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A year ago Bernie wasn't even known. I, too, knew very little about him. I

was rooting for Elizabeth. When I became sure that she wasn't running, I started
reading up on Bernie, and became impressed. His political views were very similar
to mine -- his and those of Elizabeth. For me, he was a natural to switch to.

Well, within a short time after entering the presidential race, Bernie began to make
rapid progress, very rapid indeed, for an almost total unknown. The main stream
media rarely ever mentioned a word about him. They avoided him like the
plague. And the Republicans didn't attack him either. Their reason is simple
to see. Why should they give him publicity? Making him known to more people
was the last thing on their minds. He was already dangerous enough. In fact,
they did the opposite, they tried to suppress him wherever possible. The DNC
did the same thing. Example: Just look at DWS's scheduling of the Dem. Primary
Presidential Debates.

Does this give you another point of view to really think about re why they attack
only Hillary, and not Bernie? Hillary became a known entity when she became
First Lady in 1993. Whether or not the Republicans liked it, there was nothing they
could do about it -- she has been a worldwide known figure since then. She also has
extremely heavy political baggage to tote around. Bernie does not. It would have
been quite stupid of the Republicans to give him more publicity, since his political
views are more different from theirs than Hillary's. To them he is more dangerous
than Hillary - should he win. So they kept quiet about him, and still do.

And they are right. If the Republicans had given him all the publicity by attacking
him, Bernie would have been way ahead of Hillary months ago. Just look at the
massive turnout of people whichever town he visits to make speeches. Can you
imagine what would have happened, if Bernie had been frequently seen on TV
over the past year?

The only reason Hillary is winning the Dem. Primaries is because the Dem. Establishment

people are doing their best to help her along with their crooked ways. Perhaps many of them
are in her political debt? She has had so much experience in her long political life - and a lot
of it seems to have been experience of the unpleasant negative type.

The only presidential candidate who is a decent human being and still running is Bernie. I
hope he stays in. If it hadn't been for all the dirty tricks played against him, he would have
easily been the Dem. Front Runner today.

For the above reasons I would like to see Bernie win, even if it should be only at the expense
of Hillary's coming into difficulties - brought on herself by herself - such as the result of her
present FBI investigation, or the exposure of her Goldman Sachs speech, or whatever else.

Yet, if she should win the Dem. Primaries, I would vote for her against any Republican. The
reason is simple - I'd like to help prevent still greater misery and more unnecessary deaths
for the vast majority of the American people by doing what I can to fight the greater evil.

If some find the above crazy, my answer is: These are crazy times. And that is WHAT IS
taking place right now. What else better can one do than play along with it -- until these
times change? No situation on earth is permanent. The life of our planet, itself, is only a
temporary one.

A second higher-up NYC Primary Election official has been put on leave without pay. I

thought this investigation was already over and done with. It's still going on. Maybe
this time they really mean business:


Those who would not vote for Hillary in the GE, have you taken a good look at the Big-Picture?

With all her negatives that have been described here at DU, she would still be a lot better
than any Republican president. For instance, I doubt it that she would nominate a
Republican to the SCOTUS. Yes, there will be no change. She will maintain the present
status quo. Our democracy will remain a half-dead one. But where there is life, there is
hope. We can still hope that the next Progressive president will do the job.

If we elect a Republican president this coming November, I feel that the Corporatists are
ready to kill democracy in our nation altogether, and this time they will make their
Oligarchic Fascists the leaders of our nation. My feeling is that they would have made their
move during Bush Jr.'s presidency, but they decided against it probably because they felt
that they weren't strong enough. And a failure of this magnitude would carry heavy
consequences. Today they are much stronger than they were a decade ago.

An example: Police departments have been militarized in our entire nation from coast to
coast. Few people knew about this until 2011, when Occupy Wall Street began their
peaceful demonstrations. The police cracked down on them brutally and had them jailed,
albeit for a few days only -- not just in NYC, but throughout the country.

