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My namesake... http://youtu.be/GgXzWhexJh0 ... If I were asked to recommend only one political / history book it would be this one... http://www.amazon.com/Treason-America-Anton-Chaitkin/dp/0943235006 ... Treason in America: from Aaron Burr to Averell Harriman, by Anton Chaitkin. I do NOT endorse all of the views by Chaitkin external to this book, nor all of his actions, nor all of his associations, but I DO highly recommend this book. It is one every US citizen and everyone interested in its history should read. It it well written, meticulously sourced, and it is eye-opening -- even for those who consider themselves already knowledgeable. If you have not read it before, you need to read it, it is need-to-know information, and what it has to say is not going to be found in many places, if anywhere, else. That is my tip for whoever is passing by.

Journal Archives

White House: US was given 'heads up' before Miranda detained

This is the latest entry from the Guardian's live blog on reaction to the Miranda story. It's about a comment by Josh Earnest, White House deputy press secretary, during a press conference.


Glenn Greenwald's partner detained at Heathrow - reaction

LiveRolling coverage of the reaction to the detention of David Miranda, Glenn Greenwald's partner, at Heathrow under terrorist legislation

Andrew Sparrow
theguardian.com, Monday 19 August 2013 13.35 EDT

6.47pm BST
White House: US was given 'heads up' before Miranda detained

This is more interesting: Earnest admits that the White House was given a "heads up" over Miranda's detention yesterday.

"We had an indication it was likely to occur but it's not something we requested," he says.

Pressed further, he says the US was told Miranda would be detained before he arrived at Heathrow airport in London.

"It probably wouldn't be a heads up if they had told us about it after the detainment," Earnest said.

Earnest refuses to say whether Miranda was on a terror watch-list either in Britain or in the US.

He would not comment on whether the US discouraged the UK from holding Miranda before his detention.

Updated at 6.49pm BST


The other entries are worth reading, some are very informative about the particular UK law Miranda was held under. Apparently it strictly must be used in relation to actual terrorism issues, and as soon a a person is no longer believed to be relevant to a specific threat, the person must be let go at once. So it would seem that the British are using outlandish interpretations of their law too, just as it's being done in the US.
Posted by Waiting For Everyman | Mon Aug 19, 2013, 02:04 PM (4 replies)

One thing we can always count on for sure...

Whatever we know about, there are things going on that we don't know about yet which are worse. We never find out all of the worst. It's always true, so figure that in. I always figure that whatever we know, it's twice that bad.

The only two reasons the government has to fear us the citizens is, if it is doing something that it knows we would not stand for -- whether it's in the past, present, or future, or all three. It's either that, or the domestic freaks really are ready to re-fight the Civil War. The reason I think those two are the likely possibilities is, if it was an outside problem we would be let in on it, to be part of the answer.

I tend to think the first possibility is the more likely, based on what we've already seen. I think it's only the tip of the iceberg, and some really dirty shit has been going on (against us) for a long time. To be a national threat and have all this secrecy not get out (any more than it has) it would have to be a both sides are equally guilty scenario, which fits too.

You don't arm for nothing. Even if it's a trumped up excuse, eventually, a reason for it has to be put on the table, if only to explain the expense and the hardware showing up in places, as in the video. I think there is a reason, and it's something we really would finally get the pitchforks out for (for instance if 9/11 was MIHOP). I think they know it's going to inevitably leak out soon, and that is why they're so upset about Snowden. Whatever he has, it must contain a tip off to it.

That's what I think, just fwiw. Time will tell.

ETA: As to whether what's said in the video is true, we can look around at reports of what's happening to police forces all over and know that it's true ourselves. It doesn't rely on this person's statement, it's already evident. Look on any page of GD.
Posted by Waiting For Everyman | Thu Aug 15, 2013, 12:37 AM (0 replies)

This is so interesting to me, and so good to see this project being done.

The incident happened a few years before my time, but I knew about it because the song you posted was one of my favorites ever since I first heard it on one of Judy Collins' albums in the mid 60's. Her version is just so beautiful, I thought some here might like to hear it.

Posted by Waiting For Everyman | Thu Aug 8, 2013, 12:58 AM (1 replies)

Nope. (I don't like the "rounded" cars at all.)

