massive land-grab; the likes of which have never been seen in the US. Simultaneously, the BRICs nations (Brazil, Russia, India and China) are buying gold to back their fiat currencies to avoid being caught up in the destruction of the technocrats as they march toward one world currency. BRICs have become the anti-thesis to the banking cartels of the Zionist regime..............................
Over 180 countries have signed onto the BRICs agreement as evidenced in their declaration. While the global Elite still hold power over the G5 countries, the rest of the world is standing up, severing their ties and making plans for a new world without them.

I must say that while there is quite a bit that I don't understand and leave it up to you economics people, the overall tone of
this article is frightfully depressing to me. Have we been really divided into two totally opposed and inimical camps? Where are we being led to by these screwball sociopaths? And, are they really unstoppable?


Do we have too many sadists among our nation's cops and prison guards?

From the large number of cases we've seen lately of cops badly beating up innocent
civilians for no apparent reason, it wouldn't be difficult to come to the question, "Are
Police Departments Hiring Too Many Sadistically Inclined Job Applicants to be Cops?"

Sadists enjoy causing pain and suffering to others. I can imagine the numbers of
them might be even higher among prison guards, where they can beat and humiliate
prisoners and not be found out for having done so. Prison guards can do it with

Police Departments and Prisons ought to be provided by their superiors with the means to
screen out sadistically inclined job applicants, and fire those sadists already employed,
who are found performing such acts. Such primitive types should not be given authority
over people. They, themselves, need to bear watching!

Is there any way of starting such a movement -- and nationwide? Enough is enough.!

Nadin in Reply #5 just informed that taking pics. in voting booths is not allowed in some states.

It is unfortunate, but not hopeless even in these states, since this ruling may be challenged
(on 1st Amendment grounds).

As for the other states, how does one proceed with the matter if one suspects them of having
committed vote fraud? Do all those picture-takers band together and demand a recount
to see whether or not any of them have been "miscounted?" They have the evidence of how
they had voted with them.

The above also supposes that a group has already been formed functioning as a headquarters
where all parties interested in picture-taking have already registered and may be contacted to
show up with their pictures when needed.

I can see a good deal of preparation for unexpected eventualities is needed.

I wouldn't expect much in the way of change for the first two years, should Bernie

win the Presidency in Nov. 2016. Things might go as follows:

1. If Democrats should also win both Houses of Congress (and by a large
margin), great changes will take place. But winning both Houses is not
likely to happen.
2. If Dems. should win only the Senate, some change will take place, but
don't expect much and you won't be disappointed.
3. If Dems. should lose both Houses to the Repubs., little or no change
can take place.

In cases 2 and 3, the Dems., of course, will be working hard to make the
changes anyway. And each time the Repubs. slam down on what the
Dems. are trying to do, Bernie and the Dems. should tell the American
people loud, clear and often, what the Repubs. have done, how it would
make things more difficult for all the American people, and not to forget
what the Repubs. have done when the next Election Day comes. Dem.
leaders should repeat over and over again, and each time, how important
it is to vote during the non-presidential years, if Americans want to better
things for themselves. It is the Republicans who are preventing the Dems.
from making life better for all.

I've noticed in recent years that the Dem. leaders (with the exception of a
few like Eliz. Warren and others) don't bother to talk on this point much,
when it should be driven home loud and clear each time it happens. In
every negative there is usually some positive opportunity. Each time the
above happens, it is an opportunity to let the lazy voters know that the
Repubs. are the bad guys, and they must be voted out of office in the next
Election. And there is no other way for Dem. leaders to get things done --
their votes are needed. It is an absolute must.

Dem. leaders need to hammer this point home time and time and time again.
If they should do this steadily for two years, there is some chance that we
might have both Houses - and by good margins - beginning in Bernie's third
year. Only THEN will things start popping!

If the winning of both Houses should be by small margins only, remember
the 400+ filibusters of Obama's first term. Dems. should keep on hammering
away at the Repubs. for their recalcitrance, making sure that they get the full
blame. More of the general public will get to understand who the bad guys
really are. And Dems. will be able to accomplish more during Bernie's second
term. Some people are slow in catching on. That's the way things are.

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