Only then did we realize that the militarization of our police departments was already a
fait accompli in 2011. To do something of this order takes a good deal of planning, and
time. This must have taken years to complete.

Whose idea was it? Who did the planning? We already have the strongest and most costly
military in the world, do we really also need a militarized police department at home? And
if so, what is it for? And why such secrecy? Shouldn't the American people also have had
some say in this? If it weren't for the Occupy Wall Street incidents, we might still have
been totally in the dark today.

Sanders still has a chance of winning. I have not given up hope. But if he should lose
the Primaries, I would vote for Clinton. Under these circumstances, odd as it may seem,
she would represent our best hope of preventing the greater of two evils from happening
to our entire nation!

To me, the above is a brief description of what I think is the Big-Picture of the state our
country at this very moment. We are living in highly interesting, but also extremely
dangerous times.

In the meantime, we'll continue to do everything to help Sanders win.

Hey, Salinsky! Your "It is the duty of every Sanders supporter to vote for Hillary Clinton" is

very much like forcing something down another's throat. It only makes us want to answer
back just as forcefully and arrogantly. You sound so much like the Republicans. They
seem to be strangers to the attributes of civility and diplomacy. You appear to be made
of the same cloth. Don't you know that a spoonful of honey would attract more bees than
a tubful of vinegar?

Try it. I bet you'd convince more people with civility and diplomacy than with your present style.

Isn't it odd that Clinton and Trump are the likely winners of the Democratic and

Republican Primaries respectively? The majority of the American people openly
distrust the both of them! Come November, and we might have to choose between
the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea.

We need Election Reforms really badly. We can't go on like this. But this is
what the Republicans want. Republicans have been thriving on chaos -- even though
Trump is backfiring in their faces this time around.

Modern day Republicans don't know how to govern. When in power they inevitably
bring chaos, which the Democrats have to deal with when they get into power. But
too many people don't even see this. I put much of the blame on the 90%
Republican-owned news media's propaganda and lies.

As far as the news media is concerned, the Democrats have nothing to fight back
with. Nor do we seem to be interested in starting one of our own to counteract
the Republican lies with genuine news and the truth that the American people deserve
to know. It can be done. But Democrats are too passive, and I think this passivity
and apathy do play some role in the mess we're in, too.

Hillary won mostly in the Southern states+ those states with closed Primaries. There are

millions of Independents as well as others who were not allowed to vote in them.

If, as you say, the Republicans want Trump to win, they won't wait till

after the GE, because then Hillary's V-P would become president.

They'd indict before the GE. My question is, if Sanders has already
lost the Primaries to Clinton, would he then be reinstated as the
Democratic candidate? Are there laws on this point?

Or do you think the Republicans would indict Clinton still earlier, while
Sanders is still in the race in the Primaries?

Anyone of the above doesn't look like a sure thing for the Republicans,
since it looks like Sanders has a good chance of beating Trump.

If it's true that Cruz's wife has a copy of Hillary's Goldman Sachs speech transcript, this is

my guess of what is likely to happen: The Republicans would wait until after the Democratic
Primaries are over before they make public the transcript. It would be highly foolish of them
to publish it in the news right now, since it would be helping Sanders to win -- which is
something they desperately wish to avoid. They know their chances of losing to him are very

All they need to do is to wait until some time after the Democratic Primaries, and Hillary
would have to either stop the race, or resign if she were already president. The
Republicans would be sparing themselves a great deal of trouble.

Bernie and Elizabeth are the leaders of this movement. They are for honesty and integrity in

Government, a Government that is for the entire American people, not just for the
few super-rich. Bernie and Elizabeth stand for reform -- removing the bribery and
corruption of the Corporate Power people -- and replacing them with people of
MORAL principles.

They are the exact opposites of the Tea-Party. The Koch brothers, I understand,
are doing a good deal of the financing of the Tea Party. They are known for their
bribery and corruption.

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