Regardless of costing a lot less, I still like the Datsun 280ZX better than any other car. The best model imo was the 1983 Turbo 2+2 T-top. I owned one from new for 25 years, and my late husband raced them (as team owner and master mechanic, not the driver) at Summit Point. If I had all the money in the world to burn, I would still find a restored 1983 ZX to buy, over anything else. Maybe someday again, who knows.

Summit Point WV, May 1983
Posted by Waiting For Everyman | Sat Aug 3, 2013, 11:13 AM (1 replies)

Heads Up: Hearing on Government Surveillance now on C-SPAN

Just an FYI for any who are interested and can catch it.

Franken is questioning now. I think it's been on less than an hour.
Posted by Waiting For Everyman | Wed Jul 31, 2013, 10:20 PM (0 replies)

Interesting: "the United States does not consider Snowden a spy"

From the first paragraph after your "snip":

Barack Obama has already signaled that the United States does not consider Snowden a spy, which commits himself to refusing any sort of swap.

Any comment?
Posted by Waiting For Everyman | Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:50 AM (0 replies)

Sen. Church's words bear repeating. (quoted in the article)

In contrast, during the 1975 Congressional hearings on NSA, Senator Frank Church stated that:

"I know the capacity that is there to make tyranny total in America, and we must see to it that this agency and all agencies that possess this technology operate within the law and under proper supervision, so that we never cross over that abyss. That is the abyss from which there is no return."

That is what the head of the committee had to say after conducting extensive hearings into our government's secret activities in 1975. Since then, technologoy has exploded and oversight has gone blind. We're in some trouble by now. The committee's reports are very interesting, and these were some serious people who did a very serious job of it. They really tried to find out what was going on, which nobody has done nearly as well since.


Btw, if this mass collection of personal information that we are hearing about now was really of any effective use in preventing terrorism... then why did the Boston Bombing happen? Why didn't the Feds know all about it beforehand? This isn't being used against terrorism, it's being used against us.
Posted by Waiting For Everyman | Sun Jul 14, 2013, 11:09 AM (1 replies)

John Cusack, Free Press, StopWatching.US, & Restore the Fourth: Demand End to US Spying

Craig Aaron July 2, 2013

A few of the organizations behind the StopWatching.Us campaign and an organizer of the Restore the Fourth rallies happening across the country on July 4 held a press conference today on the public response to NSA spying and surveillance programs.

Free Press was joined on the call by Harvey Anderson of Mozilla, Kim Lemkuhl of ColorofChange.org, Rainey Reitman of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, Anna Wilmesher of Restore the Fourth ó and John Cusack (!), the actor and board member of the Freedom of the Press Foundation.

Weíll post the recording of the call here as soon as itís available.

Hereís the text of my statement from todayís call:

Iím the president and CEO of Free Press and the Free Press Action Fund, and Iím here today representing our more than 600,000 Free Press activists from across the country.

Free Press is a founding member of the StopWatching.Us coalition and is supporting the Restore the Fourth events.

We joined with our allies in these efforts because of our commitment to defending Internet freedom and press freedom. Right now, our rights to connect and communicate are in serious jeopardy.

Donít believe those who suggest the American people donít care; those pushing that line are just hoping people wonít find out whatís really going on. As we learn more every week about the unchecked surveillance and the corporate collusion, the outcry will grow louder and louder.

This is a nonpartisan effort uniting strange bedfellows from across the political spectrum. But I would say to my friends in progressive and Democratic circles that if you opposed attacks on our civil liberties under Bush and Cheney, you must oppose what the Obama administration is doing.

This is not about right and left. It is about right and wrong.

A word about the press: Orwell said journalism is printing what someone else doesnít want printed. The journalists at the Guardian, the Washington Post, McClatchy and other outlets pushing forward this story deserve our admiration and gratitude.

The efforts to smear, slander and silence these reporters must be challenged. The ability for these reporters ó and all reporters ó to do their jobs must be safeguarded.

To be honest, the questions being raised about journalists versus activists confuse me. As far as Iím concerned, we need way more of both.

This intrusion into our private lives will not be solved behind closed doors. We need to bring these government and corporate activities into the light of day, and the only way that will happen is if millions more people get involved and demand accountability, demand change, demand the truth.

Thank you.

Want to join the call for NSA accountability? Take action now at StopWatching.Us and then find a Restore the Fourth event near you. Iíll be speaking at the rally in Farragut Square in Washington, D.C. Hope to see you there!


This post needs some fireworks. Happy 4th of July, DUers!

Posted by Waiting For Everyman | Wed Jul 3, 2013, 09:39 AM (9 replies)

Russ Tice, former NSA whistleblower, reveals some new secrets of his own

This interview is from June 19th, 2013, a few weeks ago. The subject was the Snowden NSA leaks, but Tice got onto the subject of the potential for the NSA (or its many contractors) to blackmail our political leaders, at about 45 minutes into it.

Categories or wiretaps he saw himself: Lots of the following...

journalists and news agencies
high-ranking military officers
lawyers and law firms

members of Congress - Senate and House, both parties, especially those on the Intelligence Committees, Armed Services Committees, and Judiciary Committees

congressional staff
judges, 1 on the Supreme Court; 2 former FISA court judges
State Department officials
Executive Branch, including in the White House
anti-war groups
civil rights groups
US international corporations
Banks and financial firms
NGO's like the Red Cross

Named wiretaps he personally saw and processed:

Barack Obama in 2004
Hillary Clinton
Sen. Diane Feinstein
Sen. Orrin Hatch
Sen. Patrick Leahy
Sen. Carl Levin
Rep. James Saxton
Rep. Peter Hoekstra
Rep. Tom Davis
Sen. Henry Waxman
Sen. Jay Rockefeller
Sen. John McCain
Sen. Evan Bayh
Gen. Colin Powell
Gen. Eric Shinseki
Gen. David Petraeus

He said without hesitation that he thinks Petraeus was taken down by an NSA wiretap, possibly by Gen. Alexander. He said that the one Supreme Court judge he saw an order for was Alito, but that his coworkers still inside the NSA say that all 9 have been tapped.

He is very worried about the opportunity NSA has to blackmail political figures, in fact he says that is principally why he became a whistlblower. The capability is certainly there, which is a problem in itself. The potential for blackmail has always been recognized as a security risk. Now we have that to the nth degree within our own government.

Tice calls today's NSA "Hoover on steroids". That really seems to be an understatement, if anything.
Posted by Waiting For Everyman | Tue Jul 2, 2013, 03:57 PM (10 replies)

26 Sens.: NSA is relying on a "secret body of law" to collect massive amounts of data on US citizens

A bipartisan group of 26 US senators has written to intelligence chiefs to complain that the administration is relying on a "secret body of law" to collect massive amounts of data on US citizens.

The senators accuse officials of making misleading statements and demand that the director of national intelligence James Clapper answer a series of specific questions on the scale of domestic surveillance as well as the legal justification for it.

In their strongly-worded letter to Clapper, the senators said they believed the government may be misinterpreting existing legislation to justify the sweeping collection of telephone and internet data revealed by the Guardian.

"We are concerned that by depending on secret interpretations of the Patriot Act that differed from an intuitive reading of the statute, this program essentially relied for years on a secret body of law," they say.


In a press statement, the group of senators added: "The recent public disclosures of secret government surveillance programs have exposed how secret interpretations of the USA Patriot Act have allowed for the bulk collection of massive amounts of data on the communications of ordinary Americans with no connection to wrongdoing."



Senators signing the letter:

Ron Wyden (D-Or), Mark Udall (D-Co), Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska), Patrick Leahy (D-Vt), Mark Kirk (R-Il), Dick Durbin (D-Il), Tom Udall (D-NM), Brian Schatz (D-Hawaii), Jon Tester (D-Mt), Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH), Dean Heller (R- Nev),Mark Begich (D-Alaska), Bernie Sanders (I-Vt), Patty Murray (D-Wash), Jeff Merkley (D-Ore), Mazie Hirono (D-Hawaii), Al Franken (D-Minn), Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), Chris Coons (D-Del), Maria Cantwell (D-Wash), Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn), Max Baucus (D-Mont), Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass), Martin Heinrich (D-NM), Tammy Baldwin (D-Wisc) and Mike Lee (R-Utah).
Posted by Waiting For Everyman | Mon Jul 1, 2013, 04:07 PM (128 replies)